The Verse's; Parallel, Alternate & Multi

0:01 Hello bizarre story friends. You've tuned into the Bizarre AF, a place where we talk about the strange, the absurd, the unknown, and all things bizarre AF. I'm Kevin, I'm going to be your host for today's episode. And as always, we ask that you keep an open mind. Keep a skeptical ear, but keep listening to the facts as we take you on our newest journey. The verses parallel alternate and MULTI None.

0:58 Hello our bizarre story friends and please welcome my Co host S with the most S Alicia. Hi, girl. Hey, what's going on? Do we look comfy? Today we're so comfy. Like, like we, you know, had a sleepover kind of. It was kind of like if we stayed up really late and then like woke up and thought, you know what? We first need to record something and then just kind of that's like what happened. That's what we look like. You know what's funny? No alcohol was involved in this decision. That's so true. It is absolutely true. And I would. I would never, I would never guess that. Honestly, I would never guess it. But it is the God's honest truth. It's true.

1:46 It's true. Hey, so I'm certain you've heard of the the multiverse. Well, you're like sci-fi person. I am such a sci-fi you hear that term I I'm a I'm a huge Star Trek and like in the new iterations and the new iterations of Star Trek like for instance strange new worlds and and actually Discovery which was the new anyways I could really I could really go on a. To have like a Star Trek podcast. But that's that's what they talk about. That's how they kind of draw and recreate a lot of these characters is saying, Oh yeah, yeah, I remember everything you knew.

2:27 No, this is a different universe which comes out. Comic books do the same thing, don't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So we're gonna talk about that and we're gonna try to or I'm gonna try to talk articulate. I can't even say the word what the difference is between a parallel universe, an alternate universe, and a multiverse. Oh, I love it, 'cause I love really know you just hear them all. You just don't necessarily know what it means. Yeah, well, like talking to you right now, I'm, I think I thought they were all very similar. Sure, exactly. Like, 'cause they're verses, they're all universes, exactly.

3:07 Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I have different. They have different kind of meanings. Well, and it has such a huge. A huge connotation in the world that we live in today, which makes it really freaking weird and bizarre, right? The potential for other outcomes Well, what if I told you, you and I have had this conversation before. OK, honestly we were talking about this last night, but I I get deja vu a lot. And you and I both had deja vu within like an hour of each other, right? It's true. I wonder if that connected somehow. Well, I don't know. Like if you told me. Hey, Alicia, we've had this conversation before. I'd be like if I've had it with you.

3:49 I believe it because I get deja vu with you a lot. Well, in our other the time we had this before, you didn't mention deja vu. In multiverses? Oh yeah, you mean the conversation other the conversation we had? Yeah. In fact, in the other one you were saying, you said like, you were like we were talking about it, and then you're like you weren't believing it. And then I finally made you believe it. And then they said, well, how am I? How are you gonna make me believe we had this conversation the next time we have the conversation? What is the code word that's good? You didn't say that last time. So I guess what I'm driving at is that imagine where there's a universe where everything is exactly like ours, and on this copy of Earth lives other versions of you, and they're living entirely different lives, making the exact opposite decisions that you've made or make in this world, in the universe. Imagine a world where the Nazis won World War One, or where 911 never happened because different decisions were made. That is all very feasibly possible. When you start accepting what we're gonna talk about in a minute, that of the no things we don't know. Oh gosh.

5:17 This is gonna be like one of those episodes where you're like, OK, let me re listen to this because yeah, you are. Yeah. If you're interested. Yeah. And I would encourage you to listen because it again just helps you keeping your mind open. Yeah. OK, so there are a lot of smart people in this world who think parallel universes are real. Now obviously there are very smart people who also think that they aren't real, so but they suck and I don't care, OK? We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that. So author and physicist Michu Kaku. CA or Kaku certain.

5:58 Yeah, there's parallel universes. Max Tegmart MIT certain. Professor Alan Gundt MIT certain Anthony Aguire, UCLA professor Lawrence Krauss. ACUI mean there are people that are string theorists and you know, the Sheldons of the world that are confident that this is real. Why wouldn't it be real? Well, that's exactly exactly when you when you when you know the things that they know. That's the that's the question. Why wouldn't it be real? Well, and that's the thing, like they're sitting there saying, yeah, no, duh, of course we think that this, this is actually the truth.

6:41 But I guess like the onus or, you know, the scientific proof is to try to prove, to prove what it is that you believe. So how do you prove that in the world that we live in the challenge, this is the challenge. Right, which makes sense as to why people don't believe. Yeah, exactly like proof is in the pudding. Show me proof. True. Show me evidence. True. OK, so to really kind of get into this, we need to understand the terms that we're gonna be talking about today. And that's multiverse, alternate universe, alternate dimensions. It's another thing. And parallel universes.

7:22 And so then you go, well, are they just synonyms of each other Are they totally different thing? Like like really what they are? OK, so I'm gonna need it's kind of when we were talking about element 51 and stuff. I think I need you guys to hang on for a hot minute and just listen, hear me out because it gets really nerdy and geeky and like, I don't claim to know it, but I kind of. I know enough to talk about it, but it kind of helps put things in perspective into perspective. OK, OK, so just try to follow along and I'm going to try to go slow. So we have a minute to digest this nerdisms. OK, so we're going to start this discussion by talking about what is called the observable universe.

