Absinthe - The Green Fairy

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Well, hello, my friends.
This is episode.

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I don't know 45.
Something of the bizarre AF and

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I'll be your host today with me
is my co-host with the most

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Kevin.
How are you doing?

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Hola Senoritas.
And just like, before we find

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ourselves here, to talk about
the strange, the unbelievable.

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And you got it, the bazaar lucky
us, we have a guest in our

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studio today.
Our dear friend and fellow

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theater nerd, Andrew Neary.
Hello, thank you for having me,

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y'all.
Thank you so much for taking the

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time out of your busy schedule.
To get weird with us.

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Yeah, thank you so much, you're
welcome.

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So we've known and Andrew for
how long have you known and

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reporter Kevin?
It's been years. 2015, is she,

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yeah, we enter.
So what happened was?

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We met in a Edition.
Hmm, and the director made him

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kiss me, okay?
Because the play is kiss miss

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Spider Woman, if you've ever
seen the movie or the play, it's

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really, really, really good.
And so, yeah, she made him do.

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Seen Jamie.
But anyway that's how we met and

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then afterwards asked me, so
tell me why did you kiss?

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Kevin said, because the script
old trick question, I do what

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I'm told.
That's right.

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Okay so for today I thought we
would talk about the green fairy

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Is the green fairy.
Yeah, it's green.

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Fairy is like another word or
another term for Absinthe.

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They called her the green fairy,
so she kind of like made you

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hallucinate like that.
She's actually a Dame who cursed

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and caused many ills from
fighting contaminated, water

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sources, to causing psychotic,
episodes that end in mud.

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God, this actually led to a
Prohibition style ban and

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Europe.
And if you know, you know, the

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Europeans Banning liquor is a
fucking big deal, right?

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So if you guys ever heard of the
stuff, Absinthe.

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Okay I personally like no bueno
but it doesn't, it have like

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sometimes it can have
hallucinogenics in it.

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Right?
Like warm wood or something

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weird like that wormwood.
Is that was one of the active

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ingredients.
Yeah.

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Okay hmm.
So you're right on the money,

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what about you?
And Joe, yeah, definitely have

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heard of it and tried it by
itself.

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And in cocktails, I'm not huge
on the licorice flavor, which

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kind of comes through a pretty
heavy on it.

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But there are some cocktails at
its The good mixed into and I

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was actually really
disappointed.

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The first time I had it when I
found out, oh, when you get in

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the u.s., it actually doesn't
have any of the hallucinogenic

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properties and it just the like,
so what's the point?

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We're not going to hallucinate,
you know, my first time,

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actually, like trying or not,
trying absent.

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Because I was a goody two-shoes.
I would not try absinthe until

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it was legal, but it was Moulin
Rouge.

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I was the first First time but I
had even heard of it experience

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with the to Kylie Minogue.
Yeah.

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It's very, she was the great.
Did you ever watch Moulin Rouge?

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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So the green fairy like is in
it.

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It's that's part of what I want
the movie, the movie.

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Yeah.
When the whole troop

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toulouse-lautrec Ewan McGregor,
whatever.

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Kylie Minogue is in this they
all take absent and they start

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hallucinating Kylie.
Minogue is a green fairy dancing

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around.
Cute.

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Yes sheet.
Okay wow no joke.

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That's in my notes.
I had like okay, I knew it and

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she looked like Tinker Bell.
Okay.

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Yeah, just for there.
Listening one other movie that I

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saw it in and see from hell with
Johnny Depp, he does it too.

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He's a detective and tripping
out on absent.

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Helps him find Jack the Ripper.
Okay, so, my only experience

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with her before trying to just
say things like, oh, I need to

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try this.
Yeah, great.

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He made it look really cool.
Yeah, it does look really,

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really cool when you have those,
I was like in the Christian club

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and Stuff.
So, when I saw that I'm like, oh

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my God, what is, what is this?
Absolutely.

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It's because there's a cool
ritual with the preparation,

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everything.
And it's a thing.

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It's a total thing.
Okay.

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So actually, you know, as far as
like the history goes, the

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active ingredient in absinthe is
wormwood and it sounds like it's

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something out of Harry Potter,
but it's a real plant that in

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large quantities.
Can be lethal or poisonous but

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when diluted it can be used for
medicinal purposes.

