Aug. 8, 2023

Death Tudor Style - (Medieval Medical Madness)

With our very special guest Shannon McNamara host of the Fluently Forward Podcast, Alesha takes us on another Bizarre AF ride but this time in the medieval times of medicine. It's hard to imagine the barbaric treatments for ailments and deceases the likes of which no sane person could ever dream up. That said, Alesha as conjured up some doozies for us. (fortunately, she didn't make them up) You'll want to hear about the twisted ways King Arthur the 8th was tortured all in the name of science and medicine. YIKES!

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Hello bizarre story, friends.
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unusual, and all things bizarre.
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on listening to those facts as
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journey, Death Tutor style.
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Irish health.
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Tell me we are lucky to actually
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Yes, introduce introduction.
The host of Fluently Forward,

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Shannon McNamara.
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to be here.
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Pleasure.
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Welcome, Shannon.
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Thank you so much.
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Which are Shannon's ladies,
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Some of your votes, Yeah, Even
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To call yourself, you know,
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Cheers.
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fucking.
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Nerds, cheers.
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Alicia.
I'm.

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I'm happy to tell you something
weird.

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OK?
Whoever beverages in hand, gonna

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get weird.
King Henry the Eighth.

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January the 8th.
Not the 7th, 6th or 5th or 4th.

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No or third or second or first.
9th Not the ninth.

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OK, not.
The 9th, The 8th.

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Specifically, what do you guys
think of when you first?

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I think of a song.
Yes.

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And Ray the I I am, I am.
That's about all I know.

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I love that.
I think of someone who gets

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around town.
I think of someone who would

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have used Tinder today.
Yeah, I think of someone who

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liked to spread it around and
yeah, get that seed out there.

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I mean, he definitely did that,
yes.

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Seed.
Yeah, he wanted to plant the

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seed for sure.
His wives are another popular

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thing that people think of.
So he was the king of England

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and he was well known for those
six wives that there's a

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Broadway show right now that's
going on called 6 The Musical

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about this.
And it's just the six women his

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wives.
So each one have like it's kind

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of like Hamilton, honestly.
OK, I don't mind the music of

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it, but I heard the music.
Of this musical, Yes, I'm that

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person, yes.
We know we.

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Know you.
I can't believe you even.

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Asked that question.
Yeah, right.

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So I've listened to it, but it
feels kind of like Hamilton

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here's hot take.
Okay Six is just riding on the

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coat tails of Hamilton.
Bum bum bum, yeah.

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But it's not the Kotels.
It's the tampon string.

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It's like women only, you know?
Yeah.

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Totally on the tampon string,
yeah.

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I like to ride on the tampon
string sometimes.

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Why not?
It gets your place.

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So he was, he had six wives.
First wife, you know, was with

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another woman, right?
He liked to get it out there, so

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to say.
And he's married to them all at

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the same time, right?
No.

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So Mary's divorces, Mary's
divorces.

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Yeah, because he is a good
Christian boy.

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Sure.
Or a Catholic boy at this point.

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Got it.
He ends up going to the Pope and

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saying, hey, I need to get my my
relationship or my marriage

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annulled.
The first time the 1st.

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Time Okay married to his first
wife.

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Okay, got it, the Pope says.
Nope.

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And then?
I think that needs to be a

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tshirt.
It does.

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Pope says no, and it led to the
English Reformation.

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So the English Reformation is
where King Henry changed the

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religion of England.
In order to get a divorce, to

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get a divorce, so they became
Protestant.

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He creates the Church of
England, which he is the head

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of.
Sure, go figure.

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So the real question is, how
good was it the to the poon

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Tang?
The poon Tang.

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Yeah, to drop an entire
religion.

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I've never had sex that good
before.

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Yeah, but I'm sure it's out.
There sex.

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But.
Do all of that.

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Yeah.
Have you ever had sex?

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So good it makes you want to
like, form an LLC?

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This is like one step above it.
I was like, ah, fuck, like build

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a church.
You.

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Know.
Like, yeah.

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Never.
Not yet.

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Not yet.
Not let's.

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Hope one day we all experience
you know nothing on what.

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Yeah, sex so good.
You want to build a library?

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Damn it.
Good for him.

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Well, so that's what had ended
up happening.

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And Henry, the images of him we
always think of.

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You know, you see the older
versions of Henry when he was a

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king for a while, but he was an
before that.

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He was an avid outdoorsman.
He loved hunting.

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He loved playing tennis.
He loved jousting, being on a

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horse.
It's kind of giving Robert

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Baratheon from Game of Thrones,
you know, like he was the

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strapping warrior.
But then he became king and he

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kind of just started drinking.
Yeah, yeah.

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I never watched the show.
No, I'm Can you give me either?

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Okay.
No, but I'm just but that is my

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perception that's.
What I would think, yeah.

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But trust me, it's accurate.
And now that you told me that

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I'm gonna, like, slip in fake
characters, I'll be like, I was

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totally like Queen Turley
learned, you know?

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Oh my gosh.
She's the best with her mice.

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Yeah, she had all these mice is
like.

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Magical mice.
Yeah, I would fucking believe it

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for sure.
So okay so he was.

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He was an avid outdoorsman, but
the depictions of him today we

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see more of a rotund guy.
He, you know, a nice way to say

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is jolly, but really he was not.
Santa Claus shape, you mean?

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Yes, Santa Claus shape.
Yeah, he was more rotund and not

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the original Henry that that he
was at the beginning of his

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reign, so in January.
Typical hot king that you the

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hot and he was.
That's exactly very charismatic,

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very like would bring people.
His speeches were known to be

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just amazing.
He was a great king.

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Everyone loved him before
January of 19.

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I said 19151536 January 15.
He's risen again in the 1900s,

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In the 1900s, Henry's back.
So in January of 1536 he was

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knocked off of his horse with a
Lance blow.

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The horse actually fell on top
of Henry and he was unconscious

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for.
Hours now.

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This was a massive jousting
accident that his actually, his

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inner circle were like, he's
never going to recover, he's

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going to die.
But that like the saying, the

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good die young, he recovered so
he had severe head trauma and he

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was knocked unconscious for
hours.

