Breaking News - New Comet or Alien Spacecraft?

0:01 Hello, bizarre story friends, you've tuned in at the Bizarre AF, a place where we talk about the strange, the unusual, the unknown, and all things bizarre AF. I'm Kevin. I'm going to be your host for today's episode. And as always, we ask that you please keep an open mind. Keep a skeptical ear, but keep listening to those facts as we take you on our newest journey. Breaking news New comet or alien spacecraft?

0:59 Well hello my bizarre story friends please help me welcome my Co host Des with the most Des Alicia. Hey, girl. Hello, hello. It's. It's so nice to be here. How you doing today? How you doing? I'm good you know what I when we were talking about this topic, I was like, OK, so so I I just want to bring up the fact like sometimes finding weird topics that really make us excited. Yes, sometimes you get a. Rut. You get into. Getting a rut? You can't, yeah, you can't break out this little rut like a writer. Yeah. And so we were texting and we're like, OK, so I was like, yeah, I actually have one that I'm working on.

1:44 We always talk about like we don't tell each other. That's another thing. We never tell each other specifically what right, what we are going to record or talk about right, Which I am always in the back of my mind a little nervous that we're both I'm going to talk about the same thing and we've like put all of this time, effort and energy into. It a good point, I've never thought about that actually. I'm always nervous that that it's gonna happen. It's not happened yet, but we were texting back and forth and you're like, I just this one is not working. It's not I'm in like, it's like a writer's block situation. Do you have is there? If there's anything you can think of, I'm like, actually there's something that has been driving me fucking crazy and it's this exact topic. It worked out great and I have to tell you, I'll tell everyone here, it erode itself like it was just it spewed, it spewed out.

2:38 Divinely guided or maybe extraterrestrial like guided? Yes, exactly. Yeah, I, I So there is it. It doesn't matter what day it is, there's always some kind of new news about aliens, potential aliens, potential disclosure. And like, honestly, just pick one out of the bag and you can be like, oh, this made major news or it's being talked about and nobody knows about it. Right, exactly. And we've talked about that before. It could be a host of reasons why, but one of them being that people don't want you to know about it.

3:21 I mean, it could be just Farsi poo poo, but you know. Yeah, Yeah. So I mean, it's hard to end. And actually we're going to talk about that actual kind of topic at the end of this. We're going to kind of it's going to this conversation is going to lead us into this this actual discussion. OK, Interesting. It's fascinating. OK, so the United States, China, other countries, they're creating, actually creating spacecraft all the time. We call them space probes.

4:01 So these robotic spacecraft, they're designed to explore space, right? Gather information about celestial objects, right? Yeah. Sent to all sorts of locations in our solar system and ultimately beyond, right. To study planets, moons, asteroids, other anomalies. Yeah, I mean, space is huge. It's it's huge. It's massive. And and the idea is that space is expanding. So like, you know, if we were to send something out 50 years ago that like the our universe and like the space that like life, you know, it, it just continues to expand.

4:49 Yeah. And so, so the area is even greater and greater. So you would, one would think you would have to add more and more probes out to, you know, record or get information. It makes sense that you would have not just one to take everything. It's like you would have. Get a whole bunch. Yeah, Yes, exactly. The Voyager program from NASA, right? That's what they do. They send out probes all the time. Some were to photograph stuff, some were to record to get audio signals somewhere to record radiation, some do all of the above. So I mean we exploring our space, right? We can't travel ourselves, so we send probes. Totally.

5:35 Now, you know, some of these are going to travel, ultimately travel outside of our solar system, right? Eventually, because they're on a trajectory, some orbit, like some we send to orbit stuff and they'll stay in orbit forever or until they, I guess, decompose or whatever. But some are just sent, you know, shut out into space and they're just going to travel in a straight line for the, you know, rest of eternity, right, Until we eventually lose, I guess, contact with them, I suppose. But with space being an infinite, and when you start thinking about that too, by the way, when I start thinking about how space is infinite, like forever, like there is no end.

6:19 Yeah, it it's hard to wrap your brain around that, that thought. I feel like I have less my my the amount of brain cells I have in my like like they melted just with you saying that because. When you really start thinking about it, it doesn't compute. We just can't. We can't think. We can't rationalize that right? Absolutely. So it only stands to reason in my mind that we can't possibly be the only Organism or only planet that has some level of life. It just doesn't. Doesn't make sense to me. Agreed. So it also therefore stands to reason that if we're sending space probes out for information, then wouldn't those other planets be sending space probes out for information?

7:10 I mean, doesn't that make sense? Sure. Yeah, yeah. Why wouldn't they be doing the same thing we're doing? I mean, yeah, OK. The only re. The reason that they wouldn't is they already know like. Or they don't need to because they can travel through time. Or, you know, a whole bunch of. Fish, but but yeah, if if we're doing it and space is so vast, why would why why wouldn't why wouldn't there be other space probes? Out there, I mean, it seems reasonable totally. If you if you think that you're if not the only living thing, then other living things must be researching too. If space is infinite, if it's if, if it continues to expand, if we have no clue how big it is right it, it would only make sense that that would happen at least once. That's what I think.

