Absinthe - The Green Fairy

0:38 Well, hello, my friends. This is episode. I don't know 45. Something of the bizarre AF and I'll be your host today with me is my co-host with the most Kevin. How are you doing? Hola Senoritas. And just like, before we find ourselves here, to talk about the strange, the unbelievable. And you got it, the bazaar lucky us, we have a guest in our studio today. Our dear friend and fellow theater nerd, Andrew Neary. Hello, thank you for having me, y'all. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule. To get weird with us.

1:19 Yeah, thank you so much, you're welcome. So we've known and Andrew for how long have you known and reporter Kevin? It's been years. 2015, is she, yeah, we enter. So what happened was? We met in a Edition. Hmm, and the director made him kiss me, okay? Because the play is kiss miss Spider Woman, if you've ever seen the movie or the play, it's really, really, really good. And so, yeah, she made him do. Seen Jamie. But anyway that's how we met and then afterwards asked me, so tell me why did you kiss?

2:03 Kevin said, because the script old trick question, I do what I'm told. That's right. Okay so for today I thought we would talk about the green fairy Is the green fairy. Yeah, it's green. Fairy is like another word or another term for Absinthe. They called her the green fairy, so she kind of like made you hallucinate like that. She's actually a Dame who cursed and caused many ills from fighting contaminated, water sources, to causing psychotic, episodes that end in mud.

2:44 God, this actually led to a Prohibition style ban and Europe. And if you know, you know, the Europeans Banning liquor is a fucking big deal, right? So if you guys ever heard of the stuff, Absinthe. Okay I personally like no bueno but it doesn't, it have like sometimes it can have hallucinogenics in it. Right? Like warm wood or something weird like that wormwood. Is that was one of the active ingredients. Yeah. Okay hmm. So you're right on the money, what about you? And Joe, yeah, definitely have heard of it and tried it by itself. And in cocktails, I'm not huge on the licorice flavor, which kind of comes through a pretty heavy on it. But there are some cocktails at its The good mixed into and I was actually really disappointed.

3:29 The first time I had it when I found out, oh, when you get in the u.s., it actually doesn't have any of the hallucinogenic properties and it just the like, so what's the point? We're not going to hallucinate, you know, my first time, actually, like trying or not, trying absent. Because I was a goody two-shoes. I would not try absinthe until it was legal, but it was Moulin Rouge. I was the first First time but I had even heard of it experience with the to Kylie Minogue. Yeah. It's very, she was the great. Did you ever watch Moulin Rouge? Yeah. Yeah. So the green fairy like is in it. It's that's part of what I want the movie, the movie.

4:09 Yeah. When the whole troop toulouse-lautrec Ewan McGregor, whatever. Kylie Minogue is in this they all take absent and they start hallucinating Kylie. Minogue is a green fairy dancing around. Cute. Yes sheet. Okay wow no joke. That's in my notes. I had like okay, I knew it and she looked like Tinker Bell. Okay. Yeah, just for there. Listening one other movie that I saw it in and see from hell with Johnny Depp, he does it too. He's a detective and tripping out on absent. Helps him find Jack the Ripper. Okay, so, my only experience with her before trying to just say things like, oh, I need to try this. Yeah, great. He made it look really cool. Yeah, it does look really, really cool when you have those, I was like in the Christian club and Stuff. So, when I saw that I'm like, oh my God, what is, what is this? Absolutely.

4:58 It's because there's a cool ritual with the preparation, everything. And it's a thing. It's a total thing. Okay. So actually, you know, as far as like the history goes, the active ingredient in absinthe is wormwood and it sounds like it's something out of Harry Potter, but it's a real plant that in large quantities. Can be lethal or poisonous but when diluted it can be used for medicinal purposes. So the pick the plan that I'm specifically talking about is Wormwood hence absinthe, okay, the name. So, in the Middle Ages, it was actually used to spice Mead and to put in chicken nesting boxes like to prevent from from like lice and mites and Vermin stuff like that. And actually Shakespeare, even spoke of its bitters use in and weaning in the infamous Romeo and Juliet.

5:46 So Andrew, can you please put on your thespian hats and read what Juliet's nurse said regarding wormwood of course? Oh, this is the nurse wonderful. This is traditional having a man for a head then laid wormwood to my dug. What do you guys think? That means for, I had been laid, wormwood to my dug. I don't, let's argue Doug. I don't really want to know what she's trying to keep Burma. Now, she's trying to wean Juliet She's putting wormwood on her Doug. A Doug is a she's trick. Go ahead and say Sir private part. It's a private part her nipples. Yes. It's her nipples but it does sound like it's like the other drugs. Like would she be hallucinating from like absorbing the wormwood through the nipples?

