VooDoo - The Truth Behind A Sinister Narrative

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Hello bizarre story friends.
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I'm Kevin.

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And as always, we ask that you
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skeptical ear, but keep
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take you on our newest journey.
Voodoo the truth behind the

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sinister narrative.
Hello my bizarre story friends

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and my Co Hostess with the most
is Alicia.

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How are you girl?
I'm good.

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I'm so good this this.
I think that we're doing a

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little bit of voodoo over here
because.

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Voodoo magic.
Cocktail because I'm like, ooh,

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how did that have?
I didn't see that.

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Magically appeared in front of
you.

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It's Oh my God, Voodoo.
I love this life.

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I love this life I'm living.
#Truth.

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Hashtag my truth.
This is my truth.

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Yes.
Yes.

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So.
Alicia yes, Sir.

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What do you think of when I say
the word voodoo?

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Okay, Can I tell you like the
first thing I think of?

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Yes, I wanna know.
So the very first thing I think

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of is voodoo.
You do.

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Voodoo you do.
Voodoo.

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Good God girl, are you gonna get
RIP?

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Good God, girl.
Get a grip.

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Like, honestly, that's what I
think of, like, in my head.

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That's what I say every time you
say voodoo.

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That is what I'm saying.
That's the inner model.

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I don't know.
I have no idea.

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It's probably like something
like there was in a cartoon in

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the 90s or something.
I have no idea.

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But that's the first thing I
think of.

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The second thing I think of.
Voodoo that you do so well.

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Yeah, yeah, it has.
It has to be something.

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But then I think of like.
I don't know.

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More like, I think magic and
like the South or like New

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Orleans.
OK.

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And it was like, I don't know,
like Haiti.

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Yeah, OK, OK, but what else?
What else the images conjure?

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What images conjure in your mind
when you hear the word voodoo?

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The Princess and the Frog.
What is wrong with you?

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What?
Dude, honestly.

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Like, really?
OK, well, have you seen The

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Princess and the Frog?
The Disney movie?

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No.
OK, it's cute.

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It's really cute.
It's worth it.

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You would like the music?
Voodoo.

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There's some voodoo.
I believe there's some voodoo in

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it.
OK, so let me ask you this.

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What is the voodoo in the
Hollywood picture?

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What does the What is the
voodoo?

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Well, it's like there's like
skulls and like like animal,

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like bones, like bones.
And I I always think like, but

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like a like what is wrong with
me?

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But I think of like a like a
plume of smoke or something like

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mysterious, like like
mysterious.

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I always think of The Color
Purple.

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Yeah, yeah.
OK.

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OK.
Does that.

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No, I.
Have no, I'm like.

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I'm having some semi.
Tracking Kevin's like Alicia,

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I'm on for the ride.
The Cuckoo ride.

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Where are we going?
Cuckoo town.

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Cuckoo voodoo.
You do hoodoo every time.

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Just remember, that is what I'm
picking in my head, OK?

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But that will not leave my.
Please tell me about voodoo.

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Yeah.
Well, so.

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Am I on the right track?
Well.

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The answer is no, Alicia The.
Answer is, we did not say what I

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thought you were going to say.
Let me just say that.

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I totally.
My next sentence were was Well,

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you're not alone.
Shut up.

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But you ruined it.
I am alone.

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I'm all alone, Kevin.
I'm.

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I'm literally crying.
Let me let me tell you what I

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thought you were going to say
like a normal person.

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Please do.
I thought you were going to say

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like sacrifices and blood and
like, you know, like tribal

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like.
Like beats, drums and.

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Spirits and drums and like goats
and spells.

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And that's what I thought you
were gonna say.

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Maybe my idea is more accurate.
Well, clearly.

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OK, well, Alicia, you're not
alone.

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In fact, everyone thinks of
voodoo that way.

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I'm crying.
I really am.

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I'm really crying right now.
Well, so my point is, was that

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that's Hollywood films and bad
researched books and these

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tourist triumphs, traps and
these misguided behaviors of

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these people that just want to
take advantage of that is really

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what has driven societal.
Perception of voodoo.

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Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
OK.

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So and like you said, you
thought of the South, you

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thought of new.
Orleans, that is.

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Synonymous with with voodoo.
And it actually is where voodoo

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entered the American realm.
So yeah, that makes sense.

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OK, so voodoo actually
originated from an ancient

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Kingdom called.
The homie and we always

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apologize in advance for when we
pronounce words, because we're

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terrible at it.
But we do try.

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But we do try.
The homie is present did present

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day Nigeria.
Oh, OK.

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Area.
OK.

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And it derives from a fond word
for God or spirit, and it's

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called vodou vo, Dou vodou and.
Other accurate spellings are

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actually vodun, which is vo Dun
and vodone which is vo DOUN.

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But it was never Voodoo VOODOO,
that's never what it was.

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And actually the voodoo is 100%
sensationalist.

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It is.
A really, actually a derogatory

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Western creation Voodoo as we
know Voodoo today.

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Ah, OK, it's all Western like it
has.

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All western built it it.
Doesn't really have.

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Real.
Gotcha.

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It's not the real vodoo.
OK vodoo.

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Yeah, by the people who really
understand what vodoo is and

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what they believe in and.
People we're going to talk about

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in a second just have taken
advantage of people's ignorance

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of it.
So there, so it's it's it's like

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it's a bastardization of.
Yeah.

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Exactly.
Of what, precisely?

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The the root was What the root
it was.

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Yeah, that's It's like going to
church only on Christmas.

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Yeah.
Like you're like, this isn't

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really what it's.
Not what Christianity is

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Christmas.
Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, OK.
Yeah, exactly so.

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Kind of, as I alluded to, Vodou
really has nothing to do with

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all those simplistic false
images that we see and you know,

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sticking pins into dolls and.
Oh yeah.

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Putting axes on things and
creating potions and turning

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innocent people into zombies and
like, that's all, yeah, totally

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fiction, OK?
It's all fiction.

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Yeah, it tends to like err on
the side of negative, doesn't

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it?
Like like it's always like more.

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Yes, turning my enemy, you know?
Yeah, like revenge on my enemy

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or.
Bones and yeah, yeah, like

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hurting people and doing bad
things, right.

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Like try.
Yeah.

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Trying to.
Yeah.

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Trying to have.
Trying to to create something,

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you know, mean or bad.
That's right.

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It's never anything good.
In that exactly, that's exactly

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what voodoo is, but not not
vodoo.

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Vodoo.
Exactly.

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Oh, do.
Exactly.

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It's an actually an organized
form of so vodou is an organized

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form of communal support.
It actually attempts to provide

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meaning to the human experience
in relation to like the

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supernatural.
So it tries to be a positive.

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Connection to the supernatural
as opposed to this negative.

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Hay, yeah.
Hexy thingy?

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Yeah, exactly.
Now, Vodou is essentially A

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monoesthetic religion, which is
actually a religion that, you

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know, focus on one God, you
know, one spirit kind of thing.

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And it's known as Maulisa among
the fawn, which is a fo N, which

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is a group of people.
The Orlon, which is among the

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Yoruba and Bondi or Grand, met
in Heidi in.

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Haiti.
Haiti.

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Excuse me.
OK.

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Hey, remember.
She said Haiti do.

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You remember when I was fucking
crazy in the beginning and I was

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like, I think of, like Haiti and
like New Orleans and like.

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You were getting 2 on the nose.
You're supposed to be like, more

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Hollywood.
Sorry.