8:09 OK, now the observable universe. That is the region of space that humans can actually or theoretically observe with the aid of some what have to be technology. Sure, some form of fashion. OK, so period, we know what an observable universe is. Now this is different than the entirety of the universe, which is all the entire cosmic system of matter and like. Everything of everything very. That's different, OK? Cosmic space, to the best of our knowledge, is infinite. Meaning you don't go and then hit a wall, right? Or go and hit some edge or some theorize that it's a big loop, like you keep going, you'll eventually come back to the same place.

9:08 Other people say no, it's just it's infinite, like it's forever. Forever spreading. Just forever. And yes, and universes are growing and expanding. Yes. There is no end end, and just just that. That alone is enough to make your mind explode like we're talking infinite people. Like infinite. Like infinite. Kevin, I don't. Get this. I do not understand. You can sit here and talk. Talk to you about Infinity and like what that means. You can't. You can't in your three-dimensional time linear mind grasp. I have. I have no. I have zero grasp of it. I know. So we also need to understand how the observable universe is calculated.

9:53 OK 'cause remember it can be theoretical too. The observable space can also be theoretical. So observable universe is what is considered to be about 93 billion light years in diameter. Wow. OK, so how do we get that number? So a light year is the distance that light can travel in a year, and that equals about 5.88 trillion miles. OK, And by the way, I'm just throw this out there. Nothing or no one can travel faster than the speed of light. If you were and you start reading about that, then that now you're actually starting to talk about traveling back in time and time actually slows down.

10:38 It gets OK, like your main your main's gonna start to short circuit, right? So you can't like try to think about it too much, OK. And so the estimated age of the universe since The Big Bang, they say, is about 13.8 billion years ago. Right. OK. So that would mean the observable universe is 13.8 billion light years in any direction from Earth. That makes kind of sense, right? Therefore, about 27.6 billion light years in diameter. That's what that would mean. OK. But a minute ago I said 93 billion. Right. So the thing they call Hubble's law says that like you just said a minute ago, that space is expanding since The Big Bang and therefore the observable universe I was talking about a minute ago continues to expand as well. OK, so they calculated that this expansion that objects that emitted light about 13.8 billion years ago, which is The Big Bang.

11:47 Yep, are now even further away from Earth than they were before. They think about 46 billion light years away. Therefore, that means the observable universe is more than 46 billion light years in any direction from Earth, which gives us 93 billion light years in diameter. And that's a guess, right? That's an estimation. An estimation, yes. We're not for sure. We're like, it's at least this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, so we're gonna consider 93 billion light years in diameter from us is our observable universe. Keeping in mind infinite? We've we're This is like a drop in the bucket of Infinity.

12:27 Right, right. That number sounds massive to me. Well, again, you just like you have nothing to compare. No, no. Yeah. Uh huh. OK, but. It's a speck. It's a speck. It's a grain of sand, yes. On the beach scheme of things, K so that let that sink in for a second. That's just what we consider our observable universe, and we can't even see all of that. Right, right, right, right. We can't see all of it. OK, so if space is infinite, but the universe can only be as big as what was generated from the beginning of space and time, IE The Big Bang. That makes our universe only one of an infinite number of universes, hence the multiverse.

13:20 That's where multiverses come from. We are one of an infinite number of universes. You know what we are? We're monkeys on a fucking rock right now. Yeah, we are. We are amoeba on a bacteria on a cell. So insignificant. So dumb. Dumb. Like that all of this is like so massive that I feel to say insignificant is not. Enough of a word for the feeling that I feel and like when you start, yeah, when you start thinking about it in perspective, that's when you start thinking like, what the like? I'm a monkey.

14:09 I'm nothing. I'm a monkey at at best, At best, I'm an asshole monkey. That's the very best. And really, I'm an amoeba and you can't and you and obviously you just can't think like. That because. No, because that stuff is irrelevant to you. Yeah, I'm. Just saying like when you think about it, that's exactly. Trying to grasp the enormity of it and like where you fit in the world like it's. Just it's overwhelming. It it's it's it's so past overwhelming. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. I'm. Just. I'm just sitting back here sipping up my water. Golly, OK, so many times. So we we talk about the many, the multiverse. So now we understand what a multiverse is, right? So in simple terms, the multiverse is 93 billion light years of space that we call the universe, plus an infinite number of cosmic systems of matter and energy that exists even outside of our hypothetical and visual space. And so many times those referred to as parallel universes because they are identical versions of our universe that are happening at the same time.

15:27 OK, OK, yes, We're just trying to grasp terms at this point as best we can. So a parallel universe, which can also be an alternate universe, especially if it's mirroring ours. And those all exist in the multiverse. Right. So that's how all the terms kind of connect and parallel universe and alternate universe can kind of or those two can be synonymous. OK. Yeah. OK. That's yeah, I was, I was kind of thinking that.

