A Cult Mass Marriage - Moonies

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Hello Bizarre story friends.
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today's episode, and as always,

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keep on listening to those facts
as we take you on our newest

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journey, a cult mass marriage,
the Moonies.

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Well, hello.
Hello.

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How are you, my little Boo?
I'm doing well.

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How are?
You.

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I'm I'm good.
What were you going to say?

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I was going to call you true
Kevin.

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That's and I totally forgot.
So wait, let me well, hello,

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true Kevin.
How are you doing?

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I'm doing well.
How are you today?

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I'm doing well, yeah, yeah.
We realized we we might start

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doing this.
I don't know Kiwi and Chichi.

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Yes, yeah, yeah.
So we had realized last night we

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were talking and what were we
talking about?

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Like e-mail?
Addresses.

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E-mail addresses, yeah.
So I was like, yeah, you know my

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e-mail address is cuz Roy was
asking me for.

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It right?
Yeah, exactly.

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And so he's like, that's cute.
I'm like, thanks.

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I said it was a nickname cuz my
sister couldn't say my name.

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So my nickname's Shishi.
So that's what it has to do

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with.
And he said, my God.

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Yeah, I said.
That's funny.

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I couldn't pronounce my name as
a kid and I called myself Kiwi

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and so my family, that's my
nickname, is Kiwi.

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So it's Kiwi and Shishi.
It's like so perfect and it's

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taken us like over five years.
To like figure this to figure it

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out.
That's nice.

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That's totally nuts.
So today we are talking about a

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cult and we we have not ever
done a cult.

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Episode, you know, we mentioned
them and they come up in our

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episodes, but we've not really
dedicated an episode on them.

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No, we haven't.
Yeah.

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They can be really intense.
They're incredibly intense.

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And I was talking to Kevin
before I was like, gosh, I

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actually, I'm like, I'm I was
having a hard time knowing what

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to keep in and what to keep out
because there's so there's so

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much.
Yes, it within a cult.

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You can talk about that.
I'm like, gosh, how do I how do

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I keep this like down too?
Yeah.

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So there's a reason why we
haven't done like.

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Exactly, exactly.
So yeah, I'm, I'm interested to

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go down this road with you.
Yeah, yeah, it's well and like

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trying to cut it, I'll, I'll
definitely try my best to cut as

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much information as I can and
keep it short and sweet.

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But really, we've said this
about a few topics.

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We could have multiple episodes
on this and I think this one

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could probably have like 5
different episodes, honestly.

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Like we could go in depth about
some of the weird shit that

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happens and like, you know, the
leadership, things like that.

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But we're not going to do that.
So this is like a, an overview

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and a kind of fun, a fun, a fun
overview of like the cult, the

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Mooneys, which have you ever
heard of them?

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Did you ever hear about the
Mooneys Cult I.

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Hadn't before we had kind of
talked about it.

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Yeah, fascinated to hear.
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We're going to do bizarre bits.
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discussions get more intense or
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juicy stuff, we like to kind of
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want some extra content.
Yes, yeah, absolutely.

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So when I was like thinking
about, OK, this, you know,

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podcast episode cults, like what
do I think of when I think of a

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cult?
Well, the first thing I think of

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is like Rocky Horror Picture
Show or like the room, but

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that's not a cult that has a
cult following, right, Right.

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We're talking this, this is a
real life cult that is actually

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still recruiting and I had never
heard of it.

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You had never heard of it.
I actually found it on TikTok.

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Really.
Yeah, it was this.

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Were they like blatantly
advertising this cult or what

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were they doing?
So yeah, that's the thing.

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So I was, I saw this girl and it
was like, you know, it was this

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girl who's like, I'm wearing my
mom's wedding dress like it had

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come up on my FYP.
And I was like, oh, oh, that's

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really sweet.
Like she's wearing her mom's

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wedding dress.
And then like, I look and she's

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sitting, they show her in the
wedding dress and it's like a

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bunch of people in the room all
in like white wedding dresses.

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All the women were.
And I'm like, oh, huh.

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This is starting to look a
little culty, a little like I'm

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questioning.
Like.

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And she was like, yeah, she
said, you know, I'm, I've, it

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was my mom's wedding dress for
the same ceremony that I'm going

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to be taking.
And I'm like, Ding, Ding, Ding,

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here's a fucking cult.
And I started scrolling through

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her.
And then I was like, what is the

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Moonies?
And and so they do a thing

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called like a mass sweating.
We'll talk about it, but I could

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not believe how how I'd never
heard of it.

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So have you have you got ever
gotten like close to joining a

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cult or anything like that?
Like is there anything that you

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would?
I'm trying to think the answer

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is absolutely not OK.
No, no, and I'm and I'm so

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hypersensitive about it.
I mean, that's how much I don't

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would not be part of a cult that
I'm so hypersensitive about it

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that I I would I could catch it.
You know what I mean?

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I don't, I really don't feel
like I could be a sucker because

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I'm so in tuned with it and the
signs and like.

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That stuff, the warnings of it.
The warnings of it, yeah.

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OK, well, let's say you're not,
you're not going to be doing a

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cult, OK, But like anything can
be a cult.

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Like let's say, OK, not theatre,
like theatre you can't be a

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cult.
But like I think if there was a

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cult, we we've joined the
theatre one.

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OK, so like a closet obsession
that you have.

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Is there any closet obsessions
that you have like?

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Gotcha.
Or close to.

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I know what you're saying.
No, I don't think so.

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I like like Pickles and
fermented foods.

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Like maybe there's there's a
pickle cult, I could do that.

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So I think that brings up a good
question.

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What what?
What makes a cult?

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What does a cult make?
Yes, it's a great question.

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Yeah.
And I think like there, like

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there are definitions of what
does make a cult.

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And a lot of times it's it's
control, trying to control a

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person's behavior.
Thoughts.

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And a lot of religions would
actually follow into a.

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Cult.
Exactly.

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And that is exactly why I will
not participate in it, because I

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will not be controlled.
Yeah.

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It's, it's it's all about power
and control and like absolute

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power, right.
Typically for monetary gain,

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often times or, or if it's not
monetary gain, it's just the

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power of controlling power, you
know, Exactly.

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OK, so let's say hypothetically,
yeah, God forbid you and Roy had

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never crossed paths.
What are your thoughts on

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arranged marriages?
Preposterous.

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Like a double-blind marriage.
Ridiculous.

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No.
No.

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Would you do it?
No, no.

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Let's say you're OK 150 years
ago, maybe you would have had

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to.
I definitely probably would have

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had to.
Yeah, maybe I wouldn't have a

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choice.
So there is a map this cult the

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Moonies actually does do like
they do a mass like marriage

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ceremony and the people who are
marrying each other, they often

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times don't meet each like they
don't know each other and

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they're assigned and.
Why so why is it, Is it OK?

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Is it like 'cause this is like
about reproduct enforcing

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reproduction?
Like yeah, yes.

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OK, yes, so we're here for some
strangeness and I like one.

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Before I get into like the cult
and everything, I think that

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it's all these cults and
movements.

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Like today it's easy to assume
that it's a whole bunch of

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weirdos wearing like the same
color or whatever with diets

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that are consisting of like bark
or vegan shit and they're

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banging drums and each other.
Exactly.

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Yeah, that's stereotypical.
Yeah.

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So like that can be the case,
right?

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Like there is a stereotype for a
reason.

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There can be nuance behind it.
So with the exception of a

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person who was born into a cult,
these are folks that share more

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similarities to you and with you
and I than they do differences.

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And I think it's super easy and
even fun for us to poke fun at

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the OR poke holes at the bizarre
and ridiculous.

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But but I also think that it can
be dangerous if we lose the

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narrative of humanity when we're
telling these stories true, you

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know, like, these are real
people.

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At the end of the day, they're
real people.

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Who are actually affected and
like have That's right.

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That being said, you're right.
It's still fucking weird.

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Yeah, yeah, we're going to talk
about some weird shit, namely a

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cult with mass marriages along
with other things and that call

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themselves the Moon, the
Unification Church, but we're

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going to be calling them the New
Moonies.

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So for short, the Unification
Church is actually what this

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cult is.
The.

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Unification Church.
So the Moonies are named after

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the founder, which is Sun Myung
Moon or Moon Myung Myung, and he

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was born in 1920 in what is now
North Korea.

