The Spirits of Flight 401

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Hello, bizarre story.
Junkies, if you're listening

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right now you are tuned into the
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the strange, the Absurd, the
unknown, and things that are

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bizarre AF, I'm Kevin and I'll
be your host for today's

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episode.
Keep an open mind keep a

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skeptical year, but keep
listening to the facts.

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As we take you on our newest
Journey, the spirits of Flight

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401
Hey everyone.

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As always and I wouldn't have it
any other way.

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My co-host Des with the mostest
is Alicia.

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Hey, girlfriend.
Hey, how are you doing, babe?

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You know what I'm doing?
Great, especially today.

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I think that one cocktail in
hand, oh my gosh, yes, let us

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have a, there we go.
You can see it there we got,

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which is wait, there you go.
Hmm, Witches, Brew, which is

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broke.
That's what we're drinking

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today.
I'm super stars doing this.

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Yeah, I'm great.
I am ready for this podcast.

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Have my like flight stewardess.
Perfect.

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Pop on my God.
So I'm really stoked to hear.

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Why didn't I put on my stupid?
Captain's uniform, do you have

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one?
I have an Air Force.

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I should put my hair for his
next time.

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Great.
So um, this story that we're

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going to talk about.
Hmm, it's about bad luck and

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tragedy, cover-ups and
conspiracy and spirits, and

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ghosts?
That's like everything we

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decided to Hope.
Hurry of of goodness.

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I've got good bizarre as fuck
this shit.

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So you ready for Some ghostly
goulash.

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I was born ready, okay?
So in December of this year, it

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will actually be 50 years since
this plane crash of Eastern

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flight 4150.
This is the 50th Anniversary

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this year this year.
Wow.

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And so I'm going to take you
through the events that happened

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before the leading, the kind of
the before, the flight during

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the flight and then the
disastrous crash of the flight

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and then we're going to Talk
about things that have happened

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after the crash.
So we're going to take a full.

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It's the whole story from of
like history involving involving

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this.
Yes, it's going to be beginning

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to end.
Okay, yeah.

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And we're going to touch on,
like I said, all kinds of little

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pieces of the things.
We love to talk about.

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Yeah, because, you know, just
just hearing about it like, the

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Eastern Airlines.
I've never heard of Eastern

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Airlines.
You haven't?

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No, oh my God.
I feel so old.

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Fuck me.
So Eastern Airlines was.

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Yeah.
Clearly before your hearts time.

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God damn it.
Well, you know what?

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Kevin I would never guess it
was, it was during your time

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because you look so bless your
heart.

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But what is, is, is it was a
huge, like, major commercial

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airline.
There was yes, like any like

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Southwest or yeah, whatever.
Starry Night States.

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Yeah.
Well, I wasn't.

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Yeah, I was a union us.
Airline.

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I can't remember where they flew
predominantly if it was actually

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Eastern.
You know like these codes?

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Yeah, I think I was even a
western Airlines.

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I'm trying to think back.
I think there might have been

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okay.
Maybe they merged and became

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like maybe out west maybe.
Oh, yeah that's funny.

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Southwest Airlines Northwest.
Yeah, I'm sorry.

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I just have to continue my CI.
This is look at this hair.

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That is not hair.
Oh hey.

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Nobody know what that's from it.
Seems like there was mustering a

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ghoul sitting in here, some kind
of dead cool dad, cool thing

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with like amazing hair.
Okay, so mmm, this happens.

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So is 50 years.
So the 72 names, samito and so

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on August, 18th, 1972 to be
specific.

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There was a Lockheed and they
call them l-1011.

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TriStar ours, that's the type of
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Hmm.
And it was delivered to What was

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then a very popular airline
Eastern Airlines.

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This aircraft was actually the
tenth TriStar to be delivered to

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that company.
Okay.

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They had ordered a kind of
athlete right now.

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This are this particular
aircraft was going to be the one

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that would support the new
york-jfk to Miami route.

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Okay, Miss varies.
It was going to be for that

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route now on Friday.
December 29, 1972.

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This Eastern flight 401 boarded,
it taxied, it departed, all

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without incident, everything was
normal, 9:20 in the evening, on

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Eastern time.
It was going to fly to Miami.

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There were a hundred and sixty
three passengers on board and 13

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flight crew.
Okay, well it's a pretty 13

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flight crew.
That's a pretty that's a big

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crew.
Well this was a fancy Dancy

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state of the art at the time
aircraft.

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Wow.
Like it was the bomb so they Not

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packed in like sardines, like we
are and I'm sure anyone tear

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lights her.
What I did.

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You go online.
You can actually see some of the

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maps of the, of the interior and
it looked pretty cozy.

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I'm not cozy like but like
comfortable.

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Yeah, you're comfortable.
You probably got dressed before

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you got on the flight and yoga
pants, right?

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Your tweets was camel toe and
out through your mouth.

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Okay.
So the flight was under the

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command of Captain, Robert Loft,
who was 55, he was a veteran

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pilot, he was ranked actually
50th and seniority Stern.

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So he had, you know, really lot
of experience.

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He had been with the airline 32
years over 2,900 hours of flight

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time and on this particular
aircraft, he had over two

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hundred and eighty hours so I
figure two hours of flat, I mean

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that's a hundred and some odd
flights.

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I mean, tons of expect Super
experienced.

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His flight crew was first
officer Albert Stockdale, he was

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39.
He had over fifty eight hundred

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hours of flying experience and
306 of them.

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On this particular aircraft, all
very experienced people.

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There was a flight engineer.
Donald repo, he was 51.

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He had 1500 hours of flight
experience in 53 hours on this

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particular l-1011.
Okay.

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Now, there was actually a
Company employee on this flight.

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He was a technical Sir, Angelo
doneto, he was 47, but he was

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actually Dead Heading to Miami.
Hmm, and for those who aren't in

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the airline business,
deadheading is the practice of

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an Airline employee, who's
flying free of charge on a

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normal passenger trips so that
they can be at the right place

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at the right time to start their
shift.

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That's what deadheading is
called and Angela was on this

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particular flight.
Going to Miami to start going to

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be starting his shift.
I believe the next day.

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Flight, totally routine.
Everything was totally redeemed.

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It's about 11:30 to in the
evening and they're starting to

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prepare for their Final Approach
to Miami.

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So after the, after they lower
the, the landing gear, the first

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officer stock, he'll notice that
the indicator that confirms that

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the landing gear is down, was
not illuminated.

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Now the problem with planes back
then is that everything was

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analog like like it was
literally light bulbs behind a

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plastic window.
Yeah.

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Right, huh?
Like thank God.

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We don't do that anymore, but
this, the bulb for that.

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At particular indicator, come to
find out later was just burnt

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out.
So when they lowered the landing

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gear it lowered but that little
light was burnt out.

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So it didn't say I'm down,
right?

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So they're thinking they're like
okay the landing gear is not

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going down fuck and when and
they're smart enough to go,

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okay, well is it just the bulb?
Okay, so they're like trying to

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take it out and go you know
trying to disassemble the

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dashboard lights going on.
Yes.

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People are in the back like, oh
yeah, I can, I get another car

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and the flight Crews like
exactly.

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Okay.
I have a question.

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Yes.
Yeah.

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So we have these light bulbs
testers for?

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I don't know.
Christmas lights so.

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Wouldn't you think that?
Yeah.

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Were you like, you put it in
there?

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Wouldn't you think that they
would have, like some kind of

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tester in the cockpit?
But could you imagine doing that

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on every light bulb, number one?
But number two, it was not just

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a matter of like popping off the
Little plastic thing, it was

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like an ordeal apparently stupid
design.

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Yeah, it's really stupid design,
especially, especially when

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something that can be such a
huge deal with.

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Like, we can't land the plane,
clearly, we're talking about

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clearly a big deal.
And the other thing is that

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today they can just push a
little button and look at a

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camera that's mounted at the
bottom, the plane go.

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You had a landing gears down.
They didn't have that either.

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Yeah, just like like when were
backing up in our cars?

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You have a camera.
We can see what's behind US,

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senator.
Oh my God, right?

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So the pilots are cycling, the
landing gear repeatedly, trying

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to go.
Okay?

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Is it?
It's not going down, it's not

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going down.
Well, maybe it is going down,

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but we just don't know it's
going.

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That's so they're, you know,
they're concerned, right?

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Right.
Right, right.

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We may not have landing gear.
We have to just slide right on

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it.
I didn't dump my God.

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So, Captain lap tells the tower
at this point that they're going

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to discontinue their approach,
clearly.

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We potentially have no landing
gear.

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So we're just gonna go ahead and
not loan and right now, so they

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said go into a holding pattern.
Oh, okay.

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So they make them do that whole
loop de loop and so they have

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them to the controller says yes.
Go to 2,000 feet and you're

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gonna like, do your little hold
over the Everglades.

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Yes, okay.
Over the Everglades, over the

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Everglades.
Mmm.