16:08 So now there are actually four types of parallel universes. OK, OK. And remember, parallel universes are the other universes in infinite space outside of our 93 billion in diameter universe. Yeah, they they coincide with our universe, right? Yeah. One type exists in the exact same space and time that we are in, but it's so far away we can't see it or reach it. That's one type of a parallel universe. Clones of ours, infinite number. Another scenario, multiple universes exist in what we can only what they call like imagine giant soap bubbles. OK, a just a drift in an endless sea. And there's all these soap bubbles. Yeah.

17:07 OK, that's another. That's a pair. They would. That's a type of parallel universe. So what? Like they can, they can. They're floating in an endless sea. Maybe they can eventually touch. Yeah, they'll, they'll, yeah. Or they're like moving within, or they're at the same separates them as dark. Maybe that's what dark matter is. Is the thing 'cause they don't necessarily. They just call dark matter a a thing. They don't really know what. That is, has to be something. Yeah, has to be something. Another option is that they exist in the same space and time as ours, and because they are in different dimensions, they're invisible. This is where alternate dimensions come into play. So there could we have our universe, but there's another universe that exists right here, right now, but it's in a different dimension, time and space, so we're we can't see each other. It's like you and I are having potentially this exact podcast right now.

18:06 Yes, but we're talking about boogers. It's right or or we're talking about the same exact thing. And you know whatever the case may be, it's it could be like just about anything. I think that when it comes to like this, the whole like question of the whole the same time and space or like that multiverse, a question I always have is what is it that we are experiencing? When it comes to things like, you know, you'll hear phantom noises in your house, or you'll hear like, we're still in the same physical like house, right? But like you have 2D and 2D2D might be different from, you know, from 3D, right?

18:54 Like you when we went from cartoons to like 3D animation like Toy Stories. It looks more alive and more real, so like you can. There's a difference there, right? But they don't. Like live in the same. I encourage you to watch a search. So search for that exact kind of question on YouTube and you'll see. There's this guy, maybe I can find it and put it in the descriptions. He talks about the 4th dimension, 5th dimension, and he did. He illustrates what those represent, but just exactly how we're talking about. Like here's a piece of paper that's two dimension, now imagine 3 dimension, It's a actual ball. And then he starts talking about fourth and 5th dimension and you're like, that's when your minus is go fuck. Yeah.

19:35 They're like, it's like a tetrahedron like on top of this and you're like, I don't know what that shape is exactly, but why would we be able to? Because we can't. It's not something that we can typically very easily observe, and which makes sense in the 4th parallel universe. All bets are off. It's all the laws of physics are out the window. Everything looks and behaves completely different, like we can't even grasp it because again our little time linear minds just couldn't. It wouldn't make any sense. OK, OK, that's the that's the other type of of of parallel universe.

20:19 Now interesting string theory in quantum physics. That's where this is. All this is where this topic is discussed. They're starting to present clues that alternate universes actually exist. Yes, you like this is what? Like yeah, like you so think sorry. It's kind of like when they the whole UAP thing that started happening and we all knew the shit was real and then the the government's finally like OK fine, it's real. I'm not saying that's what this is, but it's kind of like that level of like what?

21:04 I yeah, they're like this is just all in theory and you're like, OK theory, whatever. I can just think about this as an idea. But now people like the Higgs boson like or Higgs boson the Collider. The Collider, they found the God particle and like they're the way that they. That things are behaving in this Collider does not match what we know about physics and the way atoms at their base level react, which is is what you're talking about right now. They're proving it in real time currently that this is for real this.

21:49 Alternate multiverse parallel universes. Whatever the fuck. You want something to it, We're not just making it up. No, no, no. Because now Poindexter's actually have some real proof because they're like, Nope, doesn't exist. We can't see it doesn't happen. You're like, no, no, There actually is something to this, although they will find a way to still deny it, you know, even when there's poof staring in the face. Of course. You become such a critic and you become so, like, turned off, like, you know, all the answers. That's the thing about, I mean, just hearing this. Like I was saying, I'm a fucking monkey on a goddamn rock. Like I have no idea. And I I underst. I have a a tiny understanding that I have no idea. There are people who walk around thinking that they know how this fucking universe, how this world, how how life works Do You have no idea?

22:39 No idea. No idea. Yeah, because we're so smart. We know everything. Yeah, Poindexter's like, oh, they're fucking professors. Well, not some of the professors MIT that way, but like, but but how do you get there? You're like, Oh yeah, no, I'm smart. I know everything. Like, no, motherfucker, you don't know anything, right? You know nothing. Open your mind. Yeah. So in May of 2020, when the world was just about ready to be put in, consult solitary confinement. Yeah, NASA scientists who were kind of in their own sort of prison in Antarctica. And actually reading further, I think this was actually before 2020. I think it was released in 2020, this information, I think it was like a couple of years later earlier. But regardless, irregardless, regardless of the time, NASA said they made a quite shocking surprise shocking discovery with cosmic ray detection experiment conducted in and and several of these national scientists found particles that might be actually outside of our own universe.