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So the pick the plan that I'm
specifically talking about is

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Wormwood hence absinthe, okay,
the name.

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So, in the Middle Ages, it was
actually used to spice Mead and

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to put in chicken nesting boxes
like to prevent from from like

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lice and mites and Vermin stuff
like that.

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And actually Shakespeare, even
spoke of its bitters use in and

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weaning in the infamous Romeo
and Juliet.

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So Andrew, can you please put on
your thespian hats and read what

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Juliet's nurse said regarding
wormwood of course?

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Oh, this is the nurse wonderful.
This is traditional having a man

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for a head then laid wormwood to
my dug.

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What do you guys think?
That means for, I had been laid,

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wormwood to my dug.
I don't, let's argue Doug.

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I don't really want to know what
she's trying to keep Burma.

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Now, she's trying to wean Juliet
She's putting wormwood on her

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Doug.
A Doug is a she's trick.

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Go ahead and say Sir private
part.

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It's a private part her nipples.
Yes.

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It's her nipples but it does
sound like it's like the other

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drugs.
Like would she be hallucinating

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from like absorbing the wormwood
through the nipples?

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That's a great question it.
Well, what, what they were

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saying is that they would put
that wormwood on the nipple

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because it was super bitter.
And as we can Because I made us

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cocktails, it's like a more of a
bitter sent, okay?

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And and taste.
So I the nipples so that maybe

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wouldn't want to win.
It's to get the baby to stop to

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stop rescue.
No, I'm not.

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Oh yeah, sorry about that.
I wasn't that was a bad

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assumption on my part.
So so the absence liquor that we

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actually know about really
gained popularity in 1844 during

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the Algerian, War of
independence.

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So that was France trying to
take over Colonial.

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Colonial e like Algeria and
ultimately what you guys need to

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know is one, it was not until
February 22nd 1845, the country

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was secured and military
operations stop so and then to

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the French troops received daily
rations of absinthe they'll look

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or to prevent sickness from
contaminated water and stuff

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like that and they started to
get a For it.

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So we're just going to fast
forward to 1863 and during that

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time there was a grapevine
parasite that affected all of

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the grape vines in European
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Actually 90% of the European
burn Vineyards and the loss of

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wine was absence gain because a
lot of French soldiers.

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Had a taste for it so the like
no wine will have absent.

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Yeah.
There's no wine available or

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it's incredibly expensive.
So yeah, I'm just going to adieu

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absinthe and its really fucking
strong absent.

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This really strong so you get
more bang for your buck.

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So, speaking of, I'm actually a
little thirsty.

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I wanted to taste a little bit
of what these little Frenchie's,

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dudes loved.
So I made you both a cocktail.

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Kevin yours has extra absent
because I know how much you love

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it.
Okay, so this is actually death

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in the afternoon.
I've made it before for Kevin,

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he's not a fan.
The face, the face of it all but

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it was, I thought it was just
too on the nose for this podcast

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and for someone who appreciates
literature, this is actually an

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Ernest Hemingway's drink, it's
his drink that he created me, he

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said, Andrew could you pour
could you tell me what the quite

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is?
Absolutely poor.

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One jigger absinthe into a
champagne glass at iced

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champagne, until it attains, the
proper opalescent milkiness

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drink 3, 25 of these slowly.
I remember that quote, I

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remember that.
What?

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Yes. 335 definitely an Ernest
Hemingway instruction.

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It definitely is so, so, cheers,
guys, for the green fairy.

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Let's hope that one of you
hallucinates.

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God, I'm speaking mainly to us
because honestly, you don't have

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very much.
Mmm really goes.

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It's great.
I mean, it tastes medicinal,

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doesn't it?
Mmm.

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Okay thought.
Okay, tell me, what are you guys

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thinking?
I don't need to tell you what

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I'm thinking.
I'm just I love to drink

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cocktails me, too.
I just do not like Licorice.

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And that is really a licorice
hardcore man.

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It's just one of those things.
You either love it or you hate

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it.
And if you love it, you love it.

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If you hate it you love it
Alicia.

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I'm not gonna waste it.
Do you like black licorice?

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I do.
I do have to like black

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licorice?
Licorice to eat drink this?