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OK, so.
So we have both of these grow or

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these.
Three groups, right.

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Yeah.
The kind of.

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Yes, exactly.
That kind of know this Vodou.

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Yeah.
Right.

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As as truly what it originated
to be.

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And so there's these temples
where Vodou is practiced and the

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really what they actually truly
were are outside of America are

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these really kind of simple
buildings and they're marked

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with images of.
Mary, Jesus and Joseph and

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inside these temples or altars
are usually this.

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The center post and the
structural support of this

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building there is adorned these
two offerings and they're called

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Iowa IWA and it's an offering to
Iowa.

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That's the the point of these
temples is Iowa is like.

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The spirit, it's like the
entity.

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Like the monotheistic?
Yes, exactly.

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Like, yes, exactly.
Like we know God.

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Yeah, yeah.
And so to find these voodoo

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temples, you would look for
these flags on these bamboo

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poles and they would put these
flags out of them and they would

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be in the yards of just like
these normal looking homes.

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You just see this bamboo pole
and you see this flag sticking

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out of this pole.
Well what these did is they

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signaled that in that home was
the residence of a priest or

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priestess.
Oh of Vodou.

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Kind of like when you're going
or you're walking in a different

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country and you see, I don't
know.

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The spinning like white tube
that has white and red and blue.

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Yes, exactly.
You know what that is?

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It's a Barber, right?
Or like a thing of beer.

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It's, yes, a bar or whatever.
Precisely.

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OK, cool.
Yes, that's right.

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And the flag colors would reveal
what kind of will do the priest

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or priest is practiced.
OK.

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So what genre?
Yeah, Genre.

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Yeah.
So kind of like, does they, do

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they specialize in cures or do
they specialize in blessings?

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Gotcha, That kind of thing now.
But traditionally it was just a

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white square flag.
That's really traditionally what

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it was.
And the reason it was white is

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because that represented purity
and goodness and that kind of

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thing.
Yeah.

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And it's much kind of much way
that the green is seen in the as

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a Muslim color.
This white was seen as a Vodou

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color.
Oh cool.

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Can just kind of how they
relate, right.

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So it was a very pure, clean,
wholesome, loving form of

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religion.
Yeah, it's a religion.

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Yeah, totally.
Just like everything, everything

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starts off.
It was like, yeah, yeah, it's

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like, precisely.
The intense, Yeah.

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The.
Intention is always pure, right?

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It's like, and then we're just
trying to understand the world

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around us and the things that we
can't really put our finger on

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we don't get.
And to try to help us live

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through the day or yes.
Whatever.

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And have create community and
you know, connection.

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Yeah, connection.
Similar belief system.

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Yeah, have a place where we can
all meet.

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And then someone's gonna take
it.

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And elsewhere.
Yeah, yeah, but then guess what

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someone's like?
Exactly.

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I think.
I could think.

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I think.
Let me twirl my mustache.

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I think I could make money at
this exact capitalism at its

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best.
Precise, finest.

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So Haitians walk into vodoo
temples for consultations every

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day.
Sure.

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They, they pray and they sing
and they they talk and they

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wish, for lack of a better term,
ask, you know, ask for.

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Yeah.
Or like kind of.

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Yeah, stop.
Yeah.

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And they will generally carry
candles, spices.

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Carvings, powders.
These are kind of offerings of

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such.
Right.

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At the temples.
At the temples, Yeah.

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When you walk in.
So, OK, You're talking about the

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Haitians.
Uh, huh.

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We were in Nigeria.
Yes.

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So the Haitians are going to
Nigeria or the Haitians?

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Have they have these?
Their own versions Their own.

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Versions.
So they're all doing ultimately

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the same types of things, they
just call them different words.

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So they're different.
Yeah.

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So, So it's just a different
flavor of.

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Yeah, different flavor.
OK.

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So the Haitians, VO do you know,
this is kind of more, they're

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more offering based and OK,
yeah, they have their own

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version.
Yes, exactly.

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So possessions.
And I'm not talking about

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possession that I hold in my
hand.

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I'm talking about a physical
possession, like demonic, like

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something else within me.
See.

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You know what?
That's a great way to put it.

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Because where my head goes is a
Christian like The Exorcist,

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Yes.
I think possession, that must be

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the the devil or a demon, right?
But in reality it doesn't have

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to be negative exactly, It could
just be something else taking

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records.
Yes.

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So possession is a very
important part and critical

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dimension of voodoo.
OK, OK.

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I didn't know that.
And really, for anyone who

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doesn't understand it, at its
core it is the one of the least.

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Understood aspects of it for
exactly the reasons that you

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just spoke of.
Because we in the Western world

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have zero connection to that
possession other than the devil.

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Yeah.
That is like the only reason you

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would be possessed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's no.
You're Blair on the bed.

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You're right, right.
Shooting like green peas soup

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out of your mouth, right.
But like, yeah, I you know what?

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I would.
OK, here's a question.

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Who would you like to be
possessed by?

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Like, you get to choose anyone,
anything, whatever.

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Like, who would you be?
Like, yeah, this is cool.

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Or like, I'm curious or
whatever.

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Anything what does that see and
that what does it means like you

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would?
What's like maybe what kind of

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entity or like?
What would happen if her entity

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it possessed you like would?
Maybe you're like, I don't know.

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I want to see, I'd like to see
how Elvis would, you know, I

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don't know.
I don't know where the fuck

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Elvis came from and that, but
whatever he did, but I I mean,

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like, you know, something like
that, like.

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Or like maybe like I'd I'd
wonder what my cat like for me.

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I have a cat, Oliver.
It would probably just sleep.

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It would.
Totally be.

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It's so funny you say that, cuz
if I it would be I immediately

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go to animals.
Like I don't think can't think

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of a single person that I would
want to be but like animals,

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like I would want to connect at
that level with animals.

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I could, yeah.
I think I'd probably trust.

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My cat.
A little bit more than I trust

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humans.
OK, OK, but let's flip the the

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script.
Who would you want to possess?

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Let's say you could possess
someone, anyone.

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Like there's no one that you
would be like I'd.

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I'd be curious about the way
they live their life Or like,

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oh, yeah, like it can be a
person.

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Yeah.
So you're the entity possessing.

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Who would you be?
Warren Buffett.

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Warren Buffett.
Yeah, he's such a fucking boring

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ass motherfucker.
Totally.

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But he's so smart.
Yes, he is.

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Yeah, I don't think he has a fun
life.

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Like I know he goes like to
Dunkin Donut and he gets a

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doughnut and a coffee and he
reads a paper and he does.

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And he goes to like a steakhouse
in Nebraska.

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Right.
And like, right lives in a

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little one bedroom house and
yeah, yeah, but I mean just.

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I think the you don't.
Experience.

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Like I want to.
Probe his his brain.

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I want to probe your brain,
Warren Buffett.

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Yeah, I would just like to
experience the Jeep.

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That genius, OK?
Not the life, that just the

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genius.
See, that's beautiful.

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I would want to possess like
someone who's fucking hot.

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Like a really hot person.
I don't care if it's a man or a

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woman, I just want to be them.
Like live.

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Their life for a.
Day hot and rich and like just

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don't give a that.
Would be fun.

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I'm not.
It's so.

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Fun like I would because look
like and young, so I don't have

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any, like, ailments.
Yeah, like all that, yeah.

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And then I'd probably like, send
money or like take a bunch of

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cash out or something and like,
send it to myself.

