The 27 Club

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Hello, bizarre, story friends.
If you're listening right now,

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you're tuned into the bizarre
AF, where we talked about the

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strange, the Absurd, the
unknown, all things bizarre AF,

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I'm Alicia your host for today's
episode and like, always, we ask

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that you keep an open mind, keep
a skeptical ear, but keep on

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listening to the facts.
As we take you, on our newest

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Journey, the 27 Club,
Oh, hey, my co-host with the

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most across could ever ask for.
Are you Kevin?

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I was pretty pretty.
Abrupt.

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Holy shit.
Okay, guys are getting into

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this.
How are you doing?

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Bruce, I'm good.
How are you good?

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Yeah, I'm good.
I'm feeling we.

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It's been a little bit chillier
here.

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So you're looking a little rock
and roll Little Rock and Roll.

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Yeah, I got my leather jacket
on.

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Ready to talk about some Bizarre
AF shit and get a little funky

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yesterday.
So today I'm actually I'm here

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to talk about a club that has a
high cover charge Kevin.

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Uh-huh.
How do you feel about paying you

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know just a little bit to get
into I don't mind paying a

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little bit.
How much would you pay like to

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get into a hot club?
Yeah, club.

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Hmm, maybe 50 bucks?
Hmm. 50.

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Yeah, that's super know.
Like, if it was like, like I

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could probably go as high as 100
or to dip.

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If it was like, you know,
something really fancy Dancy

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like one.
If it was once in a lifetime

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thing, you know, maybe more.
Okay, A little more, a little

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bit more, okay.
But not probably not much more

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than that, okay?
So I'm gonna try to entice you,

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okay?
So if you could set the mood for

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me, just a little bit.
Oh, my play.

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Should we go into a bar?
Yeah, let's go into a bar.

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We're actually this bar is
filled with some of the most

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talented singers musicians
artists, actors models.

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You know, we're talking to Amy
Winehouse, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt

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Cobain Jean-Michel Basquiat.
Yes, Sahara Davenport.

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Yeah, Jim Morrison, Janis
Joplin, you know, the real creme

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de la ERM.
I'm making my rounds through the

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club and make your rounds.
You can be around them.

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Bumping shoulders in their
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All you have to pay.
Yes, is your life?

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But that's a little excessive.
Yeah, it's a little excessive, I

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don't know.
That, would it be worth it?

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I mean, you know, we are in the
cooler downtown area of our

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bizarre AF world.
And it's, that's where it's

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located.
I thought that, you know, we

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could maybe get down to the
bottom of it decide whether or

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not we wanted to be a part of
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Well, actually, I hate to break
it to you, Kevin, but I don't

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think that we're able to get in
Actually, was not dead.

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The ability to get her and I
said, well, well, that up among

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some other some other reasons,
but let me, I forgot to do

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though.
What about this really quick?

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Yeah, do it.
We're doing a little bit.

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Yeah, we're just meant a little
adjusting.

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When you said all, it was gonna
cost was your life.

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Should have went good.
Let's try it again.

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Okay.
So all it's going to cost you.

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Yes.
Uh-huh.

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Your life.
So you know this 27.

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They're all right, I gotta get
you back in there.

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Okay.
So um, have you heard of this

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club that we're in know?
He is very now.

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This is bizarre, it's pretty
bizarre.

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Yeah, all of those all those
Those things those people have.

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And how am I going to be in a
party with all of those people

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at the same time?
Well, I mean you could you could

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have been but I think we're well
past our prime age to get in

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here.
Yeah.

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Unfortunately this is the
problem.

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That's the problem.
That's really the problem.

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Maybe the part that's bizarre.
It's part of the part that's

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bizarre for sure.
And actually you know, this we

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can't become a part of it, but
the 27 club was actually

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initially coined in the 1970s
and was after something.

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Miss musicians, had passed away
at the age of 27.

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We're talking two years of 1969
to 1971.

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You may know some of the names,
okay?

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So these three happened like
really, really short period of

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time from each other, we have
Jimi Hendrix in 1970, okay?

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Janice Joplin 1970, Jim Morrison
1970, all of them seventy, okay,

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in 70, they all died at the age
of 27.

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So everyone so they were all 327
in 1970.

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Yes, actually.
I think one of them was 1969,

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but yes, within that short
period of time.

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I was really 1969 to 1971.
There's a couple of other people

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that aren't as well known.
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But all of them died within
those years.

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So a real 27 years old, I'm 27
years old, there those are some

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big names and they're really
ones that caused people to ask

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that question.
Like what the fuck?

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Yeah, why 27, right?
Why is it that so many talented

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people?
You know who really have a

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finger on the pulse of our
culture of the cultural

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phenomenon at that time, how
could they pass at such a young

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age under somewhat mysterious
circumstances?