6:35 That's a great question it. Well, what, what they were saying is that they would put that wormwood on the nipple because it was super bitter. And as we can Because I made us cocktails, it's like a more of a bitter sent, okay? And and taste. So I the nipples so that maybe wouldn't want to win. It's to get the baby to stop to stop rescue. No, I'm not. Oh yeah, sorry about that. I wasn't that was a bad assumption on my part. So so the absence liquor that we actually know about really gained popularity in 1844 during the Algerian, War of independence.

7:16 So that was France trying to take over Colonial. Colonial e like Algeria and ultimately what you guys need to know is one, it was not until February 22nd 1845, the country was secured and military operations stop so and then to the French troops received daily rations of absinthe they'll look or to prevent sickness from contaminated water and stuff like that and they started to get a For it. So we're just going to fast forward to 1863 and during that time there was a grapevine parasite that affected all of the grape vines in European Vineyards. Actually 90% of the European burn Vineyards and the loss of wine was absence gain because a lot of French soldiers.

8:03 Had a taste for it so the like no wine will have absent. Yeah. There's no wine available or it's incredibly expensive. So yeah, I'm just going to adieu absinthe and its really fucking strong absent. This really strong so you get more bang for your buck. So, speaking of, I'm actually a little thirsty. I wanted to taste a little bit of what these little Frenchie's, dudes loved. So I made you both a cocktail. Kevin yours has extra absent because I know how much you love it. Okay, so this is actually death in the afternoon. I've made it before for Kevin, he's not a fan. The face, the face of it all but it was, I thought it was just too on the nose for this podcast and for someone who appreciates literature, this is actually an Ernest Hemingway's drink, it's his drink that he created me, he said, Andrew could you pour could you tell me what the quite is? Absolutely poor.

9:05 One jigger absinthe into a champagne glass at iced champagne, until it attains, the proper opalescent milkiness drink 3, 25 of these slowly. I remember that quote, I remember that. What? Yes. 335 definitely an Ernest Hemingway instruction. It definitely is so, so, cheers, guys, for the green fairy. Let's hope that one of you hallucinates. God, I'm speaking mainly to us because honestly, you don't have very much. Mmm really goes. It's great. I mean, it tastes medicinal, doesn't it? Mmm.

9:45 Okay thought. Okay, tell me, what are you guys thinking? I don't need to tell you what I'm thinking. I'm just I love to drink cocktails me, too. I just do not like Licorice. And that is really a licorice hardcore man. It's just one of those things. You either love it or you hate it. And if you love it, you love it. If you hate it you love it Alicia. I'm not gonna waste it. Do you like black licorice? I do. I do have to like black licorice? Licorice to eat drink this? Yeah and actually like for a lot of cocktails they call for it just being rinsed. Like the glasses being rinsed with it. Okay. I can I have like a hint of that I can get.

10:26 Yeah, but you got you guys a layer of flavor but yeah, this is like a new portable. Yeah, you guys got like a full-on shot. I'm sorry. Yeah. Well we We're getting the full. Yeah, the full effects of it so we make have had cocktails with absinthe in it before. That was that we're actually really good like it's as our act like we were talking about earlier it's so you're saying death in the afternoon is not good not me. Oh yeah another not because I don't like it, I just don't right right everybody. Bourbon and beer. Kind of guy. That's like a total dude. Yeah, exactly. But and then like the Sazerac though, it's rye whiskey and Bitters and And I thought it was great when I had it but the burden does a lot of work to cover up that licorice.

11:11 Yeah. Yeah, it does. It totally does. I mean, I like it but it's, I get I get, it's not everyone's taste. So it again. Yeah. I'm gonna let it go to waste this. Great good. And I bought an entire bottle, but which I will all be taking home with me, laughs. Yeah, to you have to drink experience, very slow. With that that's that's what I Ernest Hemingway's telling you if Ernest Hemingway's telling you to drink something snow, slow it has to be power. So I already told you guys that the French soldiers actually had a taste for it and they would mix it in their wine actually. So we're talking anyone.

