The Power of The Mind

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Journey, the power of the Mind,
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I'll give you a topic of
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Rhode Island is Mila a road on
island discuss this guy.

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Yes.
Well we have I think a fun

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episode today.
I'm so stoked.

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Yeah, today's we're talking
about the the power of the mind

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and that can be a lot of
different things.

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We're going to talk about a few
things, that that could be, but

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I'm going to take your lead and
I'm going to start out with a

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quote who, okay?
And this is from a gentleman, a

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doctor, Wayne wall.
Altered dryer.

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Who was a very well-educated
American self-help author, and

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motivational speaker.
If you change the way you look

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at things, the things you look
at change.

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Interesting.
Yeah, I like that.

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So let me give you an example of
that, okay out.

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Who ever thought about
something?

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And then without explanation
you, you notice it repeatedly.

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So here's an example, you, you
think about, you want to go buy

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a car and you're like, I really
want this Ford Mustang.

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Yes.
And you're just thinking about

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and also you see all these Ford
Mustangs on the road?

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Another example you see you're
in traffic and you see, like, oh

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my God, there's like three,
Texas, license plates in a row.

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And then for the next day or
two, you're all you see your

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texas-sized, your ass are.
We being invaded by Exes.

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What the fuck has always been
going on?

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I've never seen it before.
So that's that's the point of

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of, dr.
Wayne Walter dryer is that when

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you when you are thinking about
something, or if you change the

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way you think about something,
then things change because your

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brain is working in a way that
you've kind of are telling it to

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work without consciously making
it work.

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Mmm, okay.
Okay.

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Okay.
Yeah.

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Brain very powerful.
Brain powerful brain.

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Brain equal power.
So Placebos are another good

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example of the brain being very
powerful.

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Yeah.
So, for years, the placebo

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effect was considered a failure
in medical science because When

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you gave someone something that
wasn't anything and it worked.

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There was a failure.
They are like they considered

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that a failure but it's
recently, they've actually

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started looking at it in a
different way and considering

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that kind of a success, there's
a study where they talk about

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the placebo cure rate and the
Rangers are drastic.

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They are sometimes these can,
they can be as low as 15

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percent.
But sometimes these Placebos can

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be as effective as 75%.
That is so interesting.

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Interesting.
Yeah.

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Again, to show you how powerful
that brain is, that is all your

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brain doing that, right?
So like, I guess like, from my

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perspective, or like a question
that I have like, you were

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saying, right?
Like, oh, this is like, like

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it's a failure in science.
Why it?

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Why is it not like considered a
phenomenon like Not have it is

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now they've changed their
perspective.

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Okay, so it sounds like the
quote is like instead of going.

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Okay I give you this drug and I
gave you this drug and now you

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both worked and so that
complete.

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Wow, what did I do wrong?
Yeah, they're looking at it in a

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whole different way.
Like, okay, now the now we're

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getting into the what a mind can
do.

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How powerful a mind is, you know
what, this kind of like brings

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me back to the Gateway process.
Oh sure.

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Yeah.
At projects the CIA paper, all

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about the brain, the mind, and
how powerful it is, and how you

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can really, you can do some
great things with it.

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That you're talking about the
great things that it can do.

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That's right.
That's exactly right.

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So cool.
So cool.

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So so what happens with the
placebo effect is that the brain

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anticipates, the outcome and
then the my will communicate

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with the body that anticipated
outcome and It prepares the body

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for healing.
By these miraculous events like

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by creating natural chemical
reactions.

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So, for example, give somebody a
placebo Bill, a pill and says,

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this is going to cure your
depression. and the body

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releases the serotonin, which
Cures depression.

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Yeah, without all these harmful
side effects, but your brain was

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anticipating that this pill was
going to do the thing, and so it

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produced the things to do the
thing.

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So, in other words, so, like
depression is a lack or a like,

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like the serotonin, your
serotonin or dopamine levels are

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like stunted.
Yeah.

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So and that's a natural chemical
that everyone has.

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Yep, So you're saying these
people are already low, they're

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already like you know operating
on a low lower level.

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Yep.
All that they have to hear about

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is hey, we're going to give you
a pill.

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We're going to we're going to go
through.

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Is it just the pill or is there?
Is it in conjunction with

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something like therapy or like
group session until it's just

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the pill?
And they said this pill is going

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to help your depression.
Wow.

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And they take this pill and it
does because again it's all

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about intention and your mind
being so powerful and convinced

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that that it's going to do what
it needs to do that.

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It generates these chemicals and
your bottom.

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This is just one example, right?
One example of a placebo and the

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point of these examples again is
just to to articulate how How

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powerful our mind is?
Hmm.

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It can do amazing things.
And as they say, you hear this

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all the time we use on average,
10% of our brain.

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Oh yeah.
What if we used 30 What if he's

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50?
What if we used a hundred

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percent of the capacity of our
brain?

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If we're the things that we can
do today with Timbers, can you

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imagine?
Mmm, I can, honestly, I can't

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can't, we can't no, I can't but
it does it, you know, you are

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asking a really interesting
question which is 1 science.

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Doesn't really understand what
the brain but the brain.

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That's right.
That we are what it says, don't.

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They still don't know.
They have no idea.

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There's so Much that we don't
understand.

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And maybe there is like a power
of healing within our own, our

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own minds that exists that we
can't quantify or qualify

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because we've always seen it as
being like a nut - right, not a

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gain.
Yeah, so it's a failure of

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science.
Not it's not a it's not a

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phenomenon that we need to kind
of embrace and try to better

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understand or at least create
create like an experiment.

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Goes right, like science.
Like yes, have a straight.

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Right?
But create some space within

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that method, the scientific
method where these phenomenons

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can exist and we can embrace
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Yes.
Yeah.

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It's just fascinating.
So fascinating.

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Yeah.
Even even, like, I don't know.

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You said it like, even three
percent more that we could use.

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Could you Matt?
I mean, that's, yeah, it's crazy

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when you start thinking about it
like that so small.

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So so here are some things that
researchers have found And this

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is, these are documented, these
are in papers.

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I mean, you can these Our Lives
legitimate, like Medical Science

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papers placebos, follow the same
dose response curve as real

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medicines.
So for example, yeah, Two pills.

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Are better than one.
A larger capsule is better than

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a smaller capsule.
Again the cells are brain.

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Placebo injections are more
effective than Placebo pills.

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Okay, once at the fuck, are they
injecting these people vitamin

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or something?
No, no with like Saline.

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It's like they know it's not
going to cause any kind of

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brush, no way that there's an
odd.

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That's water.
Yeah.

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Okay.
Okay.

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Yeah.
Substances that actually treat

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one condition but are used UPS
as a placebo to have greater

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placebo effect than sugar pills.
So example, yeah.

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I give you a Tylenol, huh?
It said this is going to cure

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your skin rash.
Sure.

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I give you a sugar pill and say
this is going to cure your skin

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rash.
The majority of the times, the

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Tylenol cured the rash more than
that sugarpill the Tylenol

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cured, the rash more than the
sugar pill, right?

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So, a placebo, they both
placebos big technically.