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Yeah and actually like for a lot
of cocktails they call for it

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just being rinsed.
Like the glasses being rinsed

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with it.
Okay.

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I can I have like a hint of that
I can get.

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Yeah, but you got you guys a
layer of flavor but yeah, this

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is like a new portable.
Yeah, you guys got like a

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full-on shot.
I'm sorry.

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Yeah.
Well we We're getting the full.

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Yeah, the full effects of it so
we make have had cocktails with

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absinthe in it before.
That was that we're actually

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really good like it's as our act
like we were talking about

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earlier it's so you're saying
death in the afternoon is not

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good not me.
Oh yeah another not because I

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don't like it, I just don't
right right everybody.

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Bourbon and beer.
Kind of guy.

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That's like a total dude.
Yeah, exactly.

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But and then like the Sazerac
though, it's rye whiskey and

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Bitters and And I thought it was
great when I had it but the

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burden does a lot of work to
cover up that licorice.

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Yeah.
Yeah, it does.

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It totally does.
I mean, I like it but it's, I

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get I get, it's not everyone's
taste.

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So it again.
Yeah.

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I'm gonna let it go to waste
this.

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Great good.
And I bought an entire bottle,

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but which I will all be taking
home with me, laughs.

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Yeah, to you have to drink
experience, very slow.

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With that that's that's what I
Ernest Hemingway's telling you

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if Ernest Hemingway's telling
you to drink something snow,

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slow it has to be power.
So I already told you guys that

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the French soldiers actually had
a taste for it and they would

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mix it in their wine actually.
So we're talking anyone.

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They'd mix it in their wine.
The absence with their wine.

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Yeah.
So it's like, I didn't matter.

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No, anything like it.
However, you can, Kevin can

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actually tell me the alcohol
alcohol percentage on it.

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Yeah, this says a whole 60, Five
percent shit.

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Yeah and we have a car that 30
proof that's what it says right

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there.
So that's flammable like that.

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So my God we could light this on
fire.

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Yeah.
You want to we have a flame.

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Yeah let's do it.
Where's the shot?

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Glass.
All right here, this will be

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fun.
That's what, like, okay.

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Like, shrimp.
I forgot about that.

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Okay.
Kevin We're going to try to

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yeah.
Light it on fire which are those

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sure?
Scared.

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No, maybe it's not high enough.
Oh yeah, nice to the flame.

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Oh God, it is cold.
It is ice skating.

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See like the heat off of it.
Holy shit.

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Holy on fire.
I wish the flame was green.

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Oh my gosh.
It is on fire.

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Oh, that would be really cool.
Oh great.

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This is not a great idea.
How do you know if it's still on

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fire?
You can hardly see it?

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No, it's not.
I think.

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Oh my gosh, we just light light
up the whole story.

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Okay, wow.
So it's really not.

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Yeah, no from.
So I'm here to help.

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So it was so popular actually
cafes where people would ask for

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invert, which is a green.
And then the early evening

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actually became known as the
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the absinthe in the air.
I'm sure you could it's really

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strong.
So going back to how we knew

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about the green fairy.
It was actually very popular

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with a specific group of poets
and Tests in France because it

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made him all cry cry.
Right, right.

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We're talking about
toulouse-lautrec actually Manet

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painted and an absent.
The absinthe Drinker, which we

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all have in our show notes, a
link to the painting and he was

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really painting, absinthe in the
attack intoxication.

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Like realistically, one of his
mentor's, Thomas could tour said

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to him o, my poor friend, you
are an absinthe Drinker, is it?

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You have.
Us your moral faculty.

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And then, you know, ultimately
or another, one actually said

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must be drunk, always with wine
poetry or with virtue your

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choice, but intoxicated
yourself, that was Charles

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baudelaire.
Those of you who don't know, you

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sounded just like yes yes yes
yes.

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So ultimately absinthe appealed
to those who valued, you know

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Liberation Allah Moulin Rouge
which we were talking about so I

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just thought there would be
really nice to go through a

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couple of additional quotes by
artists at the time about

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absence, Okay?
Kevin, yeah.

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So, Oscar Wilde declared a glass
of applicants absinthe political

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as anything in the world, what
difference is there between a

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glass of absinthe and the
sunset?

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It's good question.
Andrew?

