Time Travel: Fact or Fiction

0:01 Hello bizarre story friends. You've tuned into the Bizarre AF, a place where we talk about the strange, the unusual, the unknown, and all things bizarre AF. I'm Kevin. I'm going to be your host for today's episode, and as always, we ask that you keep an open mind. Keep us skeptical here, but keep listening to the facts as we take you on our newest journey. Time travel fact or fiction? None.

0:58 Well, hello, my bizarre story friends and I would like to welcome my Co Hostess with the most. It's Alicia. Yes, hello. Hey, pumpkin girl. Hey, we are couple days before Christmas so I'm like wearing green. My socks also say, Can you read it? No. What does it say and I don't? Think I. Can't read. It it says no shit, I'm dramatic. Thanks Grandma And I'm all green and red today for today. Cute. Yeah. Like you, little hat. Yes, it was in the last episode too, but like honestly, I can only get like really a month of wear out of this. One or wear the shit out of it.

1:43 It was from fucking Nordstrom. It was not cheap. Thank you. Well. We can hear Marvin playing with the bottle on the concrete floor. So when you hear that? Those little like noises, it's ASMR dog. ASMR dog? Yeah, playing with this Alicia's water bottle. Yeah. Okay. And I'm wearing my little time traveler. Wait, can you see it? My. Yeah, my little. Time traveler shirt, Yeah. You are the. Future This is the shirt I wear in 1993 or 2093. Sorry, I'm like 1993. Oh my gosh, 2090. Three, Okay. So have you ever heard, Alicia of something called the Philadelphia Experiment?

2:27 You know what? It came up in my research for the last episode, The Philadelphia, The Philadelphia Experiment. Oh, I believe it 'cause you were talking about remote viewing. Some psychic stuff. I was talking about some psychic stuff and and really it was like more about like the frauds that can potentially hide within black budget deals and maybe maybe they just highlight the frauds because there are there's more, it's. Easy to prove. Yeah, it's easy to disprove and like. Also, you don't wanna let people know who your good psychics are. Well. Actually have. To disprove, yeah, exactly. OK. So that makes sense. Tell me about it. Well, have you ever heard of the Phoenix Project? No, I've not.

3:10 Have you ever heard of the Montauk project? That one I have heard of. Isn't that like like? They're all connected. OK, OK. OK, OK. OK. They're all connected. Not gonna guess so. Here's a fun fact. Yes, fun fact, the working title for Stranger Things was gonna be called Montauk. And it was because what the Montauk did in the 80s was these science experiments, kind of like how Stranger Things, if you watch Stranger Things that they did this whole science experiment. Yeah. And it's a different experiment. But that's was the working title of Stranger Things was Montauk. Montauk.

3:50 I mean, yeah, it makes sense, yeah. OK, so a series of United States government projects conducted in Camp Hero, which is in the Montauk Air Force area. Where is that? Montauk, NY is on the very Tippity Tippity Tippity tip tip end of Long Island. Of Long Island. Oh, OK. OK. Gotcha. Yep. And the purpose they were trying to develop psychological warfare techniques and researching really crazy things like, I don't know, time travel. Yes, time time time time time trap, trap, trap travel.

4:36 So Philadelphia experiments started out as most people believe was a World War 2 naval project. And the intent was to demagnetize ships so that the German magnetic bombs couldn't just, you know, be attracted to the ships and then blow them up so that they they were trying to get, figure out how to demagnetize these ships from the drum bombs. Right, right. A magnet is attracted. It's gonna find wherever the ship is. Yeah, makes total sense. And this process was very tedious because it required them to to dry dock the ships and a lot of times they had to, well, not a lot of times they had to take out the electronic equipment from the ships in order to do this.

5:24 Otherwise they would ruin the ships, the electronic equipment. So it wasn't clearly practical. So they needed to figure out a way to do this kind of real time. But then they also were trying to figure out how to make ships invisible. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Can I please also become invisible? Like, I would love that. If you were to be invisible, what would you? Oh, I'd be naked all the time. You would be naked. Oh, I'd. I'd walk around naked. OK. Why would you? OK, OK. OK. OK. Because because I could it. Was just like a bucket like I could just do this so. Because I couldn't be naked.

6:05 I couldn't be invisible and wear clothes, right? So OK. Unless I had the right outfit from the proper people like Mr. Spark or no, not Spark, Spike. Goddamnit. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Tony Stark, Tony. Stark. To create. My uniform to allow me to be invisible while wearing clothes. OK. Do you like being naked? No. OK, you would just do it so people could like because you don't want someone to see like your T-shirt and like. Yeah, right. OK, OK. Well, let's say that, yeah, we figured out how to do that. What would you do? Where would you go?

6:46 With it, God, there's so many possibilities. I don't know. Would you be nosy as fuck? Would you like? Yeah, no, I. Would do some nosy thing. No, I would steal. I would be nosy. I think I would be nosy and maybe I'd have like, like, I'd go into, Oh my gosh, how cool would it be to like, OK, one of my favorite places in the whole wide world is we were talking last time like, I'm not like this hoity toity. I'm like this is going to make me sound so bad. I'm totally hoity toity. So in Paris, yeah, there is this place at the Ritz, the Ritz, Paris, the hotel. There's the Hemingway bar, and it's like, it's infamous. I will probably do an episode on the Hemingway bar because there's so much interesting shit that happened there. I would love to just like go there and like, steal sips from people's drinks.

7:49 Oh my God. Just like, like and like. See the types of people who go in there because you walk in and like, good God, like, honestly, this was freaking four or five years ago. Every single cocktail is like €35 each. Oh good God. Yeah, but I mean, it's so worth it. It's so worth it. Like like once you're there and like they're treated like it's so there's just like the history and like, once again, hoity toity. My dad would say I have champagne taste on a beer budget. Yeah, I know that. OK, sorry. So go ahead. They were. What they were trying to do is is make these ships. Invisible.

8:30 Yeah, yeah. And they get like I said again, also some time traveling stuff. God, that would be so cool. Time traveling. Right could. Really. Change so oh and before we go any further just a really quick just a quick thing quick thing and our our viewers can't you have to be watching this to appreciate it and so I apologize in advance. So just for if you're listening please just bear with me for a minute. So we got these things from TikTok. Yeah, TikTok Shop. TikTok Shop. We all hate to love TikTok Shop. Hate to love it. And they're little cotton candy bombs. And so when you pour liquid in with these little white cotton candy.

9:15 Oh, wait, let me switch. OK. There. Yeah. There. OK. Where the Cindy. Here. Watch. So it's like a little piece of cotton candy and it transforms the colour. Did you choose red? I did the orange. 10 It's orange. Oh wait, Watch, watch. Look at it. See. It's sparkling. Look at the swivel. Oh yeah, there is. There's like glitter at the bottom. Yeah, that is really nice. There's glitter bombs. So then I chose purple. Let's see it. I'm not sure if you can hear it, but like, oh, I think you can see it more in the purple. See the purple better? But the purple?

9:56 Oh, maybe I maybe it's blue. Actually, maybe I accidentally chose blue. No, no, I chose purple. I think they packaged it wrong. OK, so. Look, that's the blue. That is the blue. So Kevin was saying. I got the orange, yeah. Beforehand that I think. I think if you're gonna get that, the blue's better. It was. Better look at that. It's really nice. See if I. Can hold it up to the camera. It's like swirling like these. So it's like these, yeah, it's like this little like square of cotton candy and you pour it and it it allows for like there's like glitter. I guess it's kind of. Cloud of of blue glitter. Yeah, and people will do. I wonder. You could do remember Absynth Cheers episode.