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Yes, they're not secure the skin
rash, but the one that was

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actually a medication to cure
one thing.

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But used as a placebo, in the
experiment was more effective

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than the placebo.
That was really nothing.

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So that's fucking wild geared so
you had no idea.

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It's not like you know Then the
person taking it doesn't mean

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they know they're in an
experiment, right?

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But they don't know, they're
being don't know what they're

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given.
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It's like they're testing it
beforehand, right?

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Oh my God.
That's like one.

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That's fucking crazy but to what
if there's like a greater

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knowing and that's not just
inserting shit.

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No, there is like a greater
knowing where we are.

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Like more, I don't know
Universal.

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Like maybe there's a universal
mind or something, so exacting

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know innately that there is
something more to this one pill

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at like collectively or
whatever.

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We're going to get in telepathy
and I'll tell my God.

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Okay.
Sorry people.

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Yeah, that's a pretty beautiful
tie in.

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Yeah.
What if there is this

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connection?
Yeah.

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Which because because how the
fuck would you know, you

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wouldn't know.
But guess who does know the

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scientist who's giving you the
The thing.

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Uh-huh.
They know that there's something

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more to that pill.
Uh-huh, if you're somehow to

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Let's Help, ethically, like
communicating on some level that

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you don't really understand.
Who knows?

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Oh my God.
Okay, power of the brain, power

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of the brain brainy the greater
the pain, the greater, the

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placebo effect.
It's as if. it's as if the more

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relief, we desire, the more
relief we attain, would you kind

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of think about, Kind of makes
some sense like if I'm in great

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pain and the placebo works.
I'm gonna it's big.

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The ratio of effect is going to
be greater because I have

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greater pain.
So I kind of make some sense

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that makes sense.
I think that you're wanting to

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seek comfort more so like
anything like that happen.

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That's right.
Yeah, yeah.

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That's right.
You don't have to be sick.

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Flora for a placebo to work
examples were Placebo,

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stimulants, or tranquilizers or
Placebo.

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Alcohol.
Can produce the same predictable

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effects.
I have actually heard about that

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where people thought they were
getting drunk and he actually

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were not getting drunk.
There was no alcohol at all

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involved in like an entire part
like an entire group of people

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are acting like Fucking like
they have been drinking so much

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and in reality there's not been
anything or even like yeah,

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yeah.
That's that's Bizarro.

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Yes.
Your brain.

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Did that your brain created,
you're bringing that to your

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body.
You'd like physically altered

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your body.
I mean, it gets into that like,

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you know the way that you talk
to yourself, like has a great

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impact on the way that, you
know, the world sees you exact

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takes bright back to the quote,
is, how you the way you look at

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things.
Yeah, if you change the way you

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look at things, then things
change.

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Yes, yes.
Goes as simple as if I am, just

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a cranky.
But all day, things are going to

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suck, right?
Right.

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Nobody's gonna want to be around
you.

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They're going to treat you like
shit?

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Yeah, totally.
If I have, if I make myself have

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a good attitude, things are
going to generally work out

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better.
I'm going to make those things

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change, the things, recollect
changed, how I looked at things,

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it's all weird connected.
It's all fucking bizarre AF.

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Yes.
So as in all brain actions, the

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placebo effect is the product of
chemical changes your brain.

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Is doing stuff.
And numerous Studies have

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supported the conclusion that
endorphins in the brain.

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Produced the placebo effect.
Excuse me.

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And in patients with chronic
pain.

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For example, Placebo responders
were found to have higher

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concentrations of endorphins in
their spinal fluid than Placebo

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of Nan.
Responders.

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So people that didn't respond to
it.

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What?
What your spinal fluid?

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They're testing, it's not just
like, you know, this person just

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feels better.
It's like these are like

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legitimate.
Fucking it like testing.

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Yeah.
Where they're looking and

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seeing, Oh God, like this
person, their spinal fluid.

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We're tapping their spine.
We're getting the fluid out and

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different showing.
Yeah, it's different than this

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person.
Got these, all of these

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endorphins that's fucking wild,
dude, just like the thought

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Tower of the brain, the power of
the brain, the power of thought

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to power of thought.
That's what Placebo boil.

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Down to write is thought.
Yeah, this Placebo is going to

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cure my skin rash.
And look, it's gone.

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I mean, yeah, if you keep on
saying oh I'm sick, I feel this.

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I that is another one people
that have, what is that?

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When you're always do that, when
you're always sick,

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hypochondriac Contour your like
you're afraid of being sick,

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rats.
Are you fearing it?

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Boop.
Boop, boop, that's your brain.

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You're creating that dating it.
Yeah, you're creating your

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reality and it's easy for us to
say I'm not telling anyone that

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they shouldn't feel that way.
I'm just simply saying that

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that's how powerful the brain.
You and I were both talking

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about our day before and are
weak and we're both like God our

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weeks fucking sucked and prop it
for me, it propagated.

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Let's get it.
Because remember I said I had

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that one issue.
Two days later, I had another

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one and it just kept going and
it's like so out of out of

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character out of context or not,
someone who has these issues and

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then it just kept on kept
happening getting like as same

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thing with like acting.
Like if I'm acting like onstage,

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that's a huge step.
Yeah, you fuck up, you're like,

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oh my God, I'm gonna fuck up
more.

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Oh, I'm gonna go out there, I'll
fuck it.

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It's just like it's gonna be a
fucking shitty show.

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And you know what I found
though, maybe it's the reverse

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some kind of placebo effect,
like those shows were like

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nothing goes, right?
Is the most fun for me?

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I always think it's like, keeps
you on your toes.

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Keeps you on your toes, but but
also like, it keeps you on your

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toes.
You're not doing the same

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things.
And, well, that's just a to,

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because it's the unexpected.
Did right.

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Oh yeah.
So it ties into this phenomenon

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where it's like the unexpected
happening and you're kind of, I

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guess you're embracing that.
So I guess you could be like,

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well, I'm just gonna throw my
hands up and whatever or you

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could be like, I'm gonna fucking
ride this ride.

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Exactly.
Which is, which is probably why

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it's the best thing just
everything.

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That's so crazy.
It seems like, okay.

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So you're talking about
hypochondriacs.

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Uh-huh.
Do you think that like that has

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something to do with personality
like some of these things are

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more personality based?
So like I'm I tend to be more

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optimistic.
I'm not.

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I see the glass as half full or
half a glass.

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Whatever realistic optimistic.
Mmm, I'm not pessimistic.

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I don't automatically think
everything's out to get me.

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Yeah.
Does that have a huge effect on

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it?
Would you think?

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I think it does?
Yeah, I think so too.

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Again, I think it boils back
down.

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To your perspective, how you
look at things people that are

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always very - those pessimists
and those hypochondriacs and

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like there.
It's all, it's like an ongoing.

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Yes, they're always a victim.
Always a victim people that we

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always say, love drama.
Like God just like a drama mama

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like yes.
Old you live and driving when

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you don't have drama they feel
uncomfortable.

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Yeah because right now there's
faced with themselves.

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They have to look at themselves.
It's all about your perspective

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and how you're looking at things
and how you want to look at

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things and it just, it changes
everything.