23:55 Oopsie. Right. Oh hey, we found something, and it has. None of the characteristics that we know lie in our in our own universe. We have zero clue where it came from like, right. And based on what they have, they're like it can kind of only mean one thing. OK, so let we'll talk about it. Let's talk about what they did, what they found. So this group of experts was working with NASA's, what they call Anita device, Anita. It's an Anita Anita device and I guess it stands for Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna and this instrument detects ultra high energy cosmic ray neutrinos.

24:46 That's its purpose and please do not ask me what those are because. They're cosmic ray neutrinos. Duh. We all know what that is. Thank you. Now these high energy particles are a million more, a million times more powerful than anything that can be created on Earth. And these neutrons have become really interesting to scientists and astrophysicists because they are the only ones that can reach Earth unaffected or unweakened from their original source. So by the time they get here, they're like what they were when they started, whatever that is, and that's why they're so interested in them. Right.

25:34 Because it gives them. They don't have to kind of calculate for oh, well, they travelled a billion years and it's this and it so must have been this. And no, they don't have to do that because they say it's like it is what it is when it was OK, OK. How do they know that? I don't know. Because they're smart. They're. Smart. But like, honestly? How do they know that? I don't 'cause they're smart. We wouldn't understand it if they told us. How they know it anyway. It doesn't. Matter. It's just a question. So they use this giant balloon and they haul this device way up above in Antarctica and they take this Anita and they with this balloon put it up in the air and they do that there because the air is so cold and dry that it is provides the best conditions 'cause there's like little to no radio interference up there, right? No, all the shit that's going on in our air down here, right. There's not interference or stuff. Yeah, it doesn't happen up there. So that's the perfect place to do these kinds of experiments. And so the so apparently low energy neutrinos can pass by our planet like, with no problem.

26:55 Like, 'cause they they don't interact with anything, so they can go right through our planet, right? OK. And so high energy particles, though they'll be stopped by our planet by by solid matter, solid matter will stop them. And so This is why they say high energy particles from these neutrons, they're always detected coming down from space, because right, Like if you're on Antarctica and you detect it, it, it means it was coming like down, right? It wasn't coming up 'cause it can't get through the Earth. Right. OK. OK. That makes follow. OK, so only the low energy neutron neutrinos can they detect.

27:38 OK, OK so here where it gets a little interesting. This Anita device one day detects an ultra high neutrino coming up from the earth, not down. So this neutrino, like I said, it can't pass through earth, yet they detected it from this direction. Now for us who don't know anything, we would just be like, OK, what does that mean? Like what does that mean?

28:19 But to them that means that these particles are traveling back in time, which is clear evidence to them that it is another universe. Now I can't articulate like how how I could make us all understand that, but you have to I guess just have some faith and trust in them that when they know enough that they say when in high neutrino particle it comes up like that is proof of some weirdness that we don't like, we that we can't comprehend OK time travel alternate universes. So they try to explain this event away by saying, Oh, well, that particle changed into a different type before it passed through the Earth and then back again, which is the only way it could have happened.

29:18 And then people are like, OK, fine, so that's it's an extremely rare occurrence. So maybe so. But this has happened several times. It's not like some flukyty fluke, no. So they say the most, the simplest and the most scientific elegant explanation is linked to the parallel universe. Where The Big Bang happened 2 universes were formed. But in the other universe time runs backwards. So Big Bang created these two universes again.

30:01 Because same time in space at a different dimension, we can't really see it, but because a probably yin and Yang of the sure it is the opposite, running backwards, things are running backwards, hence how this particle came up. Yes. So for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. So I guess that's kind of in our physics, yes. Yeah. In our physics, that's I guess that's kind of where they're coming from, is that or think of a mirror, like if I if I point at a mirror I'm pointing left, but in the mirror I'm pointing right. Right. Yes. Yeah, right. So when The Big Bang happened, you have one universe that moves forward in time and then one that moves back in time.

30:47 Exactly. So now we can't, like we can't understand that again, because we just live in this linear forward movement time. There's a bass. There's a present and a future. But think Benjamin Button. Right. Yes. Like, what if, like, that was the that was it. Like, everything runs backwards. Like, what if you throw something, but you're really not throwing something, You're like catching it. Like, imagine if your whole life was just AVCR tape running backwards. Like, we can't. Again, I can't comprehend it, but they might think that's normal. I well, I was just thinking, that's normal. Yeah. I was just thinking like what if what we're doing currently is actually backwards?

31:31 Like, you can't. What if this is what if, what if? Yeah, what? We're what? We're actually experiencing life. Well, it would be to them totally backwards. Like they can't even comprehend like it goes that direct. Like what? Why would you not? And maybe when they talk, it's like rip this midnight. Oh my God, that is like my worst nightmares. You wake up and nobody's speaking the same language as you. Like what the fuck? How do I not get people to think I'm crazy? So these results either came from a really bad error from this device, or they've finally proven the existence of a parallel universe.

32:18 And, well, and here's the thing, right? Like I we're sitting here talking about it, and I think that, OK, conspiracy theory hat on. OK, so it's convenient that this information came out, was published right in 2020. It was published in 2020, when the whole fucking world was focused on something else. Yeah, like. It's not like, oh, this is May, May of 2020 and we went into lockdown in like March. Yeah, yeah. So like a few months, couple months after that when no one was thinking about anything other than how they're getting locked up in their house.