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I honestly, who really knows
because inner circles will keep

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this information pretty secret,
but he was at least he was

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knocked out for a few hours.
That's what they're willing to

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say.
But what happens to

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personalities with severe head
trauma, right?

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Yeah, they do like a 180 and
it's always usually for the

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angrier.
It's never like I had like a

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head wound and now I like give
to charity all the time.

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Like now I tell stand up jokes.
It's always like I became an

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asshole.
Totally, yeah.

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Yeah, exactly.
I'm gonna sit here and eat and

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be a Dick.
Yes, it's always an asshole.

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So you guys are right.
It's medical professionals today

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who look at his case file say
that his personality changed

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because of that head trauma and
that is why the tyranny that he

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is often associated with his
subject as well as his his wives

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occurred was because of that.
So in addition to this head

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injury, Henry also suffered
injuries injuries to his leg and

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this would result in open ulcers
that would that were formed on

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his leg for the rest of his
life.

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So back during that day they
used to think like a healing

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wound was bad.
So in order to have something

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heal properly and you wanted it
to have like open air and you

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would constantly like cut.
Open the wall.

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Shut up.
Yeah, yeah.

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So he had like these like
bulging like bandages and stuff,

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isn't?
That crazy, like how they

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thought that back then.
Because like when it heals, like

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it heals, you know what I mean?
Like the ideas people, even with

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like leeches, like sucking out
the bad blood.

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Like.
It's just so strange.

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It's.
So barbaric, yeah.

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Sorry.
Yeah, well and so this is also

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the time, like you said,
leeches.

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Also the time of bloodletting
and bloodletting was where they

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would release blood thinking it
was poisoned and trying to

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create like oh once we let all
this bad blood, the good bloods

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going to come in which like.
I kind of do get that.

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Like, I know, I know.
It's like I.

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Didn't know anything.
Like, you would think that, oh,

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I totally would have been like a
believer.

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I'd be like, makes sense, you
know?

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Yeah.
I I mean, I I do see that.

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Like, maybe.
But also these people were so

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sick and it just kind of made
them more complacent because

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they're all anemic And for.
Yeah, exactly.

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It's like, oh, no, this is what
This is how this is healing.

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They're being healed.
So it's like, by the way, do you

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ever get those ads on TikTok
where they're like, you have too

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much like poop in your system,
so you need to take these

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vitamins that like do a colon
cleanse because like one day

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they're going to look back on
that and be like, no, like poop

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is in your system until like,
you can never be fully poopless.

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You know, like you can't not
have.

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So we still kind of do these
things to this day.

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I mean, that's really true.
Have you ever done, have you

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guys ever done like a super
dieter's tea?

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No.
No, I've heard though, that like

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you did it.
Does that just flush you out?

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Oh my God.
We just, like, I'm doing it

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right now.
I was gonna say I would have to

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have something here at the
moment and it would not be

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comfortable.
I thought I was dying.

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I'm not even kidding.
I honestly thought I was dying.

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When I took it.
I was like, Oh yeah, sure.

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I'll try this.
Super Dieters tea.

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It's a tea that you drink.
It has some kind of herbal like

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yeah, mix that just.
Is this an ad?

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You're like and we have a code
too.

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Bizarre.
Yeah.

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When you're checking out of.
Yeah, it is not pleasant.

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It hurts your stomach.
My mom actually once played a

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trick on someone on a road trip
and gave them some dieters.

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No, I think that's one of those.
On a road trip?

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Yes, you had to drive like 7
hours.

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Well, no.
You're punishing yourself

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because now you have to be in
the car with that person.

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No, she was not in the.
Car, can you say sadistic awful?

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Yeah, so awful.
Anyway, digress, so, so

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bloodletting.
So he, he had always had these

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sores on his legs and over the
next 10 years it they were never

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healed because they're
constantly being opened up by

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his physicians saying this is
what we need to do for the rest

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of your life.
He would actually survive more

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than one occasion where
infection from these wounds

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risked his life.
And they said I believe it, yes.

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Cutting yourself back open,
getting infected.

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It's like they had antibiotics.
Yeah, I know.

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It's so true, right?
It's awful.

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So that jousting, accident,
accident really affected his

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whole life and he was unable to
be active after his injury.

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And this is something else that
we see with former athletes,

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right?
Like so, who are unable to be

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active but have always been
active.

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Their appetites don't change.
So they're so used to being

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active now.
They're sedentary, but they're

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still consuming all of these
calories.

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Right.
Yeah.

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And this motherfucker loved rich
foods.

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Loved them so much.
So his waist was 54 inches wide.

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That's pretty big.
Very big.

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He's a big boy, yeah.
Short King, Big Boy.

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Yeah, and.
And then actually 400 pounds he

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was, they were believing that he
was about £400 like towards the

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end of his life.
I saw years ago when I went to

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England to like some of his
armor, like in the later stage

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of his life, and it was like.
It's like when they put Shrek in

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armor to, like, rescue Fiona.
It's like, whoa, it was like,

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well, it was all made for, but
yes, yeah, it was all made for

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him.
And like you saw it, like

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tapered out for this huge
stomach.

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My God, they also did that with
Robert Baratheon.

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I'll send you guys a clip.
Trust me.

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I believe you.
Yeah, even though I'm a little

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skeptical because I.
Use like the the breastplate

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stretcher or something.
So maybe they use that for King

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Henry too.
Maybe he was based off of him.

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Actually, he probably was, yeah,
because didn't he base a lot of

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his characters?
I think he did off of like,

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yeah, tutors and like a lot of
those kingdoms.

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So probably they're interesting.
So over time there were lots of

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measures that were introduced
into to account for his feeling

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health.
They had wheelchairs like

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towards the end of his life that
were constructed to move him

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around the palaces.
And of course once people start

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seeing the king being wheeled
around, rumors start spreading.

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Sure.
And things were great.

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Yeah, it was dangerous back in
those days to let people see you

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were sick or, yeah, you know,
and then you start getting

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mutinees and.
Yes, yeah.

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And people will try
overthrowing.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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It's not good.
They had like their own version

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of elevators, so he would be
like wenched up to upper levels

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in the castle.
Yeah, it's like a whole team of

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men, just like pulling him up in
secret.