7:57 That's what I think. Well, back in January of 2014, a meteor which was later identified, they called it CNOS 2014 O one O 8 identifies the date that it it landed or crashed impacted this the Pacific Ocean near Papua New Guinea. And nobody thought really too much of it at the time, sure. But after setting its trajectory and its speed for a few years, they discovered it was unique in that it was traveling over 130,000 mph.

8:38 Now, that's not totally unheard of, but those normally travel as slow as 27,000 mph. So this information they discover at this point leads them to believe it was intentional. It was interstellar, meaning not did not come from our solar system, it came from an entirely different solar system. Oh my God. So in 2022 the US Space Command actually confirmed with 99.999% certainty that it was in fact interstellar, and they only do 99.9999 because they can't guarantee.

9:25 Exactly. OK, so they confirmed specifically that it was interstellar, meaning this space debris space? Object, yes. Came from a different area. Completely different solar system. Completely different solar system. So I'm just trying to be like, I mean, come on, I believe in fucking aliens. But yeah, but I'm trying to think from more of a skeptical perspective. Yes. Sure, of course that would happen. If our, if our universe is so huge and like there are so many solar systems that are like once again, infinite, yes. Solar systems, yes. Eventually you'd have something, some kind of rock debris, whatever that had, I don't know, come off like what if it was a fucking volcano somewhere else, came out into the into the stratosphere like in and then wandered over or it was it was an impact from a moon or like a comet or something in a different, you know, sure it's a rock. Yep, sure, 100% doesn't agree with you more. Space is is like rocks floating.

10:38 That is what space is. It's a bunch of floating rocks. And to bring. Exactly. But that's wild. Yeah, I mean. I didn't even hear about that. It's. Crazy because think about the infinite of space and then think about this particular thing from another solar system hitting the microscopic earth. I mean, that's crazy. The odds. Think about the odds. The. Odds are small and then not so small at the same time. Exactly. Exactly. But it's. Fucking weird. It's weird. It's weird nonetheless. Yeah. So they, like I said, they, they, they confirmed that it was in fact interstellar origin, citing the velocity of the object relative to the Sun, but also classified data.

11:29 OK. And it was left at that. OK. That's it. That's how we know. So. That's how they confirmed it. Yeah, yeah, but there's also classified data. Why? If it's just a rock floating and fucking space, how is that classified? IG exactly that's doesn't make sense. Have you heard of oh God, what is it called? I'm going to say Mossenite, but it's not Mossenite moisenite or something. It is this. It trended on TikTok and like on social media around 2020 or maybe before people were like really into crystals. I mean, people still are. Of course, I don't mind crystals. I kind of like them. But you know, there was a lot of people, you know, sometimes you it's like pink is trending.

12:14 This one was like a green one. And it's believed to be a an asteroid or something that is not from Earth. That people have. Rings, stones, it's supposed to. And so every stone has like properties or whatever, but this is something that did not come from Earth. Interesting. And around 2020, like this is something we could probably talk about, but like they're like, oh, I'm going to get this and like things change and like you're going to try to get like, you know, the aliens to come and they're going to save us or whatever, which I don't know. Have you seen Independence Day? There's there's so many. So, you know, that's that people were talking about that and how they sell stones that are, you know, in crystal shops, anywhere you want to go to, you can buy these stones.

13:03 There's no government data. It's not classified. These fucking, you know, moist night or whatever, green bumpy stones. It's an asteroid from a different. But to play devil's advocate like you were doing before, there's so many fucking psychopathic cult leaders that make their own rocks and sell and sell. Them. You mean like mother? God, who's told yes or Sherri Shepherd? Does she do that? Or Sherri? Not Sherri Shepherd. Sherri, my crazy bitch that I keep wanting to talk about. And then there's another guy who made. I think it maybe it was her that made her rocks. I don't know. Anyway, I know. I mean, it's, you know, like who, what to believe.

13:44 Yeah. Yeah. Totally. It's the bottom line, but I'm tell I would personally love to know what that confidential date is. Yeah. What is? Please tell me what that is. What? What? The hell like to your point, like what could they possibly be confidential about that? Right, like why is this not being sold in herbs and arts on Colfax make no exactly like what's the big deal? So with this confirmation, they, they very much wanted to recover the materials to study them if it's interstellar. So they go to the site with this gigantic magnetic, what they call a magnetic sled, and they gather all this material from the ocean floor and they're going based upon where they believe this object impacted.

14:33 It's like I said, in the ocean. And so a guy by the name of it's a professor, his name is Avi Loeb. He's a Harvard professor. I'm sure you've heard about him. And he leads this team in this this research team. And so Professor and his team at first only find a whole bunch of volcanic ash. And so they say, OK, well, we got all of this sludge, let's go run it through some mesh and see what we can find. Well, they go finer and finer and finer and finer. They keep going down and down and down and down. Like 40.

15:16 Or until they're finally at like 1/4 of a millimeter, like, and if you don't want a quarter of a millimeter, it's like it's a grain of sand. Yeah, it's to, to, to tiny, yes. And they take that remnants and they put it in under under a microscope, and lo and behold, they see these spheres. And he called like they come spherules. Spherules. OK. And he starts, he says he starts to lose his shit because he's like, well, if there is one, there's many.