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You know, when that happens and
something like this is

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occurring.
You know, it's kind of like

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where where there is smoke?
What is there?

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Hmm, hyah.
Yeah.

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By.
Ah, so you know some years went

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by the 27 club was kind of You
know, forgotten and that's until

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April 5th 1994 24 years.
After the murmurings of this

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fateful Club, it's Seattle
Washington.

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And the club has brought in its
newest member Kurt, Cobain oh he

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was also 27.
Yeah well I just 27 years old

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uh-huh.
Okay so if you live under a rock

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you know or hate music or
Domino, chiefly lifts, listen to

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fucking pokers.
You probably don't know who Kurt

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Cobain is so Kevin.
I know that you're none of those

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things.
Who can you tell us who Kurt

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Cobain?
Yes, he was part of Nirvana and

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I have to tell you I actually
had kind of crushed on him a

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little bit because he'll
actually looks like my first

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boyfriend that I really was
serious about twinsies.

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Oh my gosh you got a hot first
boyfriend so who's the lead

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singer of Nirvana?
Yeah.

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And No, Nirvana was ultimately,
you know, one of the best bands,

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biggest bands of the 1990s and,
you know, we're really going to.

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Can you hear that?
Oh my God, your Leathers

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cracking, totally cracking, that
means, it's good.

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Thanks thing.
Anyways, you know, there are

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also the best-selling, so they
were selling out Arenas.

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And, and I feel like they got,
ya popular, very, very fast.

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I feels like neck.
Think I'm sure they were doing

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all of those little Shitty gigs
and those kind of grungy bands

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were doing.
But seems like, you know, when

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once you heard them like, they
took the hell off.

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Yeah, they really took off
Smells Like Teen Spirit like

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that whole album?
Yeah, nevermind.

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I think it was called.
Yeah, big fucking huge.

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Huge.
So it, you know, the crunch Rock

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world and namely Nirvana.
They were all about the music,

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right?
Like they're kind of punk, like

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screw the system, let's make
music, that's honest, and good

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and means something and Is
people off.

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Yeah, you know,
anti-establishment people which

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I fucking love.
Right.

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But they're like you're a coder.
Yes.

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Yes, Aaron Schwartz.
Yeah.

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The the coder who was
anti-establishment like, fuck

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the system.
We're going to try to screw

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people over.
That's, you know, those grunge

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bands.
A lot of them were kind of like

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that.
They, you know, are

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anti-establishment, punk, rock.
Well, you know grunge Rock

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whatever, but but still that
idea is like be true to the

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music beat.
True to who you are and you

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know, they're not about making
bigwigs massive amounts of

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money.
Right.

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You know, playing these stadium
shows that you know, Nirvana's

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playing and selling for the
masses.

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What is that called?
It's fucking called selling out,

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dude.
Yeah, yeah.

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So it's like, you know, do you
really want to do that?

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No, that's the antithesis of,
you know, of grunge, exact Kurt

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Cobain, you know, stood for his
music.

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So, you know, I was saying is
like the biggest band in the

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world really was the Band in the
world and you find, you know,

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Kurt dead at 27 years old.
His mother, Wendy friedenberg

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Cobain O'Connor was actually
quoted in the Aberdeen,

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Washington Newspaper saying.
Now, he's gone and joined that

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stupid Club.
I told him not to join that

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stupid Club So I knew about it.
I mean, I guess in the Rock and

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I guess in the musicians world,
you know, about it, he's our, do

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you think, oh my God, could you
imagine?

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And if you're real famous and
you're like, oh God, IMA turn 27

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next year.
Mmm, like fuck and Emma is this

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is this me?
What is this?

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Doom going to happen?
Gonna befall me, like, like the

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fucking grim reapers gonna come
on in, right?

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And especially when you have
like such a talented person.

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You're like, how the hell this
person's?

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Like, on top of the world.
How is it that?

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No, he succumbs to this club,
the world's really asking it to

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make sense.
How do you make sense of it?

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How could a famous guy at the
top?

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At the top of his, his game
professionally, you know, die by

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suicide.
Because that's because everybody

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has every human can have
problems, right?

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Every human can have problems,
but it's like he, you know, the

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question is like, you know, he
got everything he wanted, right.

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So he had his fancy had
ridiculous album sales He was

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performing all over the world,
you know, being able to do what

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he loves and he's, you know,
gifted how the hell does he, you

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know, die by Suicide.
It doesn't make sense.

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Do you remember hearing about
Kurt Cobain's passing?

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Yeah, I don't remember deed, I
guess.

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I don't remember anything
specific about it.

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I remember it happening and
being completely shocked by its

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sure but I don't remember any of
the details.