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So the captain tells officer
repo to go down to the avionics

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Bay, which is beneath the flight
deck to and they had a little

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small port hole that they could
like, look, they could go and

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they can see the landing gear.
Oh, but they had to go down

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under the plane and look through
the little hole.

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No.
Oh so like you see like the

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whole flight crew like walk back
there.

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Like You're like, what the fuck
is going on?

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That's why I think you could get
you actually get.

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Yes, I can't remember if it was.
Yeah, I don't know if that's, if

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you get to it from the front of
the plane of the back of the

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plane, either way, it's not a
promise.

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Yeah, I think I'm right.
Okay.

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So then Captain laughs instructs
first officer stock held to put

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the plane into autopilot so that
they can like focus on the

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landing gear.
Like, we can't fly the plane and

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figure out what the f is going
on.

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So you will put the plane on
autopilot.

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You go down and look at the
little hole in the bottom of the

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plane, and we're going to try to
maybe pop this thing off and see

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if it's a bulb or you know what?
I'm going to try to figure it

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out, so the actual problem.
It's nice, right?

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So for the next 80 seconds from
the moment, he from that point,

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the plane flies, At the main
that the level two thousand

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feet, it then drops 100 feet,
which is about 30 meters.

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And then again, flu level for
about two more minutes and at

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that point it starts to descend
very gradually but they're not

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aware that it is descending, but
there's so much violence aren't

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they're so focused on trying to
figure out the landing gear,

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they don't realize that the
plane is very slowly descending

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ooooo.
Oh, no, because they have it on

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autopilot.
They're like, we're good.

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It's on.
I don't have an autopilot.

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So it's like it's like when
you're driving and you're, you

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have it on cruise control and
maybe you're not, you know,

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you're not controlling the
actual steering wheel or

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whatever.
Yeah.

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Like what - is 11:30 at night so
it is Pitch.

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Black.
Oh it's super dark so it's all

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over the Everglades.
There's no homes.

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Oh yeah.
There's no homes.

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There's no light.
There's nothing to see that

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you're getting snow ideas during
no idea.

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And I'm not looking at the
altitude at the altimeter.

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I think it's called I'm focused
on getting this fucking panel

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off of this board so I can
figure out if I have landing

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gear, right, right.
Because Landing like, yeah, it's

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yes.
You're like Roger okay.

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Roger but also I don't know,
isn't there a fucking co-pilot?

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You told me there is a co-pilot
there.

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Yeah.
Like so the captain and the

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copilot or front trying to focus
on the landing gear, while it's

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not the point of having a
co-pilot, well, the engineers

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downstairs, looking through the
hole.

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But why do they both need to be
concentrated on whether or not

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the landing gear?
Like because ones like sure to

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the manual going, okay?
The other ones trying to get the

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thing off of the, the the thing
off of the bulb, the other ones

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try.
I mean there's just a lot It

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happened and also their on
autopilot.

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So it's never fucked up before,
this is really common legging.

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Like right, we're just on online
flat at 2,000 feet and just

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we're just flying flat at 2,000
feet.

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I don't need to care.
I don't need to worry about

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that.
Okay, sorry, I'm just I'm just

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feeling this happening.
Like, it's like my worst time,

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exactly.
Okay.

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So It continues to descend over
the next few minutes.

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Until finally, his altitude
warning located under the

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engineers.
Work station goes off saying

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your low, but uh-oh, Engineers
down under the fucking right

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plane.
So they don't see this warning

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because it's under the engineers
station.

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And well, he's downstairs and
they don't hear anything.

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Because this is an old plane.
Yeah.

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It's not like it's not like it's
Yup.

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Yes.
I like some big monitors.

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Yeah, yeah.
Like FYI you're getting close

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right.
It's only in one area on the

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area and he's not there.
Oh my God.

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So so the captain laughed tells
the first officer stalk Hill.

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Those two are up there to start
the 180-degree.

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Turn back to Miami because now
they're getting a ways out.

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So they need to start heading
back because if they're going to

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be doing the circling thing that
I want to get too far, right?

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So start the 180-degree turn and
to come back to the airport.

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So we tell them to do that.
That well when the first officer

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in order to do the turn, he has
to take the plane off of

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autopilot.
So when he takes it off of

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autopilot he's like Why does
that not say 2,000 feet and so

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are you back up?
Oh my God.

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And so this is the discrepancy.
He's like that doesn't say 2,000

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feet.
We were supposed to be at 2000

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feet this whole entire time and
so in actuality they're well

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below 250 feet shut.
Uh-huh.

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Uh-huh. 250 25 stories that is
like, so like you're right

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there.
It's, yeah, you're a ground

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right there.
You can't see anything because

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you're also over the Everglades.
Yeah, freaking thing.

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Okay, so they're Godot.
I'm gonna play you an audio

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clip, okay?
And this audio clip is the

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moment that Captain Loft tells
officer Stock Hill to start the

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180-degree turn.
And when I start playing this,

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it is that moment until the end,
the end the end.

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Okay.
Okay.

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This is hard, here we go.
Mmm, okay, 180.

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Hey, we did some of the altitude
here.

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What?
We're still a 2000, right?

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What's Happening Here?
Hey, what's happening here?

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Beats.
How fast it happened.

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Holy shit.
That's how fast it I'm sitting.

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I'm sitting and hopefully first
class.

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Uh-huh.
Fucking drinking my cocktail and

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you don't know nothing, you
know, nothing which you kind of

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go.
Okay, well that was at least

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you're not panicking.
But we're going to talk about.

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There were a lot of survivors,
shut up.

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Okay.
Okay, so that happened.

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How fast were they going again?
Where they were going, 227 miles

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an hour fast fast.
Okay, I mean, not as fast when

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you're flying.
You're like 500.

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I think up there but you're
still going 227 miles announce

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still?
Yeah, it's a still pretty fast.

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So that was about 19 miles at
the end of the actual Runway

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because they were going to do
the U-turn to come back, right?

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Um, so with the aircraft and
mid-turn because he had had

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them, he told them to go into
the 180-degree turn when he

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turns.
So, the first thing that hits is

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the Nose hail the tail, right?
So they're turning yes.

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Oh, that's right, right.
So then the tail hits the first

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and then the left engine and
then the landing gear and then

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the nose and so soon as the nose
hit, it just started to Tumble

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and disintegrated over the heart
because this yeah, this is going

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so fast.
It just went somersaulting.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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I mean, it was, I mean yeah.
Just Disintegrating.

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Splintering apart all over.
Come the place.

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A passenger by the name of Ron
and Vin Tino is on this flight.

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And he starts to come to me.
He's waking up.

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And he's finally getting his
bearings and he's kind of

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becoming conscious when he
discovers he's sitting in his

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chair, the seat belt, fastened
sitting in a swamp.

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No, hahaha upright, completely
naked shut he's completely

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naked.
Completely butt-ass naked, talk

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about a rude.
Awakening odd dead silent.

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Yeah, cause you're so here's
nothing like nothing just you

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could hear a pin drop, he says
my God and he starts to feel

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pain.
So now he's his Rib was hurting.

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He's got blood kind of dripping
down his head.

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Yeah, and he's looking around
and he sees all the wreckage and

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in his his he quotes.
His the first thing he says is,

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oh my God, we've crashed He just
realized now he suddenly

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realized butt-ass naked in this
chair.

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Yikes.
So definitely weird.

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I mean, yeah.
That's like that's like what

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nightmares are made out of like,
that's what you think that's

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your giant snowball.
Yes, exactly.

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Totally.
It's like, it's like, you wake

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up from it and you're like, was
I, was he sleeping?

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Is it?
When you actually see me know,

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oh, Hugh know, so he was knocked
out.

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He knocked out right?
Yeah.

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Trying to put the pieces
together when you wake up like

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that, you're like confusing.
Oh my God.

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But he's still how weird?
How weird would that be?

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If you're like sitting?
You're like, okay, I'm still

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seated naked and seatbelt, I
must not wind up naked in a

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swamp.
Totally naked.

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I mean not to be crude or rude
or whatever but like the

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mosquito bites, alligator.
Yeah.

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I guess I'll use.
I'm like, I'm like the mosquito

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bites would be off.
Because how long the question

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is, like, how long was he?
Unconscious seconds?

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Okay.
So so he woke up pretty quickly

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after.
Yes, it happened.

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Yes.
And he was sitting, was he like

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submerged and?
Yes.

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Yes.
Okay.

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It was like, I don't think, I
think I think it was walks.

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I think, at one point, he said,
when I read his interview, he

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said it was chin.
Deep chin, deep ocean, deep.

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Your like, oh, I'm in this, like
weird water.

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Yeah, maybe cold or whatever?
Shock shock to your so shocked.

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Yeah fuck.
And you can't hear anything

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manually?
Hurry.

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I did take a flight.
I did just crash.

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Wow!
So 101 people died that night.

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The deceased comprised of three
of the four cockpit crew.