33:00 Yeah, and how they, like, want to do everything and just, Oh my God, we all have drinking problems now, 'cause we can't cope with shit, right? Right. But. It's convenient. I think it's very interesting that comes out at this time. They had the information, they made this discovery. Of course it has to be peer, peer reviewed. But it's like, I do think that the timing's interesting with that. And I've thought the timing with a lot of this UAP and like UFO stuff is interesting because I think that if you weren't to like like if if people knew the government saying things like, yeah, I don't know. We think there's like life or something that we don't know about and we don't. We don't understand.

33:43 And there are, UF OS are real. Aliens could very well be real. We can't. Like, we're not going to say that they're real yet, but we're saying maybe it was released right before fucking. It was like in December, right before Christmas that they released these things. So don't you think I'm sorry that Senate, and I've said this on my tiktok before, that Senate hearing was a bombshell, but it got so. And I blame the media too, for whatever reason. I don't know why whatever it got so not swept under the rug, but so like. OK, agreed. Totally agreed.

34:25 And we will be covering at the end of 2023, we will be covering. Everything that had happened for the year and all of the those Senate hearings, we'll be covering those a little bit heavier going into depth with that. So just to know, but I think that we are so distracted. I mean, look at our phones like we have phones right now that you can find anything you can I scroll and fucking TikTok for. My phone will tell me you've been on this for too long, and then I feel like shit about myself. But there's a million ways to get distracted. And you walk down the street, you see people, they're just looking at their phones and they're not even, like, paying attention to what's around them.

35:14 So of course, something like that, people are overwhelmed. People you know are up against it financially. You know we are. Just trying to figure out shit. And of course like nobody's going to be paying attention because none of the all of the news, like corporations, they're all owned by the same people. It's all coming out. The same information is coming out over all of these platforms and it's not covering a lot of this information, which people are are are starting to pay attention to the fact they don't trust motherfuckers. So it's like you can go one of two ways. I don't trust anything. You know, the government whatever is like it's not a conspiracy theory to think that like it's trying to protect itself, right. It doesn't care about me as an individual. But you can sit for and say I am going to pay attention and try to find this information for myself or fuck it like the world's just burning.

36:12 I'm just gonna I'm gonna go out in a blaze with it. You know, there's there's two different ways to react to the information, and. I think, I do think that the timing's convenient. I do think it's very interesting and I wonder what else they have that they're not saying? Sure. Well, of course. Because they what you're saying right now, the idea of a parallel universe existing or coinciding at the same time that we're currently in would explain things like. Those sounds deja vu. 'S deja vu. Those sounds which I had another occurrence of deja vu while we were talking about, like talking about this episode. Yeah, wow. Which was interesting but like having these these thoughts. It it would make sense to me that ghost like ghostly like sightings or you know like because ghostly sightings could it have been in the past technically. Well yeah.

37:13 But what if what if that past like the 1800s is actually coinciding at the exact same time. Like we're in a loop of of experience that we never really. Experience death. We just experienced the same life over and over again or whatever the case is. But like also the person who owned this house before or this, you know, was in the studio. Maybe someone currently right now is hearing us talking, but they can't discern what the what the people are saying. And you hear that I've heard disembodied like voices. I've I've like, I've heard a door slam or whatever in a house and you're like, what the fuck? I woke up one time. I was in a old house. I woke up outside like in the middle of a dream, and I woke up and it sounded like it was coming from the corner of my my room, bedroom. Dave was sleeping next to me.

38:06 No one else was in the house. We had cats, but like the cats, you know, they're not. They don't speak. Your cats don't speak. Not yet. Yeah. Eventually I'll probably talk about cats. Yeah, they'll fucking hate. They'll be like bitch. Well, I have some shit to tell talk to you about. So I woke up in the middle of the night in the corner of my room. I heard. What did I tell you? Stand up straight. You did? And it was like a man's voice, yes, it was a man's voice that was like, really stern and like, like very like brash, like. What did I tell you? Stand up straight like and from my I don't know what I thought I could like almost envision like someone like chastising a child in the corner.

38:53 And I, the dream that I had, I had dream all the time, had nothing to do with something in the corner. But what if that was something that was happening? At that time in the alternate universe. In the alternate universe that in that same house like like the physical is just it's. Existing coinciding, but we're just on different radio frequencies maybe? Makes sense to me. Yeah, like, it's all in the same radio. We're listening to a radio station. You turn the dial and you get a different station, but it's still coming out of the same speakers. The music is wow. See. That's so fascinating.

39:35 It makes sense to me. It does to me too. It does to me. Too it would explain a lot of these, like ghostly. I think it does too. I think it does explain that. So one of the scientists said, you know, they they kind of said it simply and they said look, either we we're left with either the most exciting possibility or the most boring. Yeah. It's it's either the most exciting thing or it's the dumbest, most boring thing, another scientist said. Well, you know, while parallel universes sound exciting and sexy when discussing that equipment signal, alternative ideas are still on the table. And it doesn't doesn't mean the idea's wrong, but the weight of the evidence is currently against it in his opinion. Now again, just like an asshole, everyone has one opinion. Yes.