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Of course they would do it at
night so no one could see him

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and those who knew him knew that
he was a broken man, but in a

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shadow of his former self,
right?

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He was this like attractive, you
know, really inspiring ruler

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that was completely fucking
broken by the end of it.

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So a little more than a year
before his death, he actually

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attended a parliament on
Christmas Eve in 1549, and he

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delivered an address, and it was
really him at his finest.

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He had a throwback to that
charismatic side of him and he

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was basically saying we need to
come together because there's a

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lot of like religious issues.
Is it gonorrhea?

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So he was trying to bring his
people together and say we need

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to come together, be humble and
and you know, come together for

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England really.
So another thing that he was

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known to have contracted this
because we're getting close to

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the end of his.
Very close.

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OK.
I was just assuming syphilis.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
That was gonna be my second

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syphilis.
So he had syphilis because he

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had so many affairs.
He had six.

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He just had six wives, OK?
Not to mention all the affairs

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that he was having.
So would this pussy leg.

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And being hoisted up to like a
bedroom.

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He was still banging.
He was still banging.

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I'm guessing there was a lot of,
like, Cowgirl.

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Yeah, that's exactly what I was
thinking.

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I'm like, I'm thinking he wasn't
doing much of the work.

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Yeah, he's like picking someone
up against the wall in the rain.

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Like no, that was pre joust.
Yeah, definitely not pose joust

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he well.
And could you imagine with that

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like those bandages and OK.
The smell.

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The smell, yes.
Maybe they were like

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bloodletting.
They're like, this is he's like,

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this is like the bad cum and
like I have to get it out.

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So, like, we have to be doing
this, you know?

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Yeah.
Anything for you, Sire.

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So he also so you had syphilis,
he had smallpox, right?

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And they think that he suffered
a series of strokes because of

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his his diabetes and his his
blood pressure.

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Damn.
So this guy was.

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Dude was jacked.
He was so jacked.

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And then on top of that, he
loves rich foods.

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He's fat.
He has gout.

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It's actually kind of crazy that
like he didn't just die because

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back then, you know, it's not
like they could put you on these

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antibiotics or like these blood
thinners, like he was just white

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knuckling it through like 9
different chronic conditions.

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Yeah, and and you.
Fucking miserable.

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How do you have the energy?
No, no, I think, I think I have

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a.
Cold and I'm like, stay away.

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I just want.
To lay in bed, it's like eating

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a cherry.
I'm getting his Dick sucked.

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He's like, everything's fine.
Give me some.

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Just just pour it right into my
gullet.

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Fetch me some more.
Like, what the fuck?

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So his last days were said to
have been horrendous.

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He wasn't even able to speak.
Like he couldn't speak at all.

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And he was bedridden, of course,
the stench from his rotting

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flesh, because we still have
that infected leg that has never

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not been infected for years.
Because they keep cutting it

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open, letting everything out.
They said that it was so bad

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people would get sick from the
smell, so they had to burn like,

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OK, how do you cover up a smell
today?

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We have Febreze, we have
Poopery, we have, you know,

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different things to cover it up.
What do they have done?

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It traps the odors.
It doesn't mask them.

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That's.
Right.

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Like herbs, Dried herbs.
Herbs.

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That's a great gas.
Do you have any gas?

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Incense.
Incense.

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You know, incense.
And it was like fucking rocks

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and shit.
Worthy incense.

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Yeah.
And of course they probably had

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like poultices, like herb, like
salve mixes on his running

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flesh, but like, but it was this
like heavy.

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Air of stank, stank and fucking
incense.

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It's like smelling.
It's like when you go take a

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shit and you spray the flower
spray and it's like now it just

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smells like flowery shit.
So gross.

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That's why I think.
This was always have matches in

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the bathroom, yes, but then also
it's like, well, now everyone

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knows they took a shit because
it smells like that.

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There's really no good, yeah,
but the pooperie are supposed to

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spray into the water.
Yeah, before.

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Yes, yeah, I love how we all
noticed.

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Hell yeah, Can we?
I saw that commercial and I was

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like, I'll take a four fat.
Thank you.

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I need one for my purse.
The world is my toilet.

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Now can use anyone, so people
are walking in his like inner

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circle are gagging from this
mall.

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It's hot.
It's disgusting.

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At what point don't you just
kill the king and say I'm can't

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do anything?
You can't.

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Fucking talk.
He's paralyzed.

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They were at least pretty loyal.
At the end, I would be like, I

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give up.
What's he going to do?

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Fire me?
He can't move, you know?

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So good for them.
Yeah, they they really like.

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They really stuck by him.
That's some loyalty that we all

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want.
Yeah, Ride or die, baby.

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So he actually finally ends up
dying on January 28th 1547 at 55

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years old as a result 55, not
55, as a result of renal and

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liver liver failure.
Among other things, yeah, like

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an entire lifetime of shit.
And like, normally when you hear

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about King Henry the Eighth, you
just hear about his wives and

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you hear about how crazy he was,
but you don't really hear like

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potentially why he was so crazy
and hear about.

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The pussy and not the puss, you.
Know yes, yeah.

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You have a pussy and not the
pussy.

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But like honestly I get why.
Just brushing.

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Brushing my hair while you're
talking because I'm not used to

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my long luxuries.
So yeah, I mean, I think it's

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interesting that we never hear
about this.

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Or like, the fact that his his
fucking leg smelled so bad that

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people would gag around it.
He's making his chambermaids

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gag.
Like, that's fucking

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interesting.
Yeah, he's making woman.

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Everyone's gagging around him
well and he he really was trying

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to stay alive for a while
because there was huge questions

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and who's going to take over
the.

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Oh yeah.
Did he have a son?

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So that's why he had also so
many wives.

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He kept on trying for a son and
like, I think that one of his

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wives had a son and that was
still birth.

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But he had daughters.
He had Elizabeth.

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Well, that just won't do.
Yes, a woman could never be a

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ruler.
Never so, so he has this son.

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But the son has always been
known to like kind of be in ill

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health.
And because of that, he's like,

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well, let me wait until he's a
little bit stronger to like pass

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the throne on.
He ends up getting the throne

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when he's a child.
And he had, they don't really

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know exactly what he had, but he
definitely had some kind of like

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pneumonia or something that was
never, never really went away.

