The Real Hotel California

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Hello bizarre story friends.
You've tuned into the Bizarre

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the strange, the unusual, the

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unknown, and all things bizarre
AF.

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I'm Kevin.
I'm going to be your host for

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today's episode.
And as always, we ask that you

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keep an open mind, keep a
skeptical ear, but keep

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listening to those facts as we
take you on our newest journey,

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the real Hotel California.
Well, hello everyone and welcome

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my Co host this with the mostest
Alicia.

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Hey, girlfriend.
Hey, how are you?

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Doing well.
How are you today?

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I'm good, yeah.
How are you going?

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You know what?
It's it's good I'm here.

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Yeah, I'm.
I have a little bit of soda,

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which I don't drink soda very
often, so I can use it, that's

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for sure.
But I'm really excited to be

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here today.
This is going.

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To be interesting, I hope.
Yeah.

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I think no, this one is not
going to be scary for you, I

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don't think.
It's not aliens, and it's not

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AI.
OK good.

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So you know behind pulling
pulling the the curtain behind

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to see behind the curtain a
little bit.

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Right now we are filming at
night and it's not like like you

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can't tell but but we are
filming at night which?

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We don't normally do.
No, we normally, yeah, we

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normally film during the day,
so.

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So this could be a little
creepsters.

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Yeah.
Now all I have to do is go to

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bed and then I'll have this in
the back of at the moment.

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Yeah.
Thank you, Kevin.

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Well, you know, as the saying
goes, two times can be

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coincidence.
But when it's more than that,

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it's generally a pattern.
Right, but.

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What if it was like 10 times?
What if it was 100 times?

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What if it was hundreds of
times?

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Would you think that's some sort
of a pattern?

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I would say it's probably, it's
probably, you know, a phenomenon

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or a pattern.
Yeah, yeah.

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It's something you can count on,
right?

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Well, Hotel Cecil.
Cecil, have you heard of this in

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LA?
Oh.

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No, I have heard of this place
in LA.

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Oh my God, yes.
We're gonna talk about Bat.

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It's fucked up.
It's fucked up.

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And it's Isn't it still around?
Yes.

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Why do people go there?
We all just need a place to hang

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our hat at the end of the day.
Gerd.

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You're you're tired.
You you have no other options.

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So you go to the Cecil Hotel.
So what?

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What causes these continuous
things to happen?

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Who causes these?
Is it the location?

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Is it the circumstance of the
patrons?

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Is it something we don't even
understand?

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Oh, that's a great question.
I don't know.

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This is the question we're going
to be talking about today.

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But you don't have to be a
conspiracy theorist to hear this

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episode and go what the fuck?
This is weird.

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So we're gonna talk about the
history of the hotel, but we're

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gonna focus on a more recent
event.

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Oh, OK.
But we're gonna talk about the

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beginnings, the middles and and
the most frequent.

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OK.
Or the most recent.

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OK, so in 2019, LA was big Boom
town.

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In about 1924, there were three
hoteliers, what do they call

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hotel hoteliers who wanted to
build this very luxury hotel And

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they built the hotel sees it was
very luxury.

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Super nice.
Super nice.

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In fact, today if you go into
the lobby, it's like posh it

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like you would look go, wow,
this is a nice place.

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It's crazy.
OK.

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It cost about 1.5 million at the
time, which equates to about 21

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million in today's money.
It's a fourteen floor hotel with

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17 rooms.
It's only. 700.

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Oh, I was like, it's only 17
rooms.

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All this stuff has happened,
yeah.

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Yeah, 700 rooms, top floor was
actually the 13th floor, but we

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all know hotels don't have 13
floors.

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So it's technically the 14th or
sorry, technically the 13th,

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but.
Logically, the 14th?

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Yeah.
The 14th, Yeah.

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Isn't that weird that hotels do
that, especially this one.

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It's like you might as well have
the 13th.

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It doesn't really matter.
Why would you build a hotel with

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13 floors?
Yeah, it's like some bad juju or

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something.
Started off bad.

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Yeah.
But you hop into the elevator.

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I told you the lobby.
Nice, But you hop into the

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elevator.
Totally different world.

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Really.
Turns into crap.

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Second you walk in the hotel,
you're like, oh, what am I

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getting myself into?
And then you get off the floor

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and you're like, oh F what am I
getting myself into?

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And then you get in the rooms,
you're like, oh hell no, like

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your floor.
Your feet are sticking to the

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carpet.
Oh, gross.

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You're definitely getting
bedbugs.

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Oh, yeah.
Some, yeah.

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Like like maybe you know what
they say is like they say you

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know you have to be careful when
you're in a hotel because often

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times they don't change the
sheets or whatever.

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No, stop.
Yeah, No, they don't.

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They don't like like take a take
a black light.

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No.
Take a black light to those

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sheets and you will be
disgusted.

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That's why I just like to live
in with like, a bag over my

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head.
I don't care.

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I'm just gonna be oblivious.
Yeah.

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Yeah, Put blinders on me 'cause
I don't wanna know.

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So this hotel's right on the
edge of an area that they call

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Skid Row.
Yes.

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And it's like a 20 some odd
block area which which its

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residents really are not the top
notch of society.

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No.
I mean this hotel houses,

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prostitutes, drug addicts, the
homeless, convicted sex

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offenders, and LA at a time.
Sorry, let me back up.

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So the Great Depression?
Sorry.