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Yeah, about how it happened.
Or Any of that everyone was

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shocked.
Like they, like they literally

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were at the top of their game,
you know.

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Ultimately, I would be remiss to
say that.

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Like there aren't that.
There are a lot of theories that

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go along with Kurt Cobain's
death, but that's really not our

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topic at hand to discussing that
is not what we're talking about

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today, but I can tell you the
facts of his death.

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So Kurt was actually at his home
in Seattle, Washington on, June

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5th with a shotgun that was
purchased by his And because

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Kurt was nervous that the guns
would be would be taken by

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authorities.
So who's found dead April, a

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three days after he had killed
himself by a man that had an

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appointment to set up like
security lights at his home.

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So the fucking biggest rock star
in the world sitting alone dead

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and his house for three fucking
days.

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So he was asking someone for
firearms.

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He had he had asked a friend to
purchase a gun for him.

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Hmm.
And he had had guns in the past.

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East.
But they had been on.

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See, I know hindsight's 20/20
and it's easy, just to say

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things after the fact, but I
like you viewed, it seems like

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if you would have a famous
friend that famous musician

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asking for firearms, wouldn't
you be like, what's what?

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Yeah, what the fuck is going on?
Although it's easy to say,

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because when you have
celebrities like that asking for

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thinking, you know, we probably
don't question them, right,

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right?
Like, they're, you know, you're

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talking about like who's like,
who's someone similar today?

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Like, I don't know, Harry
Styles, or something like that.

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Harry Styles is your, you know,
friend and you're having him you

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know, ask you to buy something.
You're like people don't say no.

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Yeah.
You're like cool.

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Like you're the fucking cool.
Well, I don't know Harry.

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So I don't know if that's a
relevant like but like you have

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him like sitting there, you
know, asking you to buy

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something or like fuck?
Yeah, of course.

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I'll do that.
Yeah.

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Like, you're super cool, you
know, ultimately, you know, you

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have something that, you know,
seemingly, you know, meaningless

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like how is that?
Someone can die so suddenly

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Yeah.
And you know just really be

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plucked away from this world
it's not meaningful didn't see

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meaningful.
Maybe he was selected, you know,

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people are talking about this 27
Club, perhaps he was selected to

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become a member of it and that
in fact is our topic today.

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And yeah, so I that is
interesting soon.

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Here's so I don't want to get.
Yeah.

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Let me just say that you can
make patterns out of anything.

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Hmm.
And kind of like the other thing

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you know, when you say so But
he's always die in three.

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Yeah, the well, but there's a
lot of people in the world and

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three people that, you know,
could probably die, right?

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That's how.
I mean, I guess it's really

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weird that they're all 27.
That's a weird and random.

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It seems like it's statistically
significant right house seem

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like it, but are we trying to
just find a pattern in something

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that this is really a pattern?
I mean, that's a really good

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question.
I think when, when something

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tragic like a death that happens
to someone who's Young, And has

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like the rest of their lives,
are on top of the world, they

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have the rest their lives to,
you know, to, you know, really

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continue to make waves in the
music world, or the artistic

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world, or in the World At Large.
It seems like it's such a tragic

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loss that people are truly
trying to make sense of it.

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And I think, by saying that
their members of the 27 Club are

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saying that there is some kind
of significance behind their

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death.
I think it creates meaning.

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Yeah.
Ultimately right, yes.

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Right.
And and okay, yeah, which is

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okay.
And like in the question is, is

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like, is there actually
statistical significance?

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We'll get into that.
Okay, so so ultimately, the 27

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club didn't really have any very
well-known members that made

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waves until July 23rd 2011 and
the newest member was received

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Amy, Amy Winehouse.
Yeah, she had actually voiced

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her concerns about becoming a
member of the 27 years, three

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years earlier.
Yeah, that's what I was saying

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before.
Like, if your health is famous

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musician and you're not yet 27
and you know about it, I would

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be petrified.
Yeah, she and she was like, I

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really don't want to die.
Like those were some of our last

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words like to the last, like
recorded words to her doctor was

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like I don't want to die and
then she was found less than 24

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hours later dead, you know.
It's it was she was actually she

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Found in her bed, unresponsive
by her security guard, or her

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bodyguard that afternoon.
Like, 3:00 in the afternoon, you

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know, Amy Winehouse, Soulful
eclectic.

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I don't know what would you what
would you?

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How would you describe Amy
eclectic?

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Yeah.
Classic Soulful.

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She kind of brought Jazz back.
Yeah yeah.

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She's actually a retro pop kind
of sounds like she had her old

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soul.
Yes, totally shoot that.

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That one really hurt me.
I fucking loved.