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And again I know it's easy to
say and that's not why we're

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here today over here just to
again emphasize.

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Brain is fucking amazing brain.
Equal power.

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Yeah, I mean yeah it's it's
amazing to hear like real.

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You know, about real set like
substantial.

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Daddy's that, you know, you have
evidence where they're like, we

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don't we're throwing our hands
up, we don't really know what's

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happening but something's
happening, right?

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And the brain is that's all we
can say is like the brain

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somehow controlling some of this
are all of this or whatever the

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case is like yes.
There's something going on.

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There's something there.
Yeah.

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Measurable measurable.
Yeah.

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It's measurable.
We're tapping people's spinal

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cords and we're finding this
shit's happening like What the

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fuck?
So you're so your mind can

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really control your body, beyond
what we can do.

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It's not a constant normal
basis.

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We're I've already given us
examples of this.

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Let's take a little step
further.

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Okay.
What about telekinesis?

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What about telepathy?
So let's talk about telepathy

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for a sec.
Yeah.

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It was going to be like, what
the fuck is the difference?

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The same thing.
So, one is transmitting thought

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between 1% of the other was that
literally control moving things

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controlling physical objects.
That's the difference between

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the two.
Okay?

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All stemming from the brain, the
mind.

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Okay?
So in telepathy again is the

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transmission of information from
one person's mind to another

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without using any known human
sensory channels or physical

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Touch your interaction.
Okay.

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Like this this is not telepathy.
This is he's a sign language

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hands.
Like he's doing letters for sign

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language.
ABCD.

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There you go.
I think this is d 0 D with one.

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Yep.
Like that e.e.

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I think I J K is really
interesting.

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No, no no movements or anything.
It's just, what is what

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telepathy is it too much to ask
to be?

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Like, just sitting here looking
each other in?

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Like, you know what?
I'm about to say right now.

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Yes.
What kind of my thinking Sam?

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No, okay, so the first not
talking, the term was first

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coined in 1882 by a classical
scholar by the name of Frederick

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Myers.
He's a founder of the Society of

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Wait, it's not physical
research.

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It's psych, psych psych, psych
call achill.

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Psy CH IC i-- l-- psychology,
psychical psychic, all

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psychical, thank you.
I could call Society of

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psychical, research at all
yourself.

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Psychical research.
Thank you.

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Yes.
And it has remained more popular

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than what they early called it
initially which was thought

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transference, which I like
thoughts.

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Try think I like that better.
It makes more sense to me.

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So start reading so in the late
19th century magicians and

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mentalists would they would
perform this thought reading

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demonstrations and they would do
things like perform like by

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correctly.
Identifying Like a spot on a

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tail.
Like someone would pick a spot

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on a table and they will have
they well, the magician or The

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Mentalist would have picked that
spot or find a hidden object or

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Etc during the experiment.
Most would require physical

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contact with the subject.
So The Mentalist or the

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magician, for example, a see,
let's do a overhead.

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Where do ya say we do something
like this gracias?

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Yes.
And then saying communicate

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tell, you know, show me where
the that.

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Person picked on the table or
whatever.

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Yeah.
So they would all require some

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sort of physical touch like
that.

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Clearly, the person who they
were touching was in on it, they

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knew who where it was, they
would use what they called.

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And I keep that I was trying to
find this works.

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I'd found it one time I couldn't
find it, basically boils down to

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muscle movement.
So like somehow like you would

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touch and somehow you would like
feel like this.

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Yeah.
And we would communicate by you

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could feeling where it was
somehow we had it.

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So you could feel that that kind
of muscle movement.

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Yes, and that's how they would
communicate.

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See you at home?
Old onto someone's.

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I could totally see that you
could hold onto someone's rest

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and based on which like finger
they moved, you could feel that

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muscle, you could feel my muscle
moves, they wouldn't you know

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this would be obvious right if I
was like doing you know this.

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But like if I'm just kind of
like if you hold my wrist, huh?

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If I just kind of went like I
could tell which side of your of

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your press.
I'm UK.

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I'm not really moving anything
but you guys but they're holding

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on to your hand.
Maybe they're doing this.

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Yeah.
Unlike.

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Yes.
Yeah.

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That's how they would.
They would do that.

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Right?
Which so slick slick, which then

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makes people not believing real
straight but well there's money

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to be made and these
motherfuckers are going to make

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it.
It's perfect.

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So there was another famous read
Earth.

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His name was Stuart Cumberland,
and he was famous performing

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blindfolded treats.
Like identifying a hidden object

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in a room that a person had
picked out, or asking someone to

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imagine a murder scene, and then
attempted to read the subjects,

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thoughts and identify the victim
and reenact this crime.

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You do all these kind of like
really dramatic things, he

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literally claimed that he
possessed.

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No, genuine psychic ability and
his thought reading performance.

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Has could only be distant.
Describe demonstrate by holding

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the hand of the subject, he came
into dispute, you know, with

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this this whole thing.
And again, it was this whole

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muscle muscle movement mob,
muscle movement, but he knew, he

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knew the people ahead of time.
They had already decided on

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something.
Exactly.

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So there are plans.
Yes, yes they are.

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All plans It Cumberland himself,
he argued that telepathy and

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communication with the dead were
absolutely impossible in the

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mind of man cannot read through
telepathy.

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And so, you know, there was this
whole debate where they were

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trying to prove that telepathy
and could exist.

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But then, you had people like
him that, we're just effing it

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all up, right?
And making people doubt it,

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doubt it.
Yeah, that's that's the thing

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that sucks about it is like, you
know, you'll sit there and and

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you'll have someone who is like,
Hey, look, If this is legit

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like, you know, we've talked
about like, you know, people in

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positions of power who are
saying like, hey these things

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exist in them and and it's like
oh here's a red herring.

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Like this is a some weird shit
that I'm saying like, like Dia

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or whatever.
Right.

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Like Dia.
Like hey there's some weird shit

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for sure.
Underneath Dia.

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But you know what else is very
strange fucking just like these

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underground bunkers.
But oh yeah, we have like these

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aliens that suck like children's
blood.

462
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,400
Yes, they eat their Clan.
Yes they eat.

463
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,100
They eat children slams and
that's why you shouldn't go to.

464
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,600
I turn dia Denver International
Airport, don't like it really

465
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,400
does distract or does detract
from the real issues or the

466
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,700
potential.
Yeah, problems.

467
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:58,100
Yes, it's interesting.
So so what about real telepathy?

468
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:01,900
Like when we're talking about
the no-contact telepathy like

469
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:06,600
yeah, real telepathy, okay, so
like I don't want to alarm

470
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:11,700
anybody listening but the act of
transferring thoughts into

471
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:19,500
someone else's head is Literally
real as in published in academic

472
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:24,500
papers, real.
Like they've literally, It's

473
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:26,700
real.
Like they actually no through

474
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:29,100
did.
They've document it is real.

475
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:32,600
Now, here's the cash.
Okay, there's a little caveat.

476
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,500
Oh wait, sorry, let me back up.
So, yeah, part of the

477
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:42,600
documentation was that people
people have not only

478
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,500
communicated like I'm thinking
of a phrase and you go phrases,

479
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:53,700
blah, blah blah.
They've also telepak telepathy

480
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:57,100
through telepathic, telepathic
ways controlled rats.