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So builds.
In 1924, Great Depression starts

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29.
By 1931, the hotel was already

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pretty seedy.
Oh, sure, no one's going, No.

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One can afford it.
In 1931, a guest by the name of

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WK Horton dies in his room after
taking poison capsules.

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Oh, he just kills himself.
Kills himself.

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Often times people will do it in
hotels.

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More suicides follow so many so
that I can't even possibly

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highlight them quickly in this
podcast.

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They're just.
There's it's countless.

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Like that is.
I mean, that's something that

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that people, if people are gonna
kill themselves, they typically

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will do it in a hotel room
because then no one has to find

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them that they know.
The same hotel.

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I mean, there's something up
with this hotel.

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Something's going on.
Yeah, like again.

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It was a really nice hotel at
this at.

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The beginning Yes, yes.
In 1934, another resident

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commits suicide by slashing
their own throat.

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Who?
Oh my gosh.

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Who does that?
I have never heard of anyone

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doing that.
You have to be insane to do

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that.
Who does that?

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You.
Can't.

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You can't.
Like there's like a mechanism.

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Yeah, there's a mechanism in
your like within your body that

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says like this is causing pain.
So like if people try to kill

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themselves or whatever, often
times that's why they use a

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faster method, because you
physically can't really do it

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this.
Person did.

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'Cause they're in a crazy ass
place.

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In IG Bingo in 1937, a 25 year
old named Grace Margot Mago.

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She dies in the hotel when she
falls from the ninth story and

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her body gets tangled up in the
telephone wires.

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Oh God, of course. 1944 A woman
gives birth in the hotel room

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and then throws her baby out the
window.

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Shut up.
What the fuck?

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This it's like everything you
can possibly think of. 1947

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Elizabeth Short, also known as
Black Dahlia.

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She was allegedly spotted having
a drink in that hotel just days

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before her murder.
Oh my gosh.

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And that was a that was a huge
murder at the time.

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And then, throughout the 40s and
the 50s, more suicides, more

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murders. 1962 A Pauline Austin
jumps out the window, falls onto

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a man and kills him.
Oh God kills two people. 1964 A

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retired telephone operator.
Her name was Goldie Osgood.

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They called her Pigeon Goldie.
She'd she lived there like a

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long term resident.
She liked to feed the pigeons.

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Everyone liked her.
She was found rape, stabbed,

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beaten in her room with
completely ransacked.

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Oh my gosh.
This guy gets charged with her

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murder because he was seen
outside covered in blood,

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roaming the streets.
Turns out it wasn't him.

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What?
Whose blood was that?

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Good question.
They didn't have DNA back then,

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right?
Like, who knows but.

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You know, I'm just OK.
Just happened to see someone

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else roaming the streets and
covered in blood.

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What the hell?
You ever hear the Night Stalker?

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Yes.
Famous LA Area serial Killer?

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Yeah, he stayed there.
That was his residence, that

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that hotel.
He stayed there for many weeks,

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committing most of his murders
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Really.
And he would strip off his

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clothes in the alley and then
walk up to his room through the

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stairs in his bloody underwear.
EW.

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People saw him doing this
repeatedly.

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Oh yeah, but like, you think of
the clientele.

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What was, what was that like,
the 70s?

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Like they're like, yeah, we're
not gonna say anything.

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Eighties, 80s, yeah.
And.

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This hotel was crazy, so that
was just like normal.

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They're like, yeah, we're used
to seeing people in blood,

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blood, covered underwear,
Whitey, tidies like or tidy

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white.
It's insane.

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Another Sioux killer.
An Australian, an Austrian.

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Excuse me.
He stayed at the Cecil in 91

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while there.
He was there.

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He killed 3 prostitutes.
The more rooms in this hotel

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than not.
Somebody has died and in the

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last and in a 10 year period
there were over 80 deaths, 80.

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Wow.
Something's wrong with this

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hotel.
Yeah.

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Something is.
Seriously wrong.

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In 2008, the owners started
evicting long term residents

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'cause they wanted to try to
start cleaning it up right,

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'cause it was like physically
like, gross.

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Yeah, yeah.
It was like a style.

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Yeah, yeah.
So the city stopped them from

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doing it because this area, the
city wanted them, didn't want

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them to get rid of their long
term residents because the city

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wanted all the homeless and
everybody to stay in this area.

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They didn't want them in the
city.

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That's right.
So they wanted to keep them

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here.
So they didn't want to get rid

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of that or have them, you know
get rid of the long term

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residents.
So in about 2008, the owners,

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the the new owners, wanted to
clean the place up.

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Naturally.
Naturally.

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You have a gazillion murders
there like or deaths, right?

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Might be a good idea.
But the city wouldn't let them

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do it because this is where the
city wanted to throw all of

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their icky people, right?
So they mark this as a landmark.

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They prevent them from changing
it out from a long term

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residence to like a real hotel.
So they had to start getting

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creative.
So what they did was in one of

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the one of the part of the
entrances there was it was on a

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corner, so they had two
entrances.

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They created another entrance,
created a whole new lobby and

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they called it a different hotel
called stay on main.

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And what they did is they took
floors 3-4 and five and they

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made that this stay on Main
residents were living on 2 and

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then six through 13 or 14,
right.

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So it was like a hotel within a
hotel.

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That's so weird.
They rebranded, right, this,

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this, the stand main was all
hip.