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Amy.
My house and I still like,

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actually she was like in my top
five artists that I've listened

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to on Spotify your playback.
I just totally.

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Yeah.
So for the year, which was all

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over the charts, like, as
musically, but also in the

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tabloids right?
For her erratic Behavior.

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So when people started to look
at this 27 Club, they were

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really like you know, bringing
up the idea of this statistical

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significance, right?
All of these people are, you

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know, And they seem to be dying
there at the height of their

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career.
What the fuck is going on?

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We can look back, right?
Because, because just like you

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were saying, people are looking
back into time and saying, oh my

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gosh!
Look at all of these other

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people who have died at 27 years
old and have been huge in the

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Music Arts scene.
What the fuck is going on,

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right?
So there's actually a study done

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in 2011, December of 2011, And
right after Amy had died, right?

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She died in was it July?
So they did a study.

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In, in 2011, it was actually
published in the British medical

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journal by University academics
and they were trying to decide

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like what the fuck like is this
actually statistically

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significant.
So they studied and looked at

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every everyone who had died that
was of, you know, had had like a

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number one hits on the top or
not number one, but like a top

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100 hits.
And the UK charts and they found

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that there is really not a
significant increase in death,

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in the risk for death for
musicians at the age of 27.

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There's actually equally small
increases small increases at 27

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at ages 25 and ages 32.
So it's just as significant to

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die at 25 and 30 so you can say
the 25 caliber 30 to close right

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right now or the 27, 35 32
covers are 25 32 clever, right?

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You just add it all together.
So, you know, it really noted

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that young adult musicians have
a higher death rate than the

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general young adult population
they do.

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They are more susceptible to die
earlier.

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So, you know, ultimately, what
was what they had discovered was

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that they may increase the risk
of death among musicians, but

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this risk is not limited to age
27, you know?

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So sure it's not.
It's that there was like there.

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Note that they had.
So ultimately a 2014 article.

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The conversation actually,
suggested the statistical

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evidence shows popular.
Musicians are most likely to die

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at age 56 my God.
So it's just point because it's

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because their livers are finally
giving out right?

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All the hard hard years of like
drinking and drug use they're

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like okay now it's time for like
a stroke and death, right?

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Like you have really run and yet
you know people like Mick Jagger

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Jagger and fucking, you know,
Steven, Tyler are still rocking

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the Earth.
How the hell?

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Anyway, so 56.
So that's 22.2.

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Percent more.
Significant at 56% are 56 years

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old, compared to 1.3 percent
more like significant, like

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statistically significant to die
at 27.

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So so really, you know, maybe it
should be the 56 Club Studio.

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Sex, you know, anyways, you
know, death at 27, I think, the

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reason why it keeps on coming up
is death at 27 is not.

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It's never due to natural
causes, right, right.

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Nobody's gonna be like, oh, I
died in my sleep.

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Yeah, it's real.
Cause is right.

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And so, the list of 27 club
members is long and it very

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slightly.
So some deaths have occurred due

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to cancer, like, Jane goodie.
This was a person like a reality

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Stone show star in the UK, but
some of them are auto accidents

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and others like, you know, freak
accidents.

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Really like Anton Yelchin from
the Star Wars franchise?

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Yeah.
Live long and prosper anyway,

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but the majority are really due
to addiction and depression.

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That's why these people are
dying at 27, right?

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Like you were saying like we all
have demons yes Rivals, which

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is, that was part of the
problem, remember that quote?

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And it seems like The rich and
the famous have.

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Way easier access to that, right
to draw.

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I was gonna say, no, we're
having will get what you need

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and so fueling.
Those demons money is a little

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easier to do.
Yeah, it's way easier, right?

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It's easier because you have
such a also think about their

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schedules, right?
So they're like performing at

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night and stuff.
I don't really have like a

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normal fucking daytime scheduled
daytime job.

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It's kind of like a CD.
ER, you know, the music industry

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is a superior like place, right?
Is yeah.

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So you said remember that quote?
Yeah, that Kurt Cobain's.

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Mom had said, right?
Yes.

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Yeah, so it was now he's gone
and joined that stupid Club.

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Yeah.
Told him not to join that club.

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So people grasped onto this
hearing her say this, and that

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article and they were like,
okay, Miss Wendy has a fucking

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Smoking Gun, she knows the
truth.

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Yeah, she did, she did know the
fucking truth because Kurt

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Cobain had two uncles who died
of suicide as well.

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Her brothers died of suicide.
So she wasn't talking about some

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kind of That like only the
famous and like, you know, sexy

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rock stars become member know,
there was an issue.

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Yeah, there's an ish that you
know, it's depression that runs

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rampant in her fucking family.
That's what she was talking

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about but people read into it as
to being a different cause,

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right?
Yeah.