16:02 Where there is one, there is many, Yeah. Right. Yeah, and sure enough, within a few hours, they find more than fifty of these spherils. They call them these spheril samples, and if you're watching, that's what they look like. It looks like like, you know, just to go through. Metal balls. It looks like metal balls. OK, I saw this when we were setting up for the episode and I honestly thought it was just like a holiday screensaver that you put up. So it it is just it looks like honestly gold ornaments like like those basic gold round ornaments that.

16:48 You may have some kind of look, shiny and smooth, some look a little. But they they all have a center, like in the center it's like silver. So it's all gold like glitter. Oh yeah, a couple of them have a little dot. And it looks like there's a dot of silver in the center of it, which it like brings me back to like a 1970s or 1960s like old ornament, gold ornament with yeah, silver, like painted gold with silver. Yeah, that's what that that is what it looks like. Well, that's talk about holiday wallpaper on your on your screensaver. Yeah, that's. Funny, Yeah, You can put a little Merry Christmas on the top with the Yeah, it would kind of look like that, like confetti with some gold balls. Merry Christmas from the bizarre. You know what?

17:31 We should put that. Up Oh my God, that's amazing. Or like. Merry happy holidays from the Interstellar Aliens. Oh, my God, let's do that. That's great. OK, so in 2017, there was another interstellar object discovered speeding through our solar system past our sun, and they called it. Oh, mom. Omu Omu. Omu. Omu Omu. I think it was called Omu. Omu is what they called it. I'm not going to go into this one because we're going to come back to it, but I just want I want to mention it at this point. And that was what?

18:15 Was what? It's another in 2017. 2017. OK, OK, so now the fact that these, we'll call them spheres balls sure were made of material tougher than even iron meteorites and moving faster than 95% of the stars in the vicinity of the sun suggested to this Professor Abby that potentially it could be a spacecraft from another civilization or some sort of technological gadget.

19:03 And he likens the situation to any of the Voyager spacecrafts launched by NASA, hence me talking about that at the beginning of the show. Our spacecrafts will exit the solar system in about 10,000 years, so just imagine them colliding with another planet a billion years from now, right? They would appear like some meteor crashing into their planet. Right. It would have spent so much time out in in the.

19:44 Right. And disintegrated into whatever. Yeah, they may. They may not necessarily know what it is. This is his point that he makes. So profess this professor's trying to understand if these sphericals are artificial or are they natural. And if they're natural, he says it's going to give the researchers insight into what materials may exist outside of our solar system. Makes sense. But if it's artificial, then the questions really kick in. Right. Who created who? Why? What? Yes. Yeah. So in an interview with this Professor Loeb, he is quoted as saying, quote, it will take us 10s of thousands of years to exit our solar system with our current spacecraft to another star. This material spent that time arriving to us, but it's already here.

20:45 We just need to check our backyard to see if we have packages from an interstellar Amazon that takes billions of years for the travel. Interesting. I that is, that is something I cannot wrap my head around right now. So what he's saying OK, 10s of thousands of years, 10. So if our spacecraft, if our probes, we aren't going to leave our solar system for 10,000 years. And this thing is in fact interstellar from another, well, it is interstellar, right?

21:25 It means it has 2 has travelled at least tens 10,000 years at least. At the very least 10,000 like I, I'm going back in like just in time, right? So just over 2000 years ago we talk about like the birth of Christianity, like just over 2000 years ago. I mean the birth of the United States as we know it. Bebes, Bebes. Like 200 something Bebes years ago. Egyptian civilization, right? Like Mesopotamia, that was that was like we still, that's less than 10,000 years ago, right? Like or I don't know, I'm probably talking out of my ass, but like you go back to like King Tut and you know, the Roman, like Roman Empire and I don't think our the Colosseum. Yeah, we're not 10,000 years.

22:26 No, no, no, no, we're not 10,000 years, but like you go back to the Roman Colosseum and and Greeks. It's like we're talking about like, you know, numbers like, like, just sing singular, like 1, like AD1AD is like, yeah. Thousands. We're not talking 10s of thousands or 10s. Of thousands, 10s of thousands. That's like that's like, you know, we're still hunter gatherer societies like not in the same like maybe similar, but the way our social like structures were concerned like that is cave paintings 10s of thousands of years ago. That's us barely surviving. Like yeah, like I said, we're comparatively bebis. Like, not like maybe the wheel like, I don't know. I don't know.

23:16 I don't even think that's the case. My my aqueducts like like this, nothing like it's in. That is so incomprehensible. Right. It's really it really is it? Is at the very least 10,000 years and they are able to send out probes. Our first probes went out. What? Yeah, what, 601950 a couple decades ago or something? Yeah, whatever. That's fucking. Crazy. Crazy when you think about it that way, it really is. And we think we're the most. Intelligent species? Well, we're the only. We're the only species. Yeah, we're talking. About nothing else exists, you know, in our expanding universe.

