The Reincarnation of Dorothy Eady

0:01 Hello, bizarre story fam. If you're tuned in now, you are listening to The Bizarre, A FA place where we talked about the strange, the unusual, the unknown, and all things bizarre. A F I'm Alicia, your Hostess for today's episode, and as always, we ask that you keep an open mind to keep a skeptical ear. But keep on listening to those facts as we take you on our newest journey. Dorothy, Edie. Egyptian fangirl or virginal priestess?

1:01 Well, hello to my favorite cohost with the most Kevin. How are you Boo thing? I'm doing good girl. How are you? Oh, good. I'm good. Especially now that I'm here with you. Good God, girl. You look good. Oh, good, good God, girl. Thanks. I'm like, so stoked. I like like the the little setup that we have. Yeah, it's kind of different, little different, yeah. It's we're preparing for. A holiday we are. Next month? Yes, a very a very spooky holiday. Spooky, spooky seasons upon us. The air is getting a little bit cooler. Crisper. Yeah. The sun's not coming up nearly as early.

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2:27 Little girl. I mean, I know that now in our current life, we have this great bond, yes, and this great time doing this podcast, yes. But do you believe in past lives? I actually do believe in past lives. I do. OK. And you know what? I think the only reason I do is because my mom would talk to me about that kind of stuff growing up. Would she tell you? Well, you know, my parents were really kind of, really into this kind of junk. Oh, my God. Yeah. But we talked about past lives. OK, Yeah. So do you, do you feel like you've had one? Like, do you feel like you've had anything? Or so. I don't, I can't specifically call something out, but I can tell you that like there's people I've met like you that I just feel like there is.

3:21 And I know, I know it's easy to say, just easy to say cuz you whatever, but I just feel like, I don't know. I just feel like people reconnect the spirits and energies reconnect in some form or fashion. And that there are some people that are just instant. They're just like, it takes no effort. Ohh, totally. Yeah. It's like an instant connection. You're like, ohh, we get it. We both get it. We're on the same page. Yeah. It's not like you have to like pry, like you just feel comfortable around the person. You don't feel like you have to like be anything different. It's like they they're already meeting you and and sharing that same energy that you that you have. Yeah, okay. So let's say let's say we both had past lives. What what is a, a time frame or like an area that you think you might have done?

4:06 Now this is just all speculation, but people tend to say that like things that you have an affinity towards kind of point you in the direction of a past life. So it wouldn't really connect to me. Like people that knew me wouldn't necessarily know this, but I feel like, and maybe it's just, um, more of a want. Sure. A wish that's OK. Hope, yeah. Like, I feel like I was some kind of like, I feel like Warriory. Ooh, like a fighter, like a like Fender, like swinging swords and like battle axes. Yeah, like. Like I was a protector. Ooh, I love. Some sort I just kind of I could see that feel like that you are you have that protective energy. Do I?

4:49 Yeah, I think so, Yeah. Especially people I'm close to, I'm very protective and you don't really put up with a lot of shit. That is 1000% true. I love that. Probably sometimes to a fault. Honestly, I don't know about that. That is so refreshing. I love it. So you would say that you're more inexplicably drawn to like like maybe Norse or like some kind of? Yeah, like, I like the first thing that pops into my mind is things like it watched like 303 hundred, OK, I'm saying like that kind of thing. OK, that's what. That's what picture comes into my head, OK? I I've always loved the 1920s and like Art Nouveau at like to a crazy. Yeah, yeah, you have.

5:35 Yeah, I love you. It's so it's so dumb. I I I just love clothes. I love, I yeah. I collect like 1920. The collect vintage by and large. Yeah. And so do you think like that? I love jazz music. It's my favorite music. Yeah, like classic jazz, yeah. Like all kinds of jazz. Well, I love the, the improvisation of jazz. I love how and like jazz music musicians are just so talented. But I there's just always, even as a kid, like my parents weren't into jazz. Are you kidding me? But I was like, ooh, I'll listen to jazz like Louis Armstrong and you know, count Count Basie, Count Basie, like, you know orchestra and stuff like that.

6:16 Like that shit, like really has always touched me and I've always loved it. And I was born in 1987, so it's like, right? Yeah, it's not like I was around it, but I don't know. That's what I would say. I So we have our our time frames now. I'm happy that we're we're talking about this because the woman that we're talking about and the person Dorothy Edie fits the bill for things that she was obsessed with. Now I'll just tell you like a little brief history of Dorothy. She was born in London in 1904 and she was the only child to her, her father who was Ruben Ernst Edie, and he was a Master Taylor, and her mother Carolyn Edie.