481
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,600
Oh, right.
Go down.

482
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:02,300
Go down.
That road left.

483
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:06,300
Known turn document.
It Okay.

484
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:11,600
Now here's the caveat.
Technology was involved in that

485
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,300
they had to put.
They're called trans

486
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:21,900
transcranial, magnetic
stimulation in the rats.

487
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:27,100
And well, yeah, so the the the
human would have this some kind

488
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,800
of device on their head.
Yeah.

489
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,800
On the rats would have this
little implant on their brain

490
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,400
and they use this kind of this
wand to kind of connect the two.

491
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:39,400
And so they were literally like
note, physically, connecting

492
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,600
them physically, connecting
through technology but men but

493
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,100
through the mind and thought
process, Doing things or

494
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:55,700
transmitting information.
So, So yes, not not not like

495
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:57,800
apathy like we're thinking like
I'm going to see here and you're

496
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,800
gonna think of the color.
Yeah, not like that.

497
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,900
But what color am I thinking?
Blue?

498
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,200
So but they were doing it.
So, okay, maybe it's maybe it's

499
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,000
telepathy 101, maybe it's the
right first step into using more

500
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,900
than 10% of our freaking brain,
because that's all we're using,

501
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:20,400
right?
Maybe we need a like a helping

502
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,100
hand.
And some help me until we can

503
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,800
get to the 30 or 50 or right.
70.

504
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Yeah.
Whatever.

505
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:34,000
Right.
Um, so but it just proves that

506
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,400
thoughts are tangible.
Yeah, they are tangible.

507
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,200
They're not human the grab it.
But it's a thing that exists

508
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,700
that it can change.
Clearly, they're capturing it

509
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,300
and controlling it if they can
put it through technology, if I

510
00:30:46,308 --> 00:30:48,500
can control a rat through my
thoughts, clearly that's a

511
00:30:48,508 --> 00:30:49,900
thing.
Hmm, right.

512
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:51,200
Well for sure.
Mmm.

513
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,500
Also, haven't you ever had a
sense?

514
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,800
What someone's thinking and I've
been right.

515
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,900
Yes, so and it and sure settle
things could have contributed

516
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:15,400
like facial expressions or maybe
the context of the moment or You

517
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,900
know, something like that.
But nonetheless, you've had this

518
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,700
mind-meld so their men, I mean,
there must be there, has there

519
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:27,400
must be something there.
Yeah, I mean, I think, I think

520
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,200
that the thing that makes me
think about it, it's something

521
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,500
that's, everyone has had like,
some kind of, you can walk into

522
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,600
a room, like, I've walked into a
room.

523
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,100
I wasn't in the room before.
I didn't know who was in the

524
00:31:40,108 --> 00:31:43,900
room, but you walk into a room
you're like, it feels like

525
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:48,000
there's like some Anger in here.
Like I don't like this feeling

526
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
or you get like the
heebie-jeebies or something

527
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,400
where you're like, oh I don't
know what's going on.

528
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,700
And then you find out later,
like, yeah, someone had like

529
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:58,300
some issues in there or or
whatever there's where you're at

530
00:31:58,300 --> 00:31:59,200
was.
I don't know.

531
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,600
There was a murder or something
like that.

532
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,600
Like you still there's like an
imprint or there's like some

533
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,200
kind of knowing that your mind
has something you're picking up

534
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,800
on something up.
Yeah, yeah, something legitimate

535
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,300
something.
Yes, exactly.

536
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:15,300
Exactly.
And again, this, this might Must

537
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,900
be the initial.
This might just be, like, just

538
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:23,400
the tip of that little Iceberg
of what we're doing, but had

539
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,200
have we been able to use temp?
100 percent of our brain, maybe

540
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400
this, maybe like we could
legitimately do this.

541
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:34,300
Hmm.
I mean, it kind of makes you

542
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:39,400
wonder if the scientific
Community there already already

543
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,200
kind of studying this.
Then they know that there's

544
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,000
something something there and
I've heard of people, I'm not

545
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,500
going to bring them up right now
because I'm sure we're going to

546
00:32:48,508 --> 00:32:51,100
talk about the future future
episodes.

547
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:54,900
But you know, you hear about
these people who they can't.

548
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:56,100
They can't really make sense of
it.

549
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,700
Like this person just has, they
just know some shit.

550
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,100
Yes, we don't.
We're not telling them, they

551
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:06,100
just know it and we can't we
have no idea how that.

552
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,100
Fuck, like how is this person
has that?

553
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,100
And other people don't.
Maybe they're using a person,

554
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:13,200
like more of their brain.
Maybe that's it.

555
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,600
Yeah, I don't know, maybe that's
how Some people can do things,

556
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,700
maybe psychics, I don't know,
but maybe they've got some

557
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:24,300
connection with their brain.
That's Way Beyond what normal

558
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,000
people have.
Yeah.

559
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,700
Cuz even hear about like, I
don't know, I will go into

560
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:32,200
aliens like you, you hear about
like telepathy and stuff with

561
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,600
aliens and it's like, oh, they
never was how they communicate.

562
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,000
Yeah.
Like they could communicate

563
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
without talking.
You just kind of know that

564
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,400
they're what they're saying.
Yes.

565
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,300
But even in dreams and stuff.
I don't know if you dream often

566
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:45,400
so I do.
Yeah.

567
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:50,300
Yeah, in dreams like you'll have
like, for me, I dream often and

568
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:53,800
I'll have like an idea of
something that's happening or

569
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,400
like, I'll know how other people
are feeling in the dream and

570
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,400
there are no words that need to
be said and that's just in your

571
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,900
dream state sometimes you.
Yeah, you're hanging out with

572
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:05,600
your friend or whatever you
might know them really well, but

573
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,400
like you can just kind of feel
something in the room.

574
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,100
Like I feel like they're this
person doesn't like me or like,

575
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:15,400
you know, fucking Karen or
whatever like in and fuck.

576
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:19,800
An accounting hates me for HR,
like, they're all Karen's.

577
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:24,500
Yeah, we still got that little
and like I said, I know, you

578
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:28,000
know, some people will say,
well, you know, the context of

579
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,800
the room or, or whatever and
yeah, okay, sure.

580
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,199
Like there's subtle clues, that
I'm sure we can pick up on that,

581
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:37,699
you know, give us an idea of
what that person's thinking.

582
00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:41,400
Oh, we happen to be right but
It's energy.

583
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:43,400
Yeah.
The bottom line is that those

584
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,900
thoughts are energy and if you
can, we've already proven that

585
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:50,600
you can transmit them.
I mean, we need some help with

586
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,900
technology, but you can transmit
them and you can receive them.

587
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,600
So, if, if you can do that
better than people that are

588
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,700
using very little of their brain
than this seems very plausible,

589
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:05,700
oh, for sure to me.
Yeah.

590
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:15,900
So I used to actually practice
telepathy when I was a kid with

591
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:19,100
my dad.
Oh my God, your parents.