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It's like you know like orange
and white and it was like with

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workspaces and but it was like a
a European hostel.

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So like, it was like you would
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common bathrooms.
So it's a cheap, cheap place for

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young travelers to go.
But it was clean.

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Yes.
And nice.

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Yeah.
And they're probably charging

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like decent rents there.
Little did they know that these

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people were living between
literally between crazy.

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But yeah, I mean, like, that's
why you'd have to make it like a

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hotel or a hostel for, like,
younger people that, like, isn't

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expensive.
Not super expensive, right?

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Because if you had some Hoity
Toity's in there and it was a

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boutique hotel, those people are
going to be like, wait, why is

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this guy who has, like, one
massive dreadlock taped to his

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freaking head and is covered in
blood?

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Like, why is this guy in the
same hotel that I'm paying money

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for?
Well, the problem was that they

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had to share the elevator.
That's what I was thinking.

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I I'm like, I'm like, how would
they not?

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Yes.
They couldn't have a separate

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elevator, so they had to share
the elevator that was.

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Old It's an old building.
There's no way to just shut it

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off, right?
So in 2013, and this is when,

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you know they got this may stay
on main going and they're

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getting lots of young travelers.
This hotel gets in the news

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again because a woman by the
name of Elisa Lamb, a Canadian

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resident, gets reported missing.
She's only 21.

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She just wanted to travel up and
down the West Coast.

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Sure, it's a beautiful drive.
Fortunately, she was real close

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with her parents or parents that
said, you know, call me every

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day so they knew something was
wrong instantly, right?

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Because she was not being in
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Was she on like a like, was she
on a trip or?

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Yeah, she's just wanting a
little getaway.

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She just wanted to just kind of
explore the West Coast in the

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United States.
She'd never been just wanted a

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getaway.
Yeah.

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So the hotel did have video
cameras.

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However, the floor that she
stayed on didn't have a video.

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Camera.
Go figure.

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Go fig.
Yeah.

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Big surprise.
Shocking.

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Big surprise.
So the LAPD are watching hours

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upon hours of video, but there
was video of the entrances and

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the exits, and so they
determined she did not leave the

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hotel.
They do not ever see her

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leaving, so she's still has to
be somewhere in the hotel.

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Right.
She has nowhere else to go.

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She's not from the area, so it's
not like, right?

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The LAPD did find one camera
after watching all of this

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video, and they see her, but
she's behaving very strangely

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and it's in the hotel elevator.
And in an effort to help them

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solve the case, the LAPD decides
they're gonna go.

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They're gonna disseminate this
video to the press to try to get

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people to look at it and help.
Sure.

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They're 13 days into this
investigation.

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They're nowhere.
And this is the first viral

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video.
This is 2013, so there's really

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no such thing as viral videos.
Really.

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This was the first one that kind
of triggered the viral video

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viral viral video sensation.
It got over 25,000,000 views in

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just days.
Of this girl this 21 year.

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Old in the elevator.
In the elevator because that was

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the only place they had cameras.
Footage.

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Right.
What floor was she staying on?

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Who knows?
Don't know.

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OK, doesn't really matter.
Don't.

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Yeah, but doesn't matter at this
point.

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But the LAPD gives puts this
video out on the Internet to try

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to get help.
Like, hey, if you have any

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information, just call, yeah.
We're gonna watch the video.

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Oh.
My God Great.

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And I'm gonna add commentary for
the people that are just

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listening so you can kind of
understand what we're watching.

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But it's actually disturbing.
And it's not disturbing.

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Like, it's like creepy,
disturbing, just knowing the

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circumstance, knowing that after
this event she disappears.

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Right.
This was, yeah.

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And the her behavior is very
unusual.

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Oh God, great.
OK, great.

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There's no one else in the in
the elevator with her, right?

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We don't think so.
Yeah, I guess we'll see.

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OK, so again I'm gonna play the
video and I will try to talk

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through it so that people knows
what happens about a 4 minute

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video.
OK.

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OK.
And we'll also have it LinkedIn

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the show notes, right?
So.

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So the doors open and she walks
in casually, and she swings her

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arm over her head as if she's
kind of playful around, and she

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pushes all the buttons and she
bends down.

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She fires them all in a row from
top to bottom, and then she

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steps back to the back corner of
the elevator and just stands

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there looking out the door.
Yeah, well, like, the door's not

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even shutting.
Like the door to the elevator

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still open and she's kind of
like looking out, she.

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Jumps forward, she looks
forward, bends, peaks her head

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out right, left.
Then she puts her back against

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the side wall, and then she
steps into the front corner with

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her head back against the wall
like she's hiding from somebody.

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She looks freaked out.
Then she slowly sneaks around

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the corner and just peeking
around to the right, just still

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in the doorway like no one could
see her from the hall.

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Then she slowly steps out with
her right foot looking to the

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left, Jumps out really fast with
her feet, steps to the left to

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the back end, steps back into
the elevator like a square

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dance, steps back out into the
hall and then steps to the left

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of the door in the hall, out of
frame.

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Now we can just see her right
arm just hanging there.

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She's just standing there.
Keep in mind the elevator

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staying open, not doing
anything.

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It's.
Not closing.

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It looks like she's got her
hands on her head, because we

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can only see her right arm and
she's just standing there again,

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the elevator door staying wide
open, not doing a thing.