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So I think that, you know,
ultimately when we're talking

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about these folks like we think
that the gift and I mean really

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talented few and a generation
type folks who really change the

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culture the way that we're
moving, like I we think that

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they're Larger than Life, Life.
Right, hmm.

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They have something that we
don't, you don't have, you don't

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have.
I don't have like, we don't

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possess these things, which
causes us to think that they

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kind of have a better grasp on
on life and On The World At

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Large when really?
They're just as human as you are

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I exactly.
You know, exactly.

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So you know, I seized Palin,
talented people really have deep

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wounds like you were saying
like, you know, baggage, you

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know, issues and that affect how
they walk through life and what

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does it, what does like big Big
issues and stuff like that,

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make.
Really fucking good music.

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Exactly.
That's right.

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It's like, it gives you a
different point of view.

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Uh-huh.
That's right.

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That's right.
And the other thing is that,

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like I said, people have
everyone has demons Rich and

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famous.
It's more visible, right?

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You're living your life in front
of everybody's face, right?

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You have no privacy.
I am right?

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Exactly.
I mean, I could have 12 family

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members going through the exact
same thing, but it's just no one

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knows about it and they could
three of them could have died at

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27, right?
Yeah, it's just that like this,

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you get this visibility around
these poor people that have to

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deal with their Human Condition
in front of everybody, everyone.

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And and they don't have privacy
and they have these crazy

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fucking Schedules, you know, I
think that, you know, it makes

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wonderful music and art, but it
would really be a detriment to

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say that these people are just a
phenomenon or a statistic of the

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27 club, right there, their
normal way more, these right who

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have issues, you know, where I
was.

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We were talking about those
first three people who had

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joined the club where people are
like, what the fuck, you know,

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Jimmy Janice and Jim.
So you know she AJ.

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Did you just aah?
That's another. 27 Club cry.

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J.
They have like they have

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different ones?
Yeah.

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Triple J.
Triple J.

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Like Triple Threat.
They have like specific

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insignias when they walk into
the club.

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That's a big old Jr.'s.
Right.

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Exactly.
So, do you know how they died?

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Let's see.
Jimmy Janice.

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No you're not.
So James I just assumed it was

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all excess but maybe right.
Yeah.

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You assume because it's like the
nineteen fucking 60s and like,

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free love.
Everyone's doing drugs and shit

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because you know, Spirit
experimental, blah, blah.

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So Jimi, Hendrix.
You know, arguably one of the

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most one of the best like most
talented guitar players that has

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ever guitard, you know, he had,
he actually was plagued with we,

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I know him from that that space,
right?

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We know him as like, such an
amazing talent people still talk

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about him.
I, you know, we still listen to

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him, he's still relevant today,
you know, and he had died in

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1970.
So that's fucking crazy anyway.

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We know about his guitar playing
but he was plagued by parental

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abuse.
So he had, he was incredibly

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abused as a child.
He also had alcohol issues with

451
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:36,000
alcohol and drugs probably due
to that.

452
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,300
So he Died from asphyxiation in
the UK.

453
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:43,500
After taking a massive amount of
barbiturates actually like nine

454
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,500
times what he was supposed to
have taken.

455
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:49,600
Yeah.
So it's not like her boy to dies

456
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,600
fixation.
Yes, like yes.

457
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,400
Expectation on his own vomit.
Ultimately like not glamorous,

458
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,300
not hot, nothing cool.
Or sexy or rock, and roll about

459
00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:01,700
that.
It's just, you know, sad and too

460
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:04,200
fucking depressing.
So, but people are like, oh, so

461
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,100
it's sexy, he's sexy, he's so
talented, 27 Club.

462
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:10,400
It's like know he had his demons
that he couldn't, you know,

463
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,500
fight.
So then we have Janis Joplin,

464
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:16,200
right?
Absolute fucking Powerhouse of a

465
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,500
performer.
Like, you've heard her songs,

466
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,000
like Mercedes-Benz, like piece
of my heart.

467
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,400
Like she, I mean, she has such a
crazy awesome voice, right?

468
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,000
She struggled with self-image
and depression and she died of a

469
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,300
heroin overdose and everyone's
like sitting there.

470
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:36,500
But, you know, I was looking as
I was like, reading about these

471
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,900
I was like, oh, you know, how
did they die?

472
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:42,000
And there's always, like a
caveat.

473
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,300
Everyone always has a caveat
like, well, you know, how do you

474
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:47,500
know if she actually died from a
heroin overdose?

475
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:49,900
She was holding onto the pack of
cigarettes that she just bought.