40:29 And I'm not saying that his is wrong because I want it to be wrong. I'm just saying that and we have to have debate. Let me say the other thing, we have to be able to debate it. That's how we hopefully when people keeping open mind that's how you make progress. But if people just are shutting shit down because they just don't. It's just they don't want it to be true. But a lot of times it's because of religion. They don't want things to accept things like that. Or their own personal like science sign like scientists have their own personal religion which is that scientific method and it's like God forbid.

41:16 God forbid you don't understand or like. You have a very stilted view of what the world is. Some scientists won't even speculate because. If there is no proof, there is no proof that it it is, then that is not true. Right. Yeah. Which is I I don't know. Like we need all all different types of people in this world. That's exactly what it is boils down to. But also fuck like so close minded. Exactly, exactly. And a lot of reports that regurgitate this theory too, by the way, it just, it skews it. Can it just, I mean that I don't know what the solution is, but it just skews people's view of science, which is already on shaky ground thanks to misinformation like, oh, I don't know, climate change and the coronavirus and all of that.

42:08 They're like science Shmaians. Yeah, I mean, I guess you have to have extreme like scientists who are like, no, this is the way it is because like, they are the ones who like keep things going. But yeah, I mean what interesting times we left it is it is. It is. OK. So I wanted to just not close off, but yeah, almost close off. It's gonna take us a minute, but I wanted to dive deeper into those four types of parallel universes and alter unit universes that we're. Talking about Yeah, yeah, I just wanna talk about each one of those levels, just a little I. Had questions. I was wondering, Yeah, perfect. OK, so level 1, the level one, Yeah.

42:53 So the idea of the level one parallel universe says that space is so big that the rules of probabilities imply that somewhere out that somewhere out there are other planets exactly like Earth. Let's think about that for a second. The the odds of probability is true, but it's infinite. Yeah, it would. Infinite. Like if if it were like it would. That's weird if it's not. And by the way, if you think we're the only human beings in the universe, that's another reason to go.

43:35 Are you insane? Like we the only living things in the in the in the universe. No. Stop. Yeah, stop with yourself. What what's so funny is like, you know Dave, he is, we'll talk about this all the time. I'm like, well, of course, of course there's like, like there there there's only the ability to. Like, there has to be intelligent life forms. He used to say, no, no, no, there's no such thing as intelligent life forms. Like, we're the only thing. And then he's like, maybe there's like some some life. I'm like, OK, define life. I'm not talking about a fucking Ant. I'm talking about intelligent life. You know what I mean? Like, like, I'm talking about something that can. He's like, OK, maybe.

44:18 So he's starting to change his views. And now, now it's like, I'm like, OK, intelligent. Yeah. But there's no way they'd be able to travel because we'd see them already. I'm like, fuck no. No, of course they wouldn't. We wouldn't be able to see that, especially since they're based on our discussion right now. Right. Yeah. Like if it's currently in the same space, yeah, you wouldn't be able to see them. But then if they are so well advanced, there are Star Trek Live Long and prosper. Like there are protocol calls that you probably have to adhere by now if the in in. If the universe is infinite and they're infinite, you know, are there are there life forms that don't adhere to those protocols?

45:01 Sure, sure, sure, There. But like, but you can't get there. This is the problem. They can't get out of you. It's so big and infinite. You, those, those beings in those universes can't get out of those universes. It's just. Or they can. And we've experienced it, maybe. But remember are we going to so big even? Are you even our observable universe? Remember that's that's huge. So I mean those people, yes to what you're saying, those beings very well. I know they have. I'm just gonna say that I know they've been here. But I'm just, I'm talking about those universes, parallel universes.

45:48 And like, what about all those people? What about all those beings? I mean, like, fuck, OK, never mind. I'm just coming to tangent. All right, OK And again we don't see those other universes because our vision is limited by the speed of light. That is the ultimate speed limit, the speed of light. Light can started traveling the moment The Big Bang occurred 14 billion years ago. And so we can't see any further than 14 billion years ago. And that that volume of space is what's called the Hubble volume. I talked about that a little bit earlier. The Hubble theory or whatever, that's what that is. It represents our observable universe. And so this level one parallel universe, it has two assumptions.

46:37 One, that the universe is infinite. Uh, huh. And that with any infinite universe, every single possible configuration of particles in a Hubble volume takes place multiple times. Do you have a little brain aneurysm? Yes, I yes, You're like no, yes, no, yes. Maybe. OK. And then Level 2, oh wait, did you have any, do we have any questions? We probably get to get what level one is, that's. Yeah, that's pretty pretty self-explanatory. Yeah, I kinda get that one. OK, level 2. The soap bubbles is if you if yes in level 2 regions of space are continuing to undergo inflation and this is inflation phase like like we were talking about these bubbles. And blown up, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And because of the continuing inflationary, what is the word I'm looking for phase in these universes? The space between US and the other universes is literally expanding faster than light.