6:58 So she was raised in Woolrich, which is actually a coastal town in England, and by the age of three she had an accident. She fell down a flight of stairs in their home and they actually thought it was so bad. She was three years old. They thought she was dead. And what what year was this? So she was born 1904 at three years old. So 1907? 1907, Yeah, she would have. She fought, fell down a flight of stairs. They thought that she was dead and she started acting weird after that. She was asking, like, when she had fallen. She kept on asking that they bring her home and her parents are like, dude, we're in, we're at home, we're at home right now, you know, and she also, so she had a one of those head injuries and they talk about these head injuries like some people get they call it a foreign accent syndrome. Yes.

7:56 Have you? Heard of that? Yes. Where people have these these events and then suddenly they can speak some language that they've never even learned? Yes. Yeah. Which? What the hell? Like you can't. Just like, no, no, no, no, There's something. My point is there's something more. There's something more, yeah, Like. And some people can't even speak like a different language. Like some people have these and it's always traumatic, like head injury or under injuries that these things happen. It's like a fall or maybe a car accident, something where they have like a traumatic, like, injury to their head and they wake up, they have a foreign accent or they are speaking in Italian or something. Yeah, like there's like an Australian women woman and you can find her online and she has like a Chinese accent and almost I I'm not kidding.

8:44 It almost sounds offensive, like like, are you thinking why you mean? Like stop, stop talking like that. You're like bitch, you are offending an entire nation of people and she's like I. Can't for her. She can't change it. She can't change it. She had a traumatic, like, brain injury, and she woke up with a fake Chinese accent. I have theories, but I'll let you go. OK? I can't wait to get into this because I totally have theories. OK, good. Well, so so she woke up with this foreign accent and like, she's like, I wish I could change it. People thought I was lying and they thought that I was just making something out of nothing. But I cannot change my accent. So that's with that woman in Australia.

9:25 But as far as? Doris So it was. Was it English in with an accent? Dorothy. Edie. No, the one that. Oh, are you talking about the Australian? The. Australian one it's just sounds like you can all. Like, was it English with an accent. So she was Australian, She was speaking English. OK, with an accent. Yes, with a Chinese, Chinese accent. And this is a white ass woman, blonde like you know you would. Never trail like an Australian trying to speak with a Chinese accent. But she didn't have an Australian accent. Oh, it was. That was gone. Yeah, it was totally gone. Okay, sorry. So the girl fell down the stairs. So she fell down the stairs. She had that foreign accent syndrome, which people oftentimes think you're just full of shit. Sure, yeah.

10:11 But she was three years old, so maybe she gave her that. You have the past, but it did cause some conflict. Early in her life, she actually at Sunday school. Her Sunday school teacher requested that her parents keep her away from class because she had compared Christianity with heathen Egyptian. Ancient Egyptian religion. Yeah. It's in Sunday school. Sunday school. She's like, Oh yeah, yeah. Christianity is like Egyptian is like this ancient Egyptian religion. And her, you know, Sunday school teacher is like, no, they had multiple gods. We are Christians. We have one God.

10:53 We have Jesus, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, but it's just one. Don't like. Don't mistake that it's only 10. My God. Oh my God. Oh, my God. OK, so she was also expelled from a girls school after she refused to sing a hymn that called on God to curse the swarth Egyptians, the Swart Egyptians. And you know think about it around that time you know England was try still trying to it was an empire still trying to invade areas and like brown people equal bad and yeah they're badge. But she refused to sing this song, so she was kicked out of school and she regularly would visit Roman Catholic Church near her to hear the Catholic Mass because she said that it would remind her of her old religion and. Oh, sorry.

11:50 Go ahead, go ahead. No go. How old was she at this point? Do you think, you know what I would say, that it had to have been, you know, maybe she was 13 ish. She wasn't. She wasn't a grown adult yet, but she, I mean, she was still going to a girls school so had to have been like primary age or maybe, you know, maybe into secondary education. Right, so it's not like her behavior has ultimately changed since she was. Four years old. Falling down the stairs to now, I mean it's like she's like she can obviously articulate more than she can now or the could then, but like the fact that she says things like her old religion or think like when she says things like that, that's crazy. It's totally crazy.

12:35 And people like it seems like, like, you know, it says that she had a lot of conflict, like growing up because she's after this fall, like she it's almost like she was a different person, which we hear about this a lot with traumatic brain injuries. Like people will often change. Typically, you know, you have it with football players where they change in a very negative way. Right. Because they have repeated concussions and. Oh, sure, so. They'll so the brains starting to get defective. Literally. Yeah. But for her, she had this fall and it's maybe like kind of jogged her memory or something. I don't know. It seems like she was different afterwards. Or we'll get to my theory. And it's like, yeah, OK, so the British Museum, have you ever, have you been to the British Museum? No.