10:38 It'd be fun to do Absynth with it. OK. Oh my God, but friends get the blue cause the blue is like. Yeah, it's really pretty. I feel like the orange is more like pearlescent. Yes. Anyway, TikTok Shop works. Who knew? OK. So as I was saying, they the contrary to anything you can find or read about this stuff. Yeah, this experiment. According to a guy named Al. I think it's Beilick BEILEK.

11:20 We're just gonna call him Al from this point going forward, OK? His name is Al, OK? And he's actually a survivor of the Philadelphia Experiment. Oh, he does he call himself a survivor? Well, I call him a survivor because when you hear about what has happened, then you'll understand why. OK, he he says that everything that actually happened, it culminated in two tests for the for the Eldridge. The Eldridge is the USS Eldridge and this was a ship that was docked in Philadelphia at at the base. OK, now the original test in 1943 was what he says was bad enough from just personnel problems, but it didn't, what he calls lock up or connect with the Phoenix Project.

12:21 Now you're going. What the fuck are you talking? About like I. Don't even understand these words you're saying. But this is all gonna come together. When I say lock up to the Phoenix Project, it's all gonna kind of come together. OK, the actual final Test, which happened on August 12th of 1943, which is a very critical day. August what? August 12th? That is where the ship actually went into hyperspace. What? And came back a complete disaster. Were people on this ship? People were. On the ship, he was one of them. He actually jumped.

13:06 He jumped from the ship. OK. And this is a lot, this is a lot really fast. But we're we're going to try to get through. It so they so in August 12th, 1943, the ship jumped into hyperspace. They put they got the ship into hyperspace on August 12th of 1943, OK. OK, if somebody's jumping from it, that means it is not going well. You don't jump from something you want to be on. Now they he says the nature the disaster was, is and was far greater than anyone realizes.

13:49 This is what Alice says. Oh, OK. And the potential disaster which was averted, it would have been far, far worse. Now, a lot of the stuff he really doesn't go into, he doesn't. He doesn't clarify a lot. And I think a lot of it is. I don't know why he doesn't. I don't know if he's scared. Is he still alive? He I don't know. Probably not I. Don't think he? That's a good question. He when his last I think he might be he might be we need to look it up he might be OK.

14:32 So here's here's let me let me first before we dive into the details I'm going to give you a quick summary. So on August 12th of 93 the Phoenix project locks up with the Philadelphia project and we're going to talk about what those two projects were in just a second. OK, now in the Philadelphia, the USS Eldridge was locked up in the Philadelphia naval yard and it was, it was equipped with this ship had this equipment on it that they've been developing to make this all work, which we're, again, we're gonna talk about in a second. Now, the Phoenix project was taking place in the extreme end of Long Island, where we're talking about near Montauk. OK, that's that's where the Phoenix project took place. And it's like I said way out on the tip of of of Long Island is there's there's this little town or this little State Park. And just out inside of it was a town called Montauk and there's a base called Fort Hero.

15:36 And so that base was had been there since 1916 and it was banned in 1986 for reasons that we're going to go into in a little bit. Now there were 25 bases that had the facility and the ability to do what this facility could do what but they call and they but they called this particular facility prime home. This is all sounding like very Amazon, very creepy shit. It's like like esoteric, like, I don't know, weird stuff. We're gonna go all the way.

16:22 We're gonna, I'm gonna take you all the way back to 1931 to help us build the story to where we what we're talking about today. OK, So as I mentioned, the USS Eldridge was drawn into hyperspace and it was trapped there. And two men, this Alec, this Al guy, and a guy by the name of Duncan Cameron. They were working on the Philadelphia project. They leaped from the deck of the Eldridge while it was in hyperspace. What the fuck? And they ended up, after a period of time, very disoriented. They ended up in Camp Hero in 1983. What they went from like 19, four, like 20 years in the OR excuse me, 40 years in the future?

17:08 Exactly, Exactly 40 years. So when I'm like sitting here like, uh, huh, on this Al right now, you're like, I don't fucking know, Is he still around? I guess he. Keeps jumping around in time. Oh my God. OK. OK, so here they claim to have met a guy by the name of John van Newman who is a very famous physicist and mathematician, which you can Google, although he died in 1957. 1950. 7:00 But they met him in 1983. What? OK, wait a second. So there's one more thing before we get into. This OK OK, I want to ask any questions. Time travel time fucks with my head like I'm like there's my Achilles heel.

17:52 Yes. Time like when I have to program in time. Right. That's why I have to do, like, anything in time. Like if I watch these stupid fucking Marvel movies where they do time travel, Loki, that shit, I can't. I can't. I can't. My mind explodes. Like I can't follow it. You're just like. Yep. Nope. Nope. Does not compute. Nope. At all I got a stock. Budget. So what they say is like time like a very common thing that people say who are in these circles right is time is not linear. Time is like it can all stack on each other. And we had talked about it in a past episode where we're like, when you're hearing things, are seeing ghosts, could it be that it's the same?

18:39 Yes, like you're. Talking about dimensions. Yes, you're both in the same space and it's just like replaying. Yes. Or or like you're seeing what had happened in the past, that's really like happening currently. Yes, or a future or a different time strand or oh Jesus, please, I'm. No, no your your brain's going to explode. Which? Is why I don't even know why I do these episodes you. I know you do all the time. All the time. It's because you're trying to grab a little bit more. I think I am trying to grasp it. OK, so this Alec guy and this guy named Preston Nichols, they do what's called a Montauk debrief and they try to explain this stuff. And once I started digging into it again, as I said before, my brain kind of explodes.

19:33 Plus, it's just a complete rat's nest maze of shit that I don't understand. And they talk about it so nonchalantly, like, you know, it's like when you hear LL or fucking Big Bang guy Alt, or you're talking the wrong Sheldon. Yeah, Sheldon from Big Bang. And he starts just talking about stuff or whatever. And like, oh, you know, the neurophysicists have the right angle with the. Perplexing, you know. Gobbledygook. Yeah, and they just talk about it like nonchalantly. Like you should know. Right. You know, not not to go back to what we're talking about, but Al did die in Fort Myers in 2007.

20:16 Just an FYI. That's when his death was. OK. Oh, great. OK, this is OK. So Al has passed away. He's no longer. He's no. Longer with us in this timeline. RIP. Pour one out for Al. In this timeline. In this timeline currently, but he did meet. Yeah, he met Jean Von Newman. Newman Yeah, yeah. In in in 1980. Three, although he died in 1957. Although he died in 1957. Yeah, OK, So what? What the fuck did Newman say? OK, so because Newman, OK, we're going to learn about Newman. Sorry. Yeah, we're going to learn about Newman.

20:57 So to do all this, we're going to go all the way back to 1931. 31, OK. OK, University of Chicago got a guy named Doctor John Hutchinson, a little old guy called Nikola Tesla. Oh, yes. Yep. And a guy named Doctor Emil Canton. Cantown. Curtanauer. Curtanauer, Curtanauer. E-mail Curtanauer. Curtanauer, sure. OK, so Roosevelt was elected in 33. Yep. He invites Tesla over to his little place. His little place called the White House. These guys have known each other since 1919. Oh gosh.