23:58 So what are these sparrows? So, yeah, as we saw, if you're watching, they're almost perfect spheres or metallic marbles, keeping in mind how tiny they are. And when you look at them in the microscope, they they look very distinct from the background. This professor says they have colors of blue, gold, brown, and some of them resemble kind of the what you would think of as a miniature Earth like if you looked at it from a distance, kind of the colors of them kind of resemble the colors of Earth. Blue. Green. Brown. Yes, Yes, yes, yes. And upon further examination, he said they discovered that within the spheres are more spheres.

24:49 This is not an Orion's Belt. Like a Russian doll kind of thing. Like a sphere and a sphere and a sphere. Do you know what I'm talking about when I say? Orion's Belt? Maybe not. Men in black men in black were Orion, the Kitty cat has. A. Galaxy that's. Living, yes. In his pendant, in the pendant around his neck. It's like his little collar that's. Just. Beautiful. It's a full on universe or something. Right. Yes. Or could it be? An that'll make my head explode, Don't. It could be, it could be a nanobot, it could be a nanobot or something or like some kind of something. But like the fact that you're talking about it being a Russian like this is a mechanical.

25:36 This is mechanical. It seems like it could. Within like a Russian doll, it's like you have like what, 6 or 7, you know, stacked neatly smaller than the than the neck, right? Interesting. It is fascinating. It's fascinating. So these compounds are made-up of elements, including, here we go, beryllium, lanthanum and uranium. And the levels of these elements are uncommon and enhanced hundreds of times. And he said they have never been seen before in any environment within our solar system, not on Earth, not on the moon, not on Mars. And again, these are interstellar, so they aren't anywhere from what we would call here. So you're saying these compounds, these elements are not found on our periodic table?

26:43 They are. We have them, but not at this level, not in this compound, and not in this intensity, all for lack of a better term. So so there are more rare. So in other words, they couldn't manufacture this if they wanted to. Here on Earth we could manufacture this material. But it's not found natural. But it's typic. It's not, it's uncommon. It's like it's not, it's not something you could just go dig up. Interesting. Yeah. So he's saying, you know, it's possible these elements were put together in a technological process for a specific reason. His theory is that it's a solar sail. A solar sail.

27:35 Do you know what a solar sail is? No, I have no idea. So if you've ever seen on space shows or movies or whatever, you have your, let's say, your probe. Yeah. And it puts out solar sails to get energy. Oh, oh, like a yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. Like a little boat sail. Yeah, a boat sail or or like the solar panels that we have our houses, but they're thinner, right? Yes, like microscopic and especially the ones in space, like they have to be super thin and they go out and that's how they collect capture energy in order to pee. Yeah. Like tinfoil. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, that's what he thinks this material is. So it can continue.

28:21 It's like it acts like a battery and it can continue to go towards the destination it's heading for. Right or right probe, just exploring, right? So he thinks this is alien technology set adrift through space, thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago, which he says would also equate to the increased speed. Oh, towards. Of the object which made it, you know, be going so fast. He says again, he likens it to the situation of the the probes that the US has sent up to other planets and will never return. That's what that's what he's keeps equating it to. Yeah. What's also interesting is that there are other potential that there are bigger parts of this still in the ocean. Because during their collection on the sea floor, they had this camera attached to the sled to this magnetic thing that was pulling stuff up.

29:22 And the video picked up them coming in contact with a much larger object, but they couldn't get it up. It was way too big it. Was too heavy. Yes. And so with what they were doing, they, they couldn't retrieve it or really see it cuz I mean imagine on the sledge and everything, you know? Well, and you're trying to pull something out, like, it's like, like when you're in water and you have jeans on and it's so ridiculously, it's like you can't move fluidly within the water. It's like very. It's, it is, it can be incredibly hard, Right? Yeah. They. Yeah. And they just, they just. Want to set up? Yeah, of course.

30:02 Why would you be? Yeah. Why would you be? Yeah, but they're, but they're like, well, could well this thing needs to be examined. We need to know what that thing is. But it was going to be costly for the technology that they needed to get this out of the sea bed floor. It was going to be kind of expensive. So they had to not only get funding, they had to actually get approval, right. Which takes us, interestingly, to the PNG National Research, which is the what's the hell is this place called? I said Papua New Guinea.

30:46 Oh, that's their name. So it's Papua New Guinea National Research Institute. You have to get approval, probably like with any coastal line to to do stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's still within their boundaries. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. Like digging up. And so what's interesting about this is that with all this hubbub, the PNG National Research Institute says that they never received an application from this group to conduct the research. But if you talk to Professor Abby and the research, this research coordinator again, his name was Rob McCallum, who's kind of helping the professor kind of organize all this thing. Base insist that they have been engaging with the PNG government for months leading it up to this expedition and had applied for this permit. And so it was kind of suspicious that now that, you know, there's all this hubbub, that there's suddenly a problem, Right, Right.

31:42 Well. These are people who and who, like, apply for grants all the time. You think they're not going to be on top of that shit? So playing the ad devil's advocate, they did apply, but the application they said didn't really fit into what they were doing, admittedly, and so they never technically got approval for this dig. Oh, OK. OK, they're like, well, we thought this would just cover it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, but the but the problem is, you know, when it comes to this kind of stuff, you have to be sceptical about people's motives.