13:20 So it's free. If you ever go to London, you can go to the British Museum. And they have. Well, like I said, England was an empire. Yes. And they stole a shit load of artifacts from other countries, right. You have a lot of Egyptian artifacts. I actually worked for the King Tut exhibit that came here to Denver. Yeah, so they what they did was they had all of the King Tut artifacts tour and the idea was to try to create money for a bigger Egyptian museum. Well, they intentionally toured at the arena in London rather than going to the British Museum because the British Museum has stolen so many artifacts from the Egyptian government.

14:10 And the Egyptian. I mean the Egyptian people. Really, Right. Yeah, sure. So she goes to the British Museum, right? And she sees a photograph in the section where it's the New Kingdom Temple exhibits room for Egypt. And she, Dorothy calls out as a little girl. There's my home. And she said, but where are the trees? Where all the trees at? No. Where are the gardens? So she's like, that's that's my old home, that's what I've been talking about. But where all the trees were, All the gardens. What happened? I'm sorry, and what was this a picture of exactly? Do you know? Was it like a village photograph of in of like a new a new Kingdom temple, like at actual temples? That actual temple.

14:56 So she was at uppity up. Well, you think? Well, that's that's what we will find out. Exactly what she thinks, that she was OK. So she's starting to piece of, She's starting to put pieces together. Yeah. And her parents are just taking her. They're like like, we can't get rid of like Dorothy, just be normal. You have this weird ass accent. We we thought this British Museum was going to work. Yeah, we thought this would be fine. But like, no, of course not. So we thought we'd be British enough. But clearly, like there's Egyptian shed. So she's like, oh, there's my home, but she's like calling out different things that are missing. She said, you know, like I said, where are the trees? Where are the gardens?

15:36 And the temple was Seti the First, who was the father of Rameses the Great, which is like the great Pharaoh. Often times you see Akinat and we see toot in common. He wasn't very, you know, big. But like Seti was a huge, excuse me, Rameses was a huge pharaoh. So she ran. She said that she ran about or they that she was running about the halls in the British Museum and she said she was amongst her people. She was kissing the statues feet that she saw like that they had. They have these like, huge statues, sure, in there. And they're like, oh, she she starts kissing them. She's like, oh, I'm around my people finally. And she's kissing and like, touching all these things in a fucking museum, which they probably had different rules then like than they do now.

16:26 Yeah, I'm thinking what they kicked out of there because of Dorothy, Edie. Yeah, right. Thanks. Like, yeah, this fucking, this bitch. She's like, can't get her hands off of it. So after this trip, it really had an impact on her. She's like, I, you know, I'm not making this up in my head. This is very real. So she took any, any moment that she could go to the British Museum. She went, she went to the British Museum rooms and she actually met this guy, EA Wallace Budge, who was a Hoity toity dude who was really, it was a scholar as well, but he was really into Egyptian shit and he encouraged her to study hieroglyphics and around this time was like World War One, right?

17:17 So she very narrowly escaped a bombing raid during World War One and moved to her grandmother's house in Sussex, away from the museum. But she still continued studying ancient Egypt, and when she was 15, she described A nocturnal visit from the mummy of Pharaoh Setti, the first A. Nocturnal visit, which is that's mean. So that's The thing is she was sleepwalking. She had nightmares. Her behaviors like starting to change quite a bit now. I don't know. Talk to me about it. World War One's going on.

17:59 She barely escaped like a bombing. Like she almost died. Probably going to scare the shit out of any kid, like, anyone 15. Like I would be fucking terrified. Anyone. Yeah. Period. So. So maybe that's part of it. Maybe that's why she was like, having almost like, night terrors, right? Yeah, How could you? Yeah, I but yes, it makes total. Sense. Total sense. So she so she she actually was brought because of this bizarre the bizarre behavior that she was exhibiting. She's placed into a sanatorium which was a mental and. People thought she was just cuckoo, right? Well, I mean, honestly, she is acting a little. Bit she's acting a little crazy, like, yeah, because here's the other thing.

18:48 Sorry, I'm just gonna say this like you could you could be. Or a person who, or you could be her and not be so crazy about it. Like I could just and you know, I see the mummies, I'm sorry. I see the crypt and I see the feet. I'm not like, maybe I maybe I shouldn't run over there and kiss that, you know what I mean? Like, have some sense, maybe just a little bit, Dorothy. Like, we get it. You have an obsession. But like, like, like play it cool. Like play it a little cool. Calm your tits, girl. Yeah. She's like, I don't have, I'm either on or off. Like there is no in between her.

19:29 So you know it's it. I mean it's kind of sad that she was she's saying all these things. She's studying. They're like, this is an obsession. She's acting crazy. They put her in a mental health, our mental ward. And several times. That's not just once. Like she's constantly in and out of this because they're like, you are acting like a fucking crazy person. And she's like, well, but I had a past life and World War One is going on. I mean, come on, I have really good reasons to act like a crazy person. So she actually left school at 16 and of course visited all the museums that she could. And archaeological sites, she was really into archaeology and her father was investigating a lot and he into the nationwide into the cinema industry.