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Oh my God!
Two of the ten flight attendants

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and 96 of the 163 passengers.
So there were at least 75

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survivors.
Wow.

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Of that monstrosity of a crash.
And just thinking about that

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like you you wake up even if
you're like on like you're in a

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flight, you wake up, you knew
that you were on, you know,

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you're heading to Miami or
whatever going to party it up

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because that's what is great
about going to Miami watching

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all the cool like outfits and
shit.

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So you're there and then you
wake up it's not like you have

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like a captain or like the whole
flight crew is like hey you

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know, Our systems got fucked up.
This is what happened, you are

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basically alone, not only that
looking around, I'm sure that

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it's pitch-black.
It's not like you have a cell

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phone, like you might well, even
if he did have a pocket, his

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pockets gone.
Anyway.

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Well not and will end on a 1979
not-not-not 1979.

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So it's like you don't have a
flashlight with you.

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That's the other thing.
They did not have flashlights.

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That wasn't a mandatory piece of
equipment on airlines back then.

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So, not even the flight
attendants had a flashlight.

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So, you're in a fucking swamp,
Everglades and things like a few

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things on fire smoldering.
Really good wreckage everywhere.

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Yeah.
And then you start hearing

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people moaning.
Yeah.

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Screaming potentially.
I mean.

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Come on.
You're dying dying.

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Yeah, exactly.
So due to the some of the

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quick-thinking actions of those
flight attendants and despite

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their actual own injuries, And a
lot of them were credited with

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helping the passengers actually
to survive.

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Wow, they also quickly assess
the situation and began yelling

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out to the other survivors.
Like, if you have a, because you

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could smoke on planes and stuff
like that, oh yeah, that's real.

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Like, do not like your fucking
lighter because there's flight

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fuel everywhere.
Oh, I would never think about

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that.
They did instantly and said, do

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you hear us?
Don't light, you know, do not

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strike matches or light your
light?

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Or yeah, don't tell her.
We would then all die.

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Fuck yeah, the smart smart.
Can we give them gold medal at

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all?
Like, yeah.

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Okay.
So all those flight attendants

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who, you know, deal with all the
dumb bullshit, right?

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We are giving you guys official
gold standard hero Metals.

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I need we need.
So I have the dumbass you crazy

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award.
Oh, yeah.

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But these, we need to come up
with a hero award.

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You, you you aren't you fuck?
Can Superstar.

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00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:57,400
Yeah.
Super Star Wars.

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Yeah, I'll come up with that
next time.

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Okay?
So So, they did some really cool

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things.
So they tried to calm the

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survivors down and they started
singing Christmas carols to try

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to keep everyone calm, what a
great keeping up people's hopes,

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just doing all the you know, the
good things that you would hope

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that they would do.
Like I said mentioned before

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flashlights, weren't part of
that equipment and on the 10th

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the time.
So they had no light they had no

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source of light.
So I do a lot of this in the

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dark so you're probably saying
that Marco Polo Marco.

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Paula.
Oh my God.

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00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,000
Alright, so if of the cockpit
crew, only the flight engineer

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repo, the guy who they sent down
to the electronics Bay, right?

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He was the one that survived the
initial crash.

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He did end up passing in the
hospital but he did not.

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He didn't die instantly along
with that technical officer than

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a do who I told you about was
deadheading.

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Hmm.
So he actually had gone down

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into the electrical.
They come to find out with

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officer repo to help him.
Oh, they we didn't know that at

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00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:12,500
the time, but they knew that he
was on the plane.

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And so he had asked him to come
down and help him, you know?

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And he is conscious.
So, yeah, thank God.

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We have someone, right.
Exactly.

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So, the so Stock Hill, who was
the copilot, he was

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unfortunately was killed on
impact.

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Captain Loft died in the
wreckage of the flight deck

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before he could be transported
to the hospital.

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So he didn't die instantly.
Unfortunately, kind of roof.

457
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,700
Yeah, that's awful.
And repo was evacuated to the

458
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:51,100
hospital like I said, but he
also, later died.

459
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:53,200
Do we know if they were
conscious?

460
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:58,600
Yes, I think the captain.
Oh, God was sucks.

461
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:03,200
That totally sucks.
I hope, I guess I wonder if he

462
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,300
was Able to remember what was
going on in that moment and and

463
00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:11,400
say like, hey, this is what
happened, this is where we're

464
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,500
at.
Maybe like another question, I

465
00:27:13,508 --> 00:27:17,200
guess I have is in the 1970s or
they have like an SOS, were they

466
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,800
able to?
Because obviously, like the the,

467
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:25,600
what's it called, the people who
are white control my control,

468
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,800
they knew that this flight was
all of a sudden they knew and

469
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,300
they could see it descending
right, because, right?

470
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,500
Yes.
And yeah, so they knew what had

471
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,200
happened and then it goes off of
radar.

472
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800
So then use clearly something
was wrong, which is, I think how

473
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:45,000
they got help pretty quickly,
right God.

474
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Yeah.
So so repo is have a key to the

475
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,500
hospital.
He later died from his injuries.

476
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,600
The NATO was the Lone Survivor
of that for deck flight crew,

477
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,800
and he ultimately recovered from
all of his physical injuries,

478
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,900
talk about guilt.
How could you imagine I could

479
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:06,800
not Honestly, I really truly
heartbreaking.

480
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:09,500
You would think, honestly, I
would think that he would have

481
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:13,100
died if you were in like the not
the whole or like the basement

482
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:14,400
of the ship.
Yeah.

483
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,100
The what do they call it?
The something under the flight

484
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:18,800
deck.
Yeah.

485
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,000
Whatever.
That was down there and we're

486
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,200
going to call it the hall.
Okay.

487
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,500
The whole but the whole like the
whole of the ship like you would

488
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,200
think that that makes impact.
But I mean I guess the way that

489
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,300
it fell, yeah.
Because remember, it was doing

490
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:34,000
this whole side turning and so
he hit kind of on the Side, I

491
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200
would never guess that, you
know.

492
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:39,400
Yeah, I mean, I would know you
would think, I don't know.

493
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,200
That's some fucked.
Okay.

494
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,700
That dude has some kind of Lucky
clovers.

495
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:47,800
Whatever it was not his time
now.

496
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,200
No, chances are not a diet belt,
not know.

497
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,300
Yeah, we just like open into
this.

498
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,400
Place is not meant for human
beings to be when you fly it.

499
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,800
Like, and he's still alive so
alive.

500
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Wow.
Yes. so, The investigation

501
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,700
discovered that the autopilot
had been inverted, Lee switched

502
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:14,200
from altitude, hold to what they
call control wheel steering CWS

503
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,600
in Pitch mode.
So in this mode, once the pilot

504
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,200
releases pressure on the Yoke,
which is the the thing that they

505
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:26,000
do the autopilot remains in that
pitch of that altitude of the

506
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,600
aircraft until it's moved again.
And they think what happened is

507
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,700
that the captain?
We know when they were talking

508
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:36,300
or moving or doing whatever he
kind of tapped The yellow is

509
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:38,600
leaning into it, right?
I think it's just maybe he

510
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,200
tapped, you know, forward or
something and he that's what

511
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,600
caused it to go poop.
Okay, so now I'm going to start

512
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,200
descending so that's what
autopilot just kept he so it

513
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,100
took whatever that command was
and just kept with it.

514
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,500
Okay.
Why the fuck?

515
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,700
I mean, thank God.
We're not on flights like this

516
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:58,100
and like our flights are by and
large computers just flying us.

517
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,300
Totally, you know, like my Tesla
I mean yes, they've gotten so

518
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:04,700
far that it's smart enough to
go.

519
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:07,600
I'm not going to acknowledge
your TAP.

520
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:10,800
Yeah.
Like, you're fucking not paying

521
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,700
attention example, a little
drunk.

522
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,200
But you know what I think is
really interesting about that is

523
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,200
like, one, the Precedence that
it could like one.

524
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,200
Why the fuck is that?
Even an option for a plane

525
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,600
today?
I'm like, in the ground.

526
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,000
It makes zero sense.
Why that would even be something

527
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,600
that would be useful in Flight.
I know who knows, right.

528
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,000
I mean, we're here.
We're here.

529
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:34,900
What?
However, many years later.

530
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,800
Right?
Thankfully, it's no longer a

531
00:30:36,808 --> 00:30:38,000
thing.
Probably, right.

532
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Exactly.
You have to learn those things.

533
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Unfortunately, the terrible hard
way.

534
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,800
So So like yeah, as I said that
slight pressure forward on that,

535
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,200
stick would have caused that
aircraft to enter that slow

536
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,000
descent.
And again, it was a CWS system

537
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,600
is what they called it and so
that's what happened and it's so

538
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,800
I didn't warn them that it was
doing it because it is assumed

539
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,000
that was intentional.
The captain wanted them to do

540
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,900
that, right?
As you would as well, huh?

541
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,800
So in an effort to save money.
Hmm.