21:49 And so he asked Tesla. He goes, hey, what's up, bud? What's up, dude? And he says, well, you know, I got a lot of things in the fire. Let's see, I'm working on Project Invisibility. That's going pretty good. Got some work there to do there. But, you know, just looks looking promising. Oh, and I've been communicating with extraterrestrials. Oh my God, I love Tesla. He's such a fucking Coke. I love it. So 1933, he's like like Roosevelt houses him, has him over for some tea, and they're like, discussing. Yep, Yep. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Working on invisibility. And Oh yeah, I've been talking to to ETS. No, no problems.

22:33 Aliens. Like they exist. OK. So wait. I meant Eisenhower. Oh Eisenhower, Eisenhower. Eisenhower so. And President is like, he's into this stuff anyway, by the way, if we don't. Eisenhower is. He's like. Only into, like, psychics and like, kooky crazy shit. Getting a little, oh J Edgar Hoover was like the one who liked to trust. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. OK. And he was like, he was like really into metaphysics and all this stuff and so like. He's open. Yeah, and then so Tesla's kind of like, you know, he's.

23:15 In his people. Yeah, he's one of his peeps, right? And so Tesla tells him about all of this stuff. And so Tesla was actually working with the company RCA, and he had been there also since like late like early 1920s, late 19 teens. And in 35, he becomes the Vice President and Director of Engineering and Research at RCA. OK subsequently retires in 39, but upside the point, OK. Now during now during the time that Tesla was the Director of Engineering and Research in RCA, they had developed these like super sensitive receivers and well receivers and transmitters I guess.

24:11 And the intent was that they wanted to use these for overseas communication and that's how they were going to get around the bend of the earth was with these super sensitive transmitters and receivers. Meanwhile, at this point in time, wasn't World War 2 already kicked off it already? It had already kind of started like Germany was. Yes. Was like pushing their like Nazi propaganda. It was at this point in time. Well, it's yes. So we're going to get to that. But it had not. He's trying to. Historically. Yes, historically. Well, at this point it's not there yet, but I mean it's sorry, let me get back up. It's engaged.

24:52 Yeah, it's happening, but the US is not involved. Not, yes, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So, like, this stuff is happening in Europe. There's a good reason to have these like, these sensitive. Yes. Transmitters and receivers. Yes. So putting like money into it, Good reason for it. Because we have this, like, burgeoning empire. Yes. The Nazis? Yes, A potential world power who wants to take over the whole world. Precisely, that's right. Give us money, yeah. So, OK, so he he says.

25:33 Tesla says he uses this equipment and tells the president that he has been communicating with, quote, solar groups. Solar which? Means sun, so I'm assuming that means that they're coming like they're from the sun. Right. Like, makes no sense to me. But yeah, Tesla was also involved. Like a little bird, yeah. So the president says, oh, OK, well then can I talk to them? Yeah. And Tesla goes, Oh yeah, definitely. I can arrange that. Totally, totally. And he says, well then can I meet them? And he goes, yeah, I think that's possible. I I think we can do that.

26:22 What? So Tesla had, like, met them? Oh, OK. OK, OK. So Tesla says there's these two groups that you'd be into it probably going to be interested in talking with if you want to make any sort of deal because like you said, war's going on. He. Needs some help right? We see it coming up like on the horizon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, US was just getting out of the that bad depression. I mean, a lot of shit happening, right? Yeah, we had. And then World War One, it happened like like in the teens. The 19 teens. So they make arrangements to meet these two groups. The first group is called the Palladians. Oh my God.

27:05 The second group are called the Kondrashkin with AK. That's very, like, very Star Trek. She does. Well, maybe this is where Roddenberry gets his information. I don't know. I'm just saying love. It. So the president meets with the Palladians to get an idea of what they can do to help. Yeah, help a brother out. And he says OK, but I just need to see what this other group can do first. So I'm not going to make any kind of deal, but let me just see what. These let me talk, let me see, let me see what my options are. It's like, it's like very smart.

27:49 You want to see. You don't want to make a deal with the first person that you make. You. Just like if you're If you're looking for a sweater, look at multiple places Exactly what's the best deal? What's the best feel, Yeah. So he meets the second group and he decides, Yup, I'm gonna go with the second group. No, I have a bad feeling about this. I already have a bad feeling about this because the Kardashian sounds like Kardashian and that sounds like. Kardashian evil they are. Yeah, the Kardashians just want money, dude. They just want money. So as a result, the Palladians go, OK, well, we're gonna go on over to Nazi Germany and make a deal with Hitler. What I hope Palladians were supposed to be peaceful. They work with Hitler, those fucking, and help him with his technology needs.

28:40 Turncoats. Dude. Turncoats. So This is why they believe test Dick face Hitler. Yeah, Dick face for sure. Was able to do all those sciency experimenting technology. Things because he. Got the help with the Palladians. Interesting. OK. So the second group, the Kondrashkins, so they can offer some new industries and some other other things. And so in 1938, an offer is made and they set up this, this brand new industry called Atomic Energy. And so this is a very intriguing to Roosevelt. And he says, so he goes and he talks to his advisors. Military, of course.

29:35 And the military is like, whoa, calm your tits, girl. Yeah, like. We can't. Just let We can't just let these ETS or aliens to them as far as they're concerned. Just set up some like like industry like this and let him run with it. Meanwhile, can we just talk about how Tesla's like, a little Cray Cray. He has a straight up relationship with a pigeon. He thinks that he's in love with a fucking pigeon. Like, you're sitting here saying you're talking to these solar groups. Eisenhower's like, yeah, I believe in all this woo stuff, which like, come on, you're talking to, like, friends here, right? But like, also you're asking for how much money. And like, there's a war burgeoning and you're talking about this thing called atomic, like power and stuff. And like, that will destroy everything. Right.

30:25 And you're just gonna let these aliens just run with it? Yeah. And like, I'm assuming all this is being vouched for with like our, like, top scientists. I know, Like historically, they're like, yeah, this technology's actually like something can happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. That's why they're telling him though, dude, you can't do this, especially in our home turf. And let them doing this here and in and in essence, you're letting them control it. They're the only ones that understand it. So calm your tits. Calm your tits. No, absolutely not. And so so finally he goes, OK, you're right, that's probably nuts.

31:07 And so he tells the K people you know, never mind. Bye, bye. OK. The Condrashkins. Congressions, yes. So now it's 1940 and we don't hear from the K peeps. We haven't heard from the K peeps. And so he's getting concerned. Eisenhower. Roosevelt. The president? Yeah. The Roosevelt. Oh no. Whoever the. Eisenhower. That's Eisenhower. I keep getting him messed up. Yeah. Whoever the president is, yeah. Is it Is it Eisenhower or is it Roosevelt? Sorry, it doesn't matter. Well, we're just calling him Eisenhower because that's what you said first. Or that's what you said I. Think it is Eisenhower. I know people listening are going to be they're. Going to be so irritated.

31:49 They're like, no, don't you know Roosevelt? Actually, I think Roosevelt was like. Wait, I know how we can do this. Do you have your phone? Wait, I have my phone. Watch this. Yeah, do this. Watch. Hey, Siri, Who was the president in 1940? President Franklin D Roosevelt. There we go. OK, so I'll. OK, so Roosevelt. That's Roosevelt. It is, yeah, said Eisenhower. OK. Well, he. OK, let me tell you why you said that, OK? Because Roosevelt was the head of like the military, or to me, Eisenhower was the hell of military. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So Roosevelt was the president. Eisenhower was like the main dude for the military. He was like a four-star general or whatever. OK, here we go.