32:23 Had this been anything else, you've been like, well, you didn't get an approval bitch. That's why they're they're being a thing. But when it comes to this kind of stuff, you're like, well, is that really why they're throwing up us? There's a concerted effort of disinformation. Also, Papua New Guinea works. Papua New Guinea has like very close ties to the United States government. What I imagine because they are, you know, down with the Australia. Yeah, yeah. And Australia, Yeah. And again, I mean, I don't, I don't, I'm not trying to create converse controversy where none exists. And this really could just be, you know, red tape.

33:04 But again, with this topic, we've seen to way too many times where like you said, disinformation. Try to cover things up, use one excuse after another to say why something isn't legit or. You'll release information and then say, well, yeah, like it's it's like the I was like posting earlier, like it is like the Epstein list where there is a lot to be lost in in being transparent. Power is removed from people who are currently in power.

33:45 So why would they? Why It would be way easier to keep people uninformed. Sure, Or or or unsure. It wouldn't be president, it wouldn't be setting a president. Like exactly, Yeah, exactly. You can't trust any of the information, right? So this professor has an interview with CBS News and he says, quote, if there is a technological gadget down there, I would be curious to see if there are any buttons on it, because then the question is, should we press the button? And I'm like, why would you say that? Because he's a fucking crazy ass scientist. He's like, I'm curious, we can't pull it up, so why not just fuck with it?

34:28 You're like, thank God you're not part of the atomic bomb. God, so, so bad. OK, so. But I mean, it's curious. It was a human career curiosity, right? Like. You'd be like Sarjam, man. Yeah, Well, so this isn't the last we hear of Professor Abby. So just a week ago, it was reported that scientists are watching this newly discovered object in space. And most of them, of course, are calling it a comet. But Professor Avi? No, no, no. He says they're very clear signs that the comet in which they're calling 3 I Atlas very well could be an alien craft. Yeah.

35:11 Yeah. So you say, well, why? Well, he says this too appears to be interstellar, but additionally that it's on this weird course. And he says it's going to take it very near Venus and Mars and Jupiter. And he thinks the object appears to be intelligently directed, as if it's an alien or an ET, and that the world should quote prepare. Thank you. He said based on the current trajectory, the object will pass close to our sun on October 29th. OK, I have so many fucking thoughts about this and I think we could probably like we can refer back to a couple of episodes, one project Bluebeam.

36:17 So, so it's, I mean, you're, you and I are so good at this because I was just going to say, do we all remember Project Bluebeam? And then I was going to say, Alicia, tell us about Project Bluebeam. Remind the class about Project Bluebeam. Yeah, OK, so here's the thing about Project Bluebeam. It sounds like a wackadoo conspiracy theory and you're like, there's no fucking way. Which is actually why I decided to do it. I thought this would be a slam dunk episode. I wouldn't believe in a goddamn word that this even said. However, that is not the case.

36:57 I think that there's some legitimacy around this. So a man in Canada around like the 1990s actually came out with this idea. His name is Serge Monast and he's from, he's from Canada, like I said. And he said he had, he was, you know, he, he was a reporter and he reported on weird shit. We're talking about, you know, bat boy, you know, like that kind of stuff. Like he reported on weird stuff, but he actually had someone come up to him and say, I have information that I could share with you. And that information has to do with a concerted effort from the powers that be that currently, you know, control everything to create a big to create a a huge event that makes everyone question everything.

37:56 And eventually this event through technology that we can create. It's by the way it is man made. It's through the technology that these governments do not tell you that they currently have. They're going to be using it on the people at large within the world to unite them against an alien foe. And they have slowly been dripping this information in through Hollywood, through, you know, academic papers like we're talking about currently through news to kind of condition people in this direction. So we talk about Men in Black or Independence Day is like one of the biggies that Serge Monast actually spoke about and said, hey, this is a way that they make you think or get you ready as a population for a potential alien invasion.

38:53 This has been going on since the 1950s, since before then. And we know that aliens exist, but we need to unite people so they do not believe that there could potentially be peace and camaraderie within each other. We have to unite. The only way to unite is through a common enemy. And so there is no longer China and Russia and the US and Israel and Africa and or, you know, the continent of Africa and, you know, South. It's not, it's not these separate continents. It's now we're all humanity and we are coming together. We, Alicia, did a podcast on this exact topic in much detail. I would encourage everyone if you haven't, to go listen to it. And it, as with all of our episodes, and I've said this 100 times, everything starts to connect. All of our episodes have started to connect to each other, which I think is fascinating.

39:50 And I never expected it to happen. It just happened. But since you are my favorite student, Alicia, yeah, Yeah. Why don't you remind the rest of the class what the difference is between an alien and an ET? OK, so an ET is an extraterrestrial, meaning they do not come from here, right? They don't come from Earth, right? They're outside of our terrestrial rock. Outside of our rock. An alien comes outside of our planet universe.