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And he ends up dying, leaving
his sisters up to get the

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throne.
He says who he wants to get the

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throne.
That's not very interesting.

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Who ends up getting the throne?
Is Queen Elizabeth the First.

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So that's Henry's daughter.
It's actually Anne Boleyn's Ann

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Bolin and King Henry.
Their union.

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Is Queen Elizabeth the First.
What do you guys know about her?

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God, Nothing.
I don't think I do either.

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00:24:04,350 --> 00:24:07,190
I just don't know anything.
No, I have terrible history in

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that.
I'll give you a brief overview.

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00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:11,630
Okay.
Super synopsis.

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00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:13,590
Like Cliff notes, Yes, super
synopsis.

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So she was one of the longest
reigning monarchs.

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Just spoiler alert, longest
reading monarch.

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Aside from the Queen Elizabeth
of yesteryear just there just

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but she was around when the
Shakespearean like revival, they

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call it the Elizabethan period.
She was very into building up

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the Armada like the Navy, the
English Navy.

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She also and she was working
with Spain quite a bit.

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They were kind of lots of art.
Shakespeare was huge.

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She was huge into fashion and
beauty, and really a nickname

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that she had was the Virgin
Queen.

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Yeah, which is interesting, but
I kind of wanted.

447
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Sorry, random question.
Real quick.

448
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000
Let's, let's ask it, yeah.
What?

449
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How old was she when her dad
died?

450
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,640
Do you know, I want to say she
was like 1819?

451
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,680
She was, she wasn't super.
She was like in her late teens

452
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,720
to early 20s.
And since he didn't have a son,

453
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,600
they're like he did have a
science.

454
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,400
Oh, the son took the throne.
Oh, and the son died.

455
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,440
Oh.
OK, there was a vacuum.

456
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,040
And so she ended up with her
people, ended up taking the the

457
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,760
throne.
Yeah.

458
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,440
What did she?
Look like, was she pretty?

459
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,680
She was known to be beautiful.
She had red hair, like super red

460
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,900
hair.
I feel like there have been

461
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:48,540
shows that have portrayed her,
yes.

462
00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:50,780
Just like.
That like there was the show the

463
00:25:50,780 --> 00:25:54,660
tutors.
And I know, Oh my God, she plays

464
00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:57,460
Marjorie Tyrout.
Natalie Dormer was in it.

465
00:25:57,580 --> 00:26:01,140
But I don't know who she plays.
I just imagine everyone to be

466
00:26:01,140 --> 00:26:03,660
beautiful.
I know with like low cut

467
00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:06,660
cleavage dresses and velvet and
all the right places.

468
00:26:07,020 --> 00:26:08,300
Boobies off?
Yeah.

469
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:11,340
Well, and she was really the
person to like set the standard

470
00:26:11,340 --> 00:26:15,000
for fashion.
So like when you think of during

471
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000
that time, people like would
shave their eyebrows, right?

472
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,280
So she really didn't have much
eyebrows.

473
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,360
She was like super redhead.
Classic ginger.

474
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:27,640
Yeah, yeah, classic ginger.
And she would like, really pale

475
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,640
out her skin like super.
Like you guys.

476
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,560
Super.
Yeah, yeah.

477
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,800
She was white.
Yeah.

478
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,480
She was.
She was Elvin.

479
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,740
Yeah.
I feel like I have now seen

480
00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:39,940
Queen Elizabeth almost, although
maybe I'm thinking of like the

481
00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:42,780
Queen of Hearts and Alice in
Wonderland, but I.

482
00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:44,140
Feel like throw powder and.
White, yeah.

483
00:26:44,140 --> 00:26:46,900
Powder.
White face with like red coit up

484
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:50,220
hair and like a big dress.
Yeah, that is totally, yeah.

485
00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:52,940
The the Charlie and the
Chocolate Factory.

486
00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:56,300
With what is her name, The Queen
of Hearts.

487
00:26:57,450 --> 00:27:00,570
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
The Helen bought Helen about

488
00:27:00,610 --> 00:27:03,130
bottom Carter.
Yes, that is very similar to

489
00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:05,450
what?
An ask type of energy, but

490
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:08,010
that's very similar to what her
style was.

491
00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:11,410
And she was really setting the
stage she was.

492
00:27:11,610 --> 00:27:14,490
She also had a smallpox, which a
lot of people got.

493
00:27:14,970 --> 00:27:19,570
And in any pictures that you see
of her, you don't see smallpox,

494
00:27:19,570 --> 00:27:21,850
of course, right?
Like you won't see it on Queen

495
00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:26,390
Elizabeth the 1st.
She would cover up her smallpox

496
00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:29,630
scars that were all over her
body, but really over her face

497
00:27:29,870 --> 00:27:36,550
with this really pasty white
toxic paint.

498
00:27:36,990 --> 00:27:42,630
It was lead and mercury that she
mixed in my applying it directly

499
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:44,870
to her face.
Yeah, hell yeah.

500
00:27:45,710 --> 00:27:48,310
And it was, of course that's
deadly, right?

501
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:52,650
So she was because she was
insecure.

502
00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:56,490
She also did like another
solution which was applying it

503
00:27:56,490 --> 00:28:01,330
here all over her neck.
She did white lead and vinegar.

504
00:28:02,290 --> 00:28:05,650
Was she not getting sick?
No, she was sick all the time.

505
00:28:05,890 --> 00:28:08,490
Oh, and they're not like putting
two and two together, like,

506
00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:10,450
well, stop putting lid on you.
Think about it.

507
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:15,540
Every turn there was like a
fucking new like, oh the the

508
00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:17,300
play, a new plague's going to
happen.

509
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:20,580
So it's like everyone's like
it's such a low standard health

510
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:24,500
wise that it's like, I'm sure
they were fucking eating lead.

511
00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:26,860
I'm sure that there was like
there was so much.

512
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:31,700
You know, random facts off
topic.

513
00:28:31,740 --> 00:28:35,180
Lead that they would put, they
would create lead containers,

514
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,260
put liquids.
I can't remember what liquids

515
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:39,900
they were, but the lead would
sweeten.