20:23 So they started getting more money because he start, he's starting to, you know, do well with cinema. So she becomes a parttime student at an art school and then starts also collecting affordable Egyptian antiquities. OK, So because at that time, like people would sell or go to Egypt and bring over a ton of like mummies and stuff. That's why, you know, you a lot of these, like big tombs were rated. Yes. So. Right at 27, she starts working in London with an Egyptian public relations magazine. And she, of course, like any way she can get into Egypt, she's doing it. So she's writing articles, drew cartoons, and she was for support of an independent Egypt.

21:10 And that's when she meets her husband, who is an Egyptian student. And then she continued to talk to him once he returned home. But she ends up moving into Egypt. So. Wait, hold the phone. She meets it. Does she meet her husband in Egypt? No. So he's a. Student in OK in the UK. In London, yes. They meet because she's doing, she's doing Egyptian like magazine or whatever. Yes. And he's a student. He ends up going back to Egypt, but they like me and she's like, oh, I'm attracted to whatever. They have like a thing going on. Yeah, he goes back. They start. They're writing back and forth. OK, And he ends up in 1931. He asked her to marry him and come and live with him in Egypt. OK, I mean.

22:00 Was he Egyptian? He was. He was, like, legit Egyptian. He was. He wasn't from Egypt. Got it? Yeah. Yeah. OK, so he's like, hey, marry me. And she's like, Yep, I'm there. When? Tomorrow. Right now. What? What? What's the what's the quickest flag I could get there? What's the quickest way I could get there? She's she's there in a second. Sure. As soon as she arrives to Egypt, she kisses the ground and announced that she had come home to stay. Talk about a dramatic queen. Yeah, yeah. From day one, yeah, they're like, well, OK put. Her in the Kuckoo house.

22:44 So they she and she's like, Nope, already been there. I have the I have the punch card exactly on my 10th visit. You know I get something for free. So they they live in Cairo and you know she's getting along with the parents. They nickname her Boo Boo, which means Nightingale. Their son is named Seti. So she has she has a son and they named him Seti, SETY dot SETI, which remember we were talking about the temple of SETI. Yes. She's hardcore girl. Yeah, she is girl hardcore.

23:24 So it's a derived from her popular name Om SETI, which is mother of SETI. So she actually met with this George Risner's secretary. And so he was she was saying that her ability to charm snakes and told her that her her that spells on such powers were in early Egyptian literature. She she's like, oh, OK, I he's like you. There's something up with you. And she's like, no, duh. You know, of course, I think I'm an ancient Egyptian. And he's basically saying like, I think that you are like that, that you're really tied to this culture.

24:06 And she ends up going to with this guy, to the secretary to Sakura in the early 1950s. And she bought, brought an offering, which is what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to bring an offering. And then she took off of her, off her shoes before she even entered the pyramid. Because you can go inside these pyramids. Yeah. Yeah. OK. So of course she's doing the most the absolute people like, no, this is just like a visit. We're trying to show it to you. She's like, oh, no, here's my offering. Yeah, this is this is my my place. Like, OK, white girl, that's what that's what this motherfucker Howard Carter said too.

24:53 And found King Tut's tomb like, whatever, anyway. Yeah, yeah, So she continued. Like, you know, she's doing all the things. She starts saying, oh, I'm seeing apparitions around me. Oh shit, yeah, I'm having these out of body experiences now. This is causing. OK, Wait, wait. Yes, please. Wait a minute, Dorothy. Dorothy, Dorothy. Sorry, I had to do that. I'm sorry. Sorry, you've been waiting all episode, haven't you? I really have. Okay, here's the problem.

25:38 What's the problem? If she were again to have calmed her tits down right way long ago, yes. And then said. That she has some Apparitionee mediumy shit happening. Yeah, Okay maybe. I believe maybe. Yeah, sure. But Dorothy has had some Cray Cray tits on her whole life and then on top of it is now getting visited. She's getting visited. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry, but I so I was right.

26:18 I was there with her until she started acting crazy. And now I understand people are like, OK, Dorothy, no, Dorothy though, like Dorothy's always been true to herself and I through. That is like. Of all the things that is so true. Fruit herself, you have to respect that, right. Like, I'm trying. I'm really trying to. I'm digging here. I'm really trying to find something. Because it's like listening to a white woman talk about how she's Egyptian is like, really feels very wrong. We call that something very different today, right? We do, Yeah. Yeah. So this like behavior is really causing some problems with her Egyptian family, their upper middle class family and that she had married into.

27:04 They're like. You're embarrassing. You're embarrassing us. What the hell? So she's she at first was reporting these apparitions and she wasn't really saying anything, but in the beginning, it was Horra. And Horra is a God. And he she said that Horaw was slowly dictating to her over a year, a year's time. This is what was happening, the story of her previous life. OK, so she actually wrote this down of because Dorothy's gonna Do the Absolute most. She doesn't write it down in English Girl. No, she writes it down in hieroglyphics.