542
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:17,500
Eastern Airlines salvages And
kept as many of those valuable

543
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,600
components as the airplane, as
they could for spare parts, for

544
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,700
shot Lanes.
So net, they didn't keep

545
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:34,000
anything that was no, it was If
it had any exactly, if I was a

546
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,200
small dent, will keep it.
It's like a cat, like, when

547
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,200
you're going grocery shopping,
you get like a dent.

548
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,300
It like it.
Like in the canned foods to sit

549
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:43,100
down.
Oh, it's just a dent, it's fine,

550
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,900
it's not gonna hurt.
You can't cause cancer.

551
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:46,700
Like, that's totally cool.
It's the rest.

552
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:51,100
That kills you exactly.
It's don't worry about it.

553
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:54,100
Botulism, it's totally fine.
Like, yeah, not a thing.

554
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,000
You did get it 30% off.
Right now.

555
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,900
Exactly are saving money. 30%
off your botulism where we are.

556
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:04,500
Yeah.
We are approaching recession, so

557
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,500
every penny counts.
Exactly.

558
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,000
Oh my God, Eastern Airlines.
Good guy, right?

559
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,400
So they want to keep these
parts.

560
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,600
And so when they build new
planes, the wool will just use

561
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,800
these parts that have just not
really, even been used because

562
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,100
it's a brand new plane and so
we're just going to use that

563
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:26,000
part for them the money.
Cheap motherfuckers.

564
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,300
So they claim Eastern claims
that these Airlines, these

565
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:32,800
airplanes were top of the line
where these are the guys like

566
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,900
the latest and greatest of their
plans.

567
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:38,600
So that shit was super expensive
and so like we're trying to save

568
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:42,800
money so that the passengers
save money and save mine

569
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,700
Comfort, y'all don't, thank you.
Okay, if there's anything, if

570
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,900
I'm flying fucking whatever, I
don't care if I'm in coach I

571
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,800
don't care if I'm so strapped to
the side of the fucking plane or

572
00:32:53,808 --> 00:32:58,200
in first Like I would prefer
like, like, give me give me

573
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,600
working parts that have not been
in a, in a crystal accident that

574
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,400
big really appreciated.
Oh yes, thank you.

575
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,900
So they just so they say, if
they could recover, the these

576
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:13,900
expensive parts and restore them
and clean them up and make them,

577
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:17,600
you know, certified worthiness,
then you know, it's saves

578
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,600
everyone in the long run.
It's a good, it's a good thing.

579
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,100
Yes.
So sure enough, they did, in

580
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:27,600
fact, install many of these
salvage parts in other planes,

581
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,000
one example, they did is they
actually were, they were able to

582
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:38,000
salvage a, a full Galley and put
this gal whole Galley into this

583
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,900
particular plane did it have
blood from the from the previous

584
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:46,700
passengers know that cleat Tada
oh yeah I'm sure yeah sure it

585
00:33:46,708 --> 00:33:48,600
was nice and squeaky clean
making it.

586
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,500
They painted it over all the
blood, totally bones.

587
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,700
And shit.
So Eastern has never been

588
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:58,900
transparent with this
information so it's difficult to

589
00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:02,000
understand to get the full scope
of actually what they did

590
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,100
replace and what they did
Salvage.

591
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,300
But it's been very proven that
they did do it just people,

592
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:15,699
they're just not ful, fully goes
no dressed exactly what they did

593
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:17,199
and his where they did it the
other.

594
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,699
Like remember that light bulb
that went out?

595
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,000
That's what we did.
Salvage that light bulb?

596
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,100
No, no, the light bulb has been
salvaged.

597
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,600
We just reworks the wire and the
fucking something else faulty.

598
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,500
Like, no wonder why that fucking
light bulb on a brand, new plane

599
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:33,600
wasn't working there.
Probably cutting Corners

600
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,400
everywhere.
And that's, you know what's?

601
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,199
So fucked up about that?
That is no different than

602
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:42,500
flights today, whores or not
even planes.

603
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:46,900
Like, you see that shit all the
time when they try to pinch

604
00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:50,199
pennies cut Corners save money.
Oh, but it's Gonna Save Our

605
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,199
consumer in the long ago.
I'll save, ya know, then people

606
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,200
like you said, get botulism or
E.coli or whatever, I don't

607
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,600
know, died in a fucking plane
crash, what the fuck Jesus

608
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Christ.
So, Over the following months

609
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,300
and years story started
circulating that employees of

610
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:14,100
Eastern Airlines and the
numerous passengers had

611
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:18,500
reported, sightings of dead crew
members including Captain,

612
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:21,600
Robert Loft.
And Second Officer, Donald repo

613
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:28,700
aboard other L. 10/11 They're
literally reporting seeing them

614
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:33,700
on these other l-1011 s.
How could that be one?

615
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:38,700
Might ask.
Well, let's go into that.

616
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:41,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So first, I'm going to tell you

617
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,100
all of the different ghost
stories that people have talked

618
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:50,700
about here and I'm ready, okay?
The vice president of Eastern

619
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:53,700
Airlines, he boards, a flight
from New York.

620
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,400
He chats with a pilot on the
plane and he who assumed was a

621
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,600
pilot of a of the of this
particular flight.

622
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,200
He wasn't didn't know he's
chatting later after the fact he

623
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:15,100
recognized that the pilot he'd
been speaking to was Bob, shut

624
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:17,000
up.
What were they talking about?

625
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Do we have like any details as
far as that never went into

626
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,400
details about what they were
talking about?

627
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,300
But just that he was chatting up
with Bob like, oh yeah.

628
00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:28,800
You know.
How we have a yeah.

629
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,800
You like your like your job or
your cool.

630
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,000
Yeah.
Like where are you flying to you

631
00:36:32,008 --> 00:36:33,400
tomorrow?
Yeah.

632
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,300
Yeah.
Have you ever like I don't know.

633
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,800
Your class Miami.
Yeah.

634
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,600
You want to go on to a flight
Miami?

635
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,300
Go down with the ship.
Oh my God.

636
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,800
That is what.
That's what nightmares are made

637
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,500
of exactly.
You have this ghostly fucking

638
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:54,200
pilot who's like, you want to go
down with Ship with me and like,

639
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,900
no, Bob, nobody wants to go
down.

640
00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,400
No Bob, no, nobody wants to go
down with the ship.

641
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,500
That is an Antiquated fucking
thing.

642
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:04,800
No one wants to do.
And what we'll find out here in

643
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,500
a little bit is that Bob was
like, actually like not trying

644
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,500
to hot people, he was trying to
protect them.

645
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:18,900
He was raised, he was trying to
say you are on a planes that

646
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:22,800
have some used shit.
It was like he felt guilty, his

647
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,700
Spirit felt guilty.
Ah, so it's like he's trying to

648
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:27,500
prevent what happened?
Stop it.

649
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:33,100
Yes happen again and also it
was, you know, kind of his fault

650
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:35,800
potentially right now.
There was some negligence

651
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,400
involved.
Yes.

652
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,500
Like, he was leaning on the
actual, like, I don't know.

653
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:42,200
Steering.
Like, you one wouldn't think to

654
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,200
look at the altimeter when your
A autopilot but clearly that was

655
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,500
a human mistake.
Yes it was human error so he's

656
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,200
trying to potentially right?
The wrongs in order to lay

657
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,400
across over.
Yes that's the thing.

658
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:56,100
A lot of these Spirits were
stuck on this plane.

659
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:59,800
They could not go beyond.
Well they didn't even know that

660
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,500
they were dead.
Right?

661
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:03,600
Because it happened.
So you said 250 feet.

662
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,600
That's right. 25 stories.
Fucking done.

663
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,700
Boom.
How would you ever you would?

664
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:11,900
Never think you might not know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you might not

665
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:16,000
know.
Well, remember, Ron didn't know

666
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,200
he was in a plane crash until
after a few minutes, right?

667
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:22,100
Until he's like, you know, chest
deep and fucking swamp water.

668
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,000
That's right.
Yeah.

669
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,800
And thank God no.
I'm having some pain and these

670
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,200
flight attendants are saying,
don't let your fucking, and ya

671
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,900
think I'm weird waking up to
Silent Night.

672
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,500
Oh my God.
That is Swagman.

673
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:40,900
Yeah, it totally is.
So another time a captain was

674
00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:44,500
asked to check on a passenger In
First Class who was Was a pilot.

675
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:48,400
It was in a pilot's uniform and
the senior flight attendant said

676
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,100
that he was like days and
unresponsive and when spoken to,

677
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:55,900
he wasn't on the passenger list
and again, later the captain

678
00:38:55,900 --> 00:39:00,400
real recognized him as a bob.
Hey Bob, no!

679
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:08,300
The Bob Bob, the Bob, a flight
attendant on a New York flight

680
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:11,300
to Miami.
She opened up an overhead Locker

681
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:16,100
because I've been because the
Had wanted something she sobbed

682
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:18,500
Bob's head.
Shut the fuck up.