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That's hilarious.
So when I go back into my body,

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I could retrieve it.
My God, you're hilarious.

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So I'd do something like that,
but I would just, yeah, I would.

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I'd fucking live it up like
maybe I'd be like, some like.

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Douche bag dude with like a six
pack like fucking hot as shit

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walking down the beach and be
like ba ba ba ba ladies oh.

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My God.
Ba, ba, ba, man, I'm like, just

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no, everyone's like, you're hot
and I'd be like, thanks.

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Oh my God, that's.
Right.

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You would not do that.
You're so, so pure and pure and

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heart.
I'm more like, I'm more like

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that.
Superficial.

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Like I'm like super, the
superficial, like like like New

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Orleans voodoo versus the vodoo,
The Haiti, the Haitians vodoo.

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That's like you and I, there's
you're either one or the other.

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There's no in between.
That's awesome.

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That's fun.
Yeah, I'd do it.

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So then you say, OK, well, like
what is the purpose of

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possession like?
Why?

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Right, Yeah.
Why would you?

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Why would you do that?
Yeah, cuz you're an entity,

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right?
Yeah.

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So you don't need.
So both the Iowa which is the

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Spirit.
Yes.

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And the community are affirmed,
that is the purpose.

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Of possession.
And if you look up the word

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affirmed in the dictionary
because I had to do that because

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I go, well, what does that
really mean If you feel like

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you're affirmed, right?
Well, the second definition

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other than, so the first
definition is something that is

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a state of fact.
I'm like, no, that's not what I

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meant.
The second definition is offer

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someone emotional support or
encouragement.

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Oh.
That.

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Affirmation affirmed.
That's the.

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Affirmation.
So that's the point of the

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possession.
OK, that makes it way less

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scary.
Exactly, exactly.

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Wow.
So the participants transcend

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their material.
Material corporal body, Yeah,

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their Yeah, exactly.
Material world.

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Yes, yes, by coming, by becoming
spirits.

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And then the spirits renew their
vigor by what they call dancing

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and feasting with the schwall,
and that translates to horses.

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And so they believe that during
possession that the Iowa rides

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the person like a cavalier rides
a horse.

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That's the.
That's the benefit.

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That's the benefit of the Iowa
to rejuvenate.

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Wow.
And equally as important,

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possession is a time when the
Iowa communicate in a tangible

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way with the people that are
receiving answers to pressing

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questions.
So they the the person gets

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answers from the Iowa and the
Iowa gets to rejuvenate through

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the energy of the person.
So for the Iowa it is a spa day.

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Yeah, exactly.
It's the recharge day.

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Yeah, where you're just getting,
you're getting everything you

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need you know.
And then for the person, OK, so

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they have the answers.
So like once they're possessed,

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they're getting, they already
know what the answers are.

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Are they aware when these.
Answers come.

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So I guess when they go into it,
they.

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Go into it with questions,
right?

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They come out of it with.
Answers OK, then what about are

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they are they able to like when
they're do they are they in a

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trance or are they like they're
gone?

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Like they don't know what's
happening to their body or they

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like watching their body?
Are they at all, like, aware of

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what's going on when?
They're being possessed.

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That's actually a good question.
Like I What is the actual

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experience?
Yeah.

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That I do not know the answer
to.

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And I'm sure it's probably
different for everyone, right?

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And that very well could be.
Yeah, that's right.

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That's right.
That's really interesting.

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I never thought of possession as
being.

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A positive thing.
A.

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Positive we have.
So bastards, The thing.

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Precisely.
That's exactly right.

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Wow.
So I think I mentioned this.

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Voodoo translates to God or
spirit.

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That's what the word translates
to.

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So what's interesting here is
that when the slaves started

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coming to America.
Yep.

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They were coming from Haiti and
Africa and.

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They were being stolen.
Stolen as pieces of as goods,

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yes.
Could bring nothing with them,

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right?
Because they were property.

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Right.
No, They were oftentimes just

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ran down by people and like
literally like like you were

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running for your life, you were
fleeing to try to be like.

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Because people would rat them
out.

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All these people live here like
they're pretty strong, like, and

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then they get paid by these.
Sure, you know smugglers.

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Sure.
So yeah, no, the last thing that

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they're they're physically
running from, no one was like

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willingly saying, oh, America,
I've heard of that place like.

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Yeah.
Yeah, like I want to try a new

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world.
No one said that.

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It's fucked up.
Yeah, they didn't have anything

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on them.
So in the early 1800s, New

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Orleans was getting really
populated with.

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Slaves from Central Africa and
the and the Caribbean.

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And because they were pieces of
property, like I said, they

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couldn't bring anything with
them.

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But what they did bring with
them were their values and

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beliefs in the traditions and
the relation religious practices

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which was voodoo.
Yeah.

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That's what they knew.
So then you say.

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Well then how was voodoo?
Created, right.

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What was that transition?
Yeah.

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And that answer is starts and
ends with Marie Laveau.

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That bitch.
That bitch.

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You heard of her?
Oh, she's on our list.

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She is on our list, yeah.
Yes, yes.

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So we're gonna talk about her
for a minute.

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OK, people, get a drink.
Yeah, the next minutes are gonna

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be a little.
She's a rough.

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She's a.
Real piece of fucking.

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She's a piece.
She's a piece.

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She's a definite piece, yeah.
Yeah, she was.

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The kind word would be complex.
I definitely thought you were

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gonna go with a different.
C word did you?

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You fooled me.
Which Marie Laveau do you ask?

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Oh, did I not mention that there
were five?

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Wait, there were five of them.
Wait, we're gonna talk about the

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first one?
OK.

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Did I know that?
No, I don't know if I didn't.

460
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I bet you will.
When I tell you why there was

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five you, I bet you'll know.
So Marie Laveau, for those who

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might not know, was a dedicated
practitioner of voodoo and was

463
00:28:41,170 --> 00:28:45,810
also a prominent female
religious leader and community

464
00:28:45,810 --> 00:28:53,530
activist, among many other
things, now historical records

465
00:28:53,530 --> 00:28:57,560
state.
That Marie Catherine Leveaux was

466
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,280
born a free woman of color in
New Orleans in today's French

467
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,440
Quarter in Louisiana, and she
was born on September 10th,

468
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:15,120
1801.
Her mother, Marguerite de

469
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Ecantel, was a free woman of
color of Africa, European and

470
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,820
Native American ancestry.
Now, because Leveau's mother was

471
00:29:25,820 --> 00:29:30,940
not married at the time of her
birth, her father wasn't

472
00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:35,780
identified on her 1801 baptismal
record.

473
00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:38,980
Now, a possible candidate is a
man by the name of Charles

474
00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:43,380
Leveau.
He's the son of Charles Leveau

475
00:29:43,580 --> 00:29:50,380
Chardoo, and he is a white
Louisiana Creole and politician.

476
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:54,890
Now other historians, they claim
that Leveau's father was this

477
00:29:54,890 --> 00:30:00,490
freeman of color named Charles
Leveau, and much of the

478
00:30:00,490 --> 00:30:05,090
confusion is due to inconsistent
spellings of all of these

479
00:30:05,090 --> 00:30:08,170
different names and different
pronunciations of these names

480
00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:09,570
and.
Sure, yeah.

481
00:30:09,730 --> 00:30:13,610
And we're going to find, you're
going to see in a lot of the

482
00:30:13,610 --> 00:30:17,610
things that we talk about today,
nothing is.