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At that time it was all Korea
was all one.

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So it's important to note that
it's important to note these

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items because it does have an
effect on the his own belief

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system that matures and creates
this cult.

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Korea at that time was under
Japanese rule.

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Do you know anything about Korea
and Japan?

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Japan's like history I.
Don't.

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I didn't either, which is why I
think it's like it's important

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to talk about it.
You know, I didn't learn that.

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I maybe learned it in school,
but probably not because we're

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Americans and we exactly because
we're idiots.

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Yeah, totally.
And it's not like super white

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so.
Right, exactly.

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So I'll give you the Cliffs
Notes version.

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So historically Japan did not
want to have interference within

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their country for trade and
stuff.

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But Korea is relatively close,
so they kind of use Korea as

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their middle man.
And like any bully in a movie,

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the bullies treat their own
minions and nerds like shit,

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right?
Giving them like nuggies,

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putting their heads in the
toilet, give for swirlies, the

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whole 9.
So in Korea, that looks like

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using valuable land and putting
railroads, et cetera, all over

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the place to try to move
transportation for, you know,

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trade, et cetera, and forcing
the Korean people to speak

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Japanese and not Koreans.
They're trying to control.

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Yeah, the culture.
So they assassinated the defiant

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queen of Korea.
And this was going on for years.

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And slowly the Korean people
started having uprisings,

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wanting independence from Japan.
And that was going on.

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And what was going on in 1939 in
the world of.

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War.
Yes, World War Two, Yeah.

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So Japan forced millions of of
Koreans, 5 million to either

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fight in World War 2, move to
Japan and work, or if you are

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unlucky, unlucky enough to be a
girl between the ages of 12 and

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17, you were a comfort woman.
So which is an entirely

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different thing.
It's fucked up.

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It's ultimately what a comfort
woman was was like.

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They Wood Forest young girls to
serve Japanese soldiers as

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prostitutes, which is just.
Exactly what I thought.

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It's whatever you think it is,
it's bad.

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It's even worse than that.
And there, that's an entirely

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different, like dark hole that
we could go into.

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But suffice it to say, that's
still an issue within Korea and

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Japan, and it drove a further
wedge in the already frustrated

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and rightfully angry Korean
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So we know the outcome of World
War Two atomic bombs.

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Japanese surrendered, and this
left Korea able to move into the

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direction of true independence
without, you know, Japan trying

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to be their overlords, right?
So there, that's when the

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internal struggles of North and
South Korea, you know, occurred.

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So North Korea was down for
communism.

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South Korea's like, fuck that,
you know, and I know it was a

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little bit of a history lesson,
but you know how nerdy I get

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with this.
And it's important to note that

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at that time in Korea, it was
very unstable and out of

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instability.
A lot of weird shit will happen,

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right?
There's like a there's a vacuum,

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power vacuums and people are
searching for purpose.

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So our boy, son and opportunity.
Opportunity.

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Yes.
Bingo.

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Bingo.
Yeah.

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So our boy, son, young Moon was
in the thick of it.

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And if it formed some of his
extreme beliefs because of it.

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So he was raised in a farming
family of 13/8 of them survived.

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And it's important to note that
he actually was first raised

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under the tenants of Confucian
Confucianism.

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Do you know?
Yes, yes.

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OK, So you know, so essentially
the dude was a Chinese sage and

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he really put importance on the
idea of family bonds, being

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loyal to those related to you,
respect elders, you know, do you

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know that thing like do do not
unto others what you would not

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want done into yourself?
That was him.

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And Christians also like fucking
took it too, but whatever.

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Like it's it was Confucius.
So he was more of a morality

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guru than on a religious icon.
And he valued education, skill,

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judgment, self cultivation
instead of following rules,

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which I can get behind.
But this is where Moon came

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from.
So at 10, his family converted

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to Presbyterian Christianity,
which was my brand of upbringing

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as well.
And yours, too, right?

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Yeah.
So if you were as boring as I am

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and you are, like, we wouldn't
be talking about him.

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No, He had to take shit to an
extreme.

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So around the age of 16, Moon
claims to have been praying on a

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mountainside in North Korea, as
you do, And he saw Jesus.

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And Jesus had asked Moon to,
quote, take up his shoulders,

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the mission that Jesus himself
was not able to fulfill.

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End Quote.
So essentially.

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Take over my job.
Take over what I was unable to

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do.
Yeah, essentially like Jesus

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spills the ultimate tea to Moon
saying that like, you know, he

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failed his mission to bring
God's Kingdom to earth because

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of a little thing called the
crucifixion.

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You know, and.
And Moon's just sitting there

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happily sipping away like, Oh my
God.

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Oh, you're gonna.
Choose me.

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Yeah.
So, Kevin, I know that you're

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thinking, wow, the dude, you
know, this guy got a message

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from Jesus at 16 and his whole
world shifted right?

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If you were on that mountain
side and Jesus came to you, what

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would you do?
You'd be like what the fuck?

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Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you have a mission for me?

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Yeah, like, oh God, that's hard.
I'm trying to step outside of my

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belief system, but yeah, and
stay open minded as we ask

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everyone on the show to do.
I if I was a believer and I

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truly believe that Jesus said
that to me, then yeah, I guess I

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would feel like I had to go.
That would be my purpose.

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Yeah, it would totally change
everything, right?

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If I had Jesus visit me, I would
100% listen and not fuck around.

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I'd be like, OK, are you for
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Can you like, here's some water,
turn it into wine, you know,

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like can you walk on that, on
that water for me?

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Really.
Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly.
So I would listen 100% and I

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would not fuck around with it.
But fuck around, Moon did for

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nine years, not doing anything
with the information that he was

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given air quotes by Jesus.
It took a whopping 9 years to

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get the download that Jesus
didn't finish the first time.

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So at at that time Moon wrote
the Divine Principle which is

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essentially the staple book for
the Moonies.

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It's like their their Bible and
I have a link if you guys would

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like to peruse in the show
notes.

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And been translated clearly.
Well, yeah, so, so he, it was,

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it was eventually translated,
but it all of this was in

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Korean.
So essentially, like Reverend

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Mooney says, no, I wasn't
sitting on God's plan for nine

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years.
Like I, I, he was revealing it

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to me in a very dangerous area,
which was North Korea, right.

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It sounds like really sound
reasoning if Jesus was going to

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come down or God was going to
come down.

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Like, out of all the places to
choose, it seems like like North

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Korea is one of the best ones.
Sure.

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I'm totally kidding.
It's like the worst fucking

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place.
Like.

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Yeah, all right.
Exactly.

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Like, it's right.
Yeah.

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Potential.
Like Messiah, let's put him in

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the Demilitarized Zone.
Like, that's still a fucking

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issue today.
Like North and South Korea are

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still struggling anyway.
Maybe that's where he thought he

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could do the best.
Good.

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I love how you're like, right,
You're, you're, you're really

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like, you're really here with
me.

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And I appreciate that, Kevin.
I just want to just want to note

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that.
So the divine principle is

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viewed as Holy Scripture and the
three points of the main three

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points are the principle of
creation, that all creation is

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in God's image.
But there's also like

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bipolarities.
So you have the inner character,

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which is an invisible form of
reality and the outer form,

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which is all that we can see
like so you have your mind,

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which is invisible and then and
then your body, which is

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visible, right.
And then he also sprinkles in

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yin and Yang, feminine,
masculine into it.

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So he's taking that like,
Chinese upbringing and trying to

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like, mesh it in with
Christianity.

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And there's also a hierarchy of
existence, which is really

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important.
So we'll just like, place it in

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a triangle where the top is the
most important.

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Who do you think is at the top
of the pyramid?

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Jesus or him?
God, Yeah.

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God.
So God's at the top and then

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there's man and woman, and then
the bottom are kids.

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So ultimately God wanted
humanity to to have true

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parents.
That's what Son like would say.

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So he wanted to have them, to
have True Parents and Adam and

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Eve.
And the only way to have True

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Parents is copulation.
Kind of.

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OK yes, but Adam and Eve had
birthed us as sinners, so since

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they ate from that damn apple.
Eve was a bitch.

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Yes, yes.
And Speaking of the whole time

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when I was like writing this,
this is the song that was in my

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head.
Oh my God, are.

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We gonna hear it.
I we're gonna hear it.

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Yeah.
I asked.