27:46 No. Oh my God, yeah. OK, she's she was. So she learned. She knows this by now. She knows it. Yeah. Like she Yeah. I mean, she has an obsession. Yeah, right. Right, Kevin, Right. So, so the story is about this young woman in ancient Egypt who had reincarnated, who had reincarnated to be her, and her name is Benta Schrite, which means the harp of joy. And in the text it's it the woman, the girl that she was in ancient Egypt was her mother was a vegetable seller and her father was a soldier during the reign of SETI the first, right. So she's, like, kept on talking about SETI. Yeah, so when she was three, in this previous life, her mother died and she was placed into the King King, the temple of Calm El Sultan, because her father could no longer afford her. So she was like given up as a priestess. So there she was, She was brought as up as a priestess. And when she was 12 years old, the high priest asked her if she wanted to go out into the world and like, experience the world, or if she wanted to stay and become a consecrated virgin. And who?

29:13 When he's so did he and sorry, I don't know the terminology, did he sell her her dad? Yeah, that's a great question. Or was it like just like you need to go away cuz they can't afford you? I I think that. I mean, it says that she needed to go away cuz that he couldn't afford her. I wonder if there was money tied to it. There's definitely money that he doesn't have. It's it sounds almost like an orphanage like situation, right? Where it's like here, I can't take care of you. Be breezed in this you know, with these priestesses. So then that. And so then they're saying to her, like, now you can go do your thing. Now you can go experience the world, yeah. Or you're a woman now. You're 12 years old. Make this decision.

29:56 You're right. Make the decision of your life now. What do you want, girl? Or. What kind of virgin a consecrate consecrated? Consecrated version Virgin. Yeah. And what does that entail? It's a great question. I don't really know right now. Interesting. Well, OK. Sacred. It's a sacred version. But the 12 year old, should I like OK, so yeah, so I lied. I do. So a consecrated version. Virgin is kind of like, well, you know, you know, not nuns. How they take like a vow of celibacy. Sure. And it's because, like the idea is you're so devoted to God that, like, God is your everything. You're married to God.

30:44 Okay. Yeah. Okay, I'm with you. No. Yeah. Okay, I'm with you. OK. So, but you're saying that's kind of like what that is, that's like similar, yeah. Got it. OK, Roger, Roger, 10, four. So she doesn't know because she's 12 years old what the hell that means. And it's not like she's going to leave and be like, oh, I know exactly. I have money and I can start my life. What choice does she have? Right. She makes the decision to be a virgin, of course. So during the next two years she learned what her role was in in this annual drama of Osiris's passion and resurrection, a role that only virgin priestesses that are consecrated to Isis could perform. So one day Seti the first, which was the Pharaoh at the time, visited and spoke to her, and they became lovers. OK, right.

31:44 This is what's being told. Yeah, yeah. Eating the uncooked goose, which is an ancient Egyptian term that's been compared to, like eating the forbidden fruit. Like this is the forbidden fruit. Like he's. Yeah. So when she becomes pregnant, she tells the high priest who the father was. And the high priest was like, this is like the biggest offense ever. You cannot like. To the gods. To Isis, yeah, the gods. It was so terrible that death could would be the most likely penalty at a trial, so.

32:25 But it was a pharaoh, for God's sakes. Like, doesn't he have some say time and time again? What have we learned about men with Dicks? Yeah, right. They care right in the moment. Right up until they they care. Right up. Right up until the moment that they get what they want. Doesn't matter. You know what I mean? Yes, exactly. And then it doesn't matter. It's like what? Who are you? Yeah. Who are you? You served your purpose. Dorothy, I don't know. Dorothy. Dorothy.

33:05 So she didn't want to face the public scandal for SETI because she was, like, in love with him. So she committed suicide instead of facing trial. Yeah. Which is really freaking sad. Now moving back to that right? Like The thing is, is like, did this actually happen? Yeah, so cuz cuz let's remember this, all this was communicated to her over a year. Yes, from this entity. And so I wonder, it's not like they're gonna have records of this, but I'm just wondering, did they even try to see if there was any? We'll get into that there.

33:53 Is there is there any record? So like the question is is like would they have recorded? Yeah. What would they have recorded? Especially since he was like, who's Dorothy? Or of course her name wasn't Dorothy then, but yeah, yeah, cuz she was, yeah, she was like, can be like the side piece cuz she got pregnant and then it was all fucked up. So, yeah, like, what would they record? Come on, Don't you know, like the secrets of not getting pregnant, girl. Oh, right. That's right. You're 12. Yeah, exactly. Oh my God, like I was fucked up. Anyway, so 1935. Now remember she had moved to Egypt and got married. 11931 Okay 1935 She and her husband separate so she's doing all this crazy ass shit and her husband and their family.