483
00:30:18,170 --> 00:30:23,850
Nothing in her life is.
Provable, for lack of a better

484
00:30:23,850 --> 00:30:27,770
term, like nothing is like, it's
just all like.

485
00:30:28,050 --> 00:30:29,330
Lore.
Lore.

486
00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:34,050
Or cold frickin life.
Right, which would be helpful.

487
00:30:34,410 --> 00:30:35,930
Yeah.
At that time.

488
00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:41,290
Yeah, so Lavos started this
beauty parlor where she was a

489
00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:48,930
hairdresser.
And sure, she did hairdressing

490
00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:55,220
for.
The poor and you know, the lower

491
00:30:55,220 --> 00:31:00,300
class people.
But she also did it for very

492
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,740
wealthy families of New Orleans,
right?

493
00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:09,060
And she was very good at
obtaining inside information on

494
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:11,420
her rich clients at that beauty
parlor.

495
00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:14,460
We all know how beauty parlors
are.

496
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,240
Oh my God.
Lady gossip.

497
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,480
So much drama.
Lady drama and lady gossip.

498
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,640
But also male drama.
Yeah, drama's drama drama's

499
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,680
drama.
But like at that.

500
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,160
But back then.
Yeah, for sure.

501
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,720
No.
No.

502
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,880
Yeah.
And so then or she would get

503
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,280
them from their servants, these
rich women's servants, cuz she

504
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,400
would use their hair too.
You know what?

505
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,000
That's where you get the real
fucking tea, yes?

506
00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:44,370
And she would give them Steve
Discounts to get them in her

507
00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:49,130
chair.
And she would sometimes she

508
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:52,050
would even like they would they.
They said it.

509
00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:53,650
I mean, I'm quoting, I'm air
quoting.

510
00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:57,370
If you're not watching cured
mysterious ailments.

511
00:31:57,690 --> 00:32:02,130
And that's so then she would
convince these people that she

512
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:03,610
knows she's like some.
Yeah.

513
00:32:03,850 --> 00:32:07,290
And so then she would get trust.
Sure, yeah.

514
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,600
And then she could get all kinds
of info.

515
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,280
Oh, of course, yeah.
Oh yeah.

516
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,280
Oh, oh, you have a little tickle
in your throat.

517
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,480
Uh huh.
Yeah.

518
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Try this magic.
Here, try this magic elixir.

519
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,560
Here it's part.
It's part.

520
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,840
I don't know what is that
arsenic, but it's OK.

521
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,800
You'll be feeling great in no
time.

522
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,280
Great.
Tell me all your secrets.

523
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:37,540
Just a few minutes.
So she used this information

524
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:43,540
during her voodoo consultations
with wealthy women to obviously

525
00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:45,820
enhance her image as a
clairvoyant.

526
00:32:46,180 --> 00:32:54,140
So because she would say
whatever XYZ husband named blah

527
00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:59,300
blah blah, which she only knew
because she just did their helps

528
00:32:59,380 --> 00:33:01,260
hair two days ago.
Right.

529
00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:04,050
She knows the town.
It's not like the towns are like

530
00:33:04,090 --> 00:33:07,770
as big as they are today.
Also, I'm sure.

531
00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:10,330
OK, think about it.
What do you want to do?

532
00:33:10,330 --> 00:33:12,810
Stand on your, like on your feet
all day?

533
00:33:13,010 --> 00:33:16,810
You know, doing people's hair?
Like that's hard bar like really

534
00:33:16,810 --> 00:33:21,410
pretty hard work?
Or do you want to make twice the

535
00:33:21,410 --> 00:33:25,210
amount of money and just use
insider knowledge and

536
00:33:25,210 --> 00:33:28,090
information?
And she was probably really good

537
00:33:28,090 --> 00:33:29,690
at talking to people and reading
them.

538
00:33:29,690 --> 00:33:31,720
Hills.
Yes.

539
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,480
Which one are you gonna pick?
I'm gonna pick the psychic every

540
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,840
time.
Der Exactly.

541
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,760
That's exactly what it was
exactly.

542
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,920
And so she made the money by
selling her clients also what

543
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,720
they were called.
It's called a greegree.

544
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,240
I think it's gree GRISGRIS is
gree.

545
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,800
Gree I think is how you
pronounce it.

546
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,760
And these are they're charms and
if you really what they.

547
00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:02,630
Ultimately were in the true
sense of the form, are these

548
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:09,110
little sacks that you would put
little charms and things inside,

549
00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:11,030
seal it up and wear it around
your neck?

550
00:34:12,909 --> 00:34:15,429
As like a protective.
Yes, exactly.

551
00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:18,389
Or a thing that will make your
wishes come true.

552
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:21,670
Or you know, whatever, right?
We still have those today, don't

553
00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:22,590
we?
Still today.

554
00:34:23,110 --> 00:34:30,060
Still today.
So in her role as a a voodoo

555
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:34,179
practitioner, customers would
come to the VO for help with

556
00:34:34,179 --> 00:34:40,139
like family disputes, health
issues, finances, that I mean.

557
00:34:40,219 --> 00:34:42,260
Yeah, you name it you.
Name it exactly.

558
00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:45,739
She she was the woman who was
like, Oh yeah, word of mouth

559
00:34:45,739 --> 00:34:48,940
spreads pretty damn quick at A
at a beauty salon.

560
00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:50,460
That's right.
She's trying to get no.

561
00:34:50,460 --> 00:34:53,820
Shit that you don't think you
should know, then you were like.

562
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,580
It, yeah, She's already proven.
She's been able to prove the

563
00:34:57,580 --> 00:34:59,700
fact that she knows what she's
talking about.

564
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,660
That's right.
And people are like, Oh my God,

565
00:35:03,220 --> 00:35:06,340
you have the answers to life.
I've been looking for the

566
00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:08,660
answers.
I've talked in other episodes

567
00:35:08,660 --> 00:35:11,660
before.
If you want to believe

568
00:35:11,660 --> 00:35:15,180
something, yeah, then even the
littlest thing will make you

569
00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:17,940
believe.
Of it's confirmation bias, yes.

570
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:20,780
Yeah, precisely.
So she had him.

571
00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:22,020
She had him.
I mean.

572
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,800
You have to.
You have to appreciate it.

573
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,800
She yeah, exactly.
Exactly.

574
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Can't blame her.
Can't blame her.

575
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,600
So she would do these things at
her own home.

576
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,320
She would go to this thing
called Go Square.

577
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,640
She would go to lake.
Was it punch a train, Punch a

578
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,000
train, I think is the lake
that's over there.

579
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,840
She would do it over there.
And she maintained her authority

580
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,440
throughout her life and her
leadership.

581
00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:57,300
There was one attempt that
someone tried to challenge her

582
00:35:58,940 --> 00:36:01,020
status, for lack of a better
term, as a.

583
00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:03,420
Voodoo preset.
Yes, in 1850s.

584
00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:06,220
Some other Pres system.
Like, hey, bitch, you've got,

585
00:36:06,220 --> 00:36:09,700
like you got a maid, you know in
her mind she's thinking this

586
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:10,980
right?
And like you've got these

587
00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:13,300
suckers.
So I'm going to challenge you

588
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,220
and I'm going to like prove
whatever right, like you are

589
00:36:16,220 --> 00:36:18,180
not.
Throwing down the gauntlet.

590
00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:21,340
Yes, you fraud, yes.
Yes.

591
00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:23,900
Failed.
I mean she cuz she just had

592
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:27,300
some.
She knew people just loved her.