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I asked Kevin to have it ready
for us.

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So here, here's the beginning of
it.

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I love it.
Oh my God.

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It's so you have to listen to
the whole song because it's so

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fun.
It's.

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So fun.
So we are all sinners thanks to

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mother fucking eating.
OK yeah, everyone's going to

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have that song stuck in their
head right now.

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Exactly.
So Eve, they birthed us, we're

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sinners because they ate the
apple and son argues that we're

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still sinners because Jesus's
top job, which was to be that

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second Adam character, his
second job was Jesus's job was

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like to get married to Eve, he
had to get married to Eve and he

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didn't.
He didn't have any Eve.

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He never got married right?
Historians will probably

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disagree with Son because he
probably they say that he

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probably did have a wife, but
it's not mentioned in the Bible

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so Jesus fucked that one up.
OK.

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So he didn't get married to Eve,
but he got 'cause he got

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crucified.
So we're all still sinners.

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Every single one of us are still
sinners.

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Wait, sorry, I'm lost and I'm
not a Bible reader so you have

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to help me out here.
Happy Jesus was the Son of Mary.

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Yes, and the Son of God.
And the son.

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Oh wait, I'm confused.
Yeah, a lot of people are

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confused by this point.
So it was like called like an

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Immaculate Conception.
Yes, Mary had an Immaculate

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Conception.
She had.

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She did.
Not have intercourse, right?

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She was a virgin.
She has the Son of God, Jesus.

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Yes.
Jesus was supposed to marry

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Mary.
Jesus was supposed to marry a

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woman.
To then copulate.

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To copulate and, and undo what
Adam and Eve did, which was, you

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know, ultimately we get, we're
going.

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To get, I'm sorry, what Eve did.
What Eve did, Eve fucking ate.

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And so ultimately, it wasn't
actually, you know, it wasn't

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just that Eve ate the fruit of
the, you know, so OK, so going

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back to your point, you were
trying to say Jesus was birthed

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by God and Mary, right?
So he was supposed to be in

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Moon's world.
He was supposed to be the the

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Messiah, but he was unable to
complete his mission.

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'Cause he got because the
crucifixion got in the way.

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'Cause he died and he never had
a child or children and never

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got married, OK.
That was supposed to help

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humanity, OK.
The original sin was not just

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because Eve ate from the fruit,
it was also because she fucked

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Satan.
Right, which I guess is implied

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by her eating the snake fruit of
snake of the snake of the of

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Satan, right?
Because is that implied?

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I mean, you can imply a whole
lot of things in the Bible.

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You.
Can you can imply a lot and a

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lot of these, you know, a lot of
these tales were told as oral

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traditions that were just passed
down initially and then written

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down years after, you know, so,
so a lot of it is up to that's

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the whole point is like it's up
to you.

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Like their morality tales just
don't like, I don't know.

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I think it's, you know,
temptation is not, it's not good

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to always give in to temptation,
right?

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It's right.
Which is really ultimately what

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it.
Is what it that's what it boiled

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down to, right?
And then, then they and then

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Adam and Eve did their biz.
But she was impure.

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She was, she was the one who was
impure because she had sex.

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She literally, like Moon thought
she had sex with Satan.

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So because of that, we, you
know, we are sinners.

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So he's saying, you know, in 19
or excuse me.

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So son, son was supposed to take
on the map mantle and get

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married to Eve, right, And
become humanity's true parents.

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So that's like when I called you
true Kev, Kevin, like that's the

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true parents of humanity.
That's what Son's here for.

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He's the true father, like the
Messiah.

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And then he needs to find an Eve
who is the true mother in order

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to absolve us sinners of all the
sins and like be able to restore

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God's Kingdom.
OK.

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OK, and because Jesus picked
him, then he's pure.

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He's pure.
Well, yeah.

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He must be.
Yes, that's the.

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That's the like, it's super
unfair, right?

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Because Eve had sex with, you
know, Satan and then she had sex

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with, you know, Adam and Adam's
just a fucking bystander, you

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know, like he didn't do
anything.

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It was it was all Eve's fault.
So you know, we clearly cannot

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trust the women.
I've always said no, I'm just

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kidding.
You motherfucker.

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I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.

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So he can't really trust the
women, which is really the

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issue.
So son's supposed to take that

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mantle and get married to that
Eve and and we would have the

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True Parents.
So, 1954 Reverend Moon starts

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evangelizing and spreading the
good word, and it's picking up

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some steam.
OK.

451
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,440
People are like, Oh my gosh,
actually like the whole idea of

452
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,160
like unifying and like having
True Parents, especially at this

453
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,160
time in Korea where there's a
lot of instability, there's war,

454
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,400
there's they're trying to
recalibrate their own culture.

455
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080
And so sorry, one more back up,
one more time, yes.

456
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,080
Please.
True Parents.

457
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:25,160
So it has to be son and whomever
this woman is, they're tech.

458
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,040
They can.
They're the start, the True

459
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,840
Parents.
Yes, so.

460
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,760
So he's essentially Adam 2.0.
Right, exactly.

461
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,480
And so but he can.
He is he gonna make other people

462
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,320
the ability to be True Parents?
No, OK, no, because there's only

463
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,520
one Messiah.
There's only one Jesus got it.

464
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,920
And we would not be talking
about it if anyone could become

465
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,080
it.
Like that's the whole point of a

466
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,480
fucking cult.
There's only one person.

467
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,120
One.
Yeah, yes, OK.

468
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,360
There's there's a a pyramid and
he's at the top because he's

469
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,080
like kind of God Incarnate.
Yeah.

470
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,800
All right.
So he's, you know, in Korea,

471
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,840
it's picking up steam.
And thank goodness that Moon is

472
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,160
already married because people
are like, well, we need our true

473
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,480
Parents.
We need this true.

474
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,640
Like, we need to restore
humanity, right?

475
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,520
And we need to have God's plan
get carried out.

476
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,320
But it wasn't her.
She wasn't the true Eve.

477
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,040
She wasn't the.
YouTube.

478
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,760
No.
No, no, of course not, Right?

479
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,520
No.
No.

480
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:37,960
So he was really into testing
out Eve's SO Eve.

481
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,240
Yeah, well, yeah, you got to
make sure the merch is I.

482
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,280
Have to make sure that.
Yeah, yeah, like, like is it

483
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,080
right?
Can I, you know, live with this

484
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,280
for the rest of my life.
So at that time he actually had

485
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:57,680
a child and, you know, wife, he
was married and he had, he was

486
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,640
trying to get away and escape
too, because as his religion is

487
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,200
picking up steam, people are
paying attention, Communism is

488
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,920
starting to come into North
Korea.

489
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:12,280
He ends up going to South Korea,
leaves his child and his wife

490
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,760
alone.
Well, of course, because he has

491
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,400
a higher calling.
He has a high yes, he definitely

492
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,400
has a higher calling, but he
also and and he's the Messiah,

493
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,240
right?
Like, like what?

494
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,480
They've they're irrelevant
because they're not even pure.

495
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,720
Do as I say, not as I do, right?
Right.

496
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,600
Exactly.
So this poor woman's left in in

497
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:44,360
North Korea and Moon Moon
ditches her hard via pycream,

498
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,080
which Kevin, I sent you the
definition of pycreum through.

499
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,560
Text.
My God, you did.

500
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,840
Can you can you please read it
for the class?

501
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Yes, yes, Miscellany John.
So assuming that the original

502
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,200
sin was in fact illicit sexual
intercourse between Lucifer and

503
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,840
Eve, which we just talked about,
therefore contaminating the

504
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:14,440
entire lineage of humanity, a
woman's sexual union with a pure

505
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,480
Masonic leader and then her
husband could purify her

506
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,720
lineage.
Her whole lineage.

507
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,280
Wow.
Yeah.

508
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:30,680
So all you would have to do is
have sex with the the Messiah,

509
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,720
the Messiah, and then you're
absolved of all sin and and not

510
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,760
only you, every person who was
related.

511
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,920
To this case.
Perfect.

512
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,280
So now we have a way for him to
fuck whoever he wants

513
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:50,800
legitimately, yes, in order to
purify them and allow them to

514
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,880
make these be pure, pure people,
right?

515
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,640
Parents, yeah.
This cult is is culting.