516
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:43,910
The whatever the mixture is, I
can't remember what it was, but

517
00:28:43,910 --> 00:28:45,510
that's how they would sweeten
things.

518
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:51,390
Containers.
See, That's the thing.

519
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:54,390
So drink like drinking lead.
They're putting lead on their

520
00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:57,030
face.
That's crazy.

521
00:28:57,150 --> 00:29:00,190
Well, like, like you do.
You just don't know right at

522
00:29:00,190 --> 00:29:01,950
that time.
You don't know that these

523
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:03,030
things.
That's right.

524
00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:07,040
So when she would apply this
makeup, it was done.

525
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,200
It was like she had an entire
her get ready with me like

526
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,040
videos, be like so long.
And she had like an entire take.

527
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Talk videos just for herself.
Get ready with me while I put on

528
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200
this lead based.
Paint.

529
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,800
Don't worry that premature aging
isn't because of it.

530
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,140
So she would hold this like
pasty white shit on her face for

531
00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:33,380
an entire week.
So she slept in it.

532
00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:36,380
She would never take it off, She
wouldn't clean it or anything

533
00:29:36,380 --> 00:29:40,700
for a week.
And that adds to premature

534
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:44,000
aging, yeah.
OK, so skin can't breathe first

535
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,840
of all.
Well, at least she had on like

536
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,160
sunblock because she's a ginger,
so it's like totally covered,

537
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,440
you know?
Yeah, that's true.

538
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,240
She was very, very, very pale,
very pale.

539
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:02,200
So she, let's see, she actually
would leave it on and then when

540
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,080
she would wash her face, it was
so aggravated and like, you

541
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,830
know, think of that pink and red
and like you're you're basically

542
00:30:10,830 --> 00:30:14,630
scrubbing this shit off.
It's like an abrasive, like

543
00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:16,590
stuff.
Probably taking a layer of your

544
00:30:16,590 --> 00:30:18,630
skin off.
They said that it was like an

545
00:30:18,670 --> 00:30:22,230
inch thick of paint that she had
on her face, like that's how

546
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:25,790
much she would put on.
And as she got older, people

547
00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:28,870
would, people would tell her in
her suitors and court like,

548
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:31,590
court folks are like, Oh my
gosh, you're the most beautiful

549
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:34,030
woman because she was so
insecure about her looks.

550
00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:38,020
I mean, go figure she looked
really fucking old and she had

551
00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:39,940
all these like holes and stuff
in her face.

552
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:47,500
So she took wash her face.
She didn't take, you know, soap

553
00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:49,820
and water to it.
No, no, no, no.

554
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:56,420
She Oh, no, here we go.
She mixed egg shells.

555
00:30:56,740 --> 00:31:00,860
Oh, alum and mercury.
Alum.

556
00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:02,300
What is alum?
It's a.

557
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,070
It's a.
What is that?

558
00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:06,830
Like a mineral?
Yes, it's like, it's like a

559
00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:09,710
mineral, OK, but really, mercury
is the one that fucks you up the

560
00:31:09,710 --> 00:31:12,150
most, right?
Yeah, makes it into a paste and

561
00:31:12,150 --> 00:31:14,470
like, scrubs her face with it.
What is it?

562
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:16,070
What?
They're fetish with mercury.

563
00:31:16,190 --> 00:31:17,990
Like what?
What the hell?

564
00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:23,150
No, I don't know.
Like these experts today say

565
00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:26,990
that that will like mercury,
putting it on your face will eat

566
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:28,990
away at your flesh.
Oh God.

567
00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:31,910
But you know what?
We do have like, exfoliants.

568
00:31:31,910 --> 00:31:34,950
Like I remember using these,
like, stride X pads for acne

569
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:38,430
when I was like, in middle
school that were just breaking

570
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:41,070
down the barrier of my skin.
But you were like, oh, you don't

571
00:31:41,070 --> 00:31:43,710
want it to be oily for acne?
So instead.

572
00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:47,710
You would just like strip your
skin of everything so too far

573
00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:49,310
removed.
We're not that much better.

574
00:31:49,510 --> 00:31:51,110
I get.
I mean, we're getting a little

575
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:54,950
bit better now, like, but still
eggshell, like, that's crazy.

576
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:57,670
That eggshell back then is like
the walnut scrub of today.

577
00:31:58,470 --> 00:32:00,310
Yeah, it totally is.
Or the apricots.

578
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:03,790
That's what it is.
Yeah, Apricot, Oh my gosh.

579
00:32:03,870 --> 00:32:09,110
I mean, so the fact that there
was lead and mercury that she

580
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:14,350
was using on a weekly basis was
adding to all of her issues,

581
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:18,590
health issues, she.
So they say like some of the the

582
00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:20,830
issues, the health issues that
you would have from this, from

583
00:32:20,910 --> 00:32:26,530
mercury poisoning, memory loss,
irritability, depression, now

584
00:32:26,530 --> 00:32:29,850
these are all symptoms that she
was said to have had as she was

585
00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:32,170
approaching death.
At what age?

586
00:32:32,170 --> 00:32:34,330
30?
Yeah, like 70, actually.

587
00:32:34,650 --> 00:32:36,810
Oh yeah.
Yeah, she lives for.

588
00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:39,730
One never of death.
Yeah, she's like putting a

589
00:32:39,730 --> 00:32:42,210
fucking an inch of what is in
there.

590
00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:45,260
There's something in their genes
because.

591
00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:47,500
Actually, maybe Mercury, like,
makes you live longer.

592
00:32:47,660 --> 00:32:50,820
Like I'm just like.
Yeah, now I'm like crazy 70.

593
00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:54,020
Yeah, even like, oh, her lip
stain.

594
00:32:54,020 --> 00:32:59,140
She would do red on her lips and
that was with not fruits and

595
00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:03,300
berries.
Not like pink dye or something.

596
00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:10,360
It was cinnabar, which was a
toxic mineral that contains

597
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,600
mercury.
So everywhere, everywhere you

598
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,680
could possibly see.
Mercury, Mercury, Mercury.

599
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,400
She was not like a glossy egg
girl.