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Then she steps in, almost like
she's dizzy, touching both sides

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of the elevator door and then
from top to bottom pushes the

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buttons three times.
Yeah, all of the buttons.

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All of the buttons doing it.
She does that three times,

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methodically with each hand.
She's like going down the

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buttons.
Then once she's done with that

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again, she just slowly walks out
the elevator with her hands

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through her hair and and steps
back in front of the elevator to

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the left.
And her arms start doing these

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weird motions.
Like she's talking to someone or

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conjuring someone or trying to
explain something to someone.

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And she's twisting her hands and
her arms and her fingers and

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like she's counting or bending
her fingers back, just doing

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weird behavior with her hands
and kind of bending at the

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knees, making very odd gestures.
And she's just slightly out of

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the frame, just onto the left of
of the elevator.

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And then she slowly walks away
and we never see her again, but

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the elevator door remains open.
It's doing nothing.

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Now the question becomes, why
did the LAPD include this

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footage in the video?
And if you also notice the time,

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the timestamp is grainy.
Yeah, we'll talk about that in

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just a second, but the door
finally closes.

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But it kinda like jumps closes.
It does, yeah.

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And it's gonna stay closed for a
few seconds and we'll see the

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timestamp still ticking.
We don't see any activity in the

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elevator.
The door opens again.

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We see nothing in the hallway.
We see nothing in the elevator

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stays open for a few seconds and
then closes again, kind of like

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it would be if it was going
floor to floor because remember,

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she pushed all the buttons.
Right, Yeah.

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So then we wait for a few more
seconds.

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The elevator still is empty with
the door closed, and then if now

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it opens up again and the
background of the hall changes

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colors, now it's orange and the
door remains open for a few

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seconds, the door closes again
and it does look as though like

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one of the other lights on the
elevator door went off and then

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the video ends.
Yeah, So the question for a lot

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of the sleuth was why was all of
that footage included?

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Like if the LADLAPD posted this
video, would they?

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Wouldn't they have just stopped
it when she walked out?

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If if I'm playing devil's
advocate here, no matter what

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people are gonna be like, why
did you just end it?

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What happened right after, you
know?

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And people are gonna have
questions.

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Why didn't you let it play?
Yeah, why didn't you let it

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play?
And and real in reality, they're

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like because there's literally
nothing else like, well, we

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don't believe you.
Which don't get me wrong,

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preaching a choir here.
I totally agree.

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However, they would have an
issue if it ended right there.

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The I mean that is a really good
question.

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Why would they continue to show
all of the floors right And it

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it hitting every single floor,
like what is the point of that?

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Right.
And and do we?

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I don't really know if it is
going to every floor, quite

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honestly.
Right.

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It doesn't look like it is going
to every floor.

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Especially the second time, like
I maybe I couldn't tell if the

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light turned off or not, but it
looked like it was on the same

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floor.
And by the way, why is the

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elevator now behaving properly?
Right.

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Because once she.
Was all of the sudden.

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Yeah, So the thing that I mean,
it's disturbing, the video is

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disturbing and I will say like
whomever is listening to this

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podcast, definitely check out
the video because it's you did a

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great job of explaining it.
Brilliant job.

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Great.
Thank you.

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But also, it's a totally
different thing to kind of see

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it, because the movements that
she was having were just so

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strange.
And why the fuck is the door not

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shutting?
Why is it not?

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She pushes the buttons
repeatedly, and it's never.

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Shutting and like like here's
one thing you would think of.

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I I, you know, work in a
building that has a an elevator

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and as you're like if you're
inside it'll automatically shut.

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If it doesn't it'll like
sometimes make a noise, but you

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can see like the little the
lights lighting up right or what

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the problem is.
You could you also have like a

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door opener, door close button.
She wasn't.

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She wasn't pushing that button.
Was hot.

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Now see, it was hard to tell
because you could see her with

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her, you know, left, right,
left, right, with her thumbs

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pushing the buttons.
And then it kind of looked like

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she was pushing a button down at
the bottom.

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I couldn't tell what it was.
It could have been like the what

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is it that?
The fire alarm or whatever?

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Or like the.
Of course nobody heard that,

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heard anything.
Nobody heard an alarm or any

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bells on the on the elevator.
Yeah, which is weird.

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I have some questions about this
elevator.

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Like.
Like like when was the last time

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I was serviced because it wasn't
behaving like an elevator should

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have been behaving, right?
Like you would expect the door

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to shut or there to be some kind
of, like reaction.

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Or maybe it was just broken and
it just sat there.

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And if that were the case, then
why the fuck did the door, like,

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almost jump closed?
Right, so the so the people,

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these are all of the
observations that people had.

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Why is the time stamp all jacked
up?

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Yes.
Why can't you read the time?

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Stamp You can't read the time
at.

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All it almost.
It almost looks like someone put

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those when they do those little
blurry squares over stuff.

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Pixelation.
Pixelation.

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That's what it looks like.
So who did that?

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Why did they do that?
Was it just 'cause it was

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shitty?
Like what?

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You know, That was a question
really smart people who have

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nothing better to do with their
lives figured out that it's

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running at 33% slower than
normal.

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That's what they believe.
The video's running 33% slower

460
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200
than normal.
What?

461
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,240
And that this was based on the
movements of the millisecond

462
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,040
speed.
Now it was impossible to read

463
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,800
those, but again, people with
that are super smart, they have

464
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,720
nothing better to do with their
lives.