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Who said this one, you don't
have it listed for me, I don't

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know.
No, it looks like it.

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Sounds bitter.
So it's actually Ernest,

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Hemingway Ernest, Hemingway.
Okay, again, you giving me all

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the alcoholic quotes with, that
means opaque bitter, tongue

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numbing brain, warming stomach
warming idea, changing liquid,

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Alchemy, it's supposed to rot
your brain out, but I don't

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believe it.
It only changes the ideas.

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That is very Earnest, Hemingway
of them.

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So ultimately I was Very popular
with the artistic crowd and very

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popular just in general with the
blight that happened in those

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Vineyards.
So people were drinking it left

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and right but all good things
must come to an end.

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And now that I have you both
liquored up sufficiently, I

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thought I'd bring us back to a
warm summer morning on August

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28th, in 1905, so picture this.
Okay, you guys are both in a

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tiny rural town in Switzerland
and you're getting ready to join

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your friend for a day of Manual
labor, so Jean Le Frey.

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He's a Frenchman who has a
pregnant wife at home in two

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small children.
So when he meets you in the

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morning smelling of absinthe,
you know, you look past it,

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maybe he had a night, I needed a
little pick-me-up, he's French

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and, and knocking a couple of
classes, the green fairy back

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isn't really a stretch for them.
So, lunch time rolls around and

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you both enjoy a sandwich, near
a Vineyard, and the dude has one

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too.
Six classes of strong wine

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before returning for work.
And as you leave after the long

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day of manual labor, he stops by
The Vineyard to knock back

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another glass.
And then you think, you know,

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fucking does this.
Dude have a problem?

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So yeah, I think I thought about
the fourth glass after lunch.

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Yeah, it's a definite.
Have it, right?

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So the phrase stops by the cafe
on a, by a cafe, on the way

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home.
And then he has some coffee with

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Brandy.
And then at home, he finishes a

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whole leader of wine and his
wife sees this and is fucking

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over it because I'm sure this
isn't the first time it happens,

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right?
Right.

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So yeah, have it.
Definitely love it.

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So she's been dealing with two
small children's all day.

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Prego, it's fucking hot outside
and with this dude who's drunk

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as fuck?
And it's not a cute So, she

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calls him lazy and he told her
to shut up.

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She actually told him to make
her.

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So what did he do?
He took his loaded rifle from

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the wall and shot her through
the forehead and the one I know

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it's fucked up well, because
well, so he's yeah.

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So he's after he's fucked up.
He's had what tooth two things

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of absinthe in the morning?
One or two glass, six glasses

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during lunch.
CH another glass of wine strong.

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All strong.
Wine coffee with Brandi.

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Yep.
And a leader of one and then a

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liter of wine all in one day and
we probably forgot something.

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Because we've been drinking too.
Right.

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Right.
So little work day.

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So then he, then he gets some
grief from his wife got you

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know, she should just be in the
kitchen, you know, making him a

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goddamn sandwich apparently.
So he took that loaded rifle,

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shot her through the forehead
when his daughter Rose.

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Who was small came in to
investigate he shot her too and

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then he went to the Next Room
walked to the crib where his

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other daughter Blanche was and
he shot her but he then shot

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himself in the jaw.
Carried Blanche is body out to

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the Garden where he collapsed.
So he's in the garden.

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Everyone's dead.
The cops actually found him

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alive and he was taken to a
hospital where unfortunately he

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fucking lived and he stated
Please tell me.

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I haven't done this.
I loved my family and children

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so much.
Yeah, sure.

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You did.
You fucking creep?

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So the public was fascinated
with the story, right?

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Family, annihilators, this
happens all the time.

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He killed his entire family all
the time.

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It actually does happen.
Chris W here in Colorado.

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Yeah, Chris Benoit.
Yes, yeah.

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Hmm.
He was a wrestler.

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I was just thinking this guy was
like, the original madman.

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Like spend your whole working
day drinking and then go home

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and B.
Abusive and unloving towards

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your wife.
He took it to another level

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unfortunately.
Yeah, it's awful.

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And you know, the public becomes
fascinated with stories like

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this and as Le Frey was put on
trial, people were following

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really fucking close.
He did what any family

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Annihilator does found a
scapegoat and cling on for dear

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life, how can I make sense of
this?