34:40 They lasted 4 years of this crazy stuff like enough. No more. But she's in Egypt. She's in Egypt, right? She's like, I'm never going to leave. That's what she said when she stepped foot. I'm never leaving my home again. So she separated from her husband, and when he took a teaching job, he actually went to Iraq. They were going to separate anyways, I think their son Setty. Who is an Egyptian? Yes. Who's part of. Right. Like, yeah, he was born in Egypt. Yeah. Stays with her in Egypt. So two years after the marriage broke down, she actually went to live near the Giza pyramid. So those big pyramids that you're used to seeing, that's where she lived near. And she met an Egyptian archaeologist at the Department of Antiquities in Egypt who employed her as his secretary. And she was actually the first female employee. And her, he loved her everything that she did. She was a people had said looking back at this, that she was a great help to Egyptian scholars, especially Hassan, and she actually corrected their English and writing English they she wrote English language language articles for them. Yeah.

36:01 So her extra is great for them, yes. Her extra is not great for her normal relationship. Yes. They're like, oh, you're gonna help us, like, for basically nothing. She's like you're. Going to back to crazy about getting all this right. Oh, yay, great. Perfect works for us. So they said that she was really first rate and a prolific and talented writer who even under her own name, she produced articles, essays, monographs and books of a great range, wit and substance in Egypt. So she of course is obsessed and she's around a lot of archaeologists and things and she befriended all the big like Egyptologists of that time. She had even made like such a great contribution that they they straight up hired her for excavations like she worked on on huge excavations and there excavations At Giza she's actually specially mentioned saying that with sincere gratitude, you know to Dorothy for her editing, drawing, indexing and proofreading work.

37:19 So she really, she was obsessed but she really, really loved it and they loved that she loved this. So that was when she was at Giza. She ends up the project that she's working on is terminated 1956 now, so we're moving forward 20 years. Really. Right. So it was like 191934. Now 1956, she's unemployed and she her, like the person she was working with, said that you should climb the Great Pyramid and when you reach the top, just turn W address yourself to your Lord Osiris and ask him Quo Vadis. Which is like fucking crazy that he would even say that to her. What?

38:08 Does it mean, mean I like, like maybe like what direction are you going to go into? So he actually offered her a choice and taking a well paid job at the Cairo records office, which or poorly paid position and abdose which was a different area as a drafts woman, which is what she was doing before the writing like you know, basic secretary work and she guess which choice she chose. The one she knew. The one that she knew, so the one that didn't pay as much. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what she did, cuz she's crazy, I'd be like. Cuz she's crazy. She's living her two self. Why would I make the better choice? Yeah, right, right.

38:55 So she, of course, chose that, and she actually reported to everyone. SETI approves of this because remember, she's having these dreams and stuff. Dorothy, what are we gonna do with you? You know what? You kind of have to love the cooks. You have to love the crazies. You too. You too. Yeah. So here's OK. I'm just gonna say this real quick. I I was like, into her, like in the beginning. I'm like, yes, girl, let's like, figure this out. Yes. And then? Yeah. And then she disappointed me because she turned into be something that I didn't think she was going to do and then she's a nuts but that back to your point like OK now we know who she is and we need to just love Dorothy for being Dorothy. Yeah, Dorothy is Dorothy.

39:43 She's not gonna she. She is true to that, to being Dorothy or. Yes, she's not a fake because. Because it's not one thing one day and one thing the other. It's like it's extra every day, so she's good. It's all good. So she's 52 at this point, right? Yeah. She leaves for Abdos. And this is, like, not a city, right? She's kind of living. It's like living in the sticks. And it's not like you have all of the creature comforts that we have today, right? Sure. And she, the ancient Egyptians, actually believed that that the mountain that she was near led to a mentee and the afterlife. So it was here that she actually began, began to be called Omsetti because it was customary in Egyptian villages to refer to a mother by the name of her eldest child. So it's like mother, like, you know, mother of. Yeah, not not the not the mean ones that we we say it's a lot nicer.

40:49 So she believed that this is actually where her past life where she had lived and served in the temple of SETI. She said this is where this is actually where I had lived and she had made some short pilgrimages to the site before like the the area that she believed that she lived in. So and she was like this is where I lived. This is where this temple was, and that one of the temples, the Chief Inspector from the antiquities department was like. He tried testing her. He's like, okay, bitch, you're fucking crazy. Like I know there's no way that you can know some of these answers. So he said. He decided to test her by asking her to stand at a particular wall, a particular wall, paintings and complete darkness. So she was asked.