465
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,640
Kind of figured out the time
stamp.

466
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,800
Oh, that makes her movements
even weirder.

467
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,800
Totally.
Sometimes.

468
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,160
The seconds you probably weren't
looking, they don't even move.

469
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:12,280
They like glitch or it's good
pause the when the elevator

470
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,400
closes.
It does this like jump.

471
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,480
So it's almost like the the the
video was cut or it skipped.

472
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,640
I did.
I did see that.

473
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Yeah, kind of like Bloop.
It did seem like it skipped

474
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,160
suddenly.
Like partially closed?

475
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Which if you've ever done
anything with like editing, like

476
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,760
editing videos or whatever, we
have so we know.

477
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,240
But there are jump cuts.
That's what it's called now.

478
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,640
People are used to seeing jump
cuts, but that was a jump cut.

479
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,360
Yes, exactly.
So why did that happen?

480
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,200
And again, once people started
decoding the time, because we

481
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840
know the order of numbers, they
were able to figure it out.

482
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,720
They figured out there were 53
seconds of video missing.

483
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,120
It seemed like there was
something up like where like

484
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,560
when did they determine that?
Was it like?

485
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,360
Like, way after, way after.
Yeah, after the fact, right,

486
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,120
'cause you have all these
sloughs, like, you know,

487
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,560
forever.
Who are they covering up for?

488
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,240
And.
Was the was maybe?

489
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:13,040
Was the recording just glitchy?
Was there an entity fucking with

490
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,080
the video?
Maybe.

491
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,800
Was there something making her
act that way?

492
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,360
So it was fucking with the
elevator and the time.

493
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:24,320
And I mean.
God, it makes me want to go back

494
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,040
and watch that video at like the
the normal speed, what they

495
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,200
think is the normal speed
because I think it would be way

496
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,680
scarier, weird.
It's like even the way it was

497
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,880
some of the some of the times
what she was doing it kind of

498
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,160
pulled her.
Hand backwards.

499
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,360
Yeah, like, like, which I I'm
doing that right now.

500
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,360
Like I can pull like my fingers
back and it was almost like like

501
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640
her fingers were rigid and she
was like trying to pull them

502
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,080
back or whatever.
It's like, what was she, what

503
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,720
was she doing like with her
hands?

504
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,560
Like all of that just seemed
incredibly strange.

505
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,560
And I mean like to say that and
it looks like it was at normal

506
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,760
time while we were watching it.
It did because especially when

507
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640
she was, she would do her step
and she kind of jump out the

508
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,800
jump out the elevator.
I mean, that looked like a

509
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,000
normal pace.
Yes, it seemed like a normal

510
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,320
speed.
Is there a reason why?

511
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,840
Like OK?
Why do they always have the

512
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,800
shittiest, grainiest?
God.

513
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,920
It was.
Frustrating.

514
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,040
So frustrating.
Why can't we just have a good?

515
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Camera video.
Especially at a place like the

516
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:39,160
Cecil or the Cecil Hotel that
has had numerous murderers and

517
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,840
like would think they would
have.

518
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,040
Hey, look, we have a.
Lot of shenanigans happening in

519
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,360
this hotel, so I think we need
to have some good video.

520
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,040
Yeah, we want to cover CYA, make
sure that we know who's coming

521
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,920
in there when they're doing
whatever they're doing right?

522
00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,120
But it's really crappy quality,
super blurry and pixelated.

523
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480
The worst.
And then, like, you can't read

524
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,560
anything that's happening.
It could it be that it was

525
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,880
recording too fast?
But why would it even record?

526
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,960
Why would the camera record
choppily like that?

527
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,800
Like there's no reason.
And when you watch her, she

528
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,400
doesn't look choppy.
She doesn't look choppy at all.

529
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,800
But the time stamps jumpy.
Like she would be moving.

530
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,200
Really fucking weird.
If you we were to see it, if

531
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,880
it's at 30, if it were at 30%
speed and we move it to 100%,

532
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,360
what it should be.
That was 33% slower.

533
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,320
So I guess it's running at like
what, 75, you know what I mean?

534
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,840
It's like it would be running at
75% slower, slower.

535
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,160
So she's actually moving faster.
Yeah.

536
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,040
So if we put it up to 100, so we
have to bump it up 33%, Yeah,

537
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,200
Yeah.
Then technically she's moving

538
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,480
faster, right?
She'd be moving faster.

539
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,320
Than she'd be moving faster in
reality.

540
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,320
Like so that whole thing, it
would make her look almost like

541
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,400
semi schizophrenic or something
like like or or possessed.

542
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,640
Normal.
Possessed.

543
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,480
Yes.
Like those were weird movements.

544
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,000
Yes.
And it's like it looks like she

545
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,480
was looking for someone.
It's it's like I said,

546
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,480
disturbing.
I've watched this repeatedly and

547
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,480
you know, she walks in, you
think all is normal.

548
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:32,120
She walked in in a normal way,
but within a hot minute it

549
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,440
starts getting weird.
And then when she when she does

550
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,040
the elevator thing, when she's
standing out the elevator and

551
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,720
then starts tweaking her hands
and her arms and talk and

552
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,720
moving, or that's when it starts
getting really weird.