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What is it?
That, you know, cause me to do

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this so he blamed the absent
Stating that it was the

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hallucinogenic, drink that's
caused him to kill his family

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and the newspapers dubbed, this
incident the absinthe murders

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God.
So I mean come on what a sexy

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like you know newspaper, that's
right, it's a good, it's a

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great, it's gonna sell, lots of
papers, people are just hanging

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on clinging onto every word and
I'm feeling this shit.

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I haven't drank that much
people.

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Like and you're gonna go, I
wanna try that.

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It actually, I mean, it does
start to Is better.

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The more you drink?
I will learn that to its credit.

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I've been taking a few small
sips throughout that story

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because yeah, so definitely I
know, it's so it's so fucked up.

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So ultimately the trial started
on the 23rd of February in 1906

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and it actually ended the same
day.

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So the phrase attorneys had
argued that, those two ounces of

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absinthe was to blame for his
Ian's.

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Yeah I know he actually got a a
leading Swiss psychologist

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testify stating the
ferociousness of temper and

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blind rage has that made him
shoot his wife for nothing and

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his poor two children whom he
loved.

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Yeah.
So they were blaming everything

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on absinthe and on on the what
42 ounces for ounces, not that

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not all of the mind that he had
the date that that same day, the

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Leaders of wine.
Ultimately, he was found guilty

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on four counts of murder crazy.
Damn.

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I was gonna do some crazy shit
today and hope to get away with

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it.
Well, I mean, you could

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potentially, I think that you
may, I don't know.

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Not, I guess you probably
haven't had four hours.

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I mean, I was going to take an
Uber to do, said, crazy shit.

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I wasn't going crazy.
We're good.

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So so he actually was found
guilty on four counts.

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Oz of murder and then he hung
himself three days later in his

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prison cell good.
Yeah, good, that's good.

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Right, right?
Good, yes, everything's really

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stories.
He could get.

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I mean, but the problem is, you
have all of these people.

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The public is incensed.
They've been following this

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anytime you have family,
annihilators, who kill

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themselves.
People are questioning.

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Why is there anything we could
do?

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How can we prevent it from
happening again?

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You know.
So, you know, the public had to

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do something.
And you have prohibitionists

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people were on their fucking
soap boxes saying, you know,

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Liquors bad people, shouldn't be
drinking.

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It's like, you know, if you can
control yourself, then fucking

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drink as far as I'm concerned.
Right.

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But they ceased on this
opportunity to make it political

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sure.
And to try to they do, right?

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As they always do as they always
do.

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So they wanted to ban absinthe
specifically because it was it

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was stated That these were the
absinthe murders and that's what

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caused this this whole Rampage
from happening.

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There are also other murders
that were happening in France,

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and other countries, and absent.
Ultimately, if you're asking me,

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no one's asking me.
But I'm fucking saying

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everything absinthe is not to
blame, right?

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It's the copious amounts of
alcohol that people are drinking

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that make them.
People are to blame, right?

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It's yeah, yeah.
It's as simple as that, right.

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A fire is a fire.
Add fuel to the fire.

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Just a Our fire like literal
fuel that we just tested alcohol

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and drugs.
They just make you more of what

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you already are.
If you were an asshole, it makes

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you more of an asshole.
If You're a murderer, is

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asshole.
It's going to be a celebrity

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turn you into a murderer?
No.

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No, but it's such an easy
scapegoat, it's such a total

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thing exactly to just say, okay,
this is how we're going to try

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to, you know, fix the problem
for thing to not take

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responsibility for, that's
right.

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Own actions, of course.
So ultimately they Tried like

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people who are prohibitionists
were Banning wanting to bat ban

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absent.
They got 82 thousand signatures,

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which is a lot in Switzerland on
a petition leading to that ban.

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It actually made it a that
happened in 1906 and it made it

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effective in 1910.
So there were, there was

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legislation all throughout
Europe and even in the United

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States because what do what does
the US do best?

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Press and well, yes.
Let's see what about like,

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putting your nose into other
people's fucking business, like

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countries individuals, whatever.
Yeah, so we're like, oh yeah,

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absinthe is a problem over
there.

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Let's ban it here, too.
Not even that.