683
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,100
Yeah.
Like this is so so much so that

684
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:23,400
she flew back into the passenger
seat because it scared her so

685
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,400
much because she, I literally
Saw Head.

686
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Dude.
This is like Beetlejuice.

687
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:31,500
Yeah, totally.
This is like Beetlejuice.

688
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:32,700
Yeah.
Beetlejuice beat it.

689
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:39,400
Bob bob bob and you fucking so
on another flight, a flight

690
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,200
attendant saw Dawn's face on the
oven door and like night galley.

691
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:49,600
So she called to crew in to see
what she had witnessed to make

692
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,900
to make sure that she wasn't
like crazy and they saw him.

693
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:58,100
And then and he said and he
said, watch out for the fire on

694
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:00,900
this plane.
What?

695
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:05,400
And on the returning flight that
engine on that plane failed and

696
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,300
had to be shut down before it
caught fire.

697
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,500
What the fuck?
So these captains are like like

698
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:14,600
you guys are like flying on
planes.

699
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,700
That had my broken shit in it.
Yes.

700
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:23,300
So Careful.
Yes. so it's almost like it kind

701
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:29,900
of feels like, Like like they're
trying to not repent, but like,

702
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,000
prevent something that had
happened to them, from how it's

703
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,600
almost like they're like,
Guardian Angels or like watching

704
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,200
said, I think they couldn't
cross over.

705
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,100
They weren't there was, they
weren't handpiece a Penance

706
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,100
paying a Penance or trying to
make up.

707
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,900
Yeah.
Maybe they felt so guilty.

708
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,100
Yeah.
Again, it bottom line, human

709
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:49,800
error, right?
Right.

710
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,900
So maybe they did.
Maybe they were, like, I can't

711
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:56,800
go because I I've to make sure
that these are people.

712
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,000
I have to.
Yeah.

713
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,700
Okay, so here's another one.
One day, it crew were in a

714
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:06,900
cockpit discussing airplane
stuff when they discovered Dawn

715
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:11,300
sitting right next to them.
And then he warns them of this

716
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,000
faulty electrical circuit.
They're like, what the hell?

717
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,800
Like, what will they decide to
go check it out.

718
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,600
And so they went and just go,
okay, well, we'll go look at

719
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,000
whatever this because they were
confused or like what am I

720
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,100
saying?
Yeah, they did in fact discover

721
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,700
a faulty circuit they found it
and they replaced it.

722
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Okay.
So if you're in a smart like

723
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:38,000
these, these Pilots were well
known.

724
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:39,800
This was a huge plane crash,
right?

725
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,000
Yes.
So I think that word probably

726
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:50,100
spreads saying like hey, Bob and
Don are fucking telling us that

727
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,500
like the oh yeah.
That's why I, you know, if you

728
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:58,700
see bothered on wonderful lesson
Listen to what they're saying,

729
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,800
right?
Cuz they're calling some some

730
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,500
real shit out.
Exactly.

731
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:05,900
Holy shit.
So like out of curiosity, how

732
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:08,500
long was this going on years
years?

733
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,000
Yeah.
So this is so folklore.

734
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,900
Like, like, this is something
that is building people know,

735
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:16,600
people are really starting to
know and pay attention writing

736
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,700
to know about this and it's
almost probably welcomed.

737
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:21,100
If you see the well, not
welcome.

738
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:23,100
Like you're like, fuck our plane
could crash.

739
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,700
But like right you're like, hey,
they're warning God.

740
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:27,400
I hope I see Bob.
Yeah.

741
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:31,000
If I don't see Bob that I could
be dead or if everything's fine.

742
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,000
Yeah?
Right whatever.

743
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:37,700
So Bob was seen doing free,
PreFlight checks on the

744
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:42,000
aircrafts and told the ground
staff.

745
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,300
It would be okay as he'd already
had completed the flight checks

746
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,400
and the pilot was so unnerved by
what had happened.

747
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,400
He just completely canceled.
The flight I would do.

748
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:55,200
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, you wait.

749
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,900
You're like you completed white,
what comes by was like and now I

750
00:42:58,908 --> 00:42:59,500
got it.
Huh?

751
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:00,400
Good?
Hey.

752
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,200
Hey John, don't worry about it
already, checked everything out.

753
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,500
It's like bitch.
You fucking made your fight.

754
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:09,000
Like you, you were pushing on
your fucking steering wheel and

755
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,600
made the flight to send.
Anyways, I do not count on you

756
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,900
to make sure that our fucking
flightcheck is okay.

757
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,800
I would be, I would totally
cancel it.

758
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,100
I'd be like yeah I know I just
was not something I want to fuck

759
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:23,000
with crazy.
Yeah, to Crazy fuck.

760
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,300
So here's the last one.
So while in a Cockpit one day

761
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:29,700
preparing for the flight at
Pilot heard loud, knocks from

762
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:33,500
under the floor underneath them.
And when he opened that

763
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:37,500
trapdoor, which is where they
had sent repo.

764
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:42,800
Hmm.
Dawn looking right at him who

765
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,500
then promptly immediately
disappeared and he wanted to

766
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,500
look further.
And so he went down the pilot

767
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:53,800
went down there to look and he
actually found a problem down

768
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,900
there that could have caused.
A problem with a serious problem

769
00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:00,200
with the flight.
So had he not seen Don's face,

770
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,400
he wouldn't have seen this
potentially bad problem.

771
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,600
So, the moral of all of these
stories is they weren't there to

772
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:14,700
be creepy or haunty or weird.
They were doing this to help

773
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,900
people.
Yeah, to make sure that they

774
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,300
didn't make the same mistakes
that they had.

775
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:20,400
That's right.
Right.

776
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,300
It's almost like like, okay, so
here's the, here's the question

777
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:29,200
that I have for you is like When
you're kind of, I guess paying

778
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,300
Penance or whatever like is that
is that one of those things that

779
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:34,700
you feel like you you need to
do?

780
00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:39,700
Like, do you feel like do you
feel like I'm I have unfinished

781
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:46,000
business and I need to make up
for a mistake that I made.

782
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:49,100
And so I'm going to spend all
this energy all this time.

783
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:54,800
I think that's some of it, I
think. like you said before they

784
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,900
weren't they weren't ready to
die.

785
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
They didn't know.
It may have some of them may not

786
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000
have really even realized they
were dead.

787
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,300
In fact there's one woman that
we'll talk about here in a

788
00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:07,800
minute who I don't passenger
hood on a who I don't think knew

789
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,000
was dead and so I think that's
just it.

790
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,500
They had felt such guilt.
Over 100 passengers, right

791
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:21,600
ahead?
Yeah, so, you didn't just kill

792
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,400
yourself.
It's one thing, it's one thing

793
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,900
if you make a mistake and you're
the person that ends up passing

794
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:34,100
away, but you killed any ball if
you kill people or even like

795
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:37,200
having, I think that there could
be a lot of guilt potentially if

796
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:42,300
you have such because that's
okay, here's the thing energy,

797
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:45,300
right?
Like something traumatic, an

798
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:48,800
Umm, there's like an energy
signature or there's like like

799
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,200
you can go to like the Twin
Towers in New York City, like

800
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,200
the memorial and people say, God
is a really weird feeling here.

801
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:01,600
I can feel the extreme like, the
extreme feelings and stuff.

802
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,800
And like, there's a there's
there's just, there's something

803
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:08,100
odd.
There you have a place like, or

804
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,200
a situation like this, where it
was incredibly sudden, it was a

805
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,500
total accident, a lot of people
had no idea that they No had

806
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:20,900
even died or whatever the the
energy that's associated with

807
00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:23,200
that.
Yes interesting.

808
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,400
And I think that could be like
something that I don't know.

809
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:32,900
Oh no that is that is absolutely
something and in fact there is

810
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:39,600
something called Psychometry, we
had we discussed that on our

811
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,700
communication Spirits can
connect to physical objects,

812
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:46,700
that energy can connect to
physical objects.

813
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:53,700
And that's what I really think
happened here is the writing in

814
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:56,600
these these pieces and parts are
get put in all these other

815
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,200
planes.
And so, the energy of that to

816
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,000
these pieces that are on these
planes, right?

817
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,900
That traumatic experience.
That the energy of that trauma

818
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:11,400
is in the plane.
These existing planes.

819
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,600
Yes themselves.
So why wouldn't you warn

820
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:16,200
someone?
Like there something wrong?

821
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,300
I mean, if I'm a ghost I would
most certainly do something like

822
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:22,700
that.
You wouldn't make things so you

823
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:25,800
would hope so you'd hope so if
you haven't had enough but I

824
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,700
think, I think part of it, I'd
just a theory of mine is like

825
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:32,600
part of it has to do with that
extreme like unknowing extreme

826
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,800
situation, where a shitload of
people die and there's like a

827
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:41,100
huge loss, I feel like that's a
huge part of it, where that can

828
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:44,700
take on and like for years
afterwards, totally like crows,

829
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,600
a grade.
Yeah, I don't know.