516
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,240
It's sounding like a cult, my
God, because there's sex

517
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,240
involved and there's it always.
I don't know what it is, but

518
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200
especially when it comes to male
driven cult.

519
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,120
Why?
Yeah, because men are pigs.

520
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Men are pigs.
I love when you say that.

521
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,880
They are.
I I don't disagree.

522
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,440
I don't disagree.
So yeah.

523
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,160
So it always devolves into I'm
going to fuck as many people as

524
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,360
I want to as the Messiah and
you're so lucky to be having sex

525
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,360
with me of.
Course.

526
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,000
Yeah, you're privileged.
You're incredibly privileged.

527
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,840
You're going to want to do it.
Even if I'm like this fucking

528
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,800
disgusting motherfucker, Like
who's?

529
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,520
It smells like shit.
And like, yes, they always are.

530
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,720
They always are.
I like we don't need to get.

531
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,120
We have a.
Hot Messiah, please.

532
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,400
I mean like some of the images
of Jesus is pretty hot.

533
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,120
Like I wouldn't mind.
Oh, yeah, totally.

534
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,160
I'm sorry.
I mean, can we have a hot cult

535
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,320
leader?
That's what I meant to say.

536
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,200
Yes, you know what?
David Crush wasn't too bad

537
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320
looking, right?
He was the Waco dude, right?

538
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,720
Yeah, he.
Wasn't bad.

539
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,080
He wasn't bad.
Yeah.

540
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:02,960
Right.
He wasn't.

541
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,320
He wasn't the worst.
Yeah, he looked like maybe he

542
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,640
didn't shower.
Yeah.

543
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Which is really, yeah, an issue.
He looked like a cult leader.

544
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,640
He did.
Yeah, he definitely did.

545
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,560
So Moon has a harem of
disciples, ultimately calls them

546
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,600
the disciples that help to
restore humanity, right?

547
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,200
Because he's fucking all of
them.

548
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,480
And through these disciples, he
ends up finding his the true

549
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,840
mother, which is his wife.
Let me tell you, he went through

550
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,880
like five women who he married
like four or five women.

551
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Well.
He actually married them.

552
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,360
He.
He married them.

553
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Yeah.
Yeah, he had divorced his wife.

554
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,760
Uh huh.
So is this Was he?

555
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,080
Was he married to all five of
them?

556
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880
At the same time, no, he
married, divorced.

557
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Married, divorced.
It's like, OK, he had to.

558
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,280
It took him a little while to
find the true mother.

559
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,560
And this girl, excuse me, not
girl, No.

560
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,800
Yes, child.
This child was basically, you

561
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,160
know, raised to be the true
mother or to be not even the

562
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,160
true mother to be with son.
So like they groomed her from

563
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,360
the beginning.
She was like.

564
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Basically.
She was 17 or something when she

565
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,960
got into the when.
She would they have known about

566
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920
his.
Other wives.

567
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,960
No.
Would they have known about him

568
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,120
while they were?
I mean, were they raising her to

569
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:33,480
be him, his wife, or just like a
Messiah's wife in general?

570
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,720
I think, well, there's only one
Messiah.

571
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,840
Right.
But like, did they know of him

572
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,480
17 years ago?
She was, oh, oh, was she like

573
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,840
born specifically?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

574
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,800
I don't think that's necessarily
the case, but her, her family

575
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,040
were, they were involved in the
cult when she was small.

576
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,640
So, like, I'm sure all of these
children were being groomed to,

577
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,840
you know?
Yes, be his.

578
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,520
Concubine, disciple, harem,
whatever to to please him and to

579
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,840
make him happy, because he is
the way that we're.

580
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Going What an honor to be the
wife of the Messiah, right?

581
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,960
Yeah, and what a mindfuck.
Like this woman truly believes

582
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,719
in it, right?
Like she truly believes and

583
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:18,120
drank the the drank the fucking
Kool-aid because she she didn't

584
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,760
have the opportunity to, you
know, really developed her

585
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480
prefrontal frontal cortex before
she met this man.

586
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,320
She was groomed into this
situation and like probably

587
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,639
having sex with him, I'm
assuming because this dude was

588
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,760
just having sex with everyone
and there was like there were

589
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:42,360
whole sex, you know, rights and
and ceremonies around restoring

590
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,639
humanity.
It's part of a ceremony.

591
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,199
It's legitimate.
Doesn't matter what you're

592
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:47,040
doing.
Yes.

593
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,760
It's.
Holy, it's necessary.

594
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,400
It's necessary.
Yeah.

595
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,440
So, you know, he like, and one
of the things that like, once

596
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,040
again, we're talking about these
cults and like we are sitting

597
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,320
here saying, what the fuck?
This is crazy.

598
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,360
It starts out small.
It's a small little thing that

599
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,120
ends up, you know, it, it slowly
starts to add up.

600
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:13,840
Like his original thing that he,
that Moon was saying was the

601
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,080
true purpose of God's creation
is to experience the joy of

602
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,280
love, which that sounds
beautiful, right?

603
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,800
Like, sure.
Like, you know, love, Love Is

604
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:29,080
All you need, you know, So, so
I, I do think that it, it's

605
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,240
beautiful.
It doesn't sound so bad.

606
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:34,560
And that's why these people
start following him and get into

607
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,520
this, this cult.
So dude was a great speaker.

608
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,280
OK.
That's the key to they all are.

609
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,960
And they can talk you into, you
know, the, the oceanfront

610
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440
property in, in the desert kind
of stuff, right?

611
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,600
Yes, yes.
That's what makes them so good.

612
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,520
Yeah, and he was really into
moolah, into money, monetary

613
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,920
donations and stuff like that.
So as he's, he's picking up

614
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,960
steam, a lot of people are
wanting to find answers.

615
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,640
There's, you know, they're going
through war time and shit like

616
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,520
that.
And like, you know, this guy

617
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,280
saying about communism because
he's now in South Korea, he's

618
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,320
like, communism is wrong.
We need to get back to like the

619
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,360
earth and like back to what God
wants us to be.

620
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,680
We need to really like, you
know, believe in a family system

621
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,320
and like, love people.
And when you're surrounded by

622
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,480
war, Oh my God, family.
Doesn't that sound amazing?

623
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,040
Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's
quite literally heaven on earth

624
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,120
when you have experienced
absolute, no doubt, hell, no

625
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,000
doubt.
So you can see why he was

626
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,880
picking up steam, why people
wanted to follow him.

627
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,040
He had these answers that were
good.

628
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,560
And here's another thing.
People wanna be told what to do.

629
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,720
Yeah, they want to be told, OK,
life is hard.

630
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,880
Yes, I have the answers.
Of course.

631
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,240
This is what's going to make you
happy.

632
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,320
Yep, It's a lot easier than
having to try to figure it out

633
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120
for yourself or having to come
to the conclusion of like, I

634
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,200
don't know, maybe fucked up shit
happens in the world and like

635
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,000
there is no, there is no divine
plan for it.

636
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,240
It's just fucked up.
And, you know, seeing children

637
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,920
being, you know, basically raped
like that is by Japanese

638
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,960
soldiers and stuff.
Like there's a, there's, there's

639
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,720
a purpose behind this.
O, you know, he goes through

640
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,240
five women, gets the true
mother.

641
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,160
They start amassing like they
have businesses and money and

642
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,160
they start investing in
different properties and

643
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,760
ublications, newspapers, they're
anti communist.

644
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,000
So they're also working within
the government of Korea and

645
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,600
world governments because they,
they're making a lot of money.

646
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,400
So working within these world
governments.

647
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,000
And I think it's Bob Dole was
even like spoke on behalf of

648
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,520
them were like, oh, the
Unification Church is great.

649
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,680
You know, all these things.
So you have like politicians who

650
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,440
are being paid by the
Unification Church, by the

651
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,480
Moonies and are in the pockets
of of these folks.

652
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,000
So once again, it adds
legitimacy to this cult.

653
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,280
These politicians, you know, of
these businesses like the

654
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Washington Post, I believe they
had like a stake within the

655
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,480
Washington Post, which is a
publication.

656
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,080
Like they had money in their
hands in everything.

657
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,040
And and it was a small South
Korean, you know, church that

658
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,760
ended up starting to get bigger.
Another thing with the cult,

659
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,520
Moon said.
OK, forget English.

660
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,640
English is not the true
language, it's Korean.

661
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:40,480
Right.
Sure.