32:33 That's it. That's why. So it is synonymous like they're they're both interchangeable. OK, so they're getting worried. Roosevelt's getting worried. Yes. No one can find them, can't seem to talk to them anymore. Key People are gone. Meanwhile, we know that the Nazis have the Palladians. The Palladians are working with the Nazis, the. Solar group. Right, so someone comes up with this really bright idea and they go, hey Prez, why don't we go find some really good psychics? And let's do the tie in. And let's see if they can tell us what's going on, right?

33:16 I'm glad we know the press was like, all into metaphysical, like psychic shit. So he was like. He's open to all that, yeah. He was like, let's do it. So there's this guy named Bennett who was the president's kind of like right hand man. Every president has a right hand. Man, right? And so he was tasked with going out and finding some of these really good psychics. So they he lets him go do that. And so he has to create this organization secret. Of course, we can't let the American people know what's going on. So he's creates this little secret organization. OK They later label this organization as the Cycor PSI Corps CORPS.

34:06 Oh. I like that. OK, I think it's a cool name. It's. Like, it is a really cool name. I'm I'm flipping out. So this was the backbone or yeah, like the back, but the main like the main organization, right that was ultimately in charge of all kinds of level of spying and operations and intelligence and this organization was going until mid 50s sixties. Oh wow. Now again, I hate was it really dismantled?

34:52 That's, that's what we're talking, yeah, that's what we're talking about in our last episode was, you know, when we're talking about, you know, Uri Geller and. And they say that they dismantled. Project. Yeah. It's like like we hear about the failures. Are we going to ever hear about the successes? Why would we? No. And like and you have these individuals who come out are like, yeah, I'm retired from the military. I don't have to talk like I my clearance like whatever my statue is like over and I can talk about the fact that I did like this was successful like I found these people or like this project or whatever the case may be like I found a freaking, you know one of them was so extreme that like she found an atomic bomb that was like in a plane crash.

35:47 And like honestly the fact that our, the one thing I will say is like that it is like a pointer to the fact that we don't know everything I think is we have the ability for nuclear weapons. They have only been used well, like as like a threat and as a a thing to end stuff once. Hiroshima. And Hiroshima, I know people are fucking crazy and there is no possible way that this is that. That this is just one case. Like if we are correct and like there are either psychics or aliens or whatever stopping like more nuclear war, Like I am surprised with how we had fucking Donald Trump.

36:38 Oh my God. We had Donald Trump as a God damn, like, you know, like the fact that we didn't break out into nuclear war then like that's that's saying to me that potentially there are other powers that be that we don't know about potentially pulling the strings. Oh yeah, you know. Without question, yeah, it can't. Yeah, it's not just the one. Only one bomb's gone off at the whole world. Like how many countries have had it right? There's no way right? Anyways, what I'm saying is like check in the box of yeah kicks and all that shit. Yep, Yep. Yep. OK, so. So we're at the Cycorps.

37:20 So we're at the Cycorps. So now in but it's we're back in 1940 so the so the Cycor's in isn't it infancy And so they hired the these bunch of psychics who they obviously had to be good, proven they were good, very knowledgeable, legitimate, knew what they were doing. Obviously they could prove it. They were all giving these new identities, these psychics, and they were put into the secret warehouse in Virginia and they go about their little psychic activities. Now what isn't really clear is were they able to ever find the K people like that?

38:09 That was never really. I never really could find any. Did they buddy talking about that? They try to go back with the Palladians or have a conversation with the Palladians. No, the Palladians are like a lost cause at this point. They've already chosen sides kind of thing. Exactly. OK, so now it's 1941. They, they really don't have any official person heading this. They got to find someone to head this organization and all these programs. And one of the programs, by the way, in this required that they go out and find twins. And twins was very important. And they were. And they were mostly males, of course, because only males could do things back in those days, apparently.

38:54 Right, we. All which we know. Yes, males. Males were the only, you know, people who could had any sense in their brain, had any, could do absolutely anything worthwhile. Literally, like, we were just having a conversation about how dumb men are, like right before this. God bless you. Like like, we know that's not the truth, right? But like, women were like Rosie the Riveter, like building things or whatever, and men had all the power and the education and stuff like that. Women knew how to cook and clean. Yeah, which is like so easy. So it's like so easy compared to like working at a job. Oh, you don't know how to do all this hard stuff. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

39:37 You have no idea. Like, she's like, I literally run the whole home that you live in, Like by myself, Yeah. OK, so they did have, they did have a few female twins. I they they they acknowledged they did have a few. OK, but it was mainly male. Mostly males. That they were fighting, OK and twins at that point in time were not 50 pairs of. Twins pairs of. Twins and like one thing I will say is like now twins are more common because a lot of people use IVF and stuff like that. So like when I was growing up, it was not very common to have twins. It was like we had like. 'Cause that was a natural. I don't say oddity, but it was a natural occurrence. Yeah, fluke.

40:18 Yeah. Or like ran in someone's family. It was like a genetic thing that was very, very rare. So it was rare? Exactly. So back then, to find 50 like twins would be really, really hard today. Not so hard, yeah. And they used them as some sort of telepathy because they thought that the twins would were connected. Yeah, of course. And so the idea was they would put them in this equipment. And it was kind of like a pyramid. Well, not kind of like it was a pyramid. So imagine being in a room or not a room. Imagine, yeah, imagine being in room. And then you're sitting directly under a pyramid that is built out of, I don't know, a copper tube. And it was 10 feet by 10 feet.

41:00 And so you had a triangle, a pyramid, right? Yeah, yeah. And so imagine 10 feet cube and then it goes up to a pyramid, right, the the cube. And you're sitting in a chair directly under this pyramid. Uh huh. OK. And they had some kind of electrical power going through this copper tubing. And the idea was that the twin 1 twin would sit in in this pyramid and the other one would go about their business, I don't know, infiltrating the Kremlin. So was the idea that the Pyramid, like, made it like a satellite or receiver or amplified? Amplified the the twins psychic signals and would allow them to transmit and remote view. Or, you know, not necessarily did it have? To did it have to be like copper or metal like? In which this was, I think it had to be some sort of a metal. And was it instructed upon, like, or from the aliens? You know, OK, this was these designs were coming. From the aliens, like you need this like copper, yes, this. Someone needs to sit in here and like they have because you hear about like twin like languages and stuff like that. Like it's a oh, like twins come up with like a language. They can talk to each other.

42:12 They can kind of feel things before it even happens. That's. Why they wanted twins. So they wanted twins? Yeah. So it's a better telephone. Yes, better telephone, yeah. That's right. OK. OK. So eventually the CIA is formed, right? And they take over this organization in 1947. So now they own the Cycorp. They're in charge of Cycorp. AKA we will not find out anything about it afterwards. Whatever they want. Yeah. And then in about 1950, the NSA comes into being. And then they transferred the Cycor to the NSA. And Cycor has been in control of the NSA ever since. So it's still in existence.

43:00 Well, the, you know, that's up for debate. Right. Up for debate? Yeah. OK, so then there's this man that ran it. His name is Emil Padai Khustain Khustain KHUSTAIN. Khustain. Khustain, yeah. He was born in the 1900s and he was very much undercover in the government. Like, no one heard of it. Like, he's very powerful, but no one heard of him. Kind of a guy that's that's exactly how you have power is like, nobody knows that.