41:39 It was dark in there and she was instructed to identify them based on her prior knowledge as a temple priestess. It's. Like. And has she been in here before? No. OK, like, come in here. Yes. What? It's dark. What are these paintings? Yes, cuz you should know cuz you were here. Yeah, yeah, got it. She fucking. She did it. Does it? No, she does it. And the painting locations hadn't even been published at the time, right? So they hadn't even published or shared any of this information yet. Yeah. And she's like, oh, Ding, Ding, Ding, They're like, God damn it, this white woman. What the fuck you know? So she actually spent the first two years listing and translating pieces excavated from the Temple Palace. And you know, you can actually still see a lot of this work. He once again, this crazy woman is helping all of this. And she's pointing out to things that they're like, Oh yeah, she she's actually helping us.

42:40 And like, she's determined, so we'll take it. So she in 1957, she actually wrote out a liturgical calendar of feast days based on ancient Egyptian text, which was a huge deal at the time. And the Temple of Seti was like her place. This was a place of peace and security, and she really felt like she was watched over by ancient Egyptian gods there. And she actually claimed that in her past life as Benish, right the the temple had a garden. Like I said before, that's where she had first met Seti. Who was Seti The first who was, yeah, the dude.

43:22 She blinked. And her descriptions as a young girl, remember when she went into the the British Museum. Yes. And she's like where's the. Yeah, yeah. Where's the tree? Where's the garden? Where's this? And you know she's while she wasn't believed by her parents like you're crazy and she's like, no, I'm not. She goes there, sees it, and she's like, this is where the gardens were. They find gardens like proof that there were gardens there. It's no longer like there are no longer gardens. There are no longer but they. Like ask a garden. Excavate and do their little exactly where she's 20. She's like, yeah, yeah.

44:03 She's like this is the garden that I met Seti, this is where this is and and and they're like excavating already this area and she's calling the shit out and they had no idea Wow. Isn't that insane? That's nuts. And and you kind of like, I don't know. Like, in my head, I'm like, I don't know, could she be? How many times did she do this? And she was wrong? Like, how many times is she like, oh, this is like, this is where this is where the McDonald's was. And you're like Dorothy, there's no, there are no McDonald's. Like, you know, she could have been right. Anyway, she was so extra. She would go to the temple to recite prayers for the day, right on birthdays of Osiris and Isis. She would observe a like the ancient food. They would abstain from specific foods. You know, like Lent, you don't have, like, you know, things like that.

44:57 She would bring offerings of beer, wine, bread and tea biscuits to the Chapel of Osiris. She would the lament of Isis and Osiris she which she learned as a little girl. She would recite, and she turned one of the temple rooms into a personal office where she carried out her work and she befriended a cobra that she fed on a regular basis, which the guards who are in the area we're freaked out by, Of course they're like this fucking crazy because. They're normal. She's like, oh, there's there's my cobra.

45:37 I feed him and like, the temple guards are like, we can't get you out of here. You have like, this guard cobra. She's literally crazy, crazy crazy. Oh my God. But she was so obsessed with that temple. And she was like, it's like entering a time machine where for her the past becomes present. It's really, it made everything real. And she felt at peace there. And she said that she had like the modern mind that she grew up with. She really has difficulty understanding the magic that she believes exists in the world, right? But there is like where she can find that magic again. Well, you know.

46:29 Good for her. Seriously. Like, good for her. If she's happy there and that that gives her her happy place, then I mean, So what? OK, great. Just don't be crazy around with other people. I think like, she was just like one of those. She's one of those people who are just kind of crazy but, like, but like the crazy, you know, when you talk to someone who's a little off, which I always love. Are you kidding me? And I'm not like, I. Because they're interesting. So interesting. Yeah. And and like, you'll hear some, you know, words of wisdom and you're like, dude, you're totally straight on. Like, yeah, there's some things you're very left of or right of center. But like, you get some things really right. And I think that that was with her. Like, she was really seen as a community member within Egypt. Yeah, they would come to her asking for cures of like, impotence and stuff, and she would carry out rituals based on ancient Egyptian texts on these folks. And like, I don't know, I don't know how I feel about that, but like, does it give people Peace of Mind? Does it help them?

47:43 Like, maybe, I don't know. But she. Yeah, I I too. I have mixed feelings about that. Yeah. I mean, so she's done a lot. She did a lot for for Egyptian, like just translation and helping get the word out. And she was obsessed. But we go back to that place of Dorothy. You are a lot so back. You know when you started this? I was thinking here's what I was thinking. Yes, I was thinking that when people have these accidents and then they can do these things.

48:33 Have you ever seen that TV like in it's those movie and I can't remember. I've seen this a couple of times in a movies where the I think it's actually that Will Smith. Men and black too. But like or no, it was a different one anyway. So that people die and then they go, we have to erase your memory so that when you go back then you don't know anything, right? Yeah, I'm not saying that's what happens, but I'm just saying like like if we believe in that, we are all energy in some form or fashion and that energy just transfers into other energy and never really, you know, dies. That isn't it theoretically possible then that souls, humans, energies like when she was she was an Egyptian and then she had her accident and then that energy kind of like recalled what it didn't normally know.