592
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:20,600
The other pretty cool.
Yeah.

593
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:25,600
So we had cards and I'm sure
you've seen them before but

594
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,100
they're like white cards and
they'll have like maybe a black

595
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:33,200
triangle or a square circle.
Wavy lines a plus sign right?

596
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,800
They have these cards and we
would you know, he would hold up

597
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200
a card to himself and he would
look at it.

598
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,900
And then I would try to read his
mind and say this is the card

599
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:51,600
you're thinking of, right?
Even odds, even the odds say 50

600
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,900
50 percent plus or minus is you
know if you just kept doing that

601
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:57,000
over and over and over you know
all the cards.

602
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,300
Yeah you're gonna you know
there's going to be some

603
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,700
percentage that you're going to
get right just by guessing

604
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,300
right?
I distinctly remember one time I

605
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:10,000
was with my dad and we had done
this for a long time.

606
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,500
The same we have been doing this
these flashcards, okay by

607
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:17,500
sometime I remember specifically
one time and I getting Ting.

608
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,400
Seven in a row.
Wow.

609
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,400
And with like eight, you have a
different, there's want to

610
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:30,900
there's like they're eight
options in these flashcards

611
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,800
getting seven in a row with
eight options.

612
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:38,400
That's more than That's more
than just guessing.

613
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,200
Yeah that's there's something.
There's the yeah the fact that

614
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,300
you got okay, maybe two, okay.
Yeah even reward for yeah then

615
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:52,600
seven Yeah.
So would your dad be holding

616
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,800
them?
And he'd like he would he would

617
00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:00,100
hold it in front so like if we
were if we were like you if I if

618
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:02,700
you were me I was my dad.
He would take the card and he

619
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,500
would hold it up like this and
he would look at it.

620
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:09,700
He would just stare at it and
then I would call out the card.

621
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,800
So he would be staring at the
card while you were almost kind

622
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,900
of like trying to see his his
thoughts.

623
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,800
Yes.
Which is that's telepathy.

624
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,800
Okay, so honestly, you know how
I thought it would work, huh?

625
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,600
I thought that you would try
like, let's say I have a picture

626
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,200
of a guitar.
Yes, up.

627
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,000
I'd be like looking at the
guitar and I just be like

628
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,900
staring at you like guitar,
guitar, guitar guitar.

629
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,400
Yes, same thing.
Okay, same thing.

630
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,900
Okay.
Does it make a difference?

631
00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:42,600
If you look at the car looking
for the person, I don't like in

632
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,400
transmitting.
In my mind is of when I'm

633
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,800
thinking, if I think through
this, yeah, I don't have Look at

634
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,500
you to transmit an electrical
electrical transmission.

635
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,500
Like it's kind of think of it
like a cell phone, like I don't

636
00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:00,600
have to point my cell phone at
you or the towers like it just

637
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,400
kind of.
It's this.

638
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,600
It's this transmission.
Yeah.

639
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:04,200
Okay.
Right.

640
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,600
So whether I look at you or that
it's not that's not my eyeballs.

641
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,800
Aren't the direction of the
thought?

642
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:13,400
No, no you don't have to direct
it but what if we're so bad at

643
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,700
it that maybe we are right,
right?

644
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:20,300
Cause I need to have it.
So even though We're putting out

645
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,700
there.
I almost wonder, like, when

646
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:24,800
you're thinking about things
like flash cards, like that's

647
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,900
one thing.
But when you go into a room,

648
00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:33,400
that's had like a lot of, you
know, maybe somber, like, like I

649
00:38:33,408 --> 00:38:35,000
was saying, like, emotions and
stuff.

650
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,900
Yes.
There's like a an echo or

651
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:41,500
something of it.
We just talked about that in our

652
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:45,600
previous episode of the airplane
where those?

653
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,100
Yeah, that's what I'm Terrence
to those physical objects.

654
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200
Right.
Yeah I think it's the exact same

655
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,700
thing that you're talking about.
Yeah.

656
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,800
Okay yeah so it is call them
whatever you want.

657
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,700
Negative thoughts or energies or
even positive.

658
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:04,300
Thoughts extreme feelings.
Yes, exactly.

659
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,900
That's weird.
I going in the air or bouncing

660
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,100
in the room or connecting to the
TV or I don't know whatever.

661
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,600
Yeah yeah.
So I think it's the exact same

662
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,200
thing.
But of course it would have an

663
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,500
easier way of moving things
because because if you're if

664
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,500
you're sitting there There.
And like if you have an extreme

665
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:25,800
situation, like you're about to
die, of course it things are

666
00:39:25,808 --> 00:39:28,400
going to be imprinted or Echoes
of that.

667
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:31,500
But if you're just trying to
guess a guitar off of a flash

668
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:34,600
card that's going to be really,
really hard because there's no

669
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,900
intensity.
Yeah.

670
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:38,000
The intensity is just not there,
right?

671
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,600
Unless you could use 50% of your
or whatever I'm saying.

672
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,800
Yeah, whatever the number is, I
don't know what it is but I

673
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,000
look, you're better at it.
Like that's what you can do

674
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:48,400
otherwise.
Yeah.

675
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,400
When It's hard.
Like you said, it's just not.

676
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:55,300
We're just not built for it for
it initially.

677
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,400
Yes.
Or maybe we were built for it

678
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,200
and we forgotten it.
Yeah.

679
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:04,300
Or we've been blinded to it or
we've been blinded to it.

680
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,600
The fucking conspiracy.
People are trying to keep us

681
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,300
away from being connected.
Yes I could see that I can see

682
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:13,500
that stays us.
He has I mean come on how much

683
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:17,300
money have you spent at Amazon
this year, to my husband.

684
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,600
We all hate on but we're and I
just had a conversation about it

685
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,200
this morning.
Oh yeah.

686
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,300
Yes, I know I was talking to
Dave about him.

687
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:27,600
Like I should really need to
stop.

688
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:39,100
I need to stop at so easy.
Okay, so Forget about this whole

689
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:43,200
cool mystery sci fi aspect of
ass for a second of telepathy.

690
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,600
Okay.
Think about the actual medical

691
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,200
benefits of being able to send
things to the brain that would

692
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,200
help you heal.
I mean, we just talked about

693
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,400
placebos.
Yeah, that's a great

694
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,200
application, right?
Put the placebo thing in

695
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,600
conjunction with the telepathy
thing, we're talking about cures

696
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,900
without medicine or side
effects.

697
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:06,600
Yes.
Cares about medicine side

698
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:12,200
effects or let me get on my
conspiratorial a soapbox lots of

699
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,600
money being spent people aren't
spending the insane amounts of

700
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,800
money even more reason to to
block a man down.

701
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The these huge corporations

702
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,700
don't want.
They don't want us to be able to

703
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,100
just kick us out like and yes.
And you, I saw thought to cure

704
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:32,900
her.
Oh, hell to the no.

705
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:33,600
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

706
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,400
You wanna this diabetes like
you?

707
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,300
No cure.
No.

708
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,400
We'd rather just charge you a
thousand dollars for every pill.

709
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,600
Yeah.
Uh-huh.