830
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,600
So after these sightings Things
didn't stop.

831
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:56,500
The crew was encouraged to
report every single incident

832
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:59,300
pertaining to this flight
aircraft in the log, book on the

833
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:01,400
plane, no matter how big, or how
small.

834
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:04,300
So there's this logbook that
they have on planes in there and

835
00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:06,700
they were encouraged to log
everything.

836
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,400
All of the supernatural stuff
that yes and anything out of the

837
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,400
ordinary, they were told to
lock.

838
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,200
There were a lot of sightings
that were recorded in these

839
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,300
flight books I mean and across
all the plans, you know, many of

840
00:48:22,308 --> 00:48:24,800
the planes, right?
it's imagine these flight books,

841
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:32,600
and there's just all these like,
logs since we know this, not

842
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,500
only from the numerous Reports
are eyewitnesses right from

843
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:42,900
people that are reported, but
then the sightings were reported

844
00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:45,600
by the flight, safety
Foundation, publication.

845
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:52,800
And of course, this is to the
extreme disapproval of Eastern

846
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,900
area, of course.
Eastern Airlines is like, yeah,

847
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:58,400
yeah, no, no, we don't want to
know.

848
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,500
We don't want people to know
that we have like ghosts Parts

849
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:03,400
on our fucking exhale then no.
No.

850
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,600
Okay.
So now Now suddenly Eastern

851
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,600
Airlines CEO is dismissing all.
Now, there's something

852
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,600
dismissing, all these claims and
say it's a bunch of nonsense and

853
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,900
quote garbage.
And so now the crew is warned,

854
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:24,800
do not talk about the sightings
do not report the sightings do

855
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,300
not document these sightings and
do not spread any words of

856
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:33,900
ghosts.
And if you do, you will be

857
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,900
fired.
Fucking Eastern Airlines

858
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,600
goddamn.
So now guess what?

859
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,600
The logbooks disappear
bom-bom-bom are gone.

860
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,500
Oh, they all disappear.
It's all these.

861
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:53,300
So, all these stories that
they're having, yep, are now

862
00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:55,500
locked up.
They had all logged, huh.

863
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:56,700
Yep.
All gone.

864
00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:07,800
Oh my God, I got to do it.
Yeah, so now Eastern Airlines is

865
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,200
like, f that this is not real.
So there, what there?

866
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,700
And what they feel like is a
complete PR Nightmare, and

867
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:19,600
whether publicly denying that
their planes were hot, they

868
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,100
decided they would go ahead and
remove all this.

869
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:26,000
I'd like, we're not, we're not
haunted, but we're going to go

870
00:50:26,008 --> 00:50:28,900
ahead and take those parts out
of those other planes that we

871
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:30,700
they knew exactly where they
placed them.

872
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:32,600
Exactly.
Uh-huh.

873
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,900
Yeah, we're gonna do, we're
going to take that shit out.

874
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,400
Out when replace that with some
your stuff because they probably

875
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,200
need repaired anyone?
I probably your Eastern

876
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Airlines.
Yeah.

877
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Then guess what happened?
Because away goes away.

878
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:51,500
Okay, here's the thing.
I'm looking from a marketing

879
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,700
perspective from a marketing
standard.

880
00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:59,400
Okay?
Now, would you, let's say, okay,

881
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,100
it's like we're having, like,
like all these weird things, we

882
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:04,900
are going to design a plane
with, like, a bunch of new

883
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:08,000
parts, but like, some of them
are going to have like, these

884
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,200
weird ghostly apparitions
potentially attached to it,

885
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:15,600
would you fly?
On a flight like that if it had

886
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,500
Apparition.
Yeah, I'm gonna be there not

887
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:20,900
gonna crash the plane.
That's not their intent know.

888
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:23,200
Their intention is to make sure
that you definitely Do Not

889
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,700
Crash.
I think that you could make a

890
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:27,300
shitload of money Eastern
Airlines like no wonder when.

891
00:51:27,700 --> 00:51:29,400
Oh yeah.
You definitely missed out like

892
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,300
say who wanted flights.
Are you going to see Bob or done

893
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:35,000
like Zack?
Let's have a fucking resident

894
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,500
psychic on the fucking on the
flight, right?

895
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:40,500
You fucking tarot cards and
like, you know, Ouija board

896
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:43,400
session.
Like this could be a great A

897
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,900
great thing.
Uh-huh, Eastern.

898
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:48,200
Airlines blew it.
I blew it just like one creepy

899
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,600
flight.
Yeah.

900
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,200
You know, I had to do it on all
of them.

901
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,900
No, no.
You can't use the same plane.

902
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:54,600
Just don't say.
It's a creepy one.

903
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,800
Exactly knows like this specific
flight.

904
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,600
Yes, that we are.
That is this the experience?

905
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:03,300
Yeah.
Yeah.

906
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:05,900
It's an entire like experience.
We're gonna go somewhere creepy.

907
00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:07,900
Like, I don't know.
Charleston, South Carolina hurt,

908
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:10,900
ya, Charleston, South Carolina.
I don't know.

909
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:13,000
Anyway, I hate.
I hate that.

910
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Listen back to be like, God damn
lie for so stupid.

911
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Okay, so Bob and Don yes, never
seen them from again, they're

912
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,300
gone.
They're gone because all those

913
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:29,100
parts are gone.
There's actually they're happy I

914
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:29,700
guess.
Yeah.

915
00:52:29,900 --> 00:52:31,300
They're like okay now we're
good.

916
00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:33,400
Now we can now we can rest.
I can rest.

917
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:38,000
So did it happen?
Instantly, like, was it over

918
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,600
time?
I mean, we're never now, we'll

919
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,600
never know for sure.
Right.

920
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,300
Did it like happen, that way?
Like, I took it off, they're

921
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,700
gone, take it off the God.
I mean, I don't know, whatever,

922
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:47,300
but they're gone.
Point is they're gone.

923
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:51,900
And either way these employees
of these planes, they said that

924
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:54,500
the sightings had stopped
passengers were no longer

925
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:58,600
reporting them so it's
something.

926
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,500
Yeah, there's something that's
something.

927
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:08,300
Yeah, so there are like a
shitload of books and TVs,

928
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,200
movies about this.
I have never heard of this and

929
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,000
they crazy crazy.
It's crazy.

930
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,200
I've never heard of this ghost
of Flight 001. 1976 book.

931
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:26,600
Crash 1977 book.
Crash the movie starring William

932
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,600
Shatner 1978 yes live long and
prosper.

933
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,700
Bitch goes to Flight 401 Ernest,
Borgnine 1978 film.

934
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:43,500
What goes to fly 401 Bob Welsh
1979 song Ghost of Flight. 401

935
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:50,000
2020 2022, documentary, which is
kind of what made me come to

936
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,100
this.
You talk about there.

937
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:57,600
Yeah, that particular
documentary had this guy named

938
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,500
Steve Shippy and a medium named
Cindy Caza.

939
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:07,200
Who's also a psychotic refer,
she doesn't ography She just

940
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,200
Spirit writing.
I mean, she does all the

941
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,500
different all.
Yeah.

942
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:15,100
So she seems to me like the very
same kind of person.

943
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:19,400
Like Tyler Henry Lee know how he
does the yes he does.

944
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,500
Decide honesty writing like
crazy also holds onto an item.

945
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:25,800
Yes, and he can touch things.
Yes.

946
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,700
So she seems very similar.
It's a skill in that as he does.

947
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:41,900
Okay. so, in this documentary,
This medium Cindy, he takes the

948
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:44,200
Steve guy.
He takes her to the Everglades

949
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:49,000
in the in one of these.
One of those boats that little

950
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,200
like the big four colors are
like, yeah, can go over the

951
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,400
water and the scammers, I don't
think that's I kept, that's your

952
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:03,500
was so he takes her into the
Everglades and but he isn't

953
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:05,400
doesn't take her directly into
the site.

954
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,200
He just takes you into the
general vicinity. about, that's

955
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:18,900
what Eric was about and he asks
her to Take me to the site.

956
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:26,100
Take me to your he asks her who
has never been there to take

957
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,100
direct me to the site.
Now he knows where it is

958
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:31,100
controls.
He knows where it is.

959
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:32,200
Right?
Here's a test.

960
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,200
Yeah there's only actually know
where you're going.

961
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,800
Yeah cameras parents dinging.
Yeah yeah.

962
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:40,500
Okay.
So there we even all through the

963
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,500
Sawgrass, you know, when this
little thing right?

964
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:47,600
And is it at night it's during
this is during the day today,

965
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,800
right?
Because you couldn't see where

966
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,300
you're going.
So that reasons she takes him

967
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:54,800
directly there and when she's
explaining it, she goes well

968
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,900
that's weird.
I see him.

969
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,600
I see it here over here and I
see it over there.