47:48 OK, so it's never reachable, right? You can't. We can't ever, possibly ever reach it. And that makes sense. I'm just sitting here like thinking, OK, a bubble being inflated. It just starts growing and growing and growing and growing And as it's growing, let's say you have like a. Like a dot or or in. In this case, we have a tiny. What is this? What did you just do? What is that it was? Very inappropriate, and it was not intentional at all. Let's say in the center of the dots. Of the dot and the center of the dot is like a little bit of dye, OK. And in a soap, like in. Oh yeah, yeah. So it starts spreading, right.

48:30 So like as the bubble is growing that dot is, you can see the space getting bigger and bigger and the paint or like the colors getting lighter and lighter. So of course you wouldn't be able to, and especially if it's traveling at the ultimate speed limit speed of light. Yes, I'm never. I'm never. There's Yeah, it's it's too. Unless, right? Unless you can learn how to manipulate, I guess time and space. And space, yeah. So unless you can find out a way to be outside of that or exist, which yeah, to your point is outside of our realm of knowledge and possibility, it might be completely feasible in another universe.

49:14 Like, yeah, we 'cause we don't 'cause they don't operate on linear time. Right, but also. OK, where's my tinfoil hat? We need to just have tinfoil hats. And I can just put it on, but my here's my tinfoil hat thing. Maybe, maybe we know how to manipulate it currently and like, whomever has the power is like, oh, you know, suppressing it. Suppressing it. Or like, people can't handle it right now. If people knew that we could do this, like currently, you know humanity is not in a place where we. Are united enough? Like we're still warring with each other, let alone trying to like, Oh my God, right. Like if it's some other civilization. Need some other civilization, or even just know that in our current civilization we could go back in time or move forward into Jesus?

50:01 It would be you. It would be devastating. It would be used as a weapon, right? Like it would be monetized. In a way that like, would probably devastate it. Yeah, you're right. We couldn't do that. It it's just we're just not there yet. Like if everyone was like hey we're all one. We've done mushrooms a couple of time yeah start trekking. We we do mushrooms. Like we all know that we exist and we breathe the same air and like like a hippie, dippie like world. Potentially we could start talking about it, but like I. It would not surprise me. I would, my mind would be blown. But like, I'd be like, yeah, figures. Like, I totally believe that we have this technology or we know how to manipulate. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either. You're right, they did.

50:44 They did find out that they could manipulate time and space and fucking the the Collider. Oh, and the Collider? Yeah, yeah. Anything else? We have no idea. OK, Level 3 universe is a consequence of what they call Mini World's Interpretation MWIM. W I, uh, huh. It's from quantum physics, which means you've heard of it. You've heard of MWI before you? Know. Yes, of course I yes. In which every single quantum possibility inherent in the quantum wave function becomes a real possibility in some reality.

51:33 So when people in the sci-fi world, sci-fi fans, think of parallel universes, they're thinking of a Level 3 universe and a Loki. Ever watch Loki? No. So Loki is a a DC, not DC What's the other one Marvel. I think it's a marvel. And he does like there is a, there's a department that manages the timelines and the universes and like if you make this decision then and and they have these like like my Apple 2 computer, it looks like that that computer and you can see the little and then you'll see a little branch and then it'll go a little red dot go bleep, bleep, bleep like, oh, someone did something out of you know and they jumped and they altered and so then they go fix it. OK.

52:23 So. Like time police? Yeah, yeah, Time police. Exactly. So that's Level 3. Like the alternate realities and the different decisions and, oh, I'm going to jump to the future. I'm going to the past. I'm going to do all these things. That's Level 3. So it is like that idea of the butterfly effect, right? Yes the butterfly effect where like. Like even if you do something like step on a butterfly can have complete change. Like, yeah, create a war a year later. Yes, yeah, yeah. Create a war. Or like like in that book. Fuck, what is it called? Not The Sound of Fury or some. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, it's the story where. You know, these rich people go on a safari, but like, rich people safari, which is they're hunting dinosaurs. OK, yeah, yeah.

53:11 So they're hunting dinosaurs. You can actually travel back in time, but you have to know. You have to be in the know, like the one percenters who can do this, and they have. Throughout these, like, you know, forest, jungle, whatever, it's like a pathway that you're only allowed to step on. You're not allowed to go off of the pathway that's been like roped off because if you do, there are serious repercussions. So like kill. Yeah, like you accidentally kill a plant. Well, that happens to be a species that, So something survives on and. Right. So like in the beginning of the story, the guys like they're they just had an election or something and like you know whatever happens, so they. What ends up happening is the dude steps on a butterfly and like his was kind of knocked off the course and it stepped on a butterfly. And that effect, like the language had changed. All the spelling on the signs and everything were different. When he like came back, the guy that was the host or like the one who was walking him through realized that there was an error that he had made that.

54:12 Fucked up the whole timeline. The election was results were different. Everything looked slightly off or different or like generic from what it looked like before. And so the dude who was the host was like, you need to keep this quiet and he's like, Oh my God, I can't believe I did this. I think he ended up the dude ended up dying or something. Which, yes, Remember when I talked at the beginning of this episode, I said what if Hitler won the war? What if Hitler 11 never like these are the things? Yeah, you step on a butterfly. That's what it what it causes. Yeah. Yep. Now parallel 3 universes are different from other universes because they take place in the same space and time as our own universe, but you still have no way to access them.