40:34 DNA. DNA. Right, so with that being said, I propose this question. OK. What do you think? How different do you think the I don't know consequence implications of being visited from an ET versus an alien could differ, I mean. OK, it like, I guess it would depend on what the alien looked like, but yeah.

41:20 What do you look like, bitch? Yeah, yeah. Do you look like us? Then you know? Right, which we've we've talked about. So ETS have some level of potential, not the same DNA, but some resemblance of our DNA. Whereas it aliens, as I've said before in another episode, it's gonna be like Star Trek where you have the BLOB walking down the hall and that's an alien 'cause it has none of our shared DNA it. Does not. Look and it certainly would not look like us. So, and I'm not saying DNA makes how you look changes how what you do or believe, but I feel like if to your, I think where you were going is if someone if you have an extraterrestrial that looks like you, you are much quicker to accept and slash, adopt, slash, work with slash whatever, then you would Bob the BLOB.

42:21 Right, right. You can relate to it. It's something that is familiar and, you know, it's something that's familiar and maybe a little bit more comforting than Bob the BLOB, you know, walking through. You know, it doesn't matter if it sounds like you. It's it does not look like you. We can't, we can't even fucking tolerate people who have a different skin tone than us. You know, like that is a problem with humanity. So you think we'd be able to like, cool with a BLOB? Like, yeah, there's no fucking way. No, no, so that, so we've combined all of that together.

43:01 I mean, it's a little worrisome now. And I've told you this, I I'm dying to meet an alien or Niti like I. That's my wish. You might die because you. I but I learn. One. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. They might, they might kill you, you know, depending on who you want or who I can talk to, like. Yeah. And then of course, they have to be nice. I don't want that any crazy person but. The cool ones. The cool ones, Yes, yes, yes. But now I want to kind of take you to the other side of this story, OK? I mean, I'm, I, I want to literally play devil's advocate in this episode.

43:47 OK, OK. You know, please do, yeah. I mean, we love foil crazy trains. I mean that we live for that. In fact, we desire it to be real. Right, we love a fantasy world. Yes, come on. Right. But I had to go down. I had to, I had to kind of search the other side of this. Something was telling me to search the other side of the story. Yeah, yeah. So Professor Avi, he has made a lot of money on his claims and his books and his papers. Now, I'm not saying that that automatically means you're nefarious, but it makes you start to question your motives.

44:35 I'm just saying money makes people, makes the world go round. Yes, yes, yes, OK. So he creates this organization called the Galileo Project that looks for alien life. He has actually compared himself to Galileo. Oh, what a guy. So you're saying, you're saying he's incredibly humble? Yeah, very humble. Yeah, but the guy does have some freaking creds. He's a theoretical physicist. He has a PhD at Hebrew, Hebrew Hebrew University, which is in Israel. Thank you.

45:21 Has worked at Princeton, is a Harvard professor who, by the way, only became tenured after three years. Oh wow, that's. Insane and eventually became the chair of the department in 2011. So I mean, dude is capable. Capable got the creds. They're not, they're not going to be giving him, you know, this ability, which, OK, makes me question like, why is he trying to get so much money? I know that's the part that always bothers me, like why are you? Don't do that. Yeah, yeah. OK, so there's this guy in the YouTube channel. He goes by the name of Professor Dave explains. That's the name of his YouTube channel, Professor Dave explains.

46:02 OK, he calls Ava grifter and a fraud. Now keep in mind, the other thing was what we have to do on this channel is we have to keep an open mind. Right. And a skeptical ear. And a skeptical ear got to keep both. Got to listen to those. Guys find the balance. Yes he OK. He in over and over arching way explains Avi's playbook as this writes a paper outside of his expertise that ignores or completely contradicts existing work and experts. He uses his Harvard reputation to create this buzz around ridiculous claims.

46:50 Quote him to help him sell books and when experts quote expose your bullshit, which is what he says. He he cries and plays victim of the establishment. OK, typical debunker kind of talk, but the more I watched what he said to prove. Avi. To discredit Avi, the more he started really making sense. Who started really making? Crazy Dave, Crazy Dave, we'll call him Crazy Dave, OK? I mean, he is unnecessarily aggressive and unnecessarily demeaning.

47:39 Oh, oh, we know all of these people. We know these people and they're the ones they shoot up fucking school. And it makes me want to just slap him and say shut the fuck up. Yeah, but if you just get past that unnecessary aggressiveness and demeaning and just listen to the actual words and and watch the proof, he makes very valid points. He just may need to get laid. Yeah. Right, right, right. OK, OK. So the valid points that he's making, like, so you're saying he is writing these papers or excuse me, Crazy Dave is, is saying that Avi, Professor Avi is writing these papers and has like no background knowledge of what he's talking about.

48:24 He's right. He's sometimes writing them. Generally, he says. Always. I'm going to say generally based on what I've seen, writing things without all the facts or if he knows the facts, ignoring the facts, kind of like. Sometimes what we do on. The what we do everyday here, I mean, that's, that's what we do. Which is not what you want from a Harvard. Professor Right, Right, right. Right. Right, Right, right. So you remember Omamu, Omamu, Omamu. I. Already call it what they call it. Omo Omamu. Omamu. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, so Professor Avi claimed that this too was a alien spacecraft.