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The same thing here, it's not,
it's not as much like they're

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actually, there is an absinthe
bar in New Orleans that they

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were trying to close down.
They actually bricked it up in

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New Orleans.
But wait a minute, I'm sorry to

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interrupt you but don't but not
all absinthe is made out of this

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hallucinogen.
Yes it does.

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All of it has wormwood in it it
does huh?

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Yeah.
For some reason, I thought that

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it wasn't very Well, regulated,
the liquor, like, like the

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distillers were not were not
regulated very well.

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So this is kind of getting off a
little bit of what I want to

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talk about, but I've research
anyway, so, so I know about it

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but a lot of times.
So this was so popular.

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It was a really great way to
make a quick buck.

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So, you know, you had your
distiller.

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There weren't a lot of rules or
laws on what you could put in

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there.
So people were like, okay well

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add some absinthe into it, like
the wormwood Sent.

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Then we're going to add some
other shit into it.

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That's going to really fuck with
people's brains and so so like

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they were cutting it with a lot
of shit.

452
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:31,000
A lot of like think of it's
another like oh what is it?

453
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,600
That everyone's addicted to
right now.

454
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,700
Oh not heroin but the fentanyl
phenomenal.

455
00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:39,300
Yeah.
So you put a little bit of

456
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:42,200
Fentanyl and heroin and then it
makes it really or any drug,

457
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,200
right?
And makes it incredibly strong?

458
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:46,600
Yeah.
So, you know, they're cutting it

459
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,400
with things that will make get
incredibly strong.

460
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,500
Still give people these effects,
but maybe not cost as much, so

461
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:56,500
it was not very well regulated.
So if we were to drink that

462
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,200
bottle, would we start
hallucinating?

463
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,100
It's really strong in in
alcohol, right?

464
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,600
And like any kind of medicinal
herb.

465
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,000
It can fuck with you and poison.
You just like, I don't know.

466
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,100
Mushrooms mushrooms are
technically hallucinogens, the

467
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,200
right poison.
Yeah, right.

468
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Same thing.
With this Herb in large

469
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,300
quantities.
It can do the same.

470
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,500
Thing, so it can have
hallucinogenic effects.

471
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,600
If you have an all this bottle
is actually like it's the same

472
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,400
distiller from 1875, and this is
the same recipe that they had.

473
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:30,600
It is.
Yeah.

474
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,800
This one is its this is from.
Ah, so you're going to start

475
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,500
hallucinating?
Well, I just started moving yet.

476
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,200
And I've been sippin throughout
this entire.

477
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:42,500
That's I mean, not yet, I guess,
but people, those people were

478
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:44,800
drinking them in vast
quantities, right here.

479
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,300
So we're not drinking that 25
slowly slowly.

480
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,200
Every single day.
Exactly.

481
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,400
And you don't have to do
anything else, so as far as

482
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,200
like, the wormwood goes, yes, it
is a hallucinogenic, like

483
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,200
there's hallucinogenic effects
to it, but really the problem

484
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,300
was that the distillers didn't
have any rules or regulations,

485
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,500
guiding them through.
How, what is absinthe, how much

486
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:09,800
does it have to have of all of
these ingredients?

487
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,700
The real good old days, right?
Where you just fuck people's up

488
00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:17,500
people up and put 0.
This much put holes in their

489
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,100
brain.
It's Fine.

490
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:23,900
So ultimately, because of these
absinthe murders that were

491
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:28,200
happening and people putting the
blame on absinthe, they started

492
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,600
to regulate the industry.
It was legislation changed.

493
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,000
How the liquor was made in
distilled, but that was not

494
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000
enough for the public.
So in by 1912 most of the

495
00:28:38,008 --> 00:28:42,200
European countries and the us
because, you know, we get into

496
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,600
everyone's business, dubbed the
green fairy, the green devil,

497
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,200
and outlawed it in any and all
forms.

498
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400
So absinthe was you could not do
any illegal, it was totally

499
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,300
legal because as we all know,
outlawing something definitely

500
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:58,500
makes people stop.
Holy words, doesn't it all make

501
00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:00,200
any like oh they outlawed that
we hold?

502
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,100
They were headed.
What is it?

503
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:08,300
I've never, I've never, I've
never heard that.