593
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:30,980
Yeah, they loved her.
No, it's kind of like, I hate to

594
00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:33,060
say the word the please the T
word.

595
00:36:33,380 --> 00:36:37,620
People love him.
He can do no wrong, Do no wrong.

596
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:41,180
Like Teflon.
Yeah, Teflon.

597
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:45,100
So it's the same kind of concept
like once you've got someone,

598
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,190
it's like you could.
Do no wrong.

599
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:49,310
Yes, right.
Yeah, they they they put on a

600
00:36:49,310 --> 00:36:50,910
pedestal.
They believe anything that

601
00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:52,790
she's.
But she also was proving for a

602
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:55,750
long time that she did know what
she was talking about.

603
00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:58,270
Well, yes, she did know.
She did her work.

604
00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:02,110
Yeah, she did.
She she had ears and eyes

605
00:37:02,110 --> 00:37:04,630
probably all throughout.
She probably paid people off in

606
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:07,230
order to do it, of course.
So it's not like she like she

607
00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:10,430
didn't actually earn that, like
she did earn that title.

608
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:13,750
She did.
She did it so.

609
00:37:18,590 --> 00:37:22,870
So what happened when she when
the woman challenged her, she

610
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:23,950
was just like nothing.
Nothing.

611
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:27,790
Yeah, nothing ultimately
happened like she just because

612
00:37:27,830 --> 00:37:33,510
of because people knew Marie so
much and trusted her so much

613
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:34,830
that that was just kind of a non
event.

614
00:37:35,230 --> 00:37:39,830
They're like please girl.
Good girl, Good girl.

615
00:37:39,830 --> 00:37:40,950
Good girl, good girl.
I need to.

616
00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:42,630
Have a little sound bite that
does.

617
00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:45,550
Yeah.
Yeah, it did.

618
00:37:45,550 --> 00:37:50,870
Nowhere.
Her daughter Marie Laveau.

619
00:37:51,870 --> 00:37:57,510
Numa dos.
She was much more theatrical

620
00:37:58,310 --> 00:38:02,030
when when her mom died, she
just, she just took the reins

621
00:38:02,030 --> 00:38:05,990
and she just made it like.
Drama like.

622
00:38:06,510 --> 00:38:09,950
Our kind of girl.
Yes, it's Fiatos girl.

623
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:13,390
Yeah, my kind of.
Girl thirsty and she's throwing

624
00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:17,590
smoke bombs.
Like I feel the power within me.

625
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:25,030
Judy started to have an affair
on her husband last summer and

626
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:28,230
it's really Charlie's baby.
Whatever.

627
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:30,430
Right, Right.
She just knew all the fucking

628
00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:33,630
she and gossip, right?
I think she's probably, yeah.

629
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:36,270
Imagine start using like little
poppers.

630
00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:40,990
Yeah, like smoke, just the whole
wall of smoke comes up.

631
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:45,110
She has like a a hat and she's
pulling like rabbits and.

632
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:47,870
Yeah, she was getting.
Theatrical girl.

633
00:38:47,950 --> 00:38:49,830
I love it.
Love it.

634
00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:52,670
So there is very, like I said
before, very little that can be

635
00:38:52,670 --> 00:38:57,710
factually substantiated with
like you go through records and

636
00:38:57,710 --> 00:39:01,550
like there's literally nothing
that can be substantiated like

637
00:39:01,830 --> 00:39:04,870
nothing.
But scholars think that she was

638
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:11,990
actually a devote Catholic, and
by combining Catholicism with

639
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:17,390
Vodou, she made something that
was much more palatable.

640
00:39:18,430 --> 00:39:22,710
And so people could kind of just
a little bit relate to it, but

641
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:27,350
it was still very mysterious and
and odd, and so it became very

642
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:29,870
sellable.
Right.

643
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:34,220
And so.
Some what was other than the

644
00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:36,220
other thing that was very
interesting is you would read

645
00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:40,580
things and that her even her
Marie's character was a

646
00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:44,620
controversy like some people
would go Oh yes, she's like this

647
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:48,940
awful and despicable woman and
ruthless and awful And then

648
00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:51,020
other people would go Oh no, no,
no.

649
00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:55,980
She was so marvelous and she was
a servant of the people and.

650
00:39:56,540 --> 00:39:58,820
Like like her whole life was a
conflict.

651
00:39:58,980 --> 00:40:01,100
Like no matter what you read,
like you could find the

652
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,380
opposite.
Of everything.

653
00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:05,060
Because when you started talking
about her, I'm like, she's a

654
00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:05,980
bitch.
Uh, huh.

655
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:09,380
But that's like all like that.
She was really crass and mean

656
00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:12,780
and like, yeah, torture people
and like, yes, really, really

657
00:40:12,780 --> 00:40:14,660
bad.
But you're talking about someone

658
00:40:14,660 --> 00:40:16,790
who?
Like honestly, like the way that

659
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:19,190
you're talking about her, I'm
I'm more apt to believe that

660
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:22,230
she's a normal fucking person
who probably had a lot of

661
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:23,910
enemies, cuz she's.
Trying to take advantage of

662
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:25,830
people.
Well, of course.

663
00:40:26,110 --> 00:40:28,350
But she also was making, like,
think about it.

664
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:34,430
She was a black woman in New
Orleans in the 1800s, you know?

665
00:40:34,830 --> 00:40:36,950
A free woman doing what she
could to survive.

666
00:40:37,070 --> 00:40:41,100
Making money, yeah.
Like God forbid something like

667
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:43,860
that happens like.
From wealthy white women.

668
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:48,460
From from taking these you know
the money of these like wealthy

669
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:53,580
families and making a name for
herself and everyone's to Oh my

670
00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:55,740
gosh yeah.
Well, Murray told me that yeah,

671
00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:58,260
if we want to have a baby we
have to do, you know, we have to

672
00:40:58,260 --> 00:41:01,460
do this and like John's like,
are you fucking kidding me?

673
00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:03,650
Like.
You spent how much money with

674
00:41:03,690 --> 00:41:06,330
with Murray?
Like, are you like, of course

675
00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:08,170
she's going to have enemies.
She's 6.

676
00:41:08,170 --> 00:41:11,290
She's a successful woman.
She's a successful black woman.

677
00:41:11,330 --> 00:41:14,010
Yeah, precisely.
She can only have enemies.

678
00:41:14,050 --> 00:41:16,450
Yeah, I mean, that's fucking
awful, but especially then.

679
00:41:18,490 --> 00:41:21,090
So an example of her being a
selfless servant.

680
00:41:22,330 --> 00:41:29,610
So in 1952 it's reported that
she was people had observed.

681
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,760
Her paying regular visits to
these two men that were in jail

682
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:46,720
and at the at the time
executions were public and at

683
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:52,280
the at this moment of this
execution it is and I am air

684
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,600
quoting and documented because
you know things conflict in her

685
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,460
life that the sky gets kind of.
Dark and mysterious.

686
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:04,860
And when they're about ready,
when they hang these two men,

687
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:10,420
the both of their ropes slip and
they don't die and as a result

688
00:42:12,020 --> 00:42:17,260
aren't executed.
And and from that point it is

689
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:22,660
written that that event is what
started the Louisiana ban on

690
00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:25,020
public executions.
What?

691
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,810
Right.
So.