600
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,400
She was like a full beat, you
know, She was a full beat all

601
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,600
the time.
So we'll have a picture of what

602
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,560
they think she did look like, or
closer to what she actually

603
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,040
looked like towards the end of
her death.

604
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,480
She just, like, imagined her
uglier because, like, no one

605
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,160
drew her like that, I'm sure.
Well, See.

606
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,880
Yeah, Yes, exactly.
No one really drew her that way.

607
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,960
But I'll show you guys.
Yes, OK.

608
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,800
They do kind of get the age in
there.

609
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Yeah, they do, yeah.
So she looks a little wrinkly.

610
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Yes.
And.

611
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Hairstyles are how did any like?
I know we've had some like cess

612
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,200
hairstyles, but how did anyone
think that looked good?

613
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,920
It was so bad.
My God, yeah, this is the old

614
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,600
picture of her.
Yeah.

615
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,040
Her eyes are kind of sunken in.
Also like, that will be me in 20

616
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,760
years.
I'm like, oh, gross.

617
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,280
I'm like, yeah, no, I see it.
I see what that looks like and

618
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,199
they so this is a a genuine and
realistic one.

619
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,000
Once again, when you're looking
at this picture, you have to

620
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,320
know that it's probably
photoshopped, like photoshopped

621
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,159
by the artist back then to make
it look a little bit better

622
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:22,760
because he doesn't want his head
cut off.

623
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,860
Because he fucking, like painted
a picture of her that actually

624
00:34:26,860 --> 00:34:28,860
is realistic.
You don't see any pox scars or

625
00:34:28,860 --> 00:34:31,340
anything like that in there,
which is something that she had

626
00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:35,659
a hard time with.
Another thing she loved sweets.

627
00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:38,260
Loved them.
Relatable queen.

628
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:45,540
Literally a little relatable
queen, so she would eat them

629
00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:48,810
nonstop, causing her teeth to
rot.

630
00:34:48,889 --> 00:34:52,530
Of course, did she at least have
like a like a pink butt hole or

631
00:34:52,530 --> 00:34:54,690
something?
Or was like everything is like

632
00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:57,050
actually no.
She also had like bunions and

633
00:34:57,050 --> 00:35:00,130
like pancreas sores.
She had warts on her butt hole,

634
00:35:01,090 --> 00:35:02,690
ingrown hairs and shit.
Totally.

635
00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:08,890
So the I I had briefly like,
mentioned and oh, so with her

636
00:35:08,890 --> 00:35:12,770
teeth, she didn't have like any
teeth on like half of her face.

637
00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:16,610
And by the end of her life it
was so bad.

638
00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:19,650
She anytime she would talk
quickly, people couldn't

639
00:35:19,650 --> 00:35:24,410
understand her because she had
like basically no teeth and like

640
00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:27,690
shit was just robbing.
It's like black and all fucked

641
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:29,450
up.
So you look at pictures of Queen

642
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:32,090
Elizabeth, just imagine like
meth mouth.

643
00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:35,130
Yeah, that's what I'm picturing.
Yeah.

644
00:35:36,770 --> 00:35:43,160
So I kind of alluded to it
before, which her being called

645
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120
the Virgin Queen now, of course.
She had.

646
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,880
I think maybe it was not by
choice after hearing all this

647
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:55,320
stuff.
I mean, like, fucking for sure.

648
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,520
So she, I mean she did the the
Virgin Queen was like really

649
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,040
kind of trying to create control
because what was the control

650
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,560
that she had her throne having
her thrown.

651
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,440
If she took on a husband, then
he would be king.

652
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,360
That would usurp some of her
authority.

653
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,400
So she was trying to keep hold
on to to authority.

654
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,480
Think of like what her her mom
had to deal with.

655
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,080
Her mom had to deal with a ton
of shit.

656
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,240
She was killed early and then
people tried killing Elizabeth

657
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,840
quite a few times because she
was an heir to the throne and

658
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,640
there are other potential heirs
that were.

659
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:37,070
So she was trying to withstand
any kind of overthrowing her

660
00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:41,990
entire, her entire reign.
Which is why she was like, yeah,

661
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:46,510
no, I'm the virgin queen.
I'm, you know, I'm untouched.

662
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:50,110
I'm like this specimen with
rotting fucking teeth.

663
00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:53,670
And do you guys actually think
she was a virgin?

664
00:36:54,010 --> 00:36:56,570
Do you think that that's?
I like to imagine she was

665
00:36:56,570 --> 00:37:00,410
scissoring with her handmaidens
just because, like, I always

666
00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:03,890
like to imagine that.
No, I'm sure she was getting

667
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:05,370
doinked down.
Yeah, I think.

668
00:37:05,410 --> 00:37:08,850
She got a doinker too, I think
so I think that she probably

669
00:37:08,850 --> 00:37:12,410
did.
There's kind of a fucked up

670
00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:15,650
thing that had happened in her
childhood, which kind of makes

671
00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:18,770
you feel a little bit bad for
Queen Elizabeth the First.

672
00:37:19,010 --> 00:37:23,090
So she was sent to live with
her.

673
00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:26,660
Father's uncle, it was an uncle,
It's.

674
00:37:26,980 --> 00:37:30,340
Always an uncle?
Yes, Thomas Seymour.

675
00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:37,460
So he had married King Henry the
Eighth's first wife, who he had

676
00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:39,340
gotten that annulment from.
Oh.

677
00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:40,660
Wow.
Sloppy second.

678
00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:46,220
Totally so Thomas Seymour and I
think believe it was Ann Parr or

679
00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:51,020
Catherine Parr.
They had had housed her while

680
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:54,770
his her father was still alive.
They would have tickle fights

681
00:37:55,930 --> 00:38:00,330
and she like Catherine would
hold her down.

682
00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:02,770
And then like there were times
where now you're reading it

683
00:38:02,770 --> 00:38:07,770
today and basically what it's
what it end up saying was that

684
00:38:08,090 --> 00:38:10,610
her like dress was tattered and
stuff.

685
00:38:10,610 --> 00:38:13,690
So he probably was like fucking
raping her while she was a young

686
00:38:13,690 --> 00:38:14,970
child.
Right.

687
00:38:14,970 --> 00:38:18,330
Find this Like, did Elizabeth
write it down in the diary?