476
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:53,600
It's like, dude, she hit like
she died of a fucking heroin

477
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,300
overdose like, you don't like,
they're like, oh, her body

478
00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:59,700
should have been crumpled in a
specific position it's like

479
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:03,500
just, okay.
So trying to add a conspiracy

480
00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:06,100
like I don't know someone's
trying to kill her.

481
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:07,600
Same thing with Jimi.
Derek's.

482
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,800
It's like no, no.
They they died and people are

483
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,600
just trying to make sense of it,
right?

484
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,400
That's exactly, right Cynthia,
and like you said before and

485
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,400
then just so happens.
I'm 27 years old.

486
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:25,600
So that adds to the Mystique,
some level of reasoning, it adds

487
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,600
to purpose and adds to yeah,
yeah, yeah.

488
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,700
It gives you a reason as to why
these things happen not just

489
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:37,100
like these massive, like, Titans
musician, type musical Titan,

490
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:41,900
Like are really fucking, you
know, fragile human beings that,

491
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:44,600
you know, took too much shit,
right?

492
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:49,800
So Jim Morrison, mmm.
You look up his death today and

493
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,000
it says, heart failure.
Okay, or a heart attack, that's

494
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,500
what it says.
Oh, he died of a heart attack or

495
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:58,600
heart failure at 27 bullshit
because of too much coke.

496
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,300
Right?
Exactly.

497
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:02,500
That's that's one way to look at
it right.

498
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,300
There was never an autopsy done.
You know, he actually was

499
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:08,400
actually believed to have been A
drug overdose.

500
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,000
That was kind of covered up at
the time and called a heart

501
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,400
attack.
They never did an autopsy.

502
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,100
They never did anything there.
They just laid him to rest.

503
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:21,400
And that's weird though.
I mean once again if you sit

504
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,100
there like especially at that
time, like you know how even

505
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,500
today we have like celebrities
were like, oh, they're just

506
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:32,200
tired or like they're going to.
They need some rest and really

507
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,300
rest is like fucking rehab,
right?

508
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:40,100
So it's like, it's not so.
Far removed from today.

509
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,400
Let's try not to get us off
topic.

510
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,500
Yeah, go ahead.
That's just proves.

511
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:49,600
That's in the other thing.
I, if someone in my family, died

512
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,700
of a heart attack, unless they
definitely knew that for some

513
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:58,400
way they would autopsy right,
but because you're rich and

514
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,600
famous somehow, you grease The
Palms or something.

515
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,800
Yeah.
You know, you get this Escape.

516
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,100
All that kind of stuff.
Yeah, you get to cover it up.

517
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,500
It up like same thing, like so
Amy Winehouse, like she her

518
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:16,200
death, was she overdosed on?
Like, she had like one she was a

519
00:29:16,208 --> 00:29:20,500
bulimic.
So she had been sober for a

520
00:29:20,508 --> 00:29:22,700
period of time and then started
drinking again and really

521
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:24,300
drinking was like her issue but
she's done.

522
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,200
Like she had done heroin.
She did everything.

523
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,400
Okay?
Yeah, it's awful.

524
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,300
She was so talented.
But yeah, she had all these

525
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:32,600
fucking problems and her
grandmother died, which was like

526
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,100
brilliant.
Matriarch, really, very

527
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:35,200
important.
Person in her family.

528
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,900
She never dealt with that.
Among other things but she, you

529
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:44,500
know, started drinking and was
drinking like fucking handles of

530
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:48,200
vodka and she weighed like,
maybe a hundred pounds, you

531
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,000
know?
So it's like, she died of an

532
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,100
alkyl.
A, this is why these delivers?

533
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,400
Hell yeah, yes, and it's like
her liver.

534
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,900
Yeah, she was done, it was done.
So she maybe if she would have

535
00:29:58,908 --> 00:30:02,300
been, you know, not bulimic, she
could have survived but her body

536
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:05,100
was fucking week.
You know, you all of these

537
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,100
people really struggled with
addiction.

538
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,800
Same, you know, stardom and
their their own demons in their

539
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,800
lives.
So one thing that I really want

540
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:19,700
to make a parent in this is that
the 27 Club is not something to

541
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:23,400
Aspire to be a part of, right.
Like we start out like there's

542
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,100
no way that we could be a part
of it, right?

543
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:27,900
But want to.
Yeah we don't want to it's not

544
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:31,800
sexy or glamorous, right?
Like it's you know lonely and it

545
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,300
lacks hope.
And here's my soapbox, okay,

546
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,200
okay.
If Or someone, you know, are

547
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,800
going down that road fucking
talk to someone talk to anyone.

548
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,000
You know, it's just not worth it
and you're certainly not alone.

549
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,100
Well actually have sources in
our show notes wherever you're

550
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:51,300
currently listening and also on
our website at the bazaar EF

551
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:57,700
www.the by the RAF.com.
So yeah that's that's the 27

552
00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:59,200
Club.
Great pocket.