504
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,200
So, fortunately people bootlegs
the liquor and countries like

505
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,800
Spain and the Czech Republic,
still made absinthe during that

506
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,400
time when it Is illegal.
So when the drink was marketed

507
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,800
to the UK, in the 90s, the
1990s, by a Czech Republic

508
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,300
company, many countries started,
revisiting the Antiquated,

509
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:35,000
absinthe regulations and bands,
and revised them to allow

510
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,100
absinthe to, to be something
that could be consumed again in

511
00:29:38,108 --> 00:29:41,400
these countries, Switzerland
actually lifted the ban on

512
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,800
absinthe, which is where this
murder took place and on the

513
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,200
production and sale of it in
March 2005.

514
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,000
Which is pretty recent France.
Actually only allows the label

515
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:56,000
absinthe on products that are
destined for exports.

516
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,800
So even if people are still
making absent, it can't be

517
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,600
called absinthe or say absinthe
on the bottle, which is pretty

518
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,800
interesting absent.
Produced for local consumption,

519
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,300
just carries the label.
You know, it's, it's a spirit

520
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:15,800
that has absinthe in it or
wormwood right, Bey Spirits.

521
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:20,000
So so the van so dumb.
Bottle can still say absinthe,

522
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,500
but it has to say a spirit with
a base, derived from absolutely.

523
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400
Yeah, because people still have
those crazy, you know, ideas

524
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,400
behind absent, that it's a huge
hallucinogenic that it's going

525
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,100
to cause people, to do bad
things that it's, you know, it's

526
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,300
not something that normal people
would drink.

527
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,000
So, you know, they have those
those stupid labels on it, but,

528
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,400
after nearly 100 years, absinthe
is Alive.

529
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:53,700
And Well, I got this in a local.
Oil wine shop and it's from 1875

530
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:57,700
made in USA, Switzerland Austria
made in Austria so it's the

531
00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:59,600
traditional historical roulette
recipe.

532
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,200
Well made.
So I mean we live in Colorado

533
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,600
and on the ballot speaking of
hallucinogenics.

534
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,600
Yes I mean it's no different.
Like the you said then shrooms

535
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,400
no I don't think it is.
Yeah I mean shrooms probably has

536
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,600
so the okay truly does have
more.

537
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:22,200
Oh you're Mormon that's like
cleans me to like my experience

538
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,600
with absent because when I first
did like the reason I did it is

539
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,200
because I'd heard that it made
you lose and I was like, I was

540
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,800
probably like 21 or 22 and I'd
never done it loose in a gym

541
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,600
before him.
Cool.

542
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,300
Let's see what this is and all
that happened was, I got drunk

543
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:38,700
and I was impressed that I had
to drink black, licorice flavor,

544
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,800
alcohol to get drunk but you
know, I didn't see anything

545
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,200
cool.
And then when I finally at some

546
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,000
point tried mushrooms I was like
this was what I was looking for

547
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,500
and you didn't have to taste
black licorice and nowadays, you

548
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:52,900
know, in Colorado.
You can just swallow some

549
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:55,500
capsules that have ground up
mushrooms in them and it's, you

550
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,700
know, easy peasy, you don't have
to eat those nasty.

551
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:02,100
Yeah, yeah case taste and my,
you know what's bizarre I was

552
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,900
That punk rock show a couple
weekends ago and as I was

553
00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:09,700
walking into the venue, this guy
had at were in Denver Colorado.

554
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:13,000
This guy had like these little
plastic baggies and was selling

555
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,200
like, just right out in the
open, just right out in the

556
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,700
open.
Like, right there.

557
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:20,400
As we were, as we were walking
into the venue.

558
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,200
He's like, hey, does anyone
want?

559
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,100
But see, here's the proper easy.
Yeah, we're getting off topic

560
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:29,500
but this isn't, you know, know
so, um, But the problem is when

561
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:32,600
you keep buy stuff, now you
don't have to know what's in it.

562
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,500
You don't know that's that's the
scary part.

563
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:40,800
Like back in the day, back in
the 80s, showing my age like you

564
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,700
could go buy something.
You like knew what you were

565
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:45,700
getting you were buying what you
are buying and nowadays, like,

566
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:48,000
it could be that or just
something totally different.