688
00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:22,100
Or like confess to someone.
Well I so I think it may have

689
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:26,660
come out because he let's see he
was actually the IT was the

690
00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:28,140
uncle of her younger half
brother.

691
00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:31,860
OK so he was executed for
attempting to get Elizabeth to

692
00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:34,940
marry him.
So he was trying to get before

693
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:37,540
Elizabeth took the throne.
He was trying to force marriage

694
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:38,940
on it.
So it must have come out during

695
00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:43,340
that because he got executed.
He was a fucking pedophile.

696
00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:46,580
She was a child when he took
took her on.

697
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:51,110
Also she potentially had a
pregnancy.

698
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:57,350
So a man that she was very
attracted to and loved, She had

699
00:38:57,350 --> 00:39:00,350
his chambers moved right next to
hers while she was the virgin

700
00:39:00,350 --> 00:39:04,750
queen.
And she was, they later say oh,

701
00:39:04,750 --> 00:39:07,470
she wasn't able to make any like
events or anything because she

702
00:39:07,470 --> 00:39:10,430
was swelling.
What does that mean?

703
00:39:11,290 --> 00:39:13,730
She's not swelling.
She's not.

704
00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:16,490
What was that that we were just
talking about with the blueberry

705
00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:19,050
from?
Oh, like the inflation fetish.

706
00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:21,490
Or like woman get like pumped up
or something.

707
00:39:21,570 --> 00:39:24,530
She was definitely not doing
that back in the SO.

708
00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:27,570
She had the baby.
I'm guessing we don't know.

709
00:39:28,010 --> 00:39:29,130
Oh.
We don't know.

710
00:39:29,170 --> 00:39:30,970
That's scandalous.
That is the total.

711
00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:33,570
Skin It's giving a great idea
for an HBO spinoff.

712
00:39:33,850 --> 00:39:34,890
It's like what?
It's giving.

713
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:36,290
Yeah.
Right.

714
00:39:36,490 --> 00:39:38,090
So she.
Yeah.

715
00:39:38,090 --> 00:39:44,470
So she actually ended up ended
up having to potential pregnancy

716
00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:47,870
as she was getting older.
She was really fucking

717
00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:50,150
depressed, super depressed.
Like there are some people in

718
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:52,310
her life that were dying.
Well, of course she was like 70,

719
00:39:53,110 --> 00:39:55,630
and she had like these bouts of
melancholy where she would just

720
00:39:55,630 --> 00:40:00,630
like paste the floors and like
not want to talk to anyone hurt

721
00:40:00,630 --> 00:40:03,070
The Earl of Essex, which was one
that one of people that she had

722
00:40:03,070 --> 00:40:06,790
died or had had died.
She during her final day, as she

723
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:10,910
was saying how much she really
regretted killing some people

724
00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:13,910
because she killed quite a quite
a bit of people like her cousin

725
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:18,390
Mary Queen of Scots.
She you know the story Mary

726
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:20,470
Queen of Scots so Elizabeth
killed her.

727
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:26,190
She was also haunted by visions
of her, of of her own frail

728
00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:31,100
body.
And so she had an idea that,

729
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,700
like there was a playing card
with a nail through its head, it

730
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:38,180
was found on her chair, and she
was fucking paranoid that that

731
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:40,380
would mean that she was gonna
die soon.

732
00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:43,380
She had, like all of these
visions of her dying.

733
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:46,060
She keeps applying that white
paint.

734
00:40:46,060 --> 00:40:52,680
Yeah, there's like more pain.
So she had so many like

735
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:57,400
emotional and physical issues
that escalated so much so that

736
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,920
she had took to standing, only
standing in her like bed

737
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,480
chamber.
She would not sit down.

738
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,000
She stood for 15 hours straight
before she collapsed on the

739
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,520
floor and her ladies in waiting
covered the whole floor and and

740
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,350
cushions.
She was convinced that if she

741
00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:18,070
sat down or like laid down she
would die, which is why she

742
00:41:18,070 --> 00:41:20,510
would like she was stood up for
15 hours straight.

743
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:27,190
So she's she laid down and she
could not talk for four fucking

744
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:30,790
days, just laying on the ground.
And then they finally moved her

745
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:32,830
into the bed.
They could finally actually get

746
00:41:32,830 --> 00:41:37,670
her to calm down.
She she ended up not really

747
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:42,280
having a plan, but another thing
that she had felt was there's

748
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,040
this ring that she wore that
signified her chastity and her

749
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,240
like marriage to the the
country, like her virginal

750
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:54,200
Queens stuff.
She believed that if she removed

751
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,680
that ring she would die.
Like it was she was going to

752
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,840
die.
So she never removed the fucking

753
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,760
ring and like skin grew around
it and stuff.

754
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,760
Sure enough, yeah.
Isn't that disgusting?

755
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,520
Gross.
It's so gross.

756
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,560
Yeah, she would not because she
got older and like, you know,

757
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,000
wrinkler or whatever.
Who?

758
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Who did who?
Wait, who is The Who does?

759
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Who's doing?
Who's in Barbie?

760
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Who stars in Barbie, Margot,
Robbie.

761
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:26,120
She did a movie where she played
Queen Elizabeth the 1st and her

762
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,000
sister.
Queen of Scots.

763
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,840
Queen of Scots was another
actress.

764
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,160
I can't remember her name.
And I remember it's all starting

765
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,120
to come back to me like things
that you're saying like these

766
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:45,760
kind of these weird behaviors
and she gross skin and gross

767
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,280
fucking skin.
Like she like, just.

768
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,000
I think that you could even do a
podcast just on her beauty

769
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,440
regiment at that time because it
was so fucked up.

770
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:59,700
But she ends up dying on the
24th of March 1603 and she was

771
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:02,820
actually 69.
I thought it was 7069.

772
00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:11,620
Virgin Queen, my ass.
So I don't know.

773
00:43:11,620 --> 00:43:13,980
I think that there was something
up with these.

774
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:16,500
Both of these people, they're
genetically related to each

775
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:18,140
other.
The fact that they lived

776
00:43:18,140 --> 00:43:22,160
through, I mean literally
painting fucking poison on your

777
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,360
face.
I mean consuming it, having like

778
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,320
open sores your entire fucking
life.