49:30 Oh yeah. Like, this is just one theory of, like, past lives, yeah. And so that that would kind of explain like how people speak or know or learn or remember or something. So it's kind of like their past life kind of slipping back through, right? Yeah. And again, I will say this, maybe that's what happened to Dorothy, but but just because she was so Cray, Cray it was just hard for people to. You know, think that. Or you know what I mean, like, help her think she's like somewhat reasonable and I'm sure they wouldn't back in anyway. It's not something they talked about. But look, like there are people.

50:20 The world is filled with a cornucopia of folks, right? Some of us are just more than others. Some of us are less. Some of us are just, you know, we're all just right. But, like, there are some people who are just extreme no matter what. And it's like maybe she had just one of those extreme personalities no matter what. Yes, And like this just triggered like she had this and she would have been extreme no matter what. She would have found something that she obsessed over. But this fall, at three years old, really, like, change the rest of her life, right? So. Sized it, Yeah. If you see those, like kind of what you're talking about before, you know those crazy people that talk about and you said they have like a moment of brilliance.

51:01 Yes. Well, maybe it's just they're always brilliant and that it's so scrambled or communicate in such a way we just can't understand it. I think that. I think we. And then maybe over once in a while they say something in a way we understand or that they can communicate effectively. But maybe they're smarter than us. Maybe they know more things than we do and we just don't know. They don't know how to articulate it and we don't know how to understand it. I think that's a great thought. You know, I think that there's brilliance and everyone. And I would say that you and I are both humanists and like, we want to see the best in people. And we also think, no, that this world is a little fucking kooky. And why would the people who are kooky and bizarre not have a little bit more insight than we do? Like, we put filters on what we see in this world. And there is so much to it.

51:57 I'm with you. I think that someone like her, you know, it just depends on where you're at. Some people embrace that kind of kooky Ness. And she did do a lot of great things like, you know, the woman was, like, forced into retirement and he jumped. They're like, they're like, you should retire. She's like, well, but actually and they're like, OK, fine, like five more years, girl. They're like, then they they finally were like, okay, you actually really do need to retire. And she still was helping out, right. She was still helping and like, you know, showing tourists like, you know, a good time and like doing needlework. And, you know, she just loved, she loved it. She loved being in Egypt.

52:38 And here's the thing that I love about people who are a little kooky is like love finding people's passions, like watching people, like passionate about something and just watch them geek out about it. Like, like, imagine seeing Dorothy and she's like, oh, like reciting this fucking thing and you're like, what? But she's like, so into it. And it's like, it's really infectious. That energy is very infectious. And we need, like, honestly, we do need some. We need people who are not afraid of being themselves. And I'm going to take from our girl Dorothy to not be afraid of who you are and not be afraid of being a little extra. Because there's nothing wrong with that, right? You know, and you could do some really cool things if you're a little extra.

53:23 And by the way, you're not hurting anybody, no. No, right. Being a little extra. You're not. You're just extra. You're just extra. Yeah, from 2. Like extra people. Exactly who we kind of were checked tonight. We were totally checked tonight. We were so checked tonight. It was, it was a great, a great moment. Reminded how we are a little extra and we're like, yeah, yeah, right, right, yeah. But that's that's our story of our professional priestess. Yeah. Yeah, I will. I will say it again. Like I I think there's the many things that could have happened to her, IE trauma, right?

54:08 Both physical and mental in her life that could have made things. Happen or, you know, whatever. Yeah. But I also, I don't know. I just have to believe that there was some real stuff mixed in there, like some legit things that we don't understand. Well, I I think that it's the fact that she was able to call out specific areas. Yeah, I mean, there there's something up with that she. And you know the naysayers will. Come up with a nice reason? Sure, but that's with anything. She's been saying the same thing for a year. That said to That's just it. Yeah, she was like freaking six or seven and she's like, oh, I'm finally home and like acting like a crazy person. She's like, where are all the gardens? Where's this?

54:52 Like it's Her story hasn't changed. Exactly. You know, she's not like, OK, actually I'm not Egyptian. I'm ancient, Sumerian or like whatever, right? It's always the same thing and she's saying the same things. But I I'm, I'm with you. There's something to it, whether it's like a greater consciousness that she tapped into, whether it is like one of those, like, you know, memory for forgetter white birds. There's something there. But. Yeah, there's something there. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think reincarnation is fascinating and again, I've it helps me think it's more plausible when you think about if you think about it from an energy perspective, just it's energy that helps it be a little more.

55:42 Agreed. I totally agree with that. Real. Yeah. Thanks for fascinating episodes. Yeah, thank you. It was super fun. I love talking about fast lives. We'll have to do it again. Please. Yeah. OK. Thanks. Thank you. Bye.