662
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,720
All right.
So you if you want to.

663
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,520
Well, Jesus.
Picked him, so it must be.

664
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,320
Jesus picked Jesus and God
picked him in North Korea.

665
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,560
Yeah.
And one like Jesus came was

666
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
like, sorry, bro, you have to
take this mantle, you know,

667
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,400
like, you have to do this.
But yeah, he's like, yeah, no,

668
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,680
everyone has to learn Korean and
like, you have to say our

669
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,560
prayers in Korean.
But this is that mind control.

670
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,640
This is where that control
aspect is coming into it.

671
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,160
So like, even the way you speak
is being controlled by Moon.

672
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,720
You have to learn Korean.
You have to, you know, perform

673
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:18,440
these sexual ceremonies.
You have like he's in control of

674
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,840
everything and telling people
how to live life, which, you

675
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,520
know, people like.
So around in the night.

676
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Well, actually let's go into the
the thing that people love

677
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,880
talking about the most, which is
one of the ceremonies, the

678
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,320
blessing ceremony, which is the
marriage ceremony.

679
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,240
OK, so the traditional steps for
completing the sanctity of the

680
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:47,400
blessing ceremony is first the
chastening.

681
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,560
So this is one, once again, we
have two people, typically these

682
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,640
mass marriages, these two people
get together, they don't know

683
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,080
each other, right?
It's it's like an arranged

684
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,240
marriage with a bunch of other
people.

685
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:05,760
The first step that they have to
do is the chastening ceremony,

686
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,400
which is where the couple strike
each other three times

687
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,880
symbolically to prepare for a
new beginning.

688
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,520
So like beating the shit out of
each other before at the very

689
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,960
beginning?
OK.

690
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,880
So once again, we're getting
into that conditioning.

691
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,600
You're conditioning people to
beat each other and this is the

692
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,240
first act that you're doing
together as as a couple, as in a

693
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:33,400
unification setting.
The holy wine ceremony is Step

694
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,640
2.
And this the couple share a cup

695
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:42,960
of holy wine or grape juice,
symbolizing their grafting into

696
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,160
God's sinless lineage.
So, you know, it's, hey, we just

697
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,040
beat you.
You have a glass of wine

698
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,000
afterwards, take the edge off a
little bit.

699
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,000
Then you have the holy blessing
ceremony, which is where the

700
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,480
couple exchange vows and a
prayer is is sad and then

701
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,960
they're sprinkled with holy
water.

702
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:04,640
So once again, we're pulling
little aspects of Christianity

703
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,840
from into the ceremony.
Then you have the separation

704
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,520
period.
So once again, it's all about

705
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,200
control.
The couple refrains from having

706
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,040
sexual relations for a period,
which is most often 40 days, but

707
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,480
in some cases much longer.
And I'm sure that some of that

708
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,120
has to do with, you know, maybe
Moon would be like, oh, this is

709
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,800
a hottie.
Like, I'm gonna take her, you

710
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,640
know, for a little bit longer,
you know.

711
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,000
So before they can consummate
and re consummate their

712
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,360
marriage, they have to, you
know, abstain, abstain.

713
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,000
So you're like, cool, I'm
married to this person.

714
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,120
I have to be around them all the
time.

715
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,720
I can't fuck them.
It's control.

716
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,240
It is.
It's total control and then

717
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,320
there's a three day ceremony so
the couple begins or re begins

718
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,120
their married married life.
So some people will choose to

719
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,120
get remarried in a in a setting
like this.

720
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,920
So people join the.
Cult.

721
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,840
Would do this so in a very high,
highly symbolic ceremony over

722
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,560
three days, which is considered
to be the reverse, a reverse of

723
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,080
the fall of Adam and Eve, which
was that original sin that we

724
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,280
were talking about before, have
a different like ceremonies that

725
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,920
go within that.
So the blessings, they say there

726
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,960
are these four vows to become a
true man or woman who practices

727
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,840
sexual purity and lives for the
sake of others #2 to become a

728
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,040
true husband or wife who
respects true parents, which is

729
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Moon and his wife, their
example, and establishes an

730
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200
eternal family which brings joy
to God.

731
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,560
Three, to become a parent who
educates his or her children to

732
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,440
follow the tradition of true
love for the sake of the family

733
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,240
and the world.
And then the final vow is to

734
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,480
create an ideal family which
contributes to World Peace.

735
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:01,480
Oh my God, Oh my God.
So what ultimately happens is if

736
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,960
they have a child that doesn't
want to be part of the OR

737
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,080
religion or the organization,
then Can you imagine they've

738
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:19,240
just broken #3 like, it's so
clever to keep everybody in

739
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:23,480
control and in this cult, cult
fucking, it's a cult.

740
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,200
It's a cult, yeah.
That's FT.

741
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,840
It's super fucked and this is
the beginning.

742
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,040
This is the very beginning of
your marriage or your

743
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,200
relationship or starting a new
family.

744
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,480
Well, a part of the ultimate
family, which is what they would

745
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,160
call themselves.
You're taking on these, these

746
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,400
four tenants or these four vows
with your partner that you have

747
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,240
also not had sex with yet,
right?

748
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:54,760
So like these people are like
really like having some issues

749
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,760
and they're like, OK, we already
got married.

750
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,600
We're going to do like this
crazy ass ceremony, which they

751
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,440
do and then they can have they
can finally have sex, But before

752
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,920
that they're taking on these
vows.

753
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,680
So their heads are probably
already swimming and not you're

754
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,480
not thinking in your like,
you're not thinking with any

755
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,520
kind of logic, right?
Like you're the logical part of

756
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,280
your brain is bye, bye.
It's not there.

757
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,960
So, so that that is, you know,
that's what they're dealing

758
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,200
with.
And that's just at the beginning

759
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,880
of a of, of a marriage, right?
Right.

760
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:33,480
So in let's see and you'll, you
can see if you go online, there

761
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,600
is a lot of footage and when you
type in the Moonies, this is

762
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,680
typically what you see, which is
the footage of.

763
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,640
In 1997, Reverend and Missus
Moon presided over a blessing

764
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:51,440
ceremony in Washington, DC.
That's when 28,000 of the 30,000

765
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,360
couples taking part were
previously married.

766
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,000
So, so all of these people,
including including Baptist

767
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,920
minister and civil rights
advocate Alan Sharpton and his

768
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,920
wife Catherine, they were there
to help and like take part in

769
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,920
this blessed like marriage
ceremony where, you know, Moon

770
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,920
is like marrying them.
It has something to do with

771
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,480
money.
It's all money.

772
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:20,480
It's all money.
So there was one in 2000 that

773
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,320
also included couples in North
Korea, which you will see.

774
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,600
You can see not in North Korea,
but like you'll see a lot of

775
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,520
Koreans who are taking part in
this because it's there.

776
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:39,480
So people will also get
remarried, right?

777
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,640
So you might have an older
couple there.

778
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,120
So if you guys are watching it,
it's not all 19 year olds like

779
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,560
it'll be people who join the
family, the ultimate family,

780
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,360
right?
So I guess, you know, people are

781
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,440
saying that that the marital
aspect, like historically within

782
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,440
the Unification Church actually
does work.

783
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,360
Like people do stay together.
Why do they stay together?

784
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,400
They have no choice.
You have no choice.

785
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,840
You're being controlled.
You're not using logical skills

786
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,160
to think about these things.
If you leave, you are not going

787
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,240
to be connected to the rest of
the everyone you know exactly.

788
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:20,520
You lose everything, which is a
problem.

789
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,160
That's how all cults operate.
That's how they keep their

790
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,600
people in.
That's how they do it.

791
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,400
It it it's, Yeah, every single
one of them.

792
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,800
None of them.
They all are in this.

793
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,600
They're rooted in the same.
Yeah, they are in the exact same

794
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,320
shit.
So, and like right now, like

795
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,880
those these marriage ceremony
blessing ceremonies and stuff

796
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,440
like that's like their bread and
butter.

797
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,200
So a lot of people are like, oh,
I really like, I like being part

798
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,280
of this.
And they still have, like a lot

799
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,000
of people in South Korea who are
becoming members.

800
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,600
It's not as popular as it used
to be, but people are still

801
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,720
getting married.
Well, there's a huge problem in

802
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:58,600
South Korea of women who are
willing to get married to men

803
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,400
right now.
Have you heard of that the HBHB

804
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,480
something movement?
So.