54:57 Oh, OK, And you have. You've never had and will never have contact with any level one or level 2 universes, we assume. But you're continually in contact with Level 3 universes every moment of your life. Every decision you make, it's causing your split of your now self to an infinite number of future selves, all of which are unaware of one another. Which would explain deja vu. Bingo. That is deja vu. It's not so much the butterfly fact. It is deja vu where you're like, I feel like I just did this, or like this is happening again or it's happened before. Why not?

55:39 Of of course it would have like some kind of this has happened in a few more of the universes, the multiverses or parallel universes, right? Am I right? Fuck. OK now they say. Of the four types of universes, Level 3 parallel universe has the least to do with string theory directly. Now I don't know really what that means. It was just a fact that I found and it was a point. Now level 4 universe is like the strangest place and most controversial of all because it would fundamentally be change all mathematical laws and laws of nature and physics and of our universe and it's just like it's kind of like dark.

56:35 I would consider I would call a level 4 universe like dark, like dark matter. Like they don't know what dark matter is. They just it's a they have to label it. The idea is that there's so much vastness, there has to be something because. It's React. It seems like everything around it's reacting to the vastness that we can't see, which is why they call it dark matter. Like, we don't know, it's just fucking something. So the idea behind that is that I guess the question that I have about so the reason why it's like. Opposing string theory and like all of these whatever like theories is because there are no rules. It's complete chaos.

57:17 It's controversial because then it says there everything we know of today is out the window. Out the window. There is no correlation. There's nothing like it's all chaotic. We have no, we have nothing we can measure because there are no rules, there's there's no harmony. I get that. I mean, I kind of I I mean it's comforting to think that there's harmony and you know, oneness or there's some something that we can like grasp onto to say this is the universe isn't chaotic. There is some kind of rule that all abides by Yeah, what?

58:00 Yeah, yeah, and then. But then if you start, yeah, sorry. Like I might literally can start making my brain explode when I start thinking about this stuff and I'm the type of person, like I'll just tell you, you guys probably don't care, but like, I'm a programmer. That's what I do for my life, my job, my real world. And when I have to program things around time, I my brain fucking melts like I #strugglebust. Like I for some reason my brain just can't do calculations around time, especially when you have to do time zones and like, times pass. Well, if I travel two hours, but it's time A here and time B here, like, Oh my God, like I just. And I do a lot of that.

58:46 Oh my God, I can't. I can't. And so then, so that's a very linear. That's very, even, very linear. And so then you start thinking, well, like in these other universes, like that's that's not even applicable. Like that doesn't even, that's not even a thing. No, like Oh my God, like I tell you, my brain will melt. My brain I I love that you did this topic because my brain melts every single time and it what the nice thing about it is that it truly shows that we are we are so. There's so much we don't understand in this weird, bizarre world. The. World is bizarre. The universe is bizarre. Our existence is bizarre. And it's it's because there's so much we don't know and we can't explain right. Which is kind of nice because then you don't have answers. I think having the answers, the mystery and the yeah, what if? What if, like, you can be creative? You can kind of think of all of these like it's great to talk about this kind of stuff because. It makes you think about possibility and possibilities. Encouraging.

59:46 I think so. You know, so this was great topic. Thanks. Thanks for taking Join me on my Universe journey. Well, and I like that you did this one too, because then we can go deeper into some of these other into these theories, but have like a base knowledge of it. Here, right, right. Because there's a lot like we talked about. Deja vu, butterfly, butterfly effects, like these things. Fucking what is it called? The Mandela Effect, like the all of these things are kind of tied into exactly what we're talking about. What's that one? So were you still alive or no? Wait, what is? That Nelson Mandela. So the Mandela Effect just briefly is the idea. It's kind of like parallel universes where there are a lot of people who remember Nelson Mandela not leaving prison in the 1980s and he had died in prison.

1:00:38 Yeah, that's South Africa. Yes. So it. That's like, that's like like where a lot of people are like, no, no, no, this person. And like Kirk Douglas died like in the 90s and he didn't die, you know, like he hadn't died, I think, until the 2000s. I don't really know. Interesting. So then you. Yeah. So then that does connect 'cause you go. Well, did somehow did the alternate universe bleed in? They're saying they're yeah, they're saying that like it's it's proof that there are alternate. Universes and some people are, because they have very strong somehow connecting into them. They have, they have incredibly. They're like, no, no, this happened. I remember it being a story on the news like, and it's like one of those really bizarre ones. Send me the Berenstein and Berenstain Bears, like, like we'll we'll talk about, you know, the Mandela Effect. But it's the basis is this connects to this. This is the basis.

1:01:30 This is the scientific, like basis of all of those weird theories. Yay. Yeah. Good. OK, good. Yeah. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for joining. And I don't know, I guess we'll talk to you in a couple weeks. Yeah. OK. Thanks. See ya. Bye.