43:43 Yeah, he's like a man in black. And it was later discovered he was actually a walk in into the FBI. That's how he got in. That's how he got into the government. It was a walk in. Can I tell you something? Yeah. You know, people talk about like all of these, like, oh, you have this schooling and you have this thing and whatever. Those are the people who have been like schooled and like, you know how they're going to react. You get these people who are from wherever or independent thinkers like they can kind of. They're the ones who like, can control things and can think outside the box. So you do want someone like Khostain to come inside of? It exactly. Yep. I mean, if you want to be successful, this kind of scares me.

44:25 It's going to creep you out in a minute. Great. Guess who he really Who? Khostain. Really, he's a walk in. Remember, he's a walk in. Who? Where is he from? I think he's a fucking like he's one of the aliens, one of the solar groups. He is. Shut but. He's one of the K people. He's one of the K people. So what, he's like checking in on them? Uh, huh. Costain. Come on, Costain. You couldn't have been any more like, obvious about it. Like Costain, Not Kardashian, but whatever. What is it? Kardashians. We'll call them the Kardashians. They're the Kardashians. Like, come on, at least be called like Jamal. Exactly.

45:10 You. Know like, like a little bit different. Brad John, not AK. Come on. OK, so. So he comes in. So he. Comes out as a walk in? Yep. And. So think about so like if you if you wanted to kind of spy on this organization that you were wanting them to help you or do things for you, I mean this is a perfect cover like it's and then get them to do things that you need them to do. It was perfect. Perfect. That is very true, yeah. Yeah, and so. It's a brand new like thing offshoot. And so now why it's so important in terms of these two experiments, the Philadelphia and the Phoenix Project, it's very important that he's in place. We'll get there, but.

46:01 They made a deal. But he he needed to be here to get this stuff to work. In 1950. Yeah, OK. Which is going to blow your mind when you again this whole time travelling shit, because 1947 this happened in 47. That he comes in in 47. No, he comes in in 19. 50. This is what exactly, but in 47 is when the actual experiment happened. Gotcha. OK. OK. OK. So tracking Costain, who's part of the kid group, yes, that we did like the United States did business. Agreed with yes. He walks into this like, what is it? NSA.

46:45 He walks into the NSA. He's like, I want a job. FBIFBIFBI. OK, so that. Was his entry point into OK, NSA? Yeah. OK, so he goes first to the FBI in 1950, then he goes to the NSA. Yes. And then he's a pivotal player in something that happened in 19. 47. Dun Dun Dun. Mic drop. Yeah. All I can say is time's not linear, and there's more to this world than we even know. So Costain came in, but he's going to be proven pivotal in the Philadelphia experiment. Yep.

47:29 Oh my God. OK. I'm not gonna be able to sleep tonight. I just know it. Kevin, you always do this to me. I never choose the scary ones. I never choose the scary ones. So these two projects, the Philadelphia Experiment and the Phoenix Project would, as they call it, lock up or join. And it happens on a very critical date, a date. August 12th, Yes. In 1943 and 198383 was when the Phoenix Project connected and that's when the Phoenix Project or that base was sabotaged. It's same same thing August 12th. August 12th.

48:20 OK, the That was exactly 40 years apart. Yeah. What was supposed to happen in 63? We were supposed to have an event in 63436383 on August 12th. It didn't happen in 63, which we will talk about why in just a moment. But August 12th is very critical date. Yep. Now, do you Remember Me mentioning a guy named Doctor John Van Newman? Yeah, Doctor John. I have him. Yeah. He was the 2nd and final director of the Philadelphia Experiment in 1947. He was also the first director in the Phoenix Project when it came online after the war, World War Two. OK, so they start building the Phoenix Project. He was chosen for both of those.

49:25 Interesting. What's up with Doctor John Newman? The important phase of the Phoenix project was from 1975 through 83 because remember they they really started building it around 75. It was on. We'll get into it in just a second. I don't. I'm trying to. I'm jumping ahead because I'm, I'm excited to talk about it, but 83 is when was a was we talked about the critical that was the August 12th of 83, yes that was the end of the Phoenix project which we'll talk about in a second, OK. That's when they develop the Phoenix Project's, when they actually develop the capability of time travel and of what they called what doctor, a guy named Carl Sagan. Have you heard that?

50:21 Oh, yes, Carl Sagan, Yeah. He, he calls them time tunnels. Time tunnels or wormholes, which we've heard of wormholes, These were all fully functioning time tunnels. And then that's, that's kind of how that's my dog Marvin, 'cause we're talking about time tunnels, I think. Yeah, he wants to play. No, Marvin, you can't. You can't do it right now. OK, so someone had to know in order to get these two experiments to lock up.

51:09 In 83 Marvin, and in 43, someone had to know something. Someone had to be able to. Someone knew something? Yeah, I think the only. These are critical dates. Yeah, yeah. And the only person who's involved in both projects is Doctor John Newman. He's the he's the he is like. And Mr. K Man the The K Man walk in. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. Right, OK. The Alien. Right. Exactly. So clearly the Kardashians or the K people or no, not the Kardashians.

51:50 Sorry, I'm gonna get in trouble, but not the Kardashians. Kardashian. Kon Kondrash kin. Kondrashkin. Kondrash Kin. Yeah, yeah. OK. Kondrashkin. Now, they clearly knew what was going on, on both ends. Yeah, they're, they're, they're. Playing both sides. They know shit, exactly. They need stuff. They're going to make shit. Happen. Happen. Yeah, absolutely. Now, according to our friend Al, who jumped from the ship, Yep, the real purpose of the two projects, aside from their initial purpose of demagnetizing Marvin stuff a time, you know, the stuff that they wanted it to do, was to get these two projects to lock up.

52:46 Yeah. And they had to be locked up long enough, and they had to be connected long enough to get an entire spaceship from one time frame and dimension into ours. That was the point. They needed to get a time, a spaceship. What I saw your eyes go, they had to get the a very large spaceship from another time frame and dimension. They had to get it through. That was the point of creating these projects in two different decades and well, in different. OK, OK.

53:29 OK. OK. OK, it's still we're crazy, but we're going to, we're going to still we're going to, we're going to fill in some more gaps. OK, I'm not going to ask. Questions. OK. We're going to still fill in my OK, now they. So like the Phoenix Project and sorry, I cannot, I cannot. So like the Phoenix Project and the Philadelphia Project are really the same project, right? No, no. They're two different projects in two different decades. I get that, but what I'm saying is like, they're really the same project. They're working toward the same goal. Exactly, yes. It's like sister projects, yeah, and nobody's saying that. No, because you don't know.

54:11 You don't know that as a person working on the Philadelphia project. Yeah, like this is going to happen. You don't know that the Phoenix project in 83, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, I totally get that. Yeah, OK. OK, so now they say. Tripping out? As of about 1947, the K people were like a lost cause, right? Because they've lost all communication, all interaction. This is now after 19 or the World War Two. Yeah, we haven't heard from them. We won the war. What the fuck. Ever. So here comes 1954.

54:58 There was another group that became of interest into the government. Any guess who they are? Like is an extraterrestrial. The Whites. The Grays. The Grays. The Grays. OK, friends, talk about my worst nightmare is the Grays. The Grays, like, I'm like, very disappointed in the Palladians. Like what I've heard about them. Like, historically they've been decent. The Greys like, yeah. Bad news. This is, this is what my nightmares are fuelled with, is the greys. But you know, all the US government they they'll play with anybody shady.