692
00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:34,530
She had been visiting these guys
and these do we know what these

693
00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:38,650
guys were in?
I do not know the circumstances

694
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:44,530
of their execution.
The I mean, I don't know, not

695
00:42:44,530 --> 00:42:47,570
playing devil's advocate, but
like the fact that we don't know

696
00:42:47,570 --> 00:42:51,690
the circumstances says it was
probably not a heinous crime.

697
00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:53,610
It was they were going to mean
executed.

698
00:42:54,270 --> 00:42:57,110
Yeah, but what if they're just
black men that were, you know,

699
00:42:57,110 --> 00:43:00,990
went into the wrong shot fair or
like, looked at someone, you

700
00:43:00,990 --> 00:43:03,550
know, across the street and Oh
yes, so the.

701
00:43:03,550 --> 00:43:05,630
White woman goes Oh yeah,
they're looking at me, bro.

702
00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:07,910
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, they were undressing you

703
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:10,550
with with their eyes.
It's like bitch, no one wants to

704
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:12,030
undress you with with their
eyes.

705
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:17,830
OK, yeah, you are gross.
But like could be something like

706
00:43:17,830 --> 00:43:19,070
that.
So they were like being

707
00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:20,190
unjustly.
Right.

708
00:43:20,190 --> 00:43:22,430
So then you go.
OK, well, she was a servant of

709
00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:23,750
the woman.
Yeah, she's saving someone

710
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:27,430
innocent.
And then, but also like, why was

711
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:29,110
she there?
What was she doing?

712
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:34,230
Was she giving them pointers?
Are there ways that you can?

713
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:39,830
Slip it.
Yeah, well like slip or like

714
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:42,270
like help do.
Something new, Yeah.

715
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:44,750
Like, maybe she knew something
about.

716
00:43:44,910 --> 00:43:47,790
Or maybe she slipped something
to a guard.

717
00:43:47,790 --> 00:43:50,940
A guard or something.
You know and was trying to help

718
00:43:50,940 --> 00:43:52,220
that.
Yeah, make it loose or.

719
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:53,620
Yeah.
Who knows?

720
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:57,740
I mean, but they first, but.
Either way, people were like

721
00:43:57,820 --> 00:44:00,220
just more proof.
Yeah, more proof.

722
00:44:00,220 --> 00:44:03,180
And also maybe there's some.
I can't.

723
00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:06,140
I can.
Marie was fucking smart, OK?

724
00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:08,540
Was this Marie Two or Marie One?
This.

725
00:44:08,540 --> 00:44:10,180
Was Marie one?
This was Marie one.

726
00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:13,060
Yeah.
OK Marie One was like super well

727
00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:15,060
respected.
People liked her.

728
00:44:15,420 --> 00:44:19,790
She she probably just.
It was a good confidant,

729
00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:21,110
especially for, like, these
women.

730
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:23,710
Show how to talk to.
You know how to talk to people

731
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:26,510
on how to listen, because that's
really what a psychics.

732
00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:27,750
That's right.
That's right.

733
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:30,910
They listen and they observant.
Yes, exactly.

734
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:35,230
So you know, you have her and
she's probably subtly like.

735
00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:37,890
Saying, oh, this probably isn't
right, this isn't right.

736
00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:40,810
And so, like, she's influencing.
That's that's The thing is like,

737
00:44:40,810 --> 00:44:44,290
she has so much influence over
this fucking town and, like over

738
00:44:44,290 --> 00:44:48,170
these people that they're like,
oh, public executions are pretty

739
00:44:48,170 --> 00:44:48,970
wrong.
Yeah.

740
00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:51,370
Like, yeah, I mean, Marie was
the one who planted that fucking

741
00:44:51,370 --> 00:44:54,610
idea into your head, you know,
would not surprise me.

742
00:44:55,330 --> 00:44:57,290
Like I don't think that's a
coincidence.

743
00:44:57,290 --> 00:45:00,570
Like, she seems like, I don't
know, maybe I'm a Marie fan now.

744
00:45:00,770 --> 00:45:03,130
I don't know, right.
Well, that's because that's kind

745
00:45:03,130 --> 00:45:10,970
of supports the point of.
There are two absolute sides of

746
00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:12,850
the coin with her.
Yes, yeah.

747
00:45:13,450 --> 00:45:17,770
And there is not.
There is nothing in the other

748
00:45:17,810 --> 00:45:20,930
caves that proves it either way.
Yeah.

749
00:45:21,650 --> 00:45:22,930
That's what's so.
Yeah.

750
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:25,810
Jacked.
Actually, of course, yeah.

751
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:30,210
Just like people like none of us
are, like, wholly innocent or

752
00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:35,530
holy guilty.
So in her whole her old age, she

753
00:45:35,530 --> 00:45:39,490
was too old to practice and so
her daughter's, you know, would

754
00:45:39,490 --> 00:45:42,210
take over her identity to
continue the dynasty.

755
00:45:42,210 --> 00:45:46,770
Hence the Five Murray's.
Did she have five dot or four

756
00:45:46,770 --> 00:45:52,170
daughters?
Well, that's the other thing.

757
00:45:52,170 --> 00:45:56,450
I didn't go much into it, but
when you read it like documents

758
00:45:56,450 --> 00:45:58,690
said that she had something
like.

759
00:46:00,410 --> 00:46:02,970
God, I don't want to make this
up, but I am going to make it up

760
00:46:02,970 --> 00:46:04,170
because I can't remember the
number.

761
00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:06,930
There's like 13 kids.
Sure.

762
00:46:07,370 --> 00:46:11,570
But there was like only
technically proof of like, I

763
00:46:11,570 --> 00:46:14,410
don't know, say 87.
Sure.

764
00:46:14,410 --> 00:46:22,490
It was all jacked up.
And that was the the tradition

765
00:46:22,490 --> 00:46:26,850
then was that your daughters
would be named, I guess, after

766
00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:30,120
your mother.
Something about that.

767
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,840
And then or Marie.
I can't, I can't honestly

768
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,120
remember it exactly, but that's
why she ended up having like

769
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,760
three daughters named Marie.
Oh, because like, you had to.

770
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,680
Like that was the thing.
That you did.

771
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

772
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,240
And then of course, they saw
what a meal ticket she had.

773
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:53,040
And so they're like, bitch.
We have a family business.

774
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,280
I'm gonna keep going, girl.
Yeah.

775
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,000
Yes.
I don't have to do any other

776
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,880
work.
The the name is already there.

777
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,360
Yeah.
Oh, are you the original?

778
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,680
Are you the original?
This is the original.

779
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,160
Oh, this is the House of the.
Original I'm Marie.

780
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,480
Yes, I'm Marie Laveau.
Oh, you're Marie Laveau.

781
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,320
You're the Marie.
Yes, I am the Marie Laveau.

782
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,880
One of three.
She don't say that.

783
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,080
So Laveau's name in her history,
they've.

784
00:47:25,780 --> 00:47:28,340
Obviously been, like you said
earlier, been completely

785
00:47:28,340 --> 00:47:35,100
surrounded by legend and lore.
Now, she's generally believed to

786
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:44,420
have been buried in Plot 347 in
the Glopian family crypt in the

787
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:48,140
St.
Louis Cemetery #1 New Orleans,

788
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:54,700
but even that was distributed
been has been disputed.

789
00:47:57,030 --> 00:48:01,110
And that was kind of recently
disputed by a guy named Robert

790
00:48:01,470 --> 00:48:03,790
Talent.
And he's a journalist and he, he

791
00:48:03,790 --> 00:48:07,750
used her character in one of his
novels.