805
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,920
It's a movement in South Korea
where women are just like, we're

806
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,160
either going to marry each other
or we're just choosing not to

807
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,440
get married because there's a
lot of issues within a Korean

808
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,160
Society of like, there's a lot
of sexism, there's a lot of

809
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,960
abuse.
There's a lot of, you know, a

810
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,280
lot of women not being able to,
you know, be independent, which

811
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,920
is a huge problem.
And So what are they?

812
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,320
Doing they're choosing to not
get married or or becoming gay

813
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,760
or marrying each each other like
for, you know, domestic

814
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,240
purposes.
Like women marrying women, you

815
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,760
mean?
Women marrying women, women just

816
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,880
having partnerships with women
like, you know, to whether it's

817
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,080
like a sexual or not non sexual.
Oh right.

818
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,680
And choosing to just straight up
not marry men.

819
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,760
They're like, we are over this.
We're not going to deal with

820
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,720
this.
We're not going to deal with

821
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:51,320
like abuse and.
Yeah.

822
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,560
And I don't want to stereotype,
but I've seen a lot of that

823
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:02,960
Asian stereotype male culture of
the women being less than, yes.

824
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,800
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's a huge
deal.

825
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,200
So the Unification Church is
also dealing with that and the

826
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,320
what they're, what they're doing
instead.

827
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,160
So is bringing in immigrants
saying, Hey, you want to, you

828
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,000
want to, you know, come here and
become a citizen in South Korea,

829
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:28,080
which is relatively, you know,
Westernized, you know, come from

830
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,480
the Phil, come the Philippines,
like Thailand, you're not living

831
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,520
the best life.
So come on over because and and

832
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,120
they're they're contracting them
through marriage agencies too,

833
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,880
because there's such a lack of
women who are willing to marry

834
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
men in in South Korea, but they
still need to bring in the

835
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,640
numbers.
So the Unification Church has

836
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,920
the moolah to do it and they are
bringing them in from other

837
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,240
countries.
Good God.

838
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,840
So, you know, we were talking
about it like in 1997 there was

839
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,680
like 22,000 people who are
getting married.

840
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,120
In 2009 there were, there was a
ceremony for 7000 couples.

841
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,640
So once again, it's trying to go
down, we're starting to go down

842
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:10,600
in this marriage ceremonies.
And because one thing that the

843
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Unification Church does is by
political, you know,

844
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,480
politicians.
Sharpton, I like I said, he

845
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,480
wasn't there because out of the
goodness of his heart, Yes.

846
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,920
No.
You're not there because you're

847
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,280
like, I just really want to
check this out.

848
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,960
It's like he was probably paid
for it, right?

849
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,680
Yeah.
So there was in some form or

850
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,720
fashion.
Yes.

851
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:34,760
And at this at this 2009
blessing ceremony, there was a

852
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,520
vice speaker of the National
Assembly of the Republic of

853
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:43,560
Korea and the daughter of the
late President of Korea, Park

854
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,680
Chung Hee.
So once again, they're just

855
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,400
being paid, but they're saying
things like little, like, you

856
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,160
know, snippets like I join in
trans religious spirit.

857
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,640
I like the Unification Church's
way of interpreting the Bible,

858
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,920
incorporating the Quran and
Buddha and Buddha script.

859
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,720
So he, you know, he's pulling
from a lot of religions to form

860
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:06,720
his own.
You can see like the tenants of

861
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:12,920
his upbringing coming in, in
the, in the major items, but

862
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,120
he's like picking and choosing
what he wants, you know?

863
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,080
Well, he can.
He's the Messiah.

864
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,800
Yes, yeah, he's the Messiah.
He can kind of do whatever the

865
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,080
fuck he wants.
But you know, with that, a lot

866
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,640
of people are having have issues
with the Unification Church

867
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,920
because they're doing these
arranged marriages and like,

868
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,120
well, this isn't right.
This is like kind of a

869
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,480
throwback.
So oftentimes like, well, the

870
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,480
Catholics are like, you know,
this is not OK.

871
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,680
There's a lot of issues with
these marriage ceremonies that

872
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,400
different religious practices
have.

873
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,000
I just as a person, have an
issue with.

874
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,160
Them.
Yeah, exactly.

875
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,800
Just as a free human being.
Yeah, yeah, just because I think

876
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,880
it's fucked up.
So we were talking about like,

877
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,640
you know, how Moon's like
amassing money and, you know,

878
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,840
creating businesses and he, it
ends up sending missionaries

879
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,160
because that's what you do if
you have you send missionaries

880
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,600
to different countries and
stuff.

881
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,560
And he they're typically
underground, which is why like

882
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,200
in North Korea, they had like an
underground movement and there

883
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,280
are a bunch of people who got
married in North Korea are still

884
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,760
part it.
It's all underground kind of

885
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,960
makes it a little sexier, right?
Like if you're like, oh, part of

886
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,000
this like underground, like
secret society kind of thing.

887
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,960
It's kind of hot.
And Moon ends up going to jail

888
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,840
for tax evasion.
You don't say.

889
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,160
You don't say.
Yeah.

890
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,160
So he did not pay his taxes,
ends up going to jail for a few

891
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,800
years.
What does that do to a religious

892
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,600
leader?
Well, didn't that?

893
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,680
Well, nothing, right?
Kind of makes him a martyr.

894
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, right.

895
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,680
Yeah, look what the man's doing
to.

896
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,480
You yeah, they just don't want
to they don't want to be a part

897
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,080
of the true family.
They can't see your your true

898
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,480
vision like like this is this is
the sins of the world.

899
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,680
This is the sins of I've already
absolved all of you from it.

900
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,600
But that's why I'm being, you
know, persecuted.

901
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,280
I'm being persecuted by instead
of like I'm I, I.

902
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,880
Just broke the fucking law I.
Broke the law.

903
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,680
I'm not paying taxes and it's a
lot.

904
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:19,520
It's a lot of money.
Like if they're putting you in

905
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,800
in jail for years, it's a lot of
money that they exactly because

906
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600
this guy also has been paying
off like.

907
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,440
Yeah, all the people in his
pocket.

908
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,640
Yes, so so.
You know, it's hardcore.

909
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,560
It's hardcore like, like they
can't hide it anymore, right?

910
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,960
They have to kind of do
something.

911
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,280
So that's what they end up
doing.

912
00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:40,560
And Moon actually moves to the
United States in 1971 even it.

913
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,920
I'm surprised he has to.
Maybe they have different rules.

914
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,160
I'm surprised he has to pay
taxes cause Scientology, you

915
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,800
know they.
As a religious.

916
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,960
Yeah, exactly.
Well, so, but he was in Korea.

917
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,960
Exactly.
He was not, he was not in.

918
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,080
Yeah, he was a Korean citizen.
So he was not paying taxes in

919
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,160
Korea.
So he went to jail in Korea for

920
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,600
and among other things, right.
Like he was also sending fucking

921
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,720
missionaries to different
places.

922
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:05,240
And they're like, we don't want
your missionaries.

923
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:08,440
And they're like, he's like, no,
no, no, you do like, by the way,

924
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,280
give us money, right?
Like, so he's just a fucking

925
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,760
charlatan.
So he ends up he remains a, a

926
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,560
citizen of, of North or of sorry
of the Republic of Korea.

927
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,160
And he gives, he actually gave
in the 70s a series of speeches,

928
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,520
public speeches in the US One of
them was in Madison Square

929
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,240
Garden in New York City.
And then he also took over the

930
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Yankee Stadium in New York City,
Washington Monument in

931
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,760
Washington, DC.
You have all these iconic places

932
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,520
that this man's going to and
it's like, oh, well, it must be

933
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,480
something, right?
And he, he said that he was

934
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,960
speaking God's hope to America
for, you know, 300,000 people.

935
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,280
This is a lot of fucking people
who are, who are there to see

936
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,800
him, right?
One of his largest gatherings in

937
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,240
history was or largest peaceful.
One of the largest peaceful

938
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:07,360
gatherings in history of Korea
was one of his 1.2 million in

939
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,480
South Korea.
So he was fucking popular.

940
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,680
But with great popularity comes
people starting to say well who

941
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:23,320
the fuck is this guy?
So there's a huge anti cult

942
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,880
movement in the 1970s.
It starts to happen and people

943
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,720
are like, well, what the fuck?
Like, who is this guy?