970
00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:06,000
And so she's confused as she's
not this, but he's but Steve

971
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,400
says, well, that makes sense
because it actually hit there

972
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:14,300
and it ended up over there.
So he put the, can he connected

973
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:24,100
those two together, right?
That way, okay, So this is where

974
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:26,900
it's like.
So the idea of departed, Souls

975
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:30,400
be able to retain some sort of
relationship with them and

976
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,000
objects like salvage parts of
the plane.

977
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,500
Like I said, is connected to
what is known as psychometry.

978
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:40,000
And that's when a person can
touch something and obtain, some

979
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,500
sort of information or fact
about that thing Fields, energy,

980
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:45,400
let's energy.
Exactly.

981
00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:48,700
And so, she performs this this
at the Levee.

982
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:55,000
So in this particular area, Of
the Everglades, there's a levy.

983
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Okay?
And so she's touching this Levi.

984
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:03,400
And she says, she's hearing This
Woman's just screaming screaming

985
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,400
for this child, screaming
screaming, screaming.

986
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,100
And she says, it's
overwhelmingly loud.

987
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:13,500
Yeah.
And she keeps like Cindy keeps

988
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:15,200
saying these things.
She'll like, she'll go.

989
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:20,200
She goes window.
Gali wheel.

990
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:30,500
Belch are window and so and she
keeps calling out these plane

991
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:33,400
parts and she goes, there's
something with plane Parts.

992
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:35,500
I'm not getting this thing with
this plane.

993
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:40,400
Dude, there's like something
happening with plane parts of

994
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:46,000
plane pieces and Of course, then
Steve goes.

995
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,800
Well, that's because he's
playing pieces became integral

996
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,300
parts of other planes.
He's a, that's how he connected

997
00:57:53,300 --> 00:57:55,200
the two.
And then she kept saying, there

998
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,100
was something on with lights.
There's a light or something

999
00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:01,400
about light malfunction.
There's light something wrong

1000
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,700
with lights, and he goes.
Oh, yeah.

1001
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:07,900
Because I love the landing gear.
Lighting gear light was what

1002
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:10,000
functioned yeah.
That's what fucked the whole

1003
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:10,500
plane.
Yeah.

1004
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:16,300
Right.
So then they talked to a couple

1005
00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:21,600
of the flight attendants.
And mercy Ruiz.

1006
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,000
She's one of the flight
attendants.

1007
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,800
So she takes a picture of the
flight attendants all together

1008
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,200
on the plane before takeoff
because it was the holidays and

1009
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,200
she's like, well, we might not
ever fly a gather together

1010
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,200
again, so let's all get together
and take this picture back then,

1011
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:37,900
and this is right before the
flight takes off.

1012
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,700
Oh, and so, she takes pictures
of all these flight attendants.

1013
00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:46,700
And remember pictures today,
cameras today we can see the

1014
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:51,700
instant like, you know, Film.
This is film film and so she

1015
00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:57,500
takes the picture and it's eight
of their nine of the ten flight

1016
00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,900
attendants because when I had to
take the picture, right?

1017
00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:04,600
Well, One of the flighted to
her.

1018
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,400
She was in the picture.
She's like, she's like going

1019
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,700
like this.
Yeah, one of the others light

1020
00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:12,700
attendance and another flight
attempt to the other one is

1021
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:15,900
gonna go like this and she's
gonna oh so like she's putting

1022
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:19,100
her hands around her throat and
like making my Dead face.

1023
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:21,100
Right.
So the girl that got the bunny

1024
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:22,600
ears on the girl that got
choked.

1025
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,100
Those were the two that died?
Shut the fuck up.

1026
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,500
That's so creepy.
That's that is so creepy dude.

1027
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,800
I mean is it a coincidence?
I don't know.

1028
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,800
Maybe But but those are the two.
Why did they have to do that?

1029
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,200
Don't end up.
Looking forward to our flight

1030
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,600
attendant, you're listening
right now and you're taking a

1031
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,100
picture before a flight, do not.
Do those, do those things

1032
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,600
because, you know, you never
know.

1033
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,000
That could be putting a fucking
hacks or something on these on

1034
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,200
these other attendants, right?
That's weird.

1035
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,000
Weird.
So they talk.

1036
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,700
So one of the women has oh yes,
oh yes.

1037
00:59:56,700 --> 01:00:01,900
Oh, so she's concerned right?
She's like, did we kill them?

1038
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,100
Yeah, I would feel that way for
sure and working in a traumatic

1039
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:08,100
situation.
And what's interesting is there

1040
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:11,000
was out of that hole
destruction, there was one

1041
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,000
suitcase that was recovered.
It was hers.

1042
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,200
That had that camera completely
intact.

1043
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,800
That's fucking weird, dude.
That's very, very strange,

1044
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:26,100
right?
Everything else was last.

1045
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:29,300
Yeah, everything was just
completely destroyed shredded,

1046
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,500
but they would covered that
suitcase with that camera.

1047
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,300
At least maybe her family had.
Well, wait, yes, that fly to

1048
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:39,800
Dallas survives.
Yeah, she survived.

1049
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:46,500
Talk about Survivor guilt.
Talk about never make like

1050
01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:50,000
fucking like a boy bunny ears or
no bueno.

1051
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,200
Yikes.
So now I'm going to throw out a

1052
01:00:53,208 --> 01:00:55,100
little skepticism.
Okay.

1053
01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:59,500
Okay.
And now I have nothing against

1054
01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:01,300
Steve.
Mmm.

1055
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:10,700
This is my opinion. but, Sweet
in Steve's documentary.

1056
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,700
He has this, he's holding this
device, okay?

1057
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:17,600
And it looks like a small
handheld recorder.

1058
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,700
You know those old.
Are you put those little bitty

1059
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:21,900
tapes in there and you can
afford things, huh?

1060
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,900
It kind of looks like that.
Okay, he never says what it is

1061
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,600
but when I did research to try
to figure out what that could

1062
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,500
potentially be, yeah.
It's either something called a

1063
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:38,000
Frank's box, a ghost box or a
spiricom?

1064
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,000
Yes.
And so, I've heard of these.

1065
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,100
It apparently records sounds
that you can't hear ya.

1066
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,500
Yeah.
It's like not you like, with our

1067
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,900
we have awful hearing, right?
Like yes as human.

1068
01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:54,500
So yes, certain range, yes.
But other animals things like

1069
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:57,700
that, like they're these
electric voice phenomenon.

1070
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,300
Precisely, that is exactly at
EVPs, Bingo girl.

1071
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,300
And so he like I said, he never
says what's in his hand, but

1072
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:11,100
he's taking this thing, and he
asks a question, he turns it on

1073
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:17,100
and he asks a question.
And he says so, oh, by the way.

1074
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,100
Sorry, this is the other thing
that pisses me off.

1075
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,500
Okay, let's hear they.
Go out to the Everglades at

1076
01:02:21,500 --> 01:02:24,500
pitch black, okay, like I'm
sorry.

1077
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,800
Why do you have to go out there
at night?

1078
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,000
I mean I know the answer it's
called Drama.

1079
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,100
It's yeah I mean we love drama
but But you don't have to to

1080
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,600
Scientific scientifically.
You do not have to go out there

1081
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,900
and Pitch fucking black.
You're just trying to create a

1082
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:41,800
mode or an Ambience.
Exactly.

1083
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,900
Okay, it's TV.
Yeah, let's make it more extreme

1084
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:45,900
whatever.
Whatever.

1085
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,800
Okay but I'm sorry if I was
going to be like really truly

1086
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,900
like Independents facts kind of
person.

1087
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,700
I wouldn't be going out in the
middle of the night where I

1088
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:58,900
could hardly see my equipment
know for sure no it's just it

1089
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:01,500
adds to the creep factor.
It's a very scientists what it

1090
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:03,500
is?
Yes, creep Factor. so, he turns

1091
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:07,500
on this, the recorder and he
goes What is your name?

1092
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,000
And he waits a minute, right?
Because obviously, you need to

1093
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:16,400
record the response and then he
stops and he rewinds it.

1094
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,400
And he plays.
And you here like in.

1095
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:25,300
He's done recording here, right?
Because it's fucking stupid and

1096
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:27,700
then you here.
Hmm.

1097
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,800
And he looks at the camera and
he goes, Charles.

1098
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:35,700
Did you hear that?
I'm like okay it could could

1099
01:03:35,700 --> 01:03:37,800
sound like Charles, okay, I'll
give you that.

1100
01:03:37,900 --> 01:03:42,600
Like okay so it's Charles bye.
Okay, fine fine fine fine.

1101
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,000
I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm with
you.

1102
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,000
I'm riding on this train that's
running on your train, okay.

1103
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,300
It's Charles, you're talking to
Charles.

1104
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,600
Okay, so then he's turns it back
on.

1105
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:58,800
It goes Charles.
If you have a message, I'm open

1106
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,400
to listening to you.
And then he waits.