779
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,600
Like these people were made out
of something stronger.

780
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,000
And whatever it is, I don't care
how many babies it takes me.

781
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,640
To get it.
But I will.

782
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,840
I'm gonna find.
I fucking wonder.

783
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,320
Yeah, it's insane.
Imagine people.

784
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,720
Well, you wouldn't nowadays, but
imagine you you can't correlate

785
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:47,640
the amount of pain and
suffering.

786
00:43:48,260 --> 00:43:52,420
That they hollerated.
Oh yeah, compared to today.

787
00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:56,620
I mean, it's you can't even.
It's unfathomable when we never

788
00:43:56,620 --> 00:43:58,020
talk about it, right?
OK, we don't.

789
00:43:58,020 --> 00:44:02,220
Even just not having heat and
air conditioning and a castle.

790
00:44:02,460 --> 00:44:06,540
I would be on the verge and like
that was their luxury, was like

791
00:44:06,580 --> 00:44:09,020
the castle with the cold damp
walls.

792
00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:11,860
And like there was no like
laundry machine to give you hot

793
00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:14,660
towels.
You know, like even that alone.

794
00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:17,620
And then ah, like they didn't
have pain meds back then.

795
00:44:17,620 --> 00:44:19,420
No.
Yeah, they had wine.

796
00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:22,540
Yeah.
No way that was like cooked in a

797
00:44:22,540 --> 00:44:24,300
lead basket to.
Make it.

798
00:44:24,340 --> 00:44:27,740
Sweet.
And no Snickers to Curb Your

799
00:44:27,740 --> 00:44:29,700
hangriness, right?
Right.

800
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,180
I mean just all the things that
you think you know, it takes for

801
00:44:32,180 --> 00:44:33,620
granted.
Like, I'm so messed up in the

802
00:44:33,620 --> 00:44:34,660
head.
You were like, oh, she was so

803
00:44:34,660 --> 00:44:36,060
sad.
She was pacing the halls.

804
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:37,940
I'm like, why not get in bed and
watch TikTok?

805
00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:39,820
And then I'm like, oh, right,
Like, that's what you do when

806
00:44:39,820 --> 00:44:41,820
you're depressed back then.
That's like the only thing you

807
00:44:41,820 --> 00:44:45,300
can do is wander the halls.
You wander ghost like a ghostly

808
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:48,060
apparition.
Yes, Ghostly spook.

809
00:44:48,260 --> 00:44:50,220
Go around your frowns, yeah?
Real.

810
00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:53,180
Totally.
So that's kind of my tutor death

811
00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:55,820
story.
That was some crazy shit, but

812
00:44:55,820 --> 00:44:57,420
this.
Really makes me wanna watch the

813
00:44:57,420 --> 00:44:59,500
tutors.
Or like a YouTube video about

814
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:01,620
how the tutors are related to
Game of Thrones.

815
00:45:01,620 --> 00:45:04,020
Or all of these different?
Stories.

816
00:45:04,020 --> 00:45:06,540
Because I know that a lot of
different, like TV shows and

817
00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:08,380
movies have been based on this,
yeah.

818
00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:10,660
Have you guys seen that movie
that was talking about with

819
00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:12,620
Margot?
I've seen clips of it because I

820
00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:15,220
was like, how do they make
Margot Robbie like, look like

821
00:45:15,220 --> 00:45:16,380
that?
Yeah, you know, Yeah.

822
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:18,340
No, you should watch it.
Does she look ugly?

823
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:21,020
Well, Margot Robbie's hard to
make her look.

824
00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:24,260
No, she's so beautiful.
But you know, you do enough to

825
00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:26,340
make her look.
She's got like, the powdered

826
00:45:26,340 --> 00:45:28,060
face, right?
Like the Cool, Yeah, the.

827
00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:30,580
Hair up to the sky?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

828
00:45:31,230 --> 00:45:33,230
I'll have to watch it.
Although I never, I never watch

829
00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:34,990
movies, so.
You don't.

830
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:38,590
Know do what I do and find a
TikTok account that broke the

831
00:45:38,590 --> 00:45:41,830
movie down into 60 portions.
And then you just scroll through

832
00:45:41,830 --> 00:45:43,910
and you watch all 60 portions
and you're like, I do that.

833
00:45:44,030 --> 00:45:45,150
A film buff.
Literally.

834
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:50,070
Yeah, I used to do it.
I think I have no patience to

835
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:51,470
watch a movie anymore, so I'm
just.

836
00:45:51,470 --> 00:45:52,630
Gonna do that.
Good call.

837
00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:54,910
Yeah, They seem to be lasting
longer and longer.

838
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:57,270
Well, thank you so much for
being on the podcast, Shannon.

839
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:58,310
Thank.
You for?

840
00:45:58,430 --> 00:46:00,870
Oh my God.
Like I I just feel like every

841
00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:02,270
time I.
Your episodes I got so much

842
00:46:02,270 --> 00:46:07,430
knowledge but also a giggle.
Thank you.

843
00:46:03,950 --> 00:46:06,150
Like I love everything you guys
are doing.

844
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:09,270
Thanks for having.
So tell anyone who's listening

845
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:11,630
where they can find you what
you're doing, what you're up to.

846
00:46:11,710 --> 00:46:15,470
The podcast I host is called
Fluently Forward, where big on

847
00:46:15,470 --> 00:46:19,070
TikTok Instagram also at
Fluently Forward and you guys

848
00:46:19,070 --> 00:46:22,190
are going to be on for an
episode all about castration.

849
00:46:22,270 --> 00:46:23,550
Yeah.
Really.

850
00:46:23,790 --> 00:46:28,190
Looking forward to hear you,
yes.

851
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:33,310
Well, thank you.
Yeah.

852
00:46:33,310 --> 00:46:34,470
Thanks.
Again, thank you guys.

853
00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:35,310
Pleasure.
Yes.

854
00:46:35,590 --> 00:46:37,910
And we'll see you next week.
Yeah.

855
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:39,310
OK.
On the flip side.

856
00:46:39,310 --> 00:46:40,310
Thanks, bye.
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