49:06 And one of the main reasons he said it was because it it had this really weird, it had this really weird light. They could, they were tracking it, literally tracking it with a satellite, and they could watch it. It was doing these very strange lights. And he's like, oh, this definitely it kind of alien. It's definitely alien. Well, I then found this Ted talk where this other scientist was actually talking about this particular find and completely explained that the reason that it looked like this was because it was really a long. Like, think of what would I think of it?

49:48 Like think of a rod and a weird odd shaped rod. Not perfectly rod, but like, you know, a rock. Imagine a long rod like rock. And this thing is not only is it spinning this, you know, on the XY axis, also the Y axis and the Z axis. So it's doing this weird thing so when the sun's reflecting on it, it doesn't have a consistent reflection. And so it was creating all of these strange lights. They completely explained it away very reasonably, and you can watch her talk about it. Yeah, it makes complete sense. Makes complete sense. Yeah, well, this was just one example of this half an hour presentation that Crazy Dave does against Professor Avi.

50:39 And the more I watched, the more I'm like, again, aside from his crazy aggressive rants, it started to make sense that that Professor Avi is like, is saying stuff that maybe is getting people excited for no reason. Yeah. Sensualizing, Right? Yeah. I mean fuck if it makes people like look up at the sky occasionally and start about their phones. See, that's the thing I don't know, like and see, and I this is the kind of shit I struggle with because I am confident that we're not alone in the world. And while Professor Avi may be doing the things that Crazy Dave's talking about, it doesn't mean that it's false, nor does it mean that it's not real.

51:36 Yeah. I think that it when you're looking at these situations, it's like it can't, it does not have to be all black and white. It does not have to be Professor Avi or or or Crazy Dave like. It can be somewhere in between where, where the and often is where the truth is found. Yes, that's right. That's exactly right. Another thing that Crazy Dave says is that those spheroids that he found on the ocean floor, they're found everywhere. Like you can find them littered kind of all over the ocean floor. And the see, what did he say?

52:18 Says the the ocean floor is littered with a concentration of cosmic spherules and micrometeorites, as well as volcanic ash and coal ash. So these types of objects are essentially everywhere, and they have been collected routinely for decades. OK, that would make sense. So again, when you when you hear so like, OK, we'll so maybe that's true, but that doesn't necessarily negate what they are right or what they could be. Right, right. I mean if this planet has been around for so long and like our our universe is ever expanding in infinite like it would make sense that you would have space junk.

53:04 Sure, that's exactly right. And the last thing he not the last thing, but last thing I wrote down was that he said it's a very good chance that where they were scraping wasn't anywhere near the impact field. In fact, he showed a map of where they estimate that the field was. And then they had this line where the the boat actually was. And it wasn't actually at that that site. And remember, we can't even find a fucking airplane. There's an airplane we can't even fucking find. So that kind of had some validity to it too, right? Again, I, I, I leave us all with keeping an open mind, keeping the skeptical ear. You have to make your own judgements, but and you can't just always take a single side right and say it. This is always fact.

54:07 Like you said, there's this Gray, there's this area of Gray. I I agree. Actually, I have something pulled up and I didn't tell you about this. OK, but we have talked about this our friend, not our friend. We wish we he was our friend. We're we're we're fanning over him. Lazar. No, no, but close. Jeremy Korbel. Oh yeah, yeah. Love him, does a lot of really cool shit and works with a lot of military folks. He's been in the alien world for a long time. He has talked about something that I think has something to do potentially. Interesting.

54:51 Fascinating. Talking about love. It this thing that is coming towards our earth. Do you remember this OK? Is it the same object I was just talking about or is it different objects? Same object? Oh, we don't know. We don't know, but this was something that was talked about at the beginning of 2025 or the end of 2024. OK, OK. OK, OK, but. Now wants you to know one truth, and that truth is that UFOs are real. They've already done told you. Sometimes when you want somebody to know a truth, it's so you can set them up to believe a lie, and that's coming.

55:34 I have 0 doubt that lie is coming. What is the lie specifically? You want me to say it right now for real? Real. Yes. Please to be put in the show. Yes. Problem with that? If we tell the lie before it's told, they can adapt. That wouldn't be wise. I'll tell you privately, but I would really think about if you want to put this in your. Show, don't worry, we're definitely putting it in the show. That's a real thing I'm telling you. So will you think about it before putting it in your show? OK, so UF OS are real and they've been here a long time and that's the truth.

56:23 But the lie is coming. All indications, like all of them is that that lie is going to be that there is a craft slowly making its way to us here on earth and that is the lie they're going to want you to believe. It's nuanced how they explain that the nature of that threat, but that 100 fucking percent is the lie you are going to be told. Oh my God, I've got. A date People been whispering a date for a long.

57:06 Time do not say October 29th. I'll shit myself where? That lie comes from. I know specifically what document from the 70s initiated the idea of that lie. A classified document. That is the lie you will be told. You're going to be told that there is a craft on its way to Earth. That's the lie. Maybe I'm wrong. Why would he say that? I'm. Wrong. Why would he say that I. Sent you 2 texts today for the year. Not from me. Nope, 2025.