11:51 They'd mix it in their wine. The absence with their wine. Yeah. So it's like, I didn't matter. No, anything like it. However, you can, Kevin can actually tell me the alcohol alcohol percentage on it. Yeah, this says a whole 60, Five percent shit. Yeah and we have a car that 30 proof that's what it says right there. So that's flammable like that. So my God we could light this on fire. Yeah. You want to we have a flame. Yeah let's do it. Where's the shot? Glass. All right here, this will be fun. That's what, like, okay. Like, shrimp. I forgot about that.

12:34 Okay. Kevin We're going to try to yeah. Light it on fire which are those sure? Scared. No, maybe it's not high enough. Oh yeah, nice to the flame. Oh God, it is cold. It is ice skating. See like the heat off of it. Holy shit. Holy on fire. I wish the flame was green. Oh my gosh. It is on fire. Oh, that would be really cool. Oh great. This is not a great idea. How do you know if it's still on fire? You can hardly see it? No, it's not. I think. Oh my gosh, we just light light up the whole story.

13:16 Okay, wow. So it's really not. Yeah, no from. So I'm here to help. So it was so popular actually cafes where people would ask for invert, which is a green. And then the early evening actually became known as the green, our where you could smell the absinthe in the air. I'm sure you could it's really strong. So going back to how we knew about the green fairy. It was actually very popular with a specific group of poets and Tests in France because it made him all cry cry. Right, right. We're talking about toulouse-lautrec actually Manet painted and an absent. The absinthe Drinker, which we all have in our show notes, a link to the painting and he was really painting, absinthe in the attack intoxication.

14:05 Like realistically, one of his mentor's, Thomas could tour said to him o, my poor friend, you are an absinthe Drinker, is it? You have. Us your moral faculty. And then, you know, ultimately or another, one actually said must be drunk, always with wine poetry or with virtue your choice, but intoxicated yourself, that was Charles baudelaire. Those of you who don't know, you sounded just like yes yes yes yes. So ultimately absinthe appealed to those who valued, you know Liberation Allah Moulin Rouge which we were talking about so I just thought there would be really nice to go through a couple of additional quotes by artists at the time about absence, Okay? Kevin, yeah.

14:58 So, Oscar Wilde declared a glass of applicants absinthe political as anything in the world, what difference is there between a glass of absinthe and the sunset? It's good question. Andrew? Who said this one, you don't have it listed for me, I don't know. No, it looks like it. Sounds bitter. So it's actually Ernest, Hemingway Ernest, Hemingway. Okay, again, you giving me all the alcoholic quotes with, that means opaque bitter, tongue numbing brain, warming stomach warming idea, changing liquid, Alchemy, it's supposed to rot your brain out, but I don't believe it. It only changes the ideas.

15:44 That is very Earnest, Hemingway of them. So ultimately I was Very popular with the artistic crowd and very popular just in general with the blight that happened in those Vineyards. So people were drinking it left and right but all good things must come to an end. And now that I have you both liquored up sufficiently, I thought I'd bring us back to a warm summer morning on August 28th, in 1905, so picture this. Okay, you guys are both in a tiny rural town in Switzerland and you're getting ready to join your friend for a day of Manual labor, so Jean Le Frey. He's a Frenchman who has a pregnant wife at home in two small children. So when he meets you in the morning smelling of absinthe, you know, you look past it, maybe he had a night, I needed a little pick-me-up, he's French and, and knocking a couple of classes, the green fairy back isn't really a stretch for them. So, lunch time rolls around and you both enjoy a sandwich, near a Vineyard, and the dude has one too. Six classes of strong wine before returning for work. And as you leave after the long day of manual labor, he stops by The Vineyard to knock back another glass. And then you think, you know, fucking does this. Dude have a problem?

17:05 So yeah, I think I thought about the fourth glass after lunch. Yeah, it's a definite. Have it, right? So the phrase stops by the cafe on a, by a cafe, on the way home. And then he has some coffee with Brandy. And then at home, he finishes a whole leader of wine and his wife sees this and is fucking over it because I'm sure this isn't the first time it happens, right? Right. So yeah, have it. Definitely love it. So she's been dealing with two small children's all day. Prego, it's fucking hot outside and with this dude who's drunk as fuck? And it's not a cute So, she calls him lazy and he told her to shut up.

17:53 She actually told him to make her. So what did he do? He took his loaded rifle from the wall and shot her through the forehead and the one I know it's fucked up well, because well, so he's yeah. So he's after he's fucked up. He's had what tooth two things of absinthe in the morning? One or two glass, six glasses during lunch. CH another glass of wine strong. All strong. Wine coffee with Brandi. Yep. And a leader of one and then a liter of wine all in one day and we probably forgot something. Because we've been drinking too. Right. Right. So little work day.