944
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,720
Like, what is he doing?
He, he's brainwashing these

945
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:39,800
members.
And actually there is a guy who,

946
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,880
OK, so we're talking about Bob
Dole in 1976.

947
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,920
Like they're trying to create,
like get more politicians on

948
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,440
their side.
One of the Unification Church

949
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:54,080
presidents goes to meet with
Bob, Bob Dole to defend, you

950
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,040
know, the Unification Church's
rights.

951
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,040
And, and because a lot of people
are coming out saying, I have a

952
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,880
family member who joined this
cult, I haven't seen them.

953
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,720
I don't this is, this is
dangerous.

954
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,160
We need to do something about
it.

955
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,080
So they're going to say, oh, no,
it's fine.

956
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,280
Like these loved ones, they just
don't understand.

957
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,360
And you know, whatever.
And fucking Bob Dole's listening

958
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,800
to him.
So I told you, you know, we're,

959
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,760
we have all these people who are
becoming brainwashed and like

960
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,320
the idea of brainwashed is
happening.

961
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:32,040
There's one man who was a Mooney
in the 1970s ends up getting

962
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,960
deprogrammed.
His sister, like, basically

963
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,200
kidnaps her or kidnaps him.
And it's like, you're

964
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,760
brainwashed.
And he's like, no, I'm not.

965
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,680
Oh, yeah, maybe I'm not
sleeping.

966
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,760
I'm not Like, there's a lot of
things that are being

967
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,880
controlled, like the what I'm
eating, what I'm, what I'm

968
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,360
doing, when I'm doing it, where
I'm working, you know, everyone

969
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,160
I'm interacting with.
So he ends up getting on

970
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,840
brainwashed.
And today he's one of the

971
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,480
leading deprogrammers in the
United States.

972
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,040
So he deprograms people from you
know, people will say that, you

973
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,520
know, LDS like the like being
Mormon is a cult.

974
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,200
So he's like deprogrammed people
there.

975
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,480
He's any like there are a ton of
cults that are going on

976
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,680
currently like that six M cults
and stuff like.

977
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,400
And then you'll have, but then
you'll have the people saying,

978
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,320
well, he's just programming them
differently like the that's

979
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,920
their argument, right?
Yeah, well, true, True.

980
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,280
Right.
Oh, he like the Unification

981
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,680
Church, like the Moonies would
say that.

982
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,520
Yeah.
Oh, well, he just wants to.

983
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,920
Yeah.
Tarnish your brain.

984
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Yes, exactly.
He's just programming you.

985
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,480
He's just programming you.
He's just, he's just trying.

986
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,000
He he's trying to take you away
from your true purpose, like

987
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,480
when you're using in in this,
that's what I think makes moon

988
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:47,440
so great is he's so good at
using words like like really

989
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,600
strong words.
So like true Parents.

990
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:54,360
What is truth?
What is, you know, truth, love,

991
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,400
like these things are, you know,
are supposed to be they're

992
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,280
they're not up for discussion.
Truth is not up for discussion.

993
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,920
It's either true or it's false.
There is nothing.

994
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,840
So a true parent you don't have,
you know, like there's there's

995
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,600
something very powerful and just
the way of thinking.

996
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,480
So it's like deprogramming these
people.

997
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,880
He's already done all the work
to say like the world doesn't

998
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,720
love you, like I love you.
I'm your answer, I'm your

999
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,880
salvation.
If you just do these things,

1000
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,960
then these and these people are,
I don't know, sometimes somewhat

1001
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,080
happy, but but this guy ends up
finding out how to deprogram.

1002
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,840
And so he's like a huge
deprogrammer, still doing it

1003
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,520
today.
And he has books on it.

1004
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,720
He actually helped create like,
you know, the ways to figure out

1005
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,160
whether or not you're in a cult.
And like, there's like a series

1006
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,320
of questions, you know, around
control and like, you know, lack

1007
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,640
of sleep and things like that,
that, you know, help people

1008
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,760
identify whether or not this
could potentially be cult.

1009
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,920
Yeah.
So we were talking about, you

1010
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,480
know, tax evasion dudes, you
know, evading taxes left, right

1011
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,680
and center.
He also ends up being very

1012
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,480
highly involved within the
seafood industry.

1013
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,880
And he ends up bringing they,
they invested in in the 70s,

1014
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,080
millions of dollars into the
United States to try to bring

1015
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:23,200
more seafood over.
And he starts working this in to

1016
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:28,360
some of his, his sermons, right?
So one of them, one of his

1017
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,240
speeches was called like the way
of the of tuna, the way of tuna.

1018
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,360
So he was claiming this is him
like trying to make the the case

1019
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,200
for like, give us, give me more
money.

1020
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,680
After we build the boats, we
catch the fish and process them

1021
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,760
for the market and then have a
distribution network.

1022
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,280
It's not just on the drawing
board.

1023
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,120
I've already done it.
And he started calling himself

1024
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,360
the king of the ocean because, I
mean, he's already the Messiah,

1025
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,800
might as well also be the king
of the ocean, right?

1026
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:59,000
So he, he is getting people and
American investors to, you know,

1027
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,440
give into this dude was actually
really great at business.

1028
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,120
I mean, when he was like paying
his taxes and stuff like that,

1029
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,720
Like he knew what he was doing
and he made a shit load of

1030
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,160
money, which is insane.
So and he, you know, like I

1031
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,000
said, he helps found and his
members help found like this

1032
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:22,440
News World Communications, which
you know, their first two papers

1033
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,120
was the News World, which was
later renamed the New York City

1034
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,800
Tribune.
And he also did Spanish language

1035
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:34,720
publications.
So they're also in these

1036
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,960
newspaper just trying to recruit
members.

1037
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,520
That's always like the number
one goal.

1038
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,720
But ultimately he ends up dying
because he's although he's the

1039
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,560
Messiah.
Dude has had a long fucking life

1040
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,560
of a.
Debauchery.

1041
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,480
Yes.
So on August 15th in 2012, he

1042
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,240
was reported to be gravely ill
and he was put on a respirator

1043
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,040
at an intensive care unit in in
Korea.

1044
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,200
So he's back in Seoul.
He was admitted on the 14th of

1045
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,000
August and he was suffering from
an pneumonia earlier that month.

1046
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,200
So this dude was just, his body
was just breaking down.

1047
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,160
So he ends up, he ends up dying,
right?

1048
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,080
And then there's kind of a power
vacuum within the church.

1049
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,080
Yeah.
So who takes over?

1050
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,200
How many kids does he have?
Oh my God, he has so many kids.

1051
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,640
So that was one thing.
Like they didn't know how many

1052
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,520
children he had one of them.
Like there's a woman who had

1053
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,920
come out and was like, I was
pregnant with his child because

1054
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,400
I did like these.
Of course dude's not going to

1055
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,040
use a condom, right?
No, that's like, he's the son of

1056
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,160
God.
Don't you think he would?

1057
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,200
He would have like been able to
control whether or not a woman

1058
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,360
had gotten pregnant.
Well, sure, but he didn't.

1059
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,720
Want to he didn't he didn't want
to so she ends up having a baby

1060
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,520
when she was like, you know, 16.
I this was just like a story

1061
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,520
that I'd read and he she ended
up getting shipped off during

1062
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:09,160
the time that she was pregnant.
They the there was a woman like

1063
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,320
one of the presents when the
high people in the church ended

1064
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,400
up his wife started wearing like
a like padding around her

1065
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,200
stomach to make her look
pregnant and they took on her

1066
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:24,920
child as their as their own kid.
So nobody knew that that was and

1067
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,680
and he was not marked as a true,
you know, one of the true

1068
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,560
children.
So he probably had, I mean,

1069
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,560
hundreds of children, but the
true children, I think it was

1070
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,920
only like 14 that he had said
were his true children.

1071
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,480
So did his wife try to take
control?

1072
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,160
His wife ends up taking control,
and so now they're still like

1073
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:52,120
very much revering like him.
He's still like the true father,

1074
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:57,400
but now the true mother is the
one who's like kind of taking

1075
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,960
over the mantle.
So it'll be interesting to see

1076
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,440
what happens when she dies.
Like Mother Earth.