792
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:13,190
And you know, those geeks, they
geek out and they research the

793
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:15,230
shit out of shit and they're
like, that's not true.

794
00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:16,190
You know what I mean?
So.

795
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:20,950
Oh, use Actually you it was St.
the Why no St.

796
00:48:21,110 --> 00:48:23,550
Louis.
It's like shut up.

797
00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:30,650
So yeah, so again, just another
element in her life that has is

798
00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:31,290
just.
She was.

799
00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:34,010
She was a like, bigger than life
and like.

800
00:48:34,010 --> 00:48:37,530
Bigger yes than.
Life only way to survive for a

801
00:48:37,530 --> 00:48:42,010
long time is to be a lore or a
legend, to not have everything

802
00:48:42,010 --> 00:48:45,090
documented correctly but.
You couldn't be a survived very

803
00:48:45,090 --> 00:48:47,970
well as a black woman in 1800s.
Fuck no.

804
00:48:47,970 --> 00:48:49,130
Yeah.
You want to keep people

805
00:48:49,130 --> 00:48:52,170
guessing.
It's it's what is that saying

806
00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:56,470
like?
Like while you're drinking or

807
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:59,550
something like don't like, don't
talk a lot.

808
00:49:00,910 --> 00:49:02,790
It's fucking humming like, well,
I can't think of that.

809
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:06,390
I cannot think of it.
But it's basically like saying

810
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:08,630
like, you know, kind of don't
show your hand.

811
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:12,270
Like the more you talk, the
easier it is for people to see

812
00:49:12,270 --> 00:49:15,190
how fucking stupid you are.
So it's like the same thing with

813
00:49:16,030 --> 00:49:20,110
with Marie Laveau, it's like.
The moment people start to see

814
00:49:20,110 --> 00:49:22,590
or like know a little bit too
much about her, then they'd be

815
00:49:22,590 --> 00:49:25,430
able to tell her tells.
Or like, be able to tell like,

816
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:29,710
oh, she's kind of full of shit,
like the true, like less the

817
00:49:29,710 --> 00:49:32,230
better true.
Or the more conflictive the

818
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:33,550
better?
Right, right.

819
00:49:33,550 --> 00:49:35,550
Because then you keep, keep,
keep, prove anything.

820
00:49:35,550 --> 00:49:38,430
Yes, exactly.
And you don't want things to be

821
00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:41,070
provable.
No, that's the key to her

822
00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:42,790
success.
Yeah, absolutely do.

823
00:49:45,230 --> 00:49:46,550
You want to know how to get a
wish?

824
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:49,270
Granted to this very day by
Marie Lavelle.

825
00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:52,070
Oh my God.
Oh yes, of course I do.

826
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:53,630
There's a way?
Really.

827
00:49:53,630 --> 00:49:55,470
Uh huh.
People say it still happens.

828
00:49:55,550 --> 00:49:55,750
Huh.
Does.

829
00:49:56,190 --> 00:50:01,230
OK, how does it happen?
So this is a decades old

830
00:50:01,230 --> 00:50:02,510
tradition.
OK.

831
00:50:04,350 --> 00:50:09,710
So you're gonna go to a grave
and you're gonna draw an X on

832
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:13,280
the tomb.
Then you're going to turn around

833
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,440
three times.
Does this sound like something

834
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,960
familiar?
Yeah, it definitely does.

835
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,400
Then you knock on the tomb and
you yell out your wish.

836
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,440
Oh my God.
If the wish is granted, the wish

837
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,120
becomes granted whenever.
Right.

838
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,120
You have to go back to the
grave.

839
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,140
You have to put a circle.
Around your ex that you put on,

840
00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:44,300
do you have to remember stone?
You have to remember your ex and

841
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:45,540
you have to leave her an
offering.

842
00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:50,580
And if you don't, there will be
consequences.

843
00:50:51,020 --> 00:50:54,380
Ooh, you're doomed.
It's like that genie, like the

844
00:50:54,380 --> 00:50:59,860
double sided, like wish with
like genies and stuff.

845
00:51:00,260 --> 00:51:05,020
How it's like I want, you know,
a car, you know, I want the best

846
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:07,640
car and it's like.
It's like awful.

847
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,200
It's such a lobby.
It doesn't work well or

848
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,320
whatever, but it's like the best
looking car.

849
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:17,080
So it's like if you don't follow
through with the offering and

850
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,360
like whatever, then what?
Like the your wish becomes your

851
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,680
nightmare.
I guess it.

852
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,680
Something.
You don't want to find out,

853
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,400
Yeah, that's the point.
It's like with any lore or.

854
00:51:31,390 --> 00:51:34,550
Cult or whatever.
Like it's the unknown that

855
00:51:34,550 --> 00:51:35,750
scares you.
Oh.

856
00:51:35,870 --> 00:51:38,910
Yeah, and that you don't want to
fall, you don't want to know.

857
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:42,070
It's the it's that battle within
your brain.

858
00:51:42,430 --> 00:51:43,590
Yeah.
It's like what you can.

859
00:51:43,590 --> 00:51:45,310
Come up.
That's what keeps you.

860
00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:48,510
Yes, going.
That's crazy.

861
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:50,310
Would you do that?
Would you go to her?

862
00:51:50,590 --> 00:51:53,310
Hell, hell no.
I mean, I would go just to see

863
00:51:53,310 --> 00:51:55,350
all the exes, but you wouldn't
be fascinating.

864
00:51:55,350 --> 00:51:57,700
I wouldn't freaking.
You wouldn't do it.

865
00:51:57,700 --> 00:51:59,500
You wouldn't say cock a doodle
Doo or whatever.

866
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:03,260
Because here's the thing.
What I don't want to participate

867
00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:05,020
in something that could be real.
Like.

868
00:52:05,020 --> 00:52:06,900
I don't think it's real.
But what if it is?

869
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:08,220
Like, I don't want any part of
that.

870
00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:09,980
Like, I don't even want to be
connected.

871
00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:13,340
Like, am I committed into you?
You know what I mean?

872
00:52:13,340 --> 00:52:14,420
Like.
No.

873
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:16,660
OK, Gotcha.
And Hollywood's got me fucked up

874
00:52:16,660 --> 00:52:18,020
too.
Because then you see.

875
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,680
Like, oh, once you get in bed
with the devil then.

876
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,480
Oh, so that's where it's coming
from.

877
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,560
Not like like I don't like.
I would want to owe anything.

878
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,200
Any.
Anyone.

879
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,480
Anything.
You don't want the strings

880
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,880
attached?
No string.

881
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,000
Exactly.
Gotcha.

882
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,360
Is it worth it?
It's not worth the string.

883
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,480
It's never worth it.
No.

884
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Never worth ever.
No, it's never worth it.

885
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,680
Have you ever seen a voodoo
doll?

886
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,240
Yes.
Have you ever held a voodoo

887
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:40,960
doll?
Yes.

888
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,360
Have you ever used a voodoo
doll?

889
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,380
No.
Maybe I have.

890
00:52:45,380 --> 00:52:46,980
Have you ever poked a voodoo
doll, I mean.

891
00:52:47,140 --> 00:52:48,620
You know what?
You know what?

892
00:52:48,620 --> 00:52:53,700
I actually think that me and my
friends as kids, like when you,

893
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:55,420
like, tried the Ouija board for
the first time.