55:44 So, so that's that's part of The thing is like when you're talking about like governmental, like you know folks often times what they're trying to say is like, OK, you're a government, you're trying to win a war. You're trying to get like a level up on other governments. How do you do that? Weapons, this do not fuck with us because we have these weapons or whatever. So if you're talking to like an alien race, and they are, you know, they have like more of a technological capability, you're going to ask for that, that technology. And what is the price that you're going to have to pay when it comes to technologies, especially from the greys. And this is just like my tin hat conspiracy, because I don't trust the motherfucking greys.

56:36 I I cannot stand them. They scare the shit out of me, like, honestly, and this is just me going down like Reddit rabbit holes and shit. But when you're doing stuff like that, like you see that the greys always have an ulterior motive. But don't. Don't the US. No, what I'm saying is like it's a it's yes, it is like. It's like shady playing with shady. Totally, yeah. We are just the fucking idiots that live with under like the auspices or under the the rule of the shady, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And so.

57:17 The greys come in. The greys come in. Yes. And actually I misspoken that wasn't 1954 this, we're still in 47. Sorry I jumped, I jumped ahead. OK. And so, do you recall that same year, a little bitty bitty crash in a little bitty bitty town called Roswell? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely. Yeah, Roswell knew it. Do you remember who came out of Roswell? Alien Oh, our good friend J9. Our JJ 14 J Rod. J Rod are friends of J Rod? Yeah, we're friends of J Rod. J Rod came out of Oh my God, because we talked about We had an entire episode about J Rod and Element 115. That's right.

58:07 So the US calls, they get on the phone. They're like trying to call the Kardashians. Yeah, and. They're like, hey bitches, we got this guy, we he's sick. We don't know what. To do with that, yeah. We What did we do? Like help? Yeah, got this. He's still alive everything because that like that plane crash had happened and he had like two other. Yep, like people, it got separated. It got separated, but like he was the only survivor. The other two died pretty quickly. Yeah, I think they, yeah, they remember they split him up or something. Yes, they split him up and like the other two died, either just right after or like, yeah, yeah, he was the only survivor. Well, these fucking people didn't respond to the US for the.

59:00 Kardashians didn't. The Kardashians didn't respond for years. Bitches years. Fucking Chris. I thought you always answered your phone. What the? Fuck. Like, but really like, how funny would it be if we had the Kardashians? The Kardashians. OK, Kardashians. I am a Star Trek fan, so it's actually Kardashians. But there's also Kardashians anyways. And. Where are the Where are the Kardashians? These are the Kardashians. But like, wouldn't it be funny to talk to the Kardashians or the Kardashians about the Kardashians and like, alien shit? I wonder what they think about it. They're like, no, we are aliens. I'd be like, cheers to that. I fucking knew it anyway.

59:45 Sorry. Yep. So they call, they're calling out to, you know, because they can communicate, right? They've been. And they're like, hey, we got this dude. Well, we have a few dudes, but we got this dude. He's sick. Finally get an answer several years later. Oh gosh. It's this group of small ships that show up around 1953 and there's greys on them. Oh, OK. And this part is a bit jumbled. Like I I was getting really lost and having a hard time tracking this part of the story and really full, like fully understanding.

1:00:31 But it was almost like they insinuated there was some sort of, like, hostage exchange of some sort. Or like here we're going to give you some humans and you're gonna give us RET's. Kind of. Thing. Yeah, yeah. Well, because the Grays always want to do like medical experiments and stuff on humans. Exactly, exactly. From, from, from just like going down the Reddit, Reddit rabbit holes once again we need some freaking tinfoil hats because then I could put it on and say OK this is where this information is coming from. But but historically greys always want like something genetically from humans and so it's always a trade off. Like it's never like, hey, sure, Eisenhower, sure, Roosevelt. Like we can do whatever you want. But like you then owe us American people like these specific people, that we need genetic information. That is why people ask the question, why do you need? Why did they need us?

1:01:35 Why did the aliens need us? And there was two reasons. One was because we had the ability to create these mechanisms or these mechanical mechanisms that they needed in some form or fashion. And two was because we were warm my bodies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like it's like a organ donation kind of thing, like like they need. Exactly, exactly. Marvin. Well, if you guys are watching, Marvin is trying to get Alicia to play. Yeah, he wants to. I want to hold him because. But he keeps on running away from me. Let me see. If I can get him. Oh, yeah, there he is. Just hold his, Hold his legs.

1:02:15 Hold his legs. Yeah. There you go. There. We go now. He's going to be chill. Maybe if I can, can I squeeze? Yeah, there you go. He just needs his feet supported. Oh, he's hiking. You OK? But they always want something. Nothing's ever for free. No, of course not. Yeah. OK, so they keep J Rod. Obviously we we learned. We've learned about that before, but they give some Earthlings back, apparently, from what I could gather. And then the Grays promised to return in 54. Now I couldn't tell if that was a promise or a threat. Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't tell we're going to return in 54 or hey, we'll return in 54.

1:03:01 Like I couldn't tell. Yeah, it was like a good thing. Or Yeah, totally. But they did. But they returned in very large numbers and this was in the Edwards Air Force Base. Where's Edwards Air? Force and Holman's Air Force Base. Edwards. God, that's a good question. I can't remember where that one is either. Hey Siri, where's Edwards Air Force Base? I should I should just have my? Hey Siri, where's Edwards Air Force Base? OK, here's what I found. The bitch doesn't even tell you. Oh, she doesn't look at her.

1:03:43 Anyway, so there are two different. Southern California. Oh, OK. And so they come in droves. So the last time that we saw the greys, they were coming in, it was a very small pocket of them, right? That one here who answered our call. Answered the call. To What the Fuck do we do with J Rod? Yes, and apparently was some kind of shady thing again, because. They wanted. To deal. With like. But now they come back with hundreds of thousands. Of spaceships. Aliens ETS. Yeah, it's not good. OK. No warning, I'm sure. No warning.

1:04:24 And it was about this time that the Prez disappears in one of his golfing weekends at Air Force Space, apparently. But that he has, and he meets with these extraterrestrials and he signs an agreement of non interference, which was an agreement to not interfere with each other's civilizations, but they would exchange technology. OK. Now according to the Gov, the non interference didn't last long because they said that the Greys weren't keeping their agreement. I don't know if I believe that at all, because we know the government's a bunch of twats, so they could have very easily been the the A holes here.

1:05:11 But the government says that the technology wasn't that they wanted, wasn't provided, or that the level of technology that they got wasn't what they expected. Well, let's just say that if it were, if, if it was like a totally agreeable situation, we would not know anything about this. True, right? Oh, of course. Exactly. Why would if this? Why would it? We it would not be just declassified like we would have no idea about it if that were the case. That's exactly someone broke their promises and knowing historically Grays, yes, they definitely did. And they the what the way I'm reading it is that they created these underground bases for them.

1:05:51 There were 70 of actually almost 75 of them that had this whole underground. Like here. Yes, well, in. And I. Don't know where exactly, but in the United States, Yes, exactly. Talking about Underground Railroad systems and ways for them to transport. I mean, like I said, there were hundreds and thousands. DI fucking DIA, OK? We're miles away from it now. So they So the way that I read it was like the idea was that this, this they kept bringing in in AE TS over and over and over and over and over and over.