710
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,500
Or for insulin?
On which is the fucking case,

711
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:47,400
right?
I mean it would be in their best

712
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,100
interest to not do it.
Of course.

713
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:53,700
Oh God, that would be an
amazing, amazing application.

714
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:56,100
Yes.
Okay, let's let's try to make

715
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:57,000
that happen.
Okay.

716
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,900
Can you talk to these people?
We're soon as you can, guess the

717
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:02,300
color I'm thinking, then we'll
be on the right path.

718
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:03,500
Are you thinking of a color
right now?

719
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:10,800
Yes green, no, goddamn it.
Okay, what about telekinesis,

720
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,800
okay?
So you are saying you were

721
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:18,500
saying, tell tell Telepathy is
thoughts telekinesis kinetic

722
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:22,700
that's test you with your body
or movement movement, so moving

723
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:24,300
objects.
Yes.

724
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,800
So you can move your thoughts
with your thoughts, moving

725
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,100
anything, moving people,
anything, anything, anything in

726
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,900
the Physical Realm, the
applications could be great and

727
00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:37,100
bad.
Both.

728
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:42,000
Yeah.
So but this is another thing

729
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,200
I've done.
Okay.

730
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:48,200
Oh my God Kevin I love it.
So I can't honestly remember an

731
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,300
action going to go.
See my dad here in a week so I'm

732
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:54,700
gonna ask him if he remembers
but and I can't remember where

733
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:59,400
we were but he had taken me
somewhere where And I don't want

734
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,800
to say it was like to a psychic
but it was somewhere where this

735
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:09,300
was like a people, you know, the
accepted it because I re I

736
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:11,500
specifically remember sitting on
a couch.

737
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,400
Uh-huh.
And there was this wooden

738
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,900
circular.
I'm going to guess it was maybe

739
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:20,200
like seven or eight inches
around.

740
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,600
As I said like a thick think of
a cutting board.

741
00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:26,300
Okay.
And it was round and on top of

742
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:28,600
it was a glass Dome.
So you imagine if you were like

743
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:32,300
Like when you serve food and
they put those domes on it with

744
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:35,400
the smoke and you know, they
serve so yeah, like like over

745
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,700
like a cocktail or car looked
like whiskey cocktail, imagine

746
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:43,000
that like about eight inches
around and the Dome you know

747
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,200
like a foot tall, okay.
And this glass Dome is sitting

748
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,900
on top of their will hanging
from the center of the Dome.

749
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:55,300
Was this really thin like string
and then a crystal that was like

750
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:57,000
a, an inch long.
Okay.

751
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,700
And it's like a normal like The
physical Crystal.

752
00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:04,900
Yeah, and it was hanging.
So it was just floating in side.

753
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:11,200
This glass Dome and the idea was
that you would focus on that

754
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,200
Crystal and move it.
You wouldn't, that was the

755
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,300
purpose of this thing?
This contraption for lack of a

756
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:21,100
better term.
Was that you, the idea was that

757
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:24,200
you focus on this Crystal and
you make the crystal move.

758
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,800
Now, the purpose of the glass
was to ensure that there was no

759
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,400
external forces moving it,
right?

760
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,600
There's no wind or fan or
anything.

761
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,200
So, this glass would keep it
from.

762
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,300
I mean, there's literally dead
still right?

763
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,000
So you couldn't touch it to move
it.

764
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,700
He couldn't use fans anything
like that with anyone near the

765
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:42,500
table?
Yeah, everyone.

766
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,300
I mean this, Is having in the
way and I'll keep saying waiting

767
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:47,900
room because like but that's
kind of it was like a living

768
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:49,900
room or something.
I can't remember.

769
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,800
But I remember seeing it
repeatedly.

770
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,600
Yeah.
Okay.

771
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,800
And every time we would go, I
would do it.

772
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,800
I would focus on, you know, I
would like I want to move this

773
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,800
thing.
When I move this thing, I want

774
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,600
to move this thing, and I did it
every single time.

775
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,000
I would focus on it.
Focus on it.

776
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,400
Focus on it.
No, you moved it every single

777
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,200
time.
No.

778
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,200
Okay, no.
I was just going to do this,

779
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:20,900
okay?
One time it actually moved and

780
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:24,800
it would move its very gradual
and then eventually I just kept

781
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,200
staring at it and then it
started making this little back

782
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,000
and forth.
And then it started doing this

783
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,500
kind of circus, like, circular
very small.

784
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,300
Yeah.
But it was like doing this kind

785
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:39,700
of Maybe like imagine like a
half an inch, it was just kind

786
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:43,000
of doing this little loop at e
Loop thing, okay?

787
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:46,500
I didn't want to say anything
because I didn't want it to

788
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:48,300
stop.
I wasn't sure if it was real if

789
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:50,400
I was imagining it.
Yeah.

790
00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:55,100
And so I just kept staring at it
and staring at it and then by

791
00:45:55,100 --> 00:46:00,100
the time I actually realized
what was happening, my dad was

792
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:04,800
watching it and he had got other
people to come look and go, you

793
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,900
know, they're all staring at and
they're all being perfectly

794
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:10,100
quiet because they are like, oh
my God, it's actually it's

795
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:13,800
actually moving so it doesn't
happen very often right exact

796
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,600
well Right.
How have you ever heard of

797
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,400
anybody moving shit with her
mind?

798
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:23,000
I mean, no, no, I have a couple
questions after the story but

799
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:27,900
okay, but what the fuck?
So how long you how long have

800
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:29,500
you were to guess?
How long do you think you were

801
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:36,500
moving it for?
A minute or two.

802
00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:37,500
Okay.
Yeah.

803
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:39,500
I mean to say is, it's an artist
to very well.

804
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:42,400
Well then it and then what's it
stopped and it would you know

805
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400
like anything in perpetual
motion, it would have been

806
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:47,800
really slow down and stop, huh?
Yeah.

807
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:55,200
So So I hate to say it like
this, but how long was I

808
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,100
physically moving it?
I don't, it could have been like

809
00:46:57,100 --> 00:47:00,600
a second or five seconds to get
it going and then it was, you

810
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:07,900
know, it's on its own.
I had never done it after

811
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:09,500
before, or after.
Okay.

812
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:11,900
Nothing ever like that.
Again, in my life.

813
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,900
How old were you again?
This was late single digits.

814
00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:20,600
Okay, so like 9:00.
Yeah.

815
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,600
And remember what we talked
about Spirit writing and another

816
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,800
one.
It was all in this.

817
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,100
All of this happened to me
within a couple of years.

818
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:34,500
Okay, all in this like, 89 time
frame, did your parents still

819
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:36,800
like where they Still into that
kind of stuff.

820
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,900
Yeah, but you just didn't
participate. at me, I did and

821
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:46,800
they weren't it's not like they
were I can also Super Active in

822
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,000
it.
It was just kind of like a past.

823
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,500
Yeah, something something that
you do like yeah, you're not

824
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:52,200
playing chutes or ladders your
fucking.

825
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,700
Yeah, we're moving Crystal
objects in a glass container.