894
00:52:55,820 --> 00:53:00,380
Yeah, I wonder if we, I feel
like we made a voodoo doll and

895
00:53:00,380 --> 00:53:02,380
like like out of popsicle sticks
or something.

896
00:53:02,420 --> 00:53:06,340
Sure, this is.
Yeah, yeah, Sally, Yeah, stick

897
00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:06,980
it in your.
Here.

898
00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:11,020
But yeah, here's in your butt,
in your eyes, your stupid face,

899
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,780
you know, like, yeah, I hope you
break your leg.

900
00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:17,340
Like, how awful is that?
But it's such a kid thing to do.

901
00:53:17,340 --> 00:53:18,940
I think that was the first time
ever touched one.

902
00:53:18,940 --> 00:53:22,020
Excuse me, It is a completion
Hollywood creation.

903
00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:23,900
So that never.
Never.

904
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:26,180
I mean, it is a cool story.
Nothing.

905
00:53:26,860 --> 00:53:30,420
Has.
Nothing to do with anything is a

906
00:53:30,420 --> 00:53:34,830
Hollywood voodoo.
Shenanigans.

907
00:53:35,070 --> 00:53:39,030
Yeah, all smoke and mirrors, No.
Smoke and mirrors like drama.

908
00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:41,430
Yeah.
I mean, it is pretty dramatic.

909
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:42,870
It is.
Dramatic.

910
00:53:43,110 --> 00:53:47,590
It's makes for good.
It's a great imagery.

911
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:48,870
Good imagery.
That's it.

912
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:49,990
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.

913
00:53:50,110 --> 00:53:51,310
I didn't know that I thought it
was.

914
00:53:51,310 --> 00:53:57,390
Now it was literally denounced
and declared irrelevant by those

915
00:53:57,390 --> 00:54:03,670
in high priesthood in Louisiana.
Voodoo, that's how.

916
00:54:04,180 --> 00:54:06,140
Fake it, it is.
Like this is so dumb.

917
00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:09,180
They don't not sell them.
Oh my God, of course they're

918
00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:10,700
gonna be sold.
BT dubs?

919
00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:12,540
Uh huh.
They actually have vending

920
00:54:12,540 --> 00:54:15,180
machines in Britain that have
voodoo dolls in them.

921
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:19,500
That is so weird.
And that Weird.

922
00:54:19,620 --> 00:54:22,540
Yeah, it's weird.
It makes people have feel like,

923
00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:24,500
but you know what?
It makes people feel like they

924
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:27,380
have control.
That's what it is, yeah.

925
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:29,580
Although some people like.
A stress ball.

926
00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:32,540
Like anything, if people just
use it for evil too.

927
00:54:32,580 --> 00:54:35,580
Yeah, it's very true.
Negative attentions, yeah.

928
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,340
As with everything in the world,
fill in the blank may be

929
00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:41,940
leveraged for good or evil.
That's the point, right?

930
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:45,620
Yeah, totally.
So this guy named Rob Gilmore,

931
00:54:46,340 --> 00:54:49,220
he's this high priesthood in in
Louisiana voodoo.

932
00:54:49,860 --> 00:54:52,060
And he said quote, this is
quote.

933
00:54:52,940 --> 00:54:56,540
It blows my mind that people
still believe voodoo dolls are

934
00:54:56,540 --> 00:55:00,620
related to voodoo.
Hollywood really did a number.

935
00:55:01,740 --> 00:55:04,780
We do not stab pins and dolls to
hurt people.

936
00:55:05,140 --> 00:55:08,500
We do not take your hair and
make a doll and worship the

937
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:12,740
devil with it and ask the devil
to give us black magic to get

938
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:16,620
our revenge on you.
It is not done, it won't be done

939
00:55:16,780 --> 00:55:21,900
and it will never exist for us.
OK Rob, way to make it sound

940
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:27,810
stupid.
Like I said it, I mean, it

941
00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:30,090
sounds really stupid the way
that he puts it.

942
00:55:30,810 --> 00:55:32,730
It's like, you're right.
Why do I believe that?

943
00:55:32,730 --> 00:55:38,250
That was really fucking dumb.
But like I said, it doesn't stop

944
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:40,970
people from making them and
selling them and, you know,

945
00:55:41,410 --> 00:55:43,930
exploiting the weakminded.
Yeah.

946
00:55:47,090 --> 00:55:51,210
But like, again, like I said,
people will take anything good.

947
00:55:51,290 --> 00:55:55,610
That's the moral of this story.
People take something.

948
00:55:56,390 --> 00:56:02,310
We started the story with very
lovely religion, for lack of.

949
00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:06,230
A Yeah.
Yeah, and ended with horror.

950
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:10,470
Yeah, it it it really shifted
and changed.

951
00:56:10,510 --> 00:56:12,150
Like something that was just she
took.

952
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:14,510
Advantage of it, she took.
Advantage of people.

953
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:19,270
She saw that people didn't.
You know, she knew about Vodou.

954
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:24,350
She knew that these rich white
people knew nothing about it.

955
00:56:24,350 --> 00:56:29,510
She saw an opportunity.
She created this preposterous

956
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:33,150
real thing, yeah.
And it's just propagated ever

957
00:56:33,150 --> 00:56:36,670
since.
And like Rob Robbie said that

958
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:39,950
the Hollywood did us no favors.
They just, you know, they took,

959
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:42,030
they took it and roll with.
And you can't blame Hollywood

960
00:56:42,030 --> 00:56:43,230
either, because that's their
business.

961
00:56:43,550 --> 00:56:46,110
But I mean, Hollywood does that
with any religion.

962
00:56:46,350 --> 00:56:48,670
Anything like it's never
accurate, right?

963
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,800
But it's interesting, like it is
a beautiful religion.

964
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,520
Yes, when you know the deep down
root.

965
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,280
Of it, Yeah.
It's really nice.

966
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,840
It's nice.
You understand why people would

967
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,360
want to be involved with it.
Just know the Louisiana voodoo.

968
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,840
No, excuse me.
Louisiana voodoo, yeah, is

969
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,880
shenanigans.
Yeah, Voodoo is legit, yeah.

970
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,540
Right.
But I would.

971
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:15,100
I would watch one of those
ceremonies that they do the

972
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:17,580
voodoo, the dancing, the dancing
the.

973
00:57:17,580 --> 00:57:19,180
Voodoo or the Voodoo?
Voodoo.

974
00:57:19,460 --> 00:57:21,900
Yeah, yeah, no, no.
That would be interesting.

975
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:24,940
Interesting.
But yeah, it's not this.

976
00:57:25,540 --> 00:57:27,220
Yeah.
It's not this, like negative

977
00:57:27,220 --> 00:57:29,620
space.
Gosh, how interesting is that?

978
00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:31,180
It's so great.
Yeah.

979
00:57:31,180 --> 00:57:35,830
I never really knew.
That vodu vodu.

980
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:37,630
Yeah, yeah.
Like, it's fascinating.

981
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:38,590
I love it.
Yeah.

982
00:57:38,590 --> 00:57:40,230
Thank you for sharing that story
with us.

983
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:41,070
You're welcome.
Yeah.

984
00:57:41,390 --> 00:57:42,910
Glad I glad I got to.
Yeah.

985
00:57:43,310 --> 00:57:46,430
Definitely.
Yeah.

986
00:57:46,430 --> 00:57:48,270
So I guess we'll see you in a
couple weeks.

987
00:57:48,310 --> 00:57:51,190
Yeah, in a couple of weeks.
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988
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:57,230
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