1:06:38 And the the ship would hover over the planet and then they'd have these little shuttles that would go back and forth to, you know to to get the people. Yeah. How did the ships get here? That would be the riff in space that we created with the Philadelphia and the Phoenix project. OK, intentionally. Yeah. Well, yes. OK. Yes, so the whole goal. Of the K people or the Grays or the Orion's that we're actually going to talk about the Orion's and. Oh my God. That was the in end game. Was to get that to happen. Was to get this rift, this whole. To make to make it easier to transport to the to the US or excuse me, to earth.

1:07:27 Yes, yeah. And time travel had to happen in order to make this all happen, because we had to connect a 1947 project to a 1983 project. So they had to do time this time traveling thing. Yeah, which we're going to get to in a second. Insane. My God. Insane. OK, I've got all these aliens. Like, like, honestly, like, what is their end goal? Their end game? This is the. This is the $1,000,000. Question. Yeah, exactly. I don't trust a motherfucker. That's all I can say. OK, so I'm going to try to get through this. So apparently the Earth has a these things called bio. Have you heard of biorhythms? Yes. Humans have biorhythms, apparently.

1:08:08 Well, apparently the Earth has biorhythms, 4 of them. OK. And I would have probably equate that to like summer, earth, winter, spring, I that's that's how I would equate to it. OK, very different vibes for each. Yes, exactly. And apparently even the llamas in Tibet, they all actually think the earth is a living entity, not some rock. The scientists call it right. And it's got these biorhythms, I agree, some some level of consciousness and these rhythms, these four rhythms, they peak out every 20 years on August 12th. Oh my God, we need to do something on August 12th. What the fuck is it with August 12th? I don't know.

1:08:54 It's. Just it's a day. It's a day. Yeah. Now they say it's kind of plus or minus, but that's because the gregarian calendar is completely inaccurate, which is why we add every day, every four fucking years, you know, stupid fucking calendar, right? OK, so now, in 43, with that test, we hadn't all We had no knowledge of August 12th. We didn't understand what August 12th was. We didn't know what, why, why August 12th is so important. But these orders come down from the White House that you will perform the test on August 12th. You will. There is no exception to the rule.

1:09:35 It will happen on August 12th. You will do it on August 12th. There's no, I mean make it happen. Well, clearly the Kardashians were working with the White House like we had some, like there was some kind of thing happening right here, right? Someone knew something. So who's in the White House, right? We had that Bennett guy who started this whole thing, right? We had the president. We had the K people. So now the Phoenix Project was run by a guy named President Nicholas And the Phoenix Project hardware didn't become functional until 1975 and in 77 it becomes operational and by 79 they had all the bugs worked out so it was fully operational by 1980. OK it was running up until August 12th of 1983 which it crashed due to sabotage which is a whole nother episode. Oh my God.

1:10:44 It's a whole nother episode, OK? OK. But on August 1st of 1983, something very strange happens. On August 1st of 1983, prior to that time they had they would only run this machinery or this equipment for a few hours a day and it was to build up energy with this this equipment with built up energy, which we're going to talk about in a second. On August 1st, they were told that they had to turn this on and leave it on forever. So from August 1st until August 12th of 83 when I said when it was sabotaged, it was running 24 hours a day. Wow.

1:11:35 OK. The Philadelphia's experiment, like I told you, took place in a Philadelphia shipyard. It was near this town called Red Bank. And this is where that Eldridge ship was when they ran the experiment. And the experiment was in the middle of the ship. Sorry. And they put this antenna on this ship and they put part of this equipment that was also in the Phoenix project on this ship. So that those two things. Could. Marry. Exactly. And this was all had to do with the receivers and the transmitters that Tesla was building from RCA. Remember when I was talking about those? Yes, yes, that's super sensitive. Comes into play here.

1:12:26 OK. Now, the Phoenix project, as I said, took place at the very tip of Long Island. That's where that, that park was in Montauk. OK. All right. So we got the Philadelphia experiment. In Philadelphia we got Montauk, where the prime home is OK. Right, so creepy. So real quickly, we know that the dimensions of time and space, right? We have the first, second, third dimension, then there's the 4th dimension, then there's the 5th dimension. What they say is about time, right?

1:13:08 OK, we know the 2nd and and 3rd dimension. The 4th dimension, sorry, the 4th dimension is time. And the 5th dimension, excuse me, is what they call this thing called T2 and it's represent. They when they draw it out, it's represented around this coil. So imagine this doughnut, Imagine a doughnut. OK. And the T2 is the swirl that goes around the doughnut, all right. So that represents forward and backwards time. OK, and so the idea was they were gonna create this field around the Eldridge and that was how they were gonna make it invisible.

1:13:51 I was creating this field around the Eldridge, and if you could get that 5th dimension of time around the Eldridge, then it becomes invisible. You can't see it because you can adjust how time works. Oh fuck. OK, so that's how Eldridge got sent into the hyperspace, right? People were on it. When they came back, they ended up people were like embedded in the floor and in the walls. And because we didn't know what the fuck we were doing. Didn't know what was happening exactly. So they're doing all this like experimental, like equations, etcetera, and they're not really accounting for humanity or for humans who are. Irrelevant.

1:14:33 Yeah, exactly. Are irrelevant. Yeah, exactly. So the generators on the Eldridge were creating what they called a 6th order or the 6th dimension so that they could manipulate the 5th order or what we call the T2. OK. And so that's how they're manipulating the speed of this Helix that's going around this doughnut. The doughnut, Yeah. OK, all right. So they, I actually watched a video where they were drawing, they were trying to draw this out so you could kind of physically see, see it. And they were talking about, you know, if something is 50° you can see it, if it's 60° you can't. I mean like way beyond.

1:15:16 It's like, it's like like the idea is like if we were drawing something versus like making it like in 2D versus making it like in. 3D3D Exactly, exactly. OK All right, so where? So to get the project to working in terms of shoving the Eldridge into hyperspace, they were creating this bubble or this rift. They had to do what they call this 12th order function. And I know people eyes are glazing at this point, but the, the Eldridge, the ship in the Philadelphia experience was able to go up to what they called the 6th order or the 6th dimension. OK, OK.

1:16:04 Remember when I was talking about those generators in Long Island, what they're called the parent home or that thing like that? Prime home, Prime home. Thank you. When these two things work together, they were actually able to create up to like the 12th dimension and beyond, which is they were able to actually make this all happen OK. OK. All right, so when they turn the system on on August 1st and left it on for 24 hours after that, they entered this thing that they called the Taurus of Time. And I'm not going to go into the the craziness of it. But after 5 days of this thing running continuously for 24 hours, they were able to go beyond the 12th dimension. And that's what they needed to do in order to get this all to work.

1:17:09 In 1943 and 63, when they were doing this calculations, they realized in 1963 they were going to run into a problem with time and the way that time worked and bounced back and forth. When you have, when you don't, it's kind of like electronics. When you don't resist things properly or in things properly, you get these weird behaviours. With electricity, Well, they knew the same thing was going to happen with time, and in 1963 they were. On August 12th of 1963, they were going to have this big problem by the way they were calculating things out. So in 19, early 19 and 83, when once they got up toward the 12th dimension, they had to send equipment back to 1943 so that they could get the equipment to work so that it could generate these things properly.

1:18:06 So that in 1963 we wouldn't have this weird issue. Which is why 1963 nothing happened. It was in 40. Or it was in 83. Yeah, 43 and 83. Yep. Right. Mm hmm. So they were doing this time travel and this I, this Al guy was part of that, which is why he met that dude that had already that. Had already happened again. Mind exploding? Yeah, yeah. OK, that it died in like 1957. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So I will put in the notes what he wrote about when you don't like terminate RF signals and like how it works in in our real reality and how that equates the time.