57:48 Get that lie. Not going to be part of it, Not going to say it to the camera. Everybody knows, just start paying attention. They'll change the date, especially if they see this. Things will change because they got trustworthy and worthy of trust. They've told you the truth the whole way through. Now you can verify. If that's the case, then I'm fucking dangerous. You've been told the truth about your foes for a long time now. It's been pretty orchestrated. It's been pretty clear. It's using people that are telling the truth and want to tell the truth. Ultimately, they want you to know something. They want you to know your foes real. Thank God we're finally there. We're all there now. They want you to know the truth, but why? They want you to know that truth now. Hope I'm wrong but. It's terrifying. Think about it. Maybe he's going to get ahead of it. Pull it out now before they do it. OK, I'm just going to end up there. So the the year that he was talking about was 2027. He had text that group, I've heard that the year that they would be releasing this was 2027, the beginning of the year. I'm not sure that they had the scientists had really been talking about this asteroid or this comet or whatever that's supposed to be getting close to our our Earth in 2025 of October.

59:02 I just think it's interesting and I think. Do you know what bothers me is when he says I hope I'm wrong. Because it's fabricated. This is a fabricated thing. The idea, and maybe I didn't share that part, but the idea is that there is a thought like, let's say, OK, let's say we're going to go into like like the standard Star Trek thing where for first contact happens, you align it with the government, you say, OK, we're going to make first contact.

59:45 This is how we're going to, you know, this is like the set protocol that we have and sharing that you're not alone in the in in the universe. That's something that we've been talking about on from Star Trek from a Star Trek perspective. What if that's something that has been talked about from, you know, a governmental or world perspective and there was a date? From, you know, this group saying, hey, we'll have like a whole celebration or like a party where this is how we say hello. We're we're here, we come in peace kind of thing. And this is the date that we're going to do it. And instead of saying, yes, we're going to comply and we know that you guys exist and we're going to extend our hand and say it's nice to see you. Instead, we're going to say you guys are the enemy and these people who know about it are in positions of power. So they may say I have everything to lose. And we have been lying to these people for years and years and years.

1:00:45 And they will come at us and try to destroy us or we're going to lose out on money and like all of these ridiculous things from it. So it would unite humanity against a common threat. Yeah. Threat, enemy. I mean, you fucking Ronald Reagan said it in, hit in in a speech. What would be the best way for us to, you know, come together as humans? It would be to have an alien force come out and, you know, be threatening. That's how the that's the only way. That's how all the movies portray it.

1:01:26 We have been slowly dripped this information which makes me think fucking Project Bluebeam might have a little it just. It just causes me to question everything. Right. How is it that you know, you have nasty of all these like, you know, organizations who are looking at space all the time. You are saying that like this one looks like it could be like, I don't know, there's something up with it. And that's what I think we were saying before is that these sphericals may just be some remnants of some natural occurrence that whatever. But that's just one thing in the pool of things.

1:02:10 Oh my God. Yeah, right. Well, how do you how like. Yeah, great. A great way to, you know, to send out the truth is to overwhelm people in there. We have had. We have a lot of. Overwhelm. So, OK, what are we going to do on October 29th? Well, so that's so I was just thinking about that. So it's it says it's passing by the sun, not us. Not us, but it's the closest. Right, right passing close to the sun on the 29th. So what I how I interpreted it was it's gonna go through the sun and just keep going. It's not gonna like curve around the sun and head towards us right, right. And the way that crazy Dave explained it was that this object was in another. So let's like imagine a planet exploding yes and this debris goes forever and then it leaves its solar system and then our sun slowly starts to pull it towards it right and like a magnet. Exactly.

1:03:04 And so that's why it'll pass closest to the it's just eventually going to pass us on October 29th, the sun and just keep on. It might curve a little bit because of the gravitational pull, you know, stuff does, but they'll just keep on going. Again with all of the information, all of the things. It could be all of the things. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, maybe it's a meteor, maybe it's not, maybe I don't know. It's just again, when you start compiling everything together right, Trying to take it into the, trying to consume all of this into a greater picture. But can we also say, like at the top of every show, like you were saying just before, keep an open mind, keep a skeptical ear, but keep on listening to the facts. Also, discernment.

1:03:55 Can we insert discernment? Does something feel right? Does it not feel right? Does it seem like this person's a charlatan or a bullshitter? Truly, you know, listen to your. Truly. Don't listen to your heart, listen to your intuition. Yeah, OK. Yeah. Exactly. It'll tell you a lot. That's right. Good God. So there we go. So I think we should have like a really nice bottle of champagne and like dress in silks and potentially welcome our, our alien, you know, extraterrestrial friends. I'm not for it, I told you that. OK, let's do it. October 29th. Denver, Co Friends, we might we we may be hiding in the basement looking fabulous, but.

1:04:41 We'll have a cocktail. Yeah, for sure. Oh my God, thank. You for that? Well, thanks for joining me today. Happy town. OK, we'll see you all soon. See you soon. Goodbye. Bye.