18:34 So then he, then he gets some grief from his wife got you know, she should just be in the kitchen, you know, making him a goddamn sandwich apparently. So he took that loaded rifle, shot her through the forehead when his daughter Rose. Who was small came in to investigate he shot her too and then he went to the Next Room walked to the crib where his other daughter Blanche was and he shot her but he then shot himself in the jaw. Carried Blanche is body out to the Garden where he collapsed. So he's in the garden. Everyone's dead. The cops actually found him alive and he was taken to a hospital where unfortunately he fucking lived and he stated Please tell me.

19:20 I haven't done this. I loved my family and children so much. Yeah, sure. You did. You fucking creep? So the public was fascinated with the story, right? Family, annihilators, this happens all the time. He killed his entire family all the time. It actually does happen. Chris W here in Colorado. Yeah, Chris Benoit. Yes, yeah. Hmm. He was a wrestler. I was just thinking this guy was like, the original madman. Like spend your whole working day drinking and then go home and B. Abusive and unloving towards your wife. He took it to another level unfortunately. Yeah, it's awful. And you know, the public becomes fascinated with stories like this and as Le Frey was put on trial, people were following really fucking close. He did what any family Annihilator does found a scapegoat and cling on for dear life, how can I make sense of this?

20:12 What is it? That, you know, cause me to do this so he blamed the absent Stating that it was the hallucinogenic, drink that's caused him to kill his family and the newspapers dubbed, this incident the absinthe murders God. So I mean come on what a sexy like you know newspaper, that's right, it's a good, it's a great, it's gonna sell, lots of papers, people are just hanging on clinging onto every word and I'm feeling this shit. I haven't drank that much people. Like and you're gonna go, I wanna try that. It actually, I mean, it does start to Is better. The more you drink? I will learn that to its credit.

20:54 I've been taking a few small sips throughout that story because yeah, so definitely I know, it's so it's so fucked up. So ultimately the trial started on the 23rd of February in 1906 and it actually ended the same day. So the phrase attorneys had argued that, those two ounces of absinthe was to blame for his Ian's. Yeah I know he actually got a a leading Swiss psychologist testify stating the ferociousness of temper and blind rage has that made him shoot his wife for nothing and his poor two children whom he loved. Yeah. So they were blaming everything on absinthe and on on the what 42 ounces for ounces, not that not all of the mind that he had the date that that same day, the Leaders of wine. Ultimately, he was found guilty on four counts of murder crazy. Damn.

21:58 I was gonna do some crazy shit today and hope to get away with it. Well, I mean, you could potentially, I think that you may, I don't know. Not, I guess you probably haven't had four hours. I mean, I was going to take an Uber to do, said, crazy shit. I wasn't going crazy. We're good. So so he actually was found guilty on four counts. Oz of murder and then he hung himself three days later in his prison cell good. Yeah, good, that's good. Right, right? Good, yes, everything's really stories. He could get. I mean, but the problem is, you have all of these people. The public is incensed. They've been following this anytime you have family, annihilators, who kill themselves. People are questioning.

22:41 Why is there anything we could do? How can we prevent it from happening again? You know. So, you know, the public had to do something. And you have prohibitionists people were on their fucking soap boxes saying, you know, Liquors bad people, shouldn't be drinking. It's like, you know, if you can control yourself, then fucking drink as far as I'm concerned. Right. But they ceased on this opportunity to make it political sure. And to try to they do, right? As they always do as they always do. So they wanted to ban absinthe specifically because it was it was stated That these were the absinthe murders and that's what caused this this whole Rampage from happening.

23:25 There are also other murders that were happening in France, and other countries, and absent. Ultimately, if you're asking me, no one's asking me. But I'm fucking saying everything absinthe is not to blame, right? It's the copious amounts of alcohol that people are drinking that make them. People are to blame, right? It's yeah, yeah. It's as simple as that, right. A fire is a fire. Add fuel to the fire. Just a Our fire like literal fuel that we just tested alcohol and drugs. They just make you more of what you already are. If you were an asshole, it makes you more of an asshole. If You're a murderer, is asshole. It's going to be a celebrity turn you into a murderer? No. No, but it's such an easy scapegoat, it's such a total thing exactly to just say, okay, this is how we're going to try to, you know, fix the problem for thing to not take responsibility for, that's right.