1:18:49 Because he was saying that if they didn't fix it, they would literally blow a hole in the earth like the crust of the earth, like the Crest of the Rocky Mountains, would be wiped off the face of the earth, like 700 feet deep, like it would have been like catastrophe. So can I ask? About Yeah, OK Who? Sabotaged it. Well, again, that's a whole nother. But there was a sabotage for in 1960. No in 19 to 8012. August 12th 1983 was when it was blown up. Oh OK, when it was officially blown up. And so when they got the the experiment to work, it was right after that.

1:19:30 And so that's the whole nother story. It's like, who did it? Why did they do it? Is it because they've got a whole nother? They needed that to happen in order to make another thing happen, and so now they needed to destroy it. Oh, I can. Say you could go forever if you're asking me. It happened for a reason. So what did people like die? Yes, there there were some people that died on that, which is why they say they closed the base. Wow. So this technology is, I'm skipping a lot of shit. But there's a this technology, they say is on the B1 and B2 bomber, which is why it's so stealthy. Really. So they say, yeah, who? Who can save the show? Stop secret shit, right? And it's probably not on every single one.

1:20:10 It's only on specific ones, right? Right. Yeah, so according to our owl friend, there is a new phoenix in a different location that is working. The ETS got what they want. Everyone's kind of gotten what they want. And as I mentioned before, you know, people were saying like, why do they need us? And it's again because A, they've got this rift in space now where they can travel, there's time travel available, and now we have access to both.

1:20:53 They have access to our hardware and our warm bodies. So what the fuck did we get in return? Right. Well, so this is what isn't ever very clear. And so the question, so you go, is it clear? Because they don't want us to know, like does the government not want us to know what we get out of the deal. But initially the idea was we could time travel, like that's what they wanted to create. That's why we they say we wanted to create. This was because now we can make things invisible and we could time travel and in war, what could be more valuable than being invisible or travelling forward and backward in time?

1:21:40 It's just like, I guess I've heard about this in the like, from the past. Like Eisenhower made a deal. Yeah, with aliens that they could like, do experiments on our. You've heard this before. Yes, yeah. Yeah. In exchange for technology. And so like basically Eisenhower like sold that American people out. And so, so, like, you hear and then you hear about all these people who have like, and he's like, yeah, yeah, you can do these things, but, like, make sure they don't remember. And you have people who have had, like, alien abduction stories and they're like, I didn't realize this until I had like, I was hypnotized and I, like, had these, like, awful memories. And it wasn't totally, like, it wasn't totally forgotten. But that's.

1:22:32 Exactly. Yeah. So I've got probably another 7 pages, the. Talks. About how they've calculated time, how they figured out how to do the equipment, like there is so much information. What do you I guess like my question is like what do you think happened? Do you think that like the American people are sold out for technology? Are we? No, I. Do I? Do I? Do I think the human race was kind of sold out like for the amount of power and I don't mean power like in but I mean like control and that you could get out of sacrificing a few warm bodies.

1:23:27 Yeah. I totally think that that was an acceptable thing and it could have been that some things got maybe so got so out of control or maybe that the people or the whatever, the Orion's, which I didn't even talk about the Orion's by the way, right, were doing that maybe the presidents and then we're going like wait maybe we got ourselves in too deep. I mean, that could have also been a thing too. The the problem is like we were trying to win a war and you had people who are making decisions based out of desperate. Reactive. Yes, reactive because they're desperate, like they they needed to win. How can we win this?

1:24:07 And then you have someone who comes in as like a white knight and in reality it's very much not the case, like they're trying to take advantage of someone. And that 100% does not surprise me at all. So part of me was going to put this into two episodes, and I probably should. Have I think. I think we could probably do another episode of this. But and I I apologize for so long but it's it's I will just say I will make sure that I put links into our document that actually she can watch Al talk about this and he did it he did a a press that that Mon the Montauk interview you can watch him and you're he's so convincing it's so he's not reading anything he is talking off the cuff.

1:24:58 Maybe we do do a follow up for this like in the new year perhaps we talk about that cause because one of the the first episodes for the new year that we're going to be talking about is like the things that were disclosed in 2023. And I think that it would be a good segue there you. Go. Because I think that there's more to discuss here. There's so many questions. So many. Don't have like we don't. We're never going to have the answers to, but I think like potentially having like a more of an understanding of would be super useful and I promise like we will have some like really fun like light topics. Too, I know this was. David yeah. Yeah.

1:25:38 I think this one and I think the last one was too like I think both of them were a little bit heavier but but like look that's what that these are like where the bizarre places are like we can't we don't know the answers and like the these black budgets are like they're huge. We have no idea how much money is going towards them. That's right. And these black budgets? That's right. On your previous episode, you said like a like a third third of our budget, yes. But when we start talking about this kind of stuff that we don't even know about. Right. There's no fucking way, yeah. You have to. You have to one.

1:26:19 You have to pay people well enough to keep secrets. Yes, yes, Yep. And you have to pay them well. And it's not just like two players. It's multiple players. Yeah. And I'll be honest, do we? Do we all have bills to pay? Yes, all of us have bills to pay. We all have a price. Like, would we? Yeah, every single one of us. But there's a price that you have to pay for it. And those black budgets, we don't really know how much is involved. But this was involved. Yeah. And what's involved? Like, I feel like I after both of these episodes, like like the episode we did before and then this episode, like, I feel like I have more questions than I have answers. I know.

1:27:02 Yeah, I would agree. I would. Because they get real. What's the word I'm looking for? It's like not deep, but just in the weeds. Yeah, yeah. Things that we people just don't talk about. Everything. Well, you talk about like Bob Lazar, Element 115, you know, J Rod, like you talk about all these like folks and they're like, no, we've been talking about this since the 1980s and nobody believed us. Now we found element 115. We found like and like. And now the government's releasing. Information. Yeah, yeah. Like they're admitting the aliens are a real thing and nobody's paying attention. No, that's a whole nother thing that sends me over.

1:27:45 The Edge Friends, this episode we are releasing in two days before Christmas. The next episode we will be releasing has to do with Disclosure in 2023 and what's happened before. So please tune into that and let us know like what your thoughts are, because there's a lot has that has been disclosed that people are not paying attention to and I think it's our responsibility to know what the fuck is going on and to kind of put it out there, I agreed. Yeah, I agreed. Whether they listen to this or not. Or not. Who cares? Like we're we're doing our duty like as a part of humanity. Because anyone who's listening to this right now by and large, hopefully.

1:28:25 Oh fuck. I don't want to think about like non humans listening to it. She's like, I'm getting like, oh you want aliens listen to it. No, you don't know I'm alive like I am nothing. I'm a speck of dust. I'm nothing thing to you don't know about me. I don't have organs you can fucking harvest. But also, I think that it's really important for us to know what's going on not only within our world, but also potentially with outside of it, and not to just turn a blind eye. Anyway, yes, that was a great episode. Thanks. I know. Sorry it was super deep and long. I. Think that we could like do a Part 2 on that. OK, yeah, yeah, my my eyes are glazing myself. So yeah.

1:29:09 So everyone, go to have a cocktail, take a breath and listen to our next episode, which will be way. Easier later. OK, great. Thanks so much for. Thank you. See you guys. Bye