567
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,800
Hmm.
Oh yeah, with something or, I

568
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,300
mean it's the same.
It's the exact same thing as

569
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:57,200
fucking no absent that's that's
was part of the problem.

570
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,700
Was that you I know what you
were getting.

571
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:02,900
People were producing it at such
a high rate, such a velocity

572
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:05,000
that you could put anything in
there.

573
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,300
Yeah.
And mix it with some weird shit

574
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,500
and people would be losing their
minds.

575
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,700
That's why Banning it and
deregulating.

576
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:15,300
It is actually more dangerous
than just allowing a fee, for

577
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,900
sure regulated.
That's right, you know, that's

578
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,000
right produce in a way that you
know what's going into a, you

579
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,100
know what you're getting and if
you don't want to do it, don't

580
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:22,800
do it.
Yeah.

581
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:25,600
Right.
The real the real question like

582
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,900
talking about this right now is
When are we going to have the

583
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:31,400
Shrew murders?
Right.

584
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,500
I like like for someone like
hallucinates on shrooms.

585
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:37,000
That's my point.
Yeah.

586
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,600
There's the be no different.
And honestly, that was like,

587
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,800
wouldn't like the first time I
tried it.

588
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,800
That was one of my anxieties
going into it, like, what if

589
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,700
this is a bad trip?
What if I start like peeling my

590
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,400
skin off?
Because I think I'm an orange or

591
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,300
something like that.
And that's not the case at all.

592
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:55,000
Like you actually have to like
Work to keep yourself awake and

593
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,800
moving forward in any way.
I don't think I could commit a

594
00:33:59,808 --> 00:34:01,000
murder.
I don't even think I could have

595
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,600
a wrestling match but of course,
that is something like that is

596
00:34:05,608 --> 00:34:07,000
going to happen.
Yeah.

597
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,800
Right.
And then, and then what made me

598
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,699
did it?
Yeah.

599
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:11,400
Yeah.
The the shrimp made me do it

600
00:34:11,408 --> 00:34:16,100
forces going to happen?
This absence is it dude, it's

601
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:21,400
pretty strong.
I've been following the

602
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,100
instructions.
Slade out by Hemingway.

603
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,400
Very slowly.
Very, very slowly.

604
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,199
So that's that's actually the
episode.

605
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:33,800
Wow, pastimes fascinating.
Yeah and I'm feeling pretty

606
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:37,100
intoxicated.
This point feeling having me

607
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:41,000
over feeling tingly posting that
on the internet for all to see.

608
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,300
I appreciate it.
You're having fun to have a

609
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:54,199
little late.
Exactly.

610
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:56,900
Actually I had a couple of like
show notes and stuff will have

611
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:02,900
will have any any links to the
articles that I used in our show

612
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:05,500
notes on our website.
It was RAF.com good.

613
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:07,600
And I say, yeah, I'm looking
through the here and I see you

614
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,500
have several links.
So and a picture of that artist

615
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:13,400
that we were talking about,
getting all fucked up on

616
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,000
absinthe.
So I just pretty fun.

617
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,300
Thank you guys for joining me
today and enjoying the green

618
00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:23,900
fairy.
Thank you for the The fun stuff

619
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:27,000
and I'm too tired to.
I took like two sips of this

620
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,200
thing.
I knew that was gonna happen.

621
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,700
That's why I was like, I'm not
gonna put anything in there,

622
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,900
right?
But I'm not, I don't know if I'm

623
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,600
making it up, but I do feel a
little buzzed, like a fairy got

624
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,600
you.
I think it's, I think that shit

625
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,100
is hard core while lit it on
fire.

626
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:46,500
I course it is.
I'm talking about cool.

627
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,200
Well, thanks so much for joining
us, Andrew.

628
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,700
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Yeah, awesome.

629
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,600
I think we're going to have
another episode next weekend.

630
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,100
Just going to join us.
Yeah.

631
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:57,900
Below weeks.
Yes, for that episode.

632
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,500
It's actually and it's a fun
one.

633
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:02,500
It's a really fun one.
It's on conspiracy theories

634
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,700
involving Denver so stoked about
that.

635
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:09,700
Yep.
So we'll catch y'all in a couple

636
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:13,000
of weeks, it's on the flips,
have a great day.