24:13 Own actions, of course. So ultimately they Tried like people who are prohibitionists were Banning wanting to bat ban absent. They got 82 thousand signatures, which is a lot in Switzerland on a petition leading to that ban. It actually made it a that happened in 1906 and it made it effective in 1910. So there were, there was legislation all throughout Europe and even in the United States because what do what does the US do best? Press and well, yes. Let's see what about like, putting your nose into other people's fucking business, like countries individuals, whatever. Yeah, so we're like, oh yeah, absinthe is a problem over there.

25:16 Let's ban it here, too. Not even that. The same thing here, it's not, it's not as much like they're actually, there is an absinthe bar in New Orleans that they were trying to close down. They actually bricked it up in New Orleans. But wait a minute, I'm sorry to interrupt you but don't but not all absinthe is made out of this hallucinogen. Yes it does. All of it has wormwood in it it does huh? Yeah. For some reason, I thought that it wasn't very Well, regulated, the liquor, like, like the distillers were not were not regulated very well. So this is kind of getting off a little bit of what I want to talk about, but I've research anyway, so, so I know about it but a lot of times. So this was so popular.

26:05 It was a really great way to make a quick buck. So, you know, you had your distiller. There weren't a lot of rules or laws on what you could put in there. So people were like, okay well add some absinthe into it, like the wormwood Sent. Then we're going to add some other shit into it. That's going to really fuck with people's brains and so so like they were cutting it with a lot of shit. A lot of like think of it's another like oh what is it? That everyone's addicted to right now. Oh not heroin but the fentanyl phenomenal. Yeah. So you put a little bit of Fentanyl and heroin and then it makes it really or any drug, right? And makes it incredibly strong? Yeah. So, you know, they're cutting it with things that will make get incredibly strong.

26:49 Still give people these effects, but maybe not cost as much, so it was not very well regulated. So if we were to drink that bottle, would we start hallucinating? It's really strong in in alcohol, right? And like any kind of medicinal herb. It can fuck with you and poison. You just like, I don't know. Mushrooms mushrooms are technically hallucinogens, the right poison. Yeah, right. Same thing. With this Herb in large quantities. It can do the same. Thing, so it can have hallucinogenic effects. If you have an all this bottle is actually like it's the same distiller from 1875, and this is the same recipe that they had.

27:29 It is. Yeah. This one is its this is from. Ah, so you're going to start hallucinating? Well, I just started moving yet. And I've been sippin throughout this entire. That's I mean, not yet, I guess, but people, those people were drinking them in vast quantities, right here. So we're not drinking that 25 slowly slowly. Every single day. Exactly. And you don't have to do anything else, so as far as like, the wormwood goes, yes, it is a hallucinogenic, like there's hallucinogenic effects to it, but really the problem was that the distillers didn't have any rules or regulations, guiding them through. How, what is absinthe, how much does it have to have of all of these ingredients?

28:09 The real good old days, right? Where you just fuck people's up people up and put 0. This much put holes in their brain. It's Fine. So ultimately, because of these absinthe murders that were happening and people putting the blame on absinthe, they started to regulate the industry. It was legislation changed. How the liquor was made in distilled, but that was not enough for the public. So in by 1912 most of the European countries and the us because, you know, we get into everyone's business, dubbed the green fairy, the green devil, and outlawed it in any and all forms. So absinthe was you could not do any illegal, it was totally legal because as we all know, outlawing something definitely makes people stop. Holy words, doesn't it all make any like oh they outlawed that we hold?

29:00 They were headed. What is it? I've never, I've never, I've never heard that. So, fortunately people bootlegs the liquor and countries like Spain and the Czech Republic, still made absinthe during that time when it Is illegal. So when the drink was marketed to the UK, in the 90s, the 1990s, by a Czech Republic company, many countries started, revisiting the Antiquated, absinthe regulations and bands, and revised them to allow absinthe to, to be something that could be consumed again in these countries, Switzerland actually lifted the ban on absinthe, which is where this murder took place and on the production and sale of it in March 2005.

29:48 Which is pretty recent France. Actually only allows the label absinthe on products that are destined for exports. So even if people are still making absent, it can't be called absinthe or say absinthe on the bottle, which is pretty interesting absent. Produced for local consumption, just carries the label. You know, it's, it's a spirit that has absinthe in it or wormwood right, Bey Spirits. So so the van so dumb. Bottle can still say absinthe, but it has to say a spirit with a base, derived from absolutely. Yeah, because people still have those crazy, you know, ideas behind absent, that it's a huge hallucinogenic that it's going to cause people, to do bad things that it's, you know, it's not something that normal people would drink.