826
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,100
It's very Colorado.
And then so then I was like oh

827
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:01,800
maybe thinking about it.
Maybe dad was taking me to a

828
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,500
like a Wiccan cult meeting in
the catacombs of Denver and I'm

829
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:05,500
just kidding.
No.

830
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:07,300
I was thinking the same thing.
I'm like, what the fuck?

831
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:08,900
Where was your father?
Yeah.

832
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:11,200
Like you're in your like I don't
know exactly where it was but

833
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,100
was like kind of like a living
room like fucking what kind of

834
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,500
call?
Alt is that there's they're

835
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:18,100
quite a few calls here,
Colorado.

836
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:22,000
So what, what the fuck was this?
I don't think it was like that.

837
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,200
I think it was, I think he was
going to like, I like a medium

838
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,100
or something.
There's like a lot of people.

839
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:31,900
There there, there like like
this is like a yeah.

840
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:34,100
There were like I want to.
I don't see a lot.

841
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:35,700
It's like a waiting room.
Yeah.

842
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:38,400
So that there's like, you know,
six, seven people.

843
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,600
Maybe it's like a yeah.
Maybe it is a psychic.

844
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,500
I think maybe I was a psychic or
a medium.

845
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:44,200
Oh my gosh.
I know.

846
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:46,900
He has gone to them before.
But what if he did?

847
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:50,600
He was like, in a calm guy
breaking his ankle, that would

848
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,200
be cool.
You do we have to do a follow

849
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,300
remember robes, I don't
remember, oh, yeah, ropes but I

850
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:59,700
can't remember what happened for
30 minutes and I saw a dead

851
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:04,800
chicken on the fucking ground.
Like maybe I was and like, I

852
00:49:04,808 --> 00:49:07,600
don't know, I just Spirit of
fucking Beelzebub.

853
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,700
Yeah.
Oh my God.

854
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:13,900
So scary.
Um, so, that's telekinesis and

855
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:23,700
You know, Part of Me Goes.
I don't believe you like I don't

856
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:25,400
believe myself, you know what I
mean?

857
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,600
But I remember it.
I remember this happening.

858
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,200
Very clearly.
Just like I remember Spirit

859
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,900
writing with my mom.
Like I remember that happening.

860
00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:44,500
And so that's why I really
believe that again that your

861
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:51,100
mind can do way more than we
even are capable ever know.

862
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:55,500
So we can and in sometimes I
feel like which is why it's kind

863
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,400
of interesting that you had
these experiences as a child.

864
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,300
Like as a child, you don't
really know what your bounds

865
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:03,800
are.
What your boundaries aren't that

866
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,300
right?
Isn't that I think that is

867
00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:07,400
exactly it.
You don't know your restriction.

868
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,500
Yeah.
And you're not it's not really

869
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:14,100
like and yes yes.
Put like an embedded into you at

870
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:16,400
that point in time you're kind
of like oh yeah, fucking

871
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,900
Superman's, a totally a real
person and right.

872
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:22,600
I thought I could be Asian if I
wanted to Too hard enough.

873
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,100
I really thought he's in women
were so beautiful and I wanted

874
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:27,800
to be Asian and I thought that
was an actual possibility.

875
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:29,600
There is none told you that you
could.

876
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,200
No one told me I could but like
there's very much nothing that

877
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,100
looks like.
I'm fucking Asian it.

878
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,600
My hair's curly as fuck like
there's no way but as a child

879
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,000
yeah you think that the world is
open and filled with

880
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,600
possibilities.
So maybe these like that, that

881
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,300
percentage of your brain that,
you know, kind of can control

882
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:49,600
that maybe it was working.
Yeah it's working.

883
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,700
It's not inhibited, the way that
it is today.

884
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,000
A pretty open to someone.
That's what I think if you want

885
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,900
to ask my opinion, I think it's
that and you had tried.

886
00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:00,500
So like when you were telling me
about this like pain because it

887
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:03,700
sounds like it's a pendulum.
So like as yes it's raining.

888
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:09,100
What color was the crystal like,
that really light white purpley

889
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:12,000
so it's like an amethyst maybe.
Yeah.

890
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:17,100
It wasn't it wasn't like vibrant
but I was like, yeah, seem like

891
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:21,400
kind of that bluish purple a
white kind of color so it's

892
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,600
hanging.
I'm a string.

893
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,600
Yes, there's no one near it.
No, there's no magnet smearing

894
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,300
it, which is like, you know,
that's probably how it could

895
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,000
happen.
It's just you and you've always

896
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,700
been trying to fuckin every time
we went and I don't remember how

897
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:39,200
many times every time is I just
know there was more than once.

898
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,000
Yeah, uh-huh.
So I mean I believe in that.

899
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,900
Hmm.
They have you heard like people

900
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:47,000
will talk about like moving
right now.

901
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,200
We have like a little candle or
like a flame, that's let so you

902
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,800
can move the flame like They
say, hey, if you want to start

903
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,200
practicing these things, you can
look at a flame in a room that

904
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,000
doesn't have like, you have to
control the.

905
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,300
And that's why I loved the fact
that this happened the way that

906
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:09,000
it did because there was
literally zero.

907
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:15,100
Are ya to push anything like
with a candle, like, who knows

908
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:16,800
where the breeze could come from
her?

909
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,900
As you don't know?
Was that me?

910
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:19,200
Yeah.
Was that mirror was that

911
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,500
actually?
Yeah.

912
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:24,800
That so Oh, but yes I and you
know, I had done that for the

913
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,100
longest time like and that
wasn't the only time that I

914
00:52:27,108 --> 00:52:29,500
tried to do that stuff.
Like I would be at home and I

915
00:52:29,508 --> 00:52:34,600
would you know, focus on the
pencil on the table or you know,

916
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,700
whatever.
Yeah guy I do.

917
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:38,900
Yeah.
I remembered trying to do that

918
00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:42,800
multiple times.
Multiple like a lot and it just

919
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,100
saw only one time it happens.
So it's almost like I wonder if

920
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,600
it's like a muscle that you can
Flex, right?

921
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:55,600
So like you know Pumping Iron
love Pumping Iron personally but

922
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,200
like you know you go to the gym
and like when you first go

923
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,000
you're like God, these five
pounds doing bicep curls, this

924
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,300
is really fucking hard but then
the more and more you go you're

925
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:09,000
you're growing your muscle and
you can pick up more.

926
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,200
What if that's really what this
is like if you continue to try

927
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,500
to practice well now that's the
other thing too.

928
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:17,300
That I I think I have fully
agree with you, that that's

929
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:20,500
exactly what it takes.
The problem is, I don't know how

930
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:23,700
to practice, like, I don't know.
Like, when I'm thinking about

931
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:25,900
moving the pencil.
Should I be thinking about

932
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:28,600
moving the pencil?
Like, what should I be down?

933
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,900
Should I be training?
It's like telling someone GO

934
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:35,000
train to wait to, I don't know,
run a marathon.

935
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,600
You're like, well, I'm not sure
what to do or trained to be a

936
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,200
weightlifter?
Well, what should I do?

937
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,300
You know, where do I start?
Where I start, like, how do I

938
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:43,800
train?
And so that's the problem that I

939
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,200
face.
I'm like Okay, well, I want to

940
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,600
levitate, I want to make my body
levitate.