553
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Yeah, yeah.
And it looks like, like when

554
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,640
she's in the elevator, when she
first gets in, everything's

555
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,280
normal.
And I I thought, like in the

556
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,560
back of my head I'm like, was
she drugged or something?

557
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Like, could that have been
something that had happened?

558
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,440
But she's standing upright.
She wasn't like, yes, she was

559
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,800
wobbling.
It didn't seem like she was

560
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,960
under the influence of anything.
She seemed really pretty cogent

561
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,640
in standing there and almost
childlike in some of the

562
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,520
movements.
Some of the things exactly,

563
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040
exactly.
Which is really weird.

564
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:23,080
So 19 days after she's reported
missing, her naked body was

565
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,760
discovered in the water supply
cistern in the hotel roof.

566
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,680
The hotel's water supply.
The the cistern up at the top of

567
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,680
the water tank.
Yeah.

568
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Like the little water tank
above, Yeah.

569
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,720
Yeah, she was in there naked.
Floating face up.

570
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,720
Naked.
Naked.

571
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Where were her clothes?
In the tank.

572
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,160
So it's like she took off her
cloth.

573
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,880
Well, maybe they could have come
off or that's fucking weird.

574
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,160
So then you go, how long did how
this was 19 days later and how

575
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,600
did they finally find her?
All that would be because the

576
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,760
guests started complaining of
discolored and bad tasting water

577
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,000
and low water pressure.
No.

578
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,880
Yes.
These people were paying to

579
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,800
drink.
Body water.

580
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,040
So fucked up.
That is so fucked up.

581
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,040
Fucked up.
So.

582
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,320
It's it's scary.
So they're like, oh, this kind

583
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,800
of this water kind of tastes off
and it's like, you know it,

584
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,000
you've been tasting off for a
while.

585
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,240
They're like it's kind of brown
and weird colour and then there

586
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,960
was like hardly any water at all
and it would like go, you know,

587
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,720
I'd like.
Yes, the pressure.

588
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,080
The pressure would change.
Yes, they're like, oh, wonder

589
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,520
can't find this girl, but like,
let's check this water tank one.

590
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,800
So yeah, So here's the other
thing.

591
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Yeah, the police scoured the
building because they they knew

592
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,640
she didn't leave, remember?
They knew she hadn't left.

593
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480
So they scoured this building,
including the roof.

594
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,000
Well, I'm sorry.
I mean, I know Hindsight's 2020,

595
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,199
but if you're going to look in
every nook and cranny, then look

596
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:17,280
in every nook and cranny, yeah.
Absolutely.

597
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,280
Why would you not?
I'm sorry.

598
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,320
I know I it's easy for me to say
after the fact, but still.

599
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,440
Well, it's like, OK, there are
only there's they know knew that

600
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,320
she was inside of the hotel.
They probably knocked on

601
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,960
everyone's door did a full
search of every single room.

602
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,440
Why would you like, I would
assume you would check like the

603
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,080
ballrooms, the banquet rooms,
like every single restroom you.

604
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,360
I'm sure they checked every
single person's room.

605
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,880
Who's actually staying there.
You're checking the basement.

606
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,840
You know the, the lockers, the
lockers, the, the.

607
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,880
Laundry equipment.
Yes, they did everything.

608
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Yeah, like the kitchen and then
parking stuff like that.

609
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,680
Why would you not check the roof
there?

610
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560
What do they do?
Just like take a cursory glance

611
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,480
and be like, oh.
Yeah, there's nothing here.

612
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,200
Nothing here.
Like how was there not, how was

613
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,760
there not any sign that that
person was up there one, right?

614
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,280
Like and there wasn't.
There was no sign there.

615
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,120
Was no sign, there was no
nothing disturbed, there was no

616
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:27,200
nothing.
And a cistern don't get like,

617
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,640
let's just like look into like
the cistern isn't something that

618
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480
you just like open up a door
that's unlocked and then you can

619
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,680
walk into it, right?
No.

620
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,800
They had to get.
To the top, Yeah, like it's like

621
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,920
a ladder or something, right?
And there's like a little like

622
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,560
opening or whatever.
I'm assuming that's locked.

623
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,040
It wasn't locked, but you would
think it would be.

624
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,120
It's Hello.
It's the water supply, yes, but

625
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,120
it wasn't.
It was not locked.

626
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,560
I mean, how easy was it to open
up?

627
00:35:58,720 --> 00:35:59,840
Easy.
It was really easy.

628
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Just walk up the ladder, swing
open the lid, and there it is.

629
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:12,040
And so she assuming she jumps
into the water or she somehow.

630
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,080
She gets into the yes.
So the police.

631
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,400
This is the police theory.
Yeah.

632
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,400
I'll tell you what their theory
is.

633
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:30,600
So her sister reveals to the
detectives that she had a

634
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,360
history of not taking her
medication.

635
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,840
For what?
Bipolar.

636
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:44,360
Shit.
Now, among her prescriptions

637
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,360
were sorry.
Along of of the belongings that

638
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,480
they found in her room were her
medications and they say they

639
00:36:53,480 --> 00:37:01,760
were seemingly untouched.
She had been diagnosed with

640
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,920
bipolar and was known for, they
say, displaying psychotic

641
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:14,360
behaviour in the past, so police
said OK.

642
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,640
Her erratic behaviour in the
elevator was a paranoid

643
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,480
hallucination.
She climbed into the tank

644
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,920
herself, believing she was in
danger.