30:37 So, you know, they have those those stupid labels on it, but, after nearly 100 years, absinthe is Alive. And Well, I got this in a local. Oil wine shop and it's from 1875 made in USA, Switzerland Austria made in Austria so it's the traditional historical roulette recipe. Well made. So I mean we live in Colorado and on the ballot speaking of hallucinogenics. Yes I mean it's no different. Like the you said then shrooms no I don't think it is. Yeah I mean shrooms probably has so the okay truly does have more.

31:17 Oh you're Mormon that's like cleans me to like my experience with absent because when I first did like the reason I did it is because I'd heard that it made you lose and I was like, I was probably like 21 or 22 and I'd never done it loose in a gym before him. Cool. Let's see what this is and all that happened was, I got drunk and I was impressed that I had to drink black, licorice flavor, alcohol to get drunk but you know, I didn't see anything cool. And then when I finally at some point tried mushrooms I was like this was what I was looking for and you didn't have to taste black licorice and nowadays, you know, in Colorado. You can just swallow some capsules that have ground up mushrooms in them and it's, you know, easy peasy, you don't have to eat those nasty.

31:57 Yeah, yeah case taste and my, you know what's bizarre I was That punk rock show a couple weekends ago and as I was walking into the venue, this guy had at were in Denver Colorado. This guy had like these little plastic baggies and was selling like, just right out in the open, just right out in the open. Like, right there. As we were, as we were walking into the venue. He's like, hey, does anyone want? But see, here's the proper easy. Yeah, we're getting off topic but this isn't, you know, know so, um, But the problem is when you keep buy stuff, now you don't have to know what's in it. You don't know that's that's the scary part. Like back in the day, back in the 80s, showing my age like you could go buy something. You like knew what you were getting you were buying what you are buying and nowadays, like, it could be that or just something totally different.

32:48 Hmm. Oh yeah, with something or, I mean it's the same. It's the exact same thing as fucking no absent that's that's was part of the problem. Was that you I know what you were getting. People were producing it at such a high rate, such a velocity that you could put anything in there. Yeah. And mix it with some weird shit and people would be losing their minds. That's why Banning it and deregulating. It is actually more dangerous than just allowing a fee, for sure regulated. That's right, you know, that's right produce in a way that you know what's going into a, you know what you're getting and if you don't want to do it, don't do it. Yeah. Right. The real the real question like talking about this right now is When are we going to have the Shrew murders? Right.

33:31 I like like for someone like hallucinates on shrooms. That's my point. Yeah. There's the be no different. And honestly, that was like, wouldn't like the first time I tried it. That was one of my anxieties going into it, like, what if this is a bad trip? What if I start like peeling my skin off? Because I think I'm an orange or something like that. And that's not the case at all. Like you actually have to like Work to keep yourself awake and moving forward in any way. I don't think I could commit a murder. I don't even think I could have a wrestling match but of course, that is something like that is going to happen. Yeah. Right. And then, and then what made me did it? Yeah. Yeah. The the shrimp made me do it forces going to happen? This absence is it dude, it's pretty strong. I've been following the instructions. Slade out by Hemingway.

34:23 Very slowly. Very, very slowly. So that's that's actually the episode. Wow, pastimes fascinating. Yeah and I'm feeling pretty intoxicated. This point feeling having me over feeling tingly posting that on the internet for all to see. I appreciate it. You're having fun to have a little late. Exactly. Actually I had a couple of like show notes and stuff will have will have any any links to the articles that I used in our show notes on our website. It was RAF.com good.

35:05 And I say, yeah, I'm looking through the here and I see you have several links. So and a picture of that artist that we were talking about, getting all fucked up on absinthe. So I just pretty fun. Thank you guys for joining me today and enjoying the green fairy. Thank you for the The fun stuff and I'm too tired to. I took like two sips of this thing. I knew that was gonna happen. That's why I was like, I'm not gonna put anything in there, right? But I'm not, I don't know if I'm making it up, but I do feel a little buzzed, like a fairy got you. I think it's, I think that shit is hard core while lit it on fire. I course it is. I'm talking about cool.

35:46 Well, thanks so much for joining us, Andrew. Yeah, thank you for having me. Yeah, awesome. I think we're going to have another episode next weekend. Just going to join us. Yeah. Below weeks. Yes, for that episode. It's actually and it's a fun one. It's a really fun one. It's on conspiracy theories involving Denver so stoked about that. Yep. So we'll catch y'all in a couple of weeks, it's on the flips, have a great day.