553
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,500
We don't want to be a part of
it.

554
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,200
So do you have?
So we'll, we'll need to put in

555
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,200
the show notes a list?
Yes, of the names.

556
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,000
That would be fair.
Fascinating.

557
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,200
So it's actually yeah, it is in
our show notes.

558
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,400
It's in the Wikipedia article,
if you scroll down, you can see

559
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,500
everyone.
And what's interesting is that,

560
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:20,900
of course, once the 27 Club, you
know, had been coined or Turner

561
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:24,700
like I deemed a club, then
people started going back into

562
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:28,800
history and say, oh, this person
would died at 2700 this person.

563
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,300
It's like, okay, well you're
going back in time and Marie

564
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:34,900
fucking writing history.
Ultimately but, and then again,

565
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:39,500
I don't I Hate to be the guy
that's glass half empty.

566
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,200
But you can, you can make a 33
club and if you could buy of

567
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,700
Club at a 3850 fucking 452 Club,
apparently, right?

568
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:48,900
Like, that's R56 whatever
fucking agent is.

569
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,000
Like, that's more statistically
significant.

570
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,700
Think, like you said, if it
gives you some sort of a comfort

571
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:58,200
as to a reason or whatever then
that's okay, that's okay.

572
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Yeah, that's fine.
But also know that these people

573
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,100
were struggling with demons and
like we all have fucking demons.

574
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:09,800
We all have like shit that We
are dealing with and there is no

575
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:15,000
reason to, you know, to drown
ourselves as although, it might

576
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,600
be fun and look glamorous
initially like there's no reason

577
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,200
to go down that road.
There's help.

578
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,600
And even if you can't afford,
you know, help or whatever, like

579
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,600
they're fucking 1-800 numbers.
Like, talk to a friend or, you

580
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,900
know, I don't know, Tommy just
said, the new 811, right?

581
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:32,700
Yeah.
Yeah, uh-huh.

582
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,400
Yeah, there are there's so many
like so some of the resources

583
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800
that we have Also Amy Winehouse
Foundation.

584
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,500
If you're located in the UK,
they actually do a lot of work

585
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:45,900
with young people who are
struggling with addiction and

586
00:32:45,908 --> 00:32:48,600
depression.
Well, and yeah, young people in

587
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,600
general, like, in their 20s and
stuff like that.

588
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,200
So, you know, there are
foundations.

589
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,000
There are resources for help,
it's just so calm.

590
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,800
It seems like it's way more.
So, that's the other thing.

591
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Mmm, like why, why is mental
health such a problem now, I

592
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,700
mean, dude, I got another
patient, I I'm in therapy.

593
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:09,700
I am proud a proud.
Like therapy goer every other

594
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:11,600
week.
Shout out to Lisa.

595
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,800
Hey Lisa, you know my therapist
is awesome.

596
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,700
I, you know, I have someone that
I can talk to that, you know, is

597
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:23,800
I think, you know, I'm pretty
well-adjusted but I have some

598
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,200
fucked-up shit.
My background, you know, I'm a

599
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,100
fucked-up person in general.
But, you know, I'm trying to be

600
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:32,400
better every day and it's
admitting, it's admitting that

601
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,200
like none of us are perfect.
We all have skeletons in our

602
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,200
closet.
That the, you know, they're

603
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,500
never going to leave, right?
So, how the fuck do you learn,

604
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,500
how to deal with them?
And that's what therapy and

605
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:46,700
talking to your friends and
having a support system and

606
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:49,400
figuring out a support system?
That's why those things are so

607
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,500
relevant.
These people didn't have that,

608
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:52,500
right?
Mmm.

609
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:55,600
Because they wouldn't be like,
overdosing on fucking heroin.

610
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:58,300
If they did.
Like if they had if they had the

611
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:01,300
resources or sought it out you
know, maybe they'd still be

612
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:04,500
alive today.
Yeah, and it's important.

613
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,700
It shouldn't be a stigma.
There should be no Stigma

614
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:07,800
person.
Not right.

615
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,900
Like hey, you want to talk to
talk to us, send it, go on our

616
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:13,000
fucking website, like send a
fucking message, and be like,

617
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,300
hey, I'm fuck this shit, won't
send you a message back and be

618
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:20,300
like, yeah, fuck this shit.
You know, you're not alone.

619
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,500
It's just it's not, it's not
worth it at all.

620
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:28,600
To, to feel like you, you know,
don't have any other, you know,

621
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,699
options in life because there
are other options, right?

622
00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:34,000
Are in your you've gone to
therapy to, right?

623
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,600
I've never gone.
Had a therapy session shut up.