645
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,680
They think that as the guests
were, you know, consuming the

646
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,720
water that it was decreasing and
so she couldn't get out.

647
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,240
And they think that she
undressed while she was in the

648
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,000
tank, attempting to remove the
clothing that was weighing her

649
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,680
down.
So they rule her death an

650
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:56,960
accidental due to drowning, with
bipolar being a significant

651
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,280
cause.
Factor.

652
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,200
Yeah, I mean, that's what the
police said.

653
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,920
Yes.
Did her parents say, yeah, this

654
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,720
is like, she's had bipolar
disorder and this is like, like

655
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:11,760
this?
Her.

656
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Yeah, her sister did confirm to
them that she did have bipolar

657
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,960
and that she was known for
sometimes not taking her

658
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,960
medication.
Which?

659
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:27,560
Other resident Here's another
factor.

660
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,160
Yeah.
Apparently, and I couldn't

661
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,120
validate if this was fact or
fiction, but it is reported that

662
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,640
in one of the rooms she was
staying in, well, she was

663
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,200
sharing room with two people.
Like the hostel thing.

664
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:51,400
I like the hostel thing that
they asked if she could be put

665
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,560
into a different room at one
point and I didn't know why.

666
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,000
I couldn't figure out why.
Like they were like they thought

667
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,760
she was weird or something.
I I don't know, right.

668
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,600
Gosh, that's so sad.
It's it's unbelievably sad now

669
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,520
when you hear all of this now.
Yeah.

670
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,600
You go.
It's kind of puts things in a

671
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:22,240
different light, right?
But I don't know.

672
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,200
It's easy to say that that's
what happened, because that's an

673
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,440
explanation.
Yeah.

674
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:36,600
I and I'm not a medical person
and I've never seen anybody have

675
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:44,480
a with bipolar or yes exactly or
any of these you know

676
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:50,760
hallucinations kind of things.
So I I can't speak to it, but I

677
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,000
don't know.
I I think it's just it's really

678
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360
easy to talk it up to mental
illness again, because it's an

679
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,440
explanation.
This hotel is.

680
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,520
If this hotel wasn't such a
freakazoid hodgepodge shenanigan

681
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,840
mess, yeah, then I go yeah,
probably.

682
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,360
But.
It's crazy.

683
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:15,160
I think if you've seen American
Horror Story Hotel, this is

684
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,400
where he got his inspiration
from, was this hotel.

685
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:20,880
And it makes sense because if
you've seen it, like a lot of

686
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:29,040
this weird stuff happens in that
show, who's to say that she

687
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,400
wasn't?
I don't want to use the word but

688
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,400
possessed or affected by all of
this fucked up energy.

689
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,120
I do think that there is
something about like like you

690
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,840
can there's weird energy in
places.

691
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,520
Especially when hundreds of
people have died in it.

692
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Yes, sorry.
OK.

693
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,720
OK.
Agreed.

694
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,920
But OK.
This is probably one of the

695
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440
bigger hotels in downtown LA,
right?

696
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,880
Yeah.
And like one of the first bigger

697
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:07,240
hotels in downtown LA, So over
700 rooms, tons of people have

698
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,640
come and gone out of that hotel,
right?

699
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,520
Yes.
So we're looking at massive

700
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,240
numbers.
We're not looking at like a

701
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,440
boutique hotel or like a smaller
place.

702
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:21,200
We're looking at big numbers and
a very particular clientele that

703
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,120
are more prone to batshit crazy
situations.

704
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,360
Right.
Who might be unmedicated?

705
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:33,120
Who might be, you know, the, you
know, kind of unfortunate folks

706
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:35,960
in our society and who are more
vulnerable.

707
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,840
So So what happens?
Like, you know you're doing

708
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,440
people are doing drugs and then
they're in, they put themselves

709
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,800
or they are in a bad space.
Somebody fucking comes and kills

710
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,960
them.
Like they are easy targets and

711
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,280
what do they call them?
the OR the forgettables, right?

712
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,160
Like these are people who are
easy to kill.

713
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,200
If you have a penchant for that.
Or, you know all of this stuff

714
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:09,200
kind of brings brings these
situations up.

715
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,920
And we are also talking about a
historic hotel that's been there

716
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,800
for fucking ever at a time when
you know LA was just starting.

717
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,480
So I get it and I do agree, but
I also wonder how much of this

718
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,200
is just like a game, like a
numbers game where it just

719
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,320
happens to be in the perfect
plot spot.

720
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,360
Like Skid Row is basically, you
know, drug dealers can go down

721
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,240
there and like sell their drugs
in front of cops like.

722
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,120
Exactly.
They just they want to just keep

723
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,640
them in this area and you just
do your business there.

724
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,520
It's like it's no, there's no
rules.

725
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,440
It's it's it's no man's land and
people like live in tents and

726
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,040
stuff like that like all over
the place.

727
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:56,040
So I mean, it's sad and.
It's just that if you were to

728
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,800
read her, she was a huge Tumblr.
Huge.

729
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:08,960
And if you read her stuff like,
I don't know, there's no sign of

730
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,160
this behavior.
And, you know, she seems

731
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,520
together and taking her trip.
And like, there isn't.

732
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Like there.
Like no one ever got a sense

733
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,520
that she'd ever behaved to this
extreme before.

734
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,560
I think like, of course not,
right?

735
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,120
How often did she take these
trips?