1077
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:11,320
Yeah, yeah.
So this was, it's like 5, this

1078
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:16,200
is like 10 years ago.
Yep, yeah, like 12 years ago at

1079
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:23,160
this point that he had died.
So they, so he has children who

1080
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,440
are kind of taking up some of
them are, are still within the

1081
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,240
church.
Others have drug problems and

1082
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,600
like are fucked up because come
on, like that's a fucked up

1083
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,640
thing to, to experience as a
kid.

1084
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,160
So even though they might be the
true children, they're still

1085
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,000
like dealing with the
ramifications of growing up in a

1086
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,120
cult and like having that
control.

1087
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:54,240
So one of his younger sons
actually founded, he founded the

1088
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,600
Iron Rod Ministries, which is
also known as the World Peace

1089
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,840
and Unification Sanctuary
Church.

1090
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,840
And it's been incredibly
controversial.

1091
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,960
Controversial because they get
involved in politics and they

1092
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,080
have there's a lot of advocacy
for for private ownership of

1093
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,920
firearms.
And they also supported January

1094
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,600
6th capital attack, like the
capital United States capital

1095
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,760
attack.
So you know, I know it's like

1096
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,040
really fucking surprising Iron
Rod Ministries, you know, part

1097
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,360
of the Unification Church.
But I mean, like I said, like we

1098
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,040
could go into this for it's
still going on.

1099
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,440
We can like if you guys go on to
TikTok, there are members who

1100
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:40,800
are actively posting on there
and they will share like the

1101
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,160
they have a a museum.
So you can like see the Museum

1102
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,800
of the Unification Church that
like has like this whole room.

1103
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,320
It's like the true family.
And like, it's kind of like a

1104
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,960
mini, like, yeah, it's a little
mini museum like that has it

1105
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,000
looks beautiful, but it's a
means for them to recruit new

1106
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,400
members so you can find them.
And, and the the great thing is

1107
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,840
like when you're looking at the
Moonies, there's not a ton of

1108
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:13,840
biased media against it.
So you can still see what the

1109
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,360
what the church members, how
they're trying to recruit people

1110
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,880
actively today.
Because let's be honest, like

1111
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,880
the the cult, I don't know what
it is about cult websites.

1112
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,280
Don't get me started.
That's my you know, you know,

1113
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,640
that's my pet peeve.
And they do.

1114
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:39,360
And the cult ones and like the
like the UFO one, like they're

1115
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,120
all like what is wrong with you
people?

1116
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,240
It's like Geo sites from like
the 1990s.

1117
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,840
Exactly why?
Why?

1118
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,840
I know we've talked about this.
It's.

1119
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,640
Almost creepy.
It is super it's super creepy

1120
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:56,160
and like really dated yes and
and so they have websites that

1121
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,000
you can go to not very they're
not very great so like.

1122
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:06,920
And hello, this is 2024.
Fucking get a modern website.

1123
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,440
You want people that this is
what people are on 24/7.

1124
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,480
Get a good website.
Yeah, yeah.

1125
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,560
Build an app.
Build an apps Yeah, yeah, make

1126
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,320
them download your app.
Like, yeah, it's funny.

1127
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,360
You know, we've talked about
this.

1128
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,040
I was having this conversation
with a friend, too, and it's

1129
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,440
like, it's always the worst.
Like the guy who's like the

1130
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,160
jackhammers, like under
construction.

1131
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,040
Yeah.
It's like so bad.

1132
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,680
Coming soon.
Coming soon, Yeah.

1133
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,320
Yeah.
It's like, like everything is

1134
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,240
just really bad.
But another way that they're

1135
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,120
trying to recruit actively
today.

1136
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,080
The younger members have TikTok,
Tik Toks, and they have

1137
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,400
Instagrams.
And so they're showing their

1138
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,680
lives and you can see.
How great that we are and yeah,

1139
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,320
yeah.
Well, look how great it is.

1140
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,040
I got to wear.
That's how I heard about it.

1141
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,320
I got to wear my mom's dress
that she wore in the 1970s.

1142
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,360
And like, this is the perfect
life.

1143
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,640
Like here's here's a look into
my life.

1144
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,040
And oh, by the way, you're going
to have an arranged marriage and

1145
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,760
you're going to have sex rituals
and yeah, don't.

1146
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,960
Let's not talk about that.
Yes, yeah.

1147
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,680
God.
So question before we leave,

1148
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:15,440
how, what, where's the money?
Like how does he get his money

1149
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,920
from the members?
So like Scientology, for

1150
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,200
example, you have to spend a
shit load of money to go through

1151
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,840
classes, right?
They make a lot of money on

1152
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,400
their members from the books and
the classes.

1153
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,400
Do they do that with their
members or are they getting

1154
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:37,200
their money from other sources
like the businesses and the all

1155
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,360
of that?
Well, OK, so one thing with

1156
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,000
cults that they often times do
is you have free labor.

1157
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,640
Yeah, you.
Have you're working for the

1158
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,720
betterment of Yes, the cult.
The Cult.

1159
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,560
And maybe the betterment of the
cult is working for a newspaper

1160
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,680
agency, and all of your money's
just going directly back into

1161
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,280
the church.
Right, right.

1162
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,000
So whatever money you're making
is really not yours.

1163
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,400
It's actually the true family's
money.

1164
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,480
Yeah.
So they're getting it from their

1165
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,040
members.
They're also getting it.

1166
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,600
They have multiple streams of
income still whether and and

1167
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,760
they're and they're affecting
policy today.

1168
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,920
Yeah, these people are affecting
policy today.

1169
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,040
Well.
Because they have money.

1170
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,520
Because.
They have money, so the money is

1171
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,920
coming from the members.
Free labor, right?

1172
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,680
People donating money like they
will ask for donations and I'm

1173
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,160
sure everything costs money.
So like, I'm sure that there are

1174
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,600
things that you can, you know,
buy through it, but I think the,

1175
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,720
the main source of income is the
free labor that they get from

1176
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,240
people.
If they're working for your, you

1177
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:43,920
know, tuna company, that money
is not going to them.

1178
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,440
They're, you know, maybe they're
staying at a church owned like

1179
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,240
home or whatever because they're
also huge in.

1180
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,440
Communal living.
They there's some communal

1181
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,480
living, but they're huge in real
estate.

1182
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,120
Oh, yeah.
Oh, OK, so Scientology.

1183
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,560
Yes, yeah, a lot of churches
are, Yeah.

1184
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,600
And if you're a church, you
don't have to, like in the

1185
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,400
United States, you don't have to
pay taxes like property taxes,

1186
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:14,200
which is fucked up.
Well, so here's the thing.

1187
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,600
Like, he's not nearly as fucked
up as Sherri Shepherd.

1188
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:25,520
And I know I say this like on my
broken record, but he he's, I

1189
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:30,000
feel like people would flock to
him more easily.

1190
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,000
His shtick, yeah, is more.
It's palatable.

1191
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,200
Palatable.
Yeah.

1192
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,960
Yes, so I think, I mean, I
skimmed over a lot of fucked up

1193
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,720
things.
Like I said, I could, I could go

1194
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,520
over what a fucking monster this
guy is 'cause he is.

1195
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,040
He sounded like it just from the
little bit we heard.

1196
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,600
Yeah, it's very.
I mean, he is, he's really

1197
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,120
fucked up and he's still a cult
leader.

1198
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,080
But like at the essence of it,
it's it's a very relatable

1199
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,240
message.
That he shares.

1200
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,840
That's how you get your members.
That's how you get them, yeah.

1201
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,880
Relate to them so well.
Thank you for a very thank you

1202
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,319
for finally diving into this.
Topic.

1203
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:11,640
I know, I know, I know.
I'm like, gosh, we're thinking

1204
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,760
now I'm like, oh, there's so
many things I could have gone

1205
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,960
over that I missed.
Well, we'll have the bonus

1206
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,479
content for subscribers, yes,
and they can hear all of this up

1207
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,080
crap.
And like, some of it, like,

1208
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,080
yeah, it is really fucked up.
Like going into like the rituals

1209
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,399
and stuff.
I would like to go into some

1210
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,160
good.
We'll do that.

1211
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:28,600
We'll do it.
All right.

1212
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:29,920
Thanks again for a great
episode.

1213
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,279
We'll see you later.
See you later.

1214
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:32,120
Bye.