624
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,699
Matt.
Oh my god, with that could be.

625
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:42,100
That could be like a fucking
topic and that's okay.

626
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:45,100
I blame it on preservatives
preservatives.

627
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:50,199
Yes, what's oh, it's fucked.
People up over the last 100

628
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,500
years.
Oh, so that's why we need.

629
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,400
Don't you think that like it's
always been there.

630
00:34:55,500 --> 00:35:00,900
There's an answer until hell.
I mean, I think all of this fake

631
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:02,500
shit, that we put into our
bodies.

632
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:04,300
God, this is blame it on
preservatives.

633
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:08,800
This is a future talk.
I definitely think it's a future

634
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,000
topic.
I do.

635
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,700
And, you know, I think this is
like I'm happy that we talked

636
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:15,600
about the 27 club today because
I do think it's very important

637
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:18,900
and maybe you don't need therapy
necessarily but maybe, you know,

638
00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:22,500
you have fun.
Some everyone needs.

639
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,700
Everyone needs.
We are human being, we're human

640
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:27,900
beings.
We're not meant to be alone and

641
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:32,900
we are meant to be together and
it's important to get help some,

642
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:35,200
if you need help, whatever it
may be.

643
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Yes, absolutely.
And talking.

644
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,200
As dumb as it seems like just
talking something out.

645
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:43,000
It helps for some weird dumb
reason.

646
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,100
It totally feels like it's
bullshit.

647
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:48,000
But actually, it's not and like
sometimes it takes like a little

648
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,300
bit of the burden that you're
feeling that you're carrying

649
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:52,200
with a carrying along every
single day.

650
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,800
It takes a little bit of that
often.

651
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,600
There's no knowing someone
knows, you knowing that someone

652
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,900
is there to kind of guide you
and support you and understand

653
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:03,100
you and see you.
Yeah.

654
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:05,200
That mean that's something it's
definitely something.

655
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,300
Well, thanks, The 20s.
It's weird.

656
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,400
So, we'll have to say it's dude,
weird.

657
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,700
Yeah.
It's very bizarre.

658
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,800
It's bizarre and so many aspects
and also wonder did they pick

659
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,300
the?
Did it become to be?

660
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:20,000
Just because those three
happened to start it because

661
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,800
that's when it started, right?
As when those three died, I

662
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,900
think that it was really
because, you know, you have Jim

663
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:27,800
Morrison of The Doors, like he
was.

664
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,800
There were fucking huge, right?
Yeah.

665
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:33,100
Jimi Hendrix fucking huge,
right?

666
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:36,300
You know, Janis Joplin huge mass
of.

667
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:38,900
These were men.
Of stars and they almost died.

668
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,000
Um, someone clicked him together
and like, oh my God, they all

669
00:36:41,008 --> 00:36:43,200
three dead.
Hey they're all 27, all 27.

670
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,700
Like what is it?
Maybe it has nothing to do with

671
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:47,400
the amassing amounts of fucking
drugs.

672
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,900
Everyone's dance festivals.
It has everything to do with

673
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:52,500
about a 27.
Yeah, yeah.

674
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:55,200
I mean, it's just trying to make
sense of something that, you

675
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,900
know, trying to make sense of
this world, right?

676
00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:59,900
So what it is and there's
nothing wrong with trying to

677
00:36:59,908 --> 00:37:02,500
figure that out.
But ultimately all these people

678
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:05,500
had fucking demons.
They're not perfect right for

679
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:08,000
sure, but they're cool.
But Like, you can be cool and

680
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000
also have Demons, of course.
Look at me.

681
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,400
I mean, exactly.
We're in the presence of fucking

682
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,100
Kevin right now.
Yeah, thank you for giving me an

683
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:19,400
excuse to wear massive amounts
of eyeliner.

684
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,600
Yes.
Oh my gosh, I you know what we

685
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,900
could have done like that, like
smokey eyes, like, really smoked

686
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:28,100
out.
I tried to make it like, almost

687
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,100
a me because Amy is my girl.
I do.

688
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:31,800
I like, the little wing on your
eyeball.

689
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,900
I should have done it way.
More extreme could have, like,

690
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:36,100
the like poop.
Yes, I wanted to do that.

691
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:40,000
But you know, No TMI.
We are going to be recording

692
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,400
another podcast, I so I
couldn't.

693
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,100
Well, that's the thing.
I'm have to watch this.

694
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:48,200
Yes.
Apply for the next one, I think.

695
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Yeah, for sure.
Well, thanks for the topic.

696
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,400
Thank you.
Boom.

697
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,700
Okay, you too and we'll see you
in the next episode.

698
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:57,300
On the flip side.
Okay.

699
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,900
Breathe.