736
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,560
Like, right, She had never done
it.

737
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,800
So that's like adding extra like
stress to someone who might be

738
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,760
more compromised anyway, so you
have someone who's more stressed

739
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,320
out then they're alone And like
maybe she's like, oh shit, like

740
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,560
my roommates think I'm a fucking
weirdo and I haven't been taking

741
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,440
my medication, 'cause I hate the
way it makes me feel and I'm in

742
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,560
this weird fucking hotel.
Hopefully she didn't, like,

743
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,880
bring her laptop and start
looking up like the the history

744
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,720
of the of the Hotel Cecil.
Because then if that were me,

745
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,280
I'd be like, I'd be seeing shit
down the hallway, thank you very

746
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,800
much.
I'd be like, Oh my God, there's

747
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,360
going to be a fucking ghost down
here.

748
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Like, what am I doing?
But you know, you have someone

749
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,120
who's compromised and she's
alone and she's out of her

750
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,240
comfort zone and she doesn't
have anyone she knows around

751
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:19,440
her.
It's not like she was meeting

752
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,320
friends, right?
She goes into a social situation

753
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,280
as the weirdo and the outcast,
so then it's not like she has

754
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,040
anyone to talk to.
And I hate, like I don't even

755
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,000
want.
I'm not gonna blame, like, you

756
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,240
know, the family or anything,
but it's like she probably

757
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,960
shouldn't have been doing that.
Like she probably shouldn't have

758
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,160
been going alone on a trip like
that.

759
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,480
No.
And the parents didn't really

760
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:46,880
want her to either.
Yeah, but she was 21.

761
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,200
And you know, there's like not
much they could do.

762
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,280
And there's like, you just be
very careful and call us every

763
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,440
day.
So here, here's the thing.

764
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:01,640
If this if we were to Ritz
Carlton and this many murders

765
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,320
occurred.
They'd hide it.

766
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,920
It would be a different story
if.

767
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:13,080
Here's the other thing.
If if let's say there's ghosts

768
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:23,080
and spirits and entities fucking
with people, it's real easy.

769
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,880
People don't report, people
aren't going to report it there.

770
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,360
Or if they do, people are going
to just chalk them up as to

771
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,120
being crazy.
You know, drug dealing, meth

772
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,680
head prostitutes.
Right, right.

773
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,600
And they're forgettable people.
Right.

774
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,280
And so there would be no
validity to it anyway.

775
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:48,400
So it's just as plausible in my
mind for this to be explained

776
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,720
because of the the clientele and
the nature of people and just

777
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:55,360
where they are as it is that
this could be something

778
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,080
supernatural as well.
We just don't know about it.

779
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,360
Right.
Yeah.

780
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,480
If there was some weird shit
happening and you have a

781
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,760
schizophrenic person who's like,
who's medicated but still

782
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,760
schizophrenic and they're like,
no, what literally happening.

783
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,640
Yeah, the demon made me twist my
hand.

784
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:20,320
Yeah, yeah, like like I was
trying to like do whatever.

785
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,000
Or like the demon or like the
poltergeist freaking ripped my

786
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,200
hand or whatever.
Like you wouldn't believe.

787
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:27,880
Them.
No.

788
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,960
They are like the perfect
target, the perfect victim.

789
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Bingo.
Bingo.

790
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:43,400
Exactly.
So that was my story.

791
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:51,640
And it takes us back to the
beginning, which is patterns and

792
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,280
the behavior and the things that
happened repeatedly and

793
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,960
repeatedly and repeatedly in the
same place.

794
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,200
And we can all talk, you know,
we can all say come up with a

795
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,000
reason, Oh, totally.
But it's it's a pattern.

796
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,200
It's a pattern, yeah.
Yeah, some something weird.

797
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:09,720
My favorite word?
Shenanigans.

798
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,400
Shenanigans.
Yeah, so golly, I will never go

799
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,880
to the Cecil.
No, I was going to ask like are

800
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,760
would you go and have a?
Glass of water.

801
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,120
There is no reason to go.
There, you wouldn't have a glass

802
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:23,960
of water.
No.

803
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,520
No, no, you know.
No body.

804
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Water.
God, that's terrible.

805
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,360
What if they had like, a
cocktail at their cocktail bar

806
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,640
that was like, called, you know,
oh?

807
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:39,520
My God, the body water.
Yeah.

808
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Fuck, that would be.
Yeah.

809
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,160
Or decomp.
Decomp.

810
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:47,760
Oh my God, no.
I say that.

811
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,840
I say that in jest.
It's really fucked up.

812
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,440
It's.
So unbelievably fucked up.

813
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,560
Yeah?
Especially if that was your

814
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,560
sister.
No, I mean 100%.

815
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,040
Yes.
I would have a horrible.

816
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,800
That would be horrible,
horrific.

817
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,400
And it's like, you know it's.
So preposterous.

818
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,360
This is the thing.
This whole event is so

819
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,080
preposterous.
It's just.

820
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,080
It is you almost.
You almost have to make a joke

821
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,200
out of it because it is really
fucking sad.

822
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,480
It is.
It is.

823
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,480
It is.
Oh my God.

824
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,560
Well, thanks for sharing that,
Grace.

825
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,600
Sleep well.
Sweet dreams.

826
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:22,720
Great.
All right.

827
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:24,360
Talk to you later.
Talk to you later.

828
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:24,840
Bye.