941
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:51,600
How do I practice that?
Like, do I Envision it?

942
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,400
Do I, like, what am I do?
I think that like, we kind of

943
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,300
not that we're like, you know,
but we are, we're very smart and

944
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:04,900
but what if, what if part of
that is in taking some of those

945
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,300
prescriptions that you have or
like the ideas that you have

946
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:11,600
about what you're capable of and
what you're not capable of and

947
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,100
just kind of trying to go
through it with childlike,

948
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,800
Underwear.
You're like yeah, of course, I

949
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,900
can do this.
So how do you do that?

950
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,400
I don't know, meditations.
Probably a good guy that just, I

951
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,200
agree, I would fully agree with
the whole meditation.

952
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,000
We've quite convinced ourselves
and we've been educated and

953
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,300
educated the wrong word.
We've been conditioned

954
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:35,100
conditioned.
Yeah, so many ways to think so

955
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:39,300
many things and certain ways
that we'd not even conscious of,

956
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:42,400
oh yeah, absolutely mmm.
So yeah.

957
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,100
I think meditation clearing your
mind.

958
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,300
Is the definitely the start.
I totally agree with that.

959
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:52,300
I think.
Would you want to do that again?

960
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:55,000
Is that something that you'd?
Yes, I would love to do.

961
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,600
I haven't thought about it in a
very long time until I started

962
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,600
writing this episode.
It's first time I thought about

963
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:08,400
it and eons just I mean the the
ramifications of being able to

964
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,900
be open in those capacities like
It doesn't seem like it would be

965
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:15,400
a bad thing.
It seems like it could be a

966
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,600
really, really good thing.
You could be like Magneto like

967
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,500
from X-Man you know he he like
controls metal and shit like can

968
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,800
do anything.
Well like you said before any

969
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,600
anything of value can be used in
a bad way?

970
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:32,500
Yeah rice any power regardless
of what it is can be corrupted

971
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:37,800
can be good or bad and you know
what kind of you know and we

972
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,200
talked about we did talk about
this in the Gateway process.

973
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,700
But the thing that scares me He
is when you have these people

974
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:49,300
who are trying to, to hold on to
power or who are trying to

975
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:53,500
control other folks.
Like that's a really scary.

976
00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:58,500
That's a scary thought.
Like to be able to imprint ideas

977
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:03,300
onto people who are unwilling
subjects like that's bad, it's

978
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:06,600
really scary.
That is bad and if you and I've

979
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:12,700
been doing a lot of research on
on like Witchcraft and Wicca and

980
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:16,300
all that stuff and that is one
of the first four and foremost

981
00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:22,200
rules is that you it's about
intent and not doing anything

982
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,200
under anyone without anyone's
acceptance, right?

983
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:32,600
Full acceptance, that is like
rule number one, look even

984
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,300
talking about.
I mean, let's let's just get it,

985
00:56:35,300 --> 00:56:37,500
okay?
Whatever, like it's morally

986
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:39,500
wrong to do something like that,
right?

987
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,500
But Getting away from moral.
Like the moralities behind that

988
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:47,300
think about how much harder it
is to talk, just talking to

989
00:56:47,300 --> 00:56:51,700
someone using, the your words
and saying Kevin, I know your

990
00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:56,000
favorite color is, you know,
purple, your favorite color,

991
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,300
shut up.
It is.

992
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:06,600
We think about purple was
finally, I just took the other.

993
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,000
So, oh my God.
Okay, so do that.

994
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,100
It's fucking cool.
So I didn't know that.

995
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,500
Hmm.
Okay maybe I did, maybe I

996
00:57:15,508 --> 00:57:17,500
didn't, I just don't remember it
anyway.

997
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:23,200
So I see your favorite color is
purple and I tell you Kevin your

998
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,700
favorite color really needs to
be red.

999
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:29,700
You're already against the idea
of it being read in general.

1000
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:33,000
Like, for me to convince you
with words is going to be hard

1001
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,600
enough.
Let alone one having to do it

1002
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,200
till I tell Allah
telepathically, uh-huh.

1003
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,400
Who having to do it with someone
who's uninterested?

1004
00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:46,900
Yes, like that is I just feel
like you would be going it's

1005
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:51,700
Anna such an uphill battle that
requires so much energy and even

1006
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:53,200
like from this like Wiccan
perspective.

1007
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,600
It's like not only is it morally
wrong.

1008
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:57,700
It's probably just like so
fucking exhausting.

1009
00:57:57,700 --> 00:58:00,200
So I'm worth your time to do
that, right?

1010
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:06,000
Unless you were some very
powerful powerful witch matter,

1011
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:08,100
you can just do it to be all
about.

1012
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:22,500
Oh yeah who's that oppa come is
it on my card?

1013
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:25,000
Yeah you definitely did.
We're going to have to get those

1014
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,300
back up.
Up positive thigh of positive

1015
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:30,400
thought about it.
Thank you.

1016
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:33,500
I don't want to be kicked out.
No, you can't.

1017
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,000
Okay.
Well that's that's what I had.

1018
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:44,900
So I again, I wrapped up with
Just just think about how

1019
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:48,400
powerful those are our brains
are yeah.

1020
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,800
Some good advice I think is what
you just said is take a minute

1021
00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:02,000
and every day meditate and clear
your mind and just take

1022
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,200
advantage of that power that's
between your ears because I

1023
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,000
think we could do some really
cool stuff from it.

1024
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,600
If we even just use a little bit
more of our brain start flexing

1025
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,800
that muscle.
Yeah, I would love to see like

1026
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,600
maybe a little recap from you
like you.

1027
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,100
You may be having meditated
trying to see if I could do it

1028
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:24,800
again.
Yeah.

1029
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,700
Repeat that be fun.
It would be really cool.

1030
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:30,000
I'm sure we could create it.
I'm sure you have like a globe

1031
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,300
or something that we can stick
that, which I have Chris.

1032
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:37,100
Maybe that'll be a new fixture
on our table.

1033
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,000
Yes, I can start our episodes by
focusing on the, every episode.

1034
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,700
We spend just a little bit of
time, whoever's not hosting it,

1035
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,000
but we just can't move anything.
Else on the surface of the table

1036
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,500
because I was like done a couple
of times.

1037
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:55,300
Yeah, you tried to do like
moving pencils and stuff.

1038
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,000
Oh yeah, of course, I've tried
doing that.

1039
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,500
I've just I was saying I just
hit the fucking table with my

1040
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:04,700
legs around too much.
I can't sit still, this is a

1041
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:07,600
great episode.
Thanks so much for encouraging,

1042
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,700
you know, and with like the New
Year, it's like I just feel

1043
01:00:10,700 --> 01:00:15,200
like, you know, there's a lot of
possibility and and having you

1044
01:00:15,208 --> 01:00:17,200
know, positive thought and this
is a great, this is a great

1045
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,500
episode to kind of go along with
that.

1046
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:19,600
Perfect good.
Yeah.

1047
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,600
Well, thanks for joining me, as
always, of course, we'll see you

1048
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,100
soon, see you soon.