1107
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:10,400
Stops rewinds plays.
And then you hear them.

1108
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,300
Go over here.
And then here.

1109
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,000
You know, you're like yeah, like
white, like recordings, like,

1110
01:04:23,500 --> 01:04:25,900
and then on the bottom of the
screen, like in closed

1111
01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:29,600
captioning, it types out.
I'm the one who died in the

1112
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:34,400
plane crash, bullshit, bullshit.
And that's so then he goes like

1113
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:40,200
this, he goes Did you hear that?
This is like the best EVP

1114
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,400
recording I've ever recorded in
my life here.

1115
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,700
Listen again, and he stops
rewinds plays.

1116
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,600
And on the screen it says I'm
the one who died in the plane

1117
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,600
crash he goes.
Did you hear that?

1118
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:58,500
No, we did not hear.
Like, literally, I did not hear

1119
01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:00,700
that.
It's like the power of

1120
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:03,400
suggestion, right?
Like, that's, yeah.

1121
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:08,000
If you're sitting there you're
playing something and you say oh

1122
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,800
this is what it says and you'll
be like I guess I can hear that.

1123
01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:13,100
Sure I'll give it to you like
we're riding this train.

1124
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,700
Yeah fine I that's why I have an
issue with EVPs.

1125
01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:20,300
Like I've never heard some with
the exception of actually a

1126
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:22,400
couple That I have a front.
I have friends who have

1127
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,100
recorded.
I like typically you have one

1128
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,800
you're in the Everglades, there
are there's a lot of animals,

1129
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,600
there's a lot of sounds.
It's in a natural hat like

1130
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,400
you're outside where there are
frogs and there are, you know, I

1131
01:05:37,408 --> 01:05:41,300
don't know if I can toads and
alligators and I beat like

1132
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:43,700
fucking bugs and stuff that are
super Buzzy.

1133
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:46,100
Yeah.
So it's like, are we really

1134
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,000
hearing that?
I think?

1135
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Probably not.
Like, that's what kills me.

1136
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:54,000
Me, because he's because he
literally said, quote, and I'm

1137
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,100
quoting you here.
This is a literal quote.

1138
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:04,500
He says, this is quite possibly
one of the greatest EVPs I've

1139
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:15,100
ever captured in my life wrong,
and I heard, oh my God, Kevin,

1140
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:18,800
that was a toilet if you can't
believe, huh?

1141
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:20,000
That's it.
I'm the one who died in the

1142
01:06:20,008 --> 01:06:23,300
plane crash.
Then I hear that, that I think

1143
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:26,100
that, you know, the skepticism,
I'm with you on it.

1144
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:29,700
I think that when it comes to
that kind of shit you have,

1145
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:31,600
like, people who are, like, they
really want to believe.

1146
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:37,600
And trust me, I want to believe,
but you can't be outside and say

1147
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,000
it's like a controlled
environment.

1148
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,100
That is not a controlled
environment, right?

1149
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,500
And really liked the power of
suggestions, incredibly

1150
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:48,700
powerful, right?
Yes, like if you tell someone

1151
01:06:48,700 --> 01:06:50,400
this is what's you know, the sky
is red.

1152
01:06:50,500 --> 01:06:52,300
You do know it's blue and like
no it is red.

1153
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:54,300
Don't you see?
It's red and if I tell you,

1154
01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:56,400
you're ugly enough eventually
you're gonna believe you're

1155
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,100
ugly.
Oh for sure.

1156
01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:00,800
Yeah so if I keep telling you
that it says I'm the one who

1157
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,700
died in the plane crash,
eventually you're going to leave

1158
01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:03,300
me.
Yes.

1159
01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:04,500
Oh for sure.
Yeah, yeah.

1160
01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:06,200
I'm gonna listen to it over and
over again.

1161
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,600
If you want to hear something
you're going to hear it, you're

1162
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,700
gonna see it.
I'm with you.

1163
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,100
This guy is kind.
He's it's almost like he's

1164
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:17,700
taking away the validity of
these real experiences like it.

1165
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:20,200
Like I wanted to believe him
like in like only had all this

1166
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,400
great.
Equipment.

1167
01:07:21,500 --> 01:07:24,400
The equipment great.
And then until he did that, I am

1168
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:25,900
you lat.
Danny lost.

1169
01:07:25,900 --> 01:07:27,500
Yeah.
You lost me on that?

1170
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,900
I think.
I think that like there is a

1171
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:32,200
fine line, right?
You kind of want to create some

1172
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,600
kind of drama, like you were
saying they have all these

1173
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,400
funds.
Nobody, I've never heard of this

1174
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,500
flight 401 like I've never heard
of it.

1175
01:07:39,700 --> 01:07:44,100
So you know you're trying to
create some kind of new

1176
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:46,300
experiences that are clearly not
happening.

1177
01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:48,800
Yes.
Yeah and I get it, I get the

1178
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:53,000
drama behind it but I mean it's
really disregarding one, a

1179
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:58,400
tragedy that happened and then
to these real like logged items

1180
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:03,100
that were occurring after yes.
After you know the crafted the

1181
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,300
crash it happened.
Like that's legitimate.

1182
01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:07,500
Hmm.
That guy sucks.

1183
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:10,400
Yeah was I was so unhappy about
that.

1184
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:17,000
Now if you all are I'm not
judging, but if you want to see

1185
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:22,000
the physical artifacts, they
actually are some the original

1186
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:26,100
floor board from Flight 401 is
in an archives in the history,

1187
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:30,399
Miami and South Florida.
There's pieces of Flight, 401

1188
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,200
wreckage, that can also be found
in.

1189
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,100
What's its called Ed and
Lorraine Warren.

1190
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:38,200
OH, called museum in,
Connecticut and Lorraine.

1191
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,300
Yeah, yep.
They have some pieces.

1192
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,899
So if you're interested in
seeing them, they're there.

1193
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:47,300
They have a haunted Museum.
Okay, all right.

1194
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:51,700
Well, The Conjuring, yeah,
that's, that's my story.

1195
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:56,100
Girl, you know, you have any, do
you have any thoughts about

1196
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,500
stuff?
I do.

1197
01:08:57,700 --> 01:09:00,800
I think that one I've never
heard of this, you know, story.

1198
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:06,000
It does not surprise me that
like a company would try to

1199
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,200
reuse these parts.
It's a little scary though,

1200
01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:10,899
right?
Like, you don't want it to

1201
01:09:10,899 --> 01:09:13,000
display.
These super disconcerting and

1202
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,500
you'd hope that they would.
Don't be doing this moving

1203
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:17,300
forward like it.
Like right now on the flights

1204
01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:19,100
that we get on but it would not
surprise me.

1205
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:23,000
No, it was, they did that.
I do think there's some validity

1206
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,800
to this story.
Like I If all of these people

1207
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:30,500
are having these experiences,
yes, that are tangible and also

1208
01:09:30,899 --> 01:09:34,800
hey these these pilots and stuff
are calling out equipment that's

1209
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,000
actually failing.
Yeah.

1210
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:41,200
And we have record of replacing
it like this is legitimate shit

1211
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,899
that we can't explain, right?
It fits in.

1212
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:47,600
The into like, our world of the
bizarre.

1213
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,300
Yes.
Is that that's really where we

1214
01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:52,600
need to focus on.
You know?

1215
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,500
Like I think that we should
focus on that and like and call

1216
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:59,500
that shit we can't explain you
know filed out into the huge-ass

1217
01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:02,700
filing cabinet of shit, we
cannot explain right?

1218
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:05,900
But has has some validity
totally when you have people

1219
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:09,600
bringing out EVPs and shits like
goddamn like it just kind of

1220
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,600
children's.
Everyone cheapens it.

1221
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,800
That's exactly.
It's so So I've never heard of

1222
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,700
it night.
I love that story.

1223
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,400
So great.
It had like a little pieces of

1224
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,900
all kinds of stuff.
Didn't ya?

1225
01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:24,100
Did it had Spira season the
cover up, cover up?

1226
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:27,300
It had ghosts, kind of tragedy,
right?

1227
01:10:27,300 --> 01:10:30,800
Like like some, some like weird
shit like all these things

1228
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,300
happening at once to create this
awful situation.

1229
01:10:35,300 --> 01:10:38,000
But yeah, it's insane.
Yeah, great one.

1230
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,200
Kevin dive into that when it
starts to get kind of Juicy,

1231
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,900
yes, I'm sure there are more
stories that you were.

1232
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,600
Steven didn't have time to
cover.

1233
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,600
Totally.
Oh yeah.

1234
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,500
Exactly.
Had to had to whittle it down a

1235
01:10:49,508 --> 01:10:52,000
little bit for sure.
Ya get well I'm glad you enjoyed

1236
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,500
it.
Thank you good.

1237
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:57,200
Well I guess we'll chat again in
a couple weeks.

1238
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:02,400
Yes looking forward to that as
always and we'll see all you

1239
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,000
guys on the next episode.
Bye bye.