Skinwalker Ranch

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Hello to all our bigs RAF.
They call me Kevin they called

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me Alicia.
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In today's episode, we're going
to chat about the most And

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typically studied paranormal hot
spot on the planet by Walker

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ranch ranch, ranch, ranch
Skywalker, mhm, Skinwalker God,

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that's a different thing.
Skywalker Ranch is that, um,

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what's his douche?
Wait, whose Skywalker?

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Oh yeah, that's Star Wars Star,
Trek fan.

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So listen as the famous,
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Check off said we declare,
frankly, that nothing is clear

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in this world, Only Fools and
charlatans know and understand

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everything.
So, keep an open mind, keep a

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skeptical here, but keep
listening to the facts.

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As we take you on our newest
Journey.

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So Alicia have you heard of
Skinwalker Ranch before?

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You know what?
I actually I have.

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Yeah, I've heard of a Skinwalker
Ranch.

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I am.
I'll be honest.

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I'm a sissy.
I'm totally with.

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Like I get scared of almost
everything.

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No dude.
I totally do.

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I like to believe that I'm like
more than than what I actually

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am, but I'm just not, I'm just,
I'm just a wimp.

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Oh, and Skinwalker Ranch the
stories behind it, really Freak

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me out.
Well we are going to dive into

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that and you know as I mentioned
it is recognized as the most

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scientifically studied
paranormal hot spot on the

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planet and yeah you know it is
surrounded by the Ute tribal

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properties and we're going to
get into why that is

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significant.
Oh my God in just a moment.

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Oh I'm nervous.
Well the Skinwalker Ranch is a

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512 acre.
Secure site that has been

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monitored and For decades and it
is completely secured, their

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surveillance, 24/7 365, and it
is a remote location that has

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been involved in a pentagon
funded black budget project.

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Okay, so you're saying black
budget, I'm in.

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That's all you need to say
honestly, black budget done so

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they have been studying UFO
activities.

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Tell me relations, strange
phenomenon and it is also known

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as a living laboratory for
studying other intelligence and

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possible inter dimensional
phenomenon.

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Oh my God.
I mean, so here's here's the

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thing.
When you get into like

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interdimensional phenomenon, it
really freaks me the fuck out

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because that is the unknown.
Yeah, it's like, okay, what can

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I control?
Mmm.

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Nothing real.
I mean, let's be honest, I can't

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control anything.
I just think I can, and that's

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exactly.
And then I'm always pleasantly

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surprised that I just can't.
I'm caught my egos probably

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shattered, but I, but but it's
inner Channel, That's I mean,

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it's because things can't be
explained.

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They can be explained.
Cannot not yet, be explained.

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So let's get started with our
adventure.

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I'm here.
Okay, I'm here for the ride,

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perfect and to do that, we're
going to have to travel back

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into time, just a smidge.
Okay, 100 years or so.

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I think I can do that kite.
So in 1911, And possibly before,

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not a lot of documentation.
Okay, newspaper reports of

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Rumblings strange noises from
this location.

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Homesteaders that lived in this
site reporting.

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Unexplained phenomenon.
Weird, like furry creatures

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unnatural creatures?
Yes, things.

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They can't.
They've seen they can't explain,

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right?
And you can imagine this is

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Little House on the Prairie
style.

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Yeah, exactly.
Imagine 1911 people don't know

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stuff?
No, no, no.

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You don't know any no today.
Can't communicate with people

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other people quickly, for sure.
So things you don't know.

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You don't.
I mean you don't know a lot.

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Yeah.
Okay, so now we are knowledge.

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He's not a thing, right?
Yeah. 1937 Skinwalker Ranch is

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purchased by the Myers family.
1947 the Myers family, they

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actually add more land to their
property.

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Okay.
Another like eighty three acres

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so now they're up to 512 Acres
okay, 1979 by this time, a lot

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of UFO activity happening there
report people.

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The were the farm.
This land are reporting a lot of

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medical.
All events traumas.

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Oh like they're having like
medical issues medical issues,

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because perception altering
issues, God, nausea, temporary

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pain, paralysis vertigo, like
things are.

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These they couldn't explain.
Yeah sure.

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Flash Forward 1992.
The ranch is sold and purchased

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by the schurmann family and this
family reports.

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A lot of things they saw that
they are witnessing a lot of

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things.
Yes, and more disturbing thing.

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Okay, then previously a lot of a
lot more UFO activity a lot of

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malevolent influences cattle
mutilations like gets Eating

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more so serious.
So it's still the same stuff

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that was happening back in like
1911, but now, it is opt, opt

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like there's more activity and
it's becoming more.

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Exactly - yes and I think
they're becoming more aware of

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it.
Reporting it more.

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Because it's just becoming more
obvious anything.

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Yeah.
And and these and in a lot of

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these things are daylight
events.

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Hmm.
Oh, during the day, they're not

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coming back and then seeing
these cattle on like, oh,

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they're fucked up.
Exactly.

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It's seeing the cattle in the
morning.

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Then you see the same cattle in
the afternoon.

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Completely completely wide.
Well, like for example they'll

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see a cattle drained of blood
drained, 0 blood around them,

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zero blood on them.
No visible signs of like a cut.

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I okay, I have a question.
Yeah.

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These like they didn't have
like, were these were the actual

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like Calves.
Did they have?

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Like, I don't know.
Like some kind of medical issue.

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Like was was there a genetic
defect like right passed down?

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Like yeah, yeah, so since these
cattle have been on the Range or

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whatever, the ranch, I'm nice.
I'm a city, girl.

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I'm a city girl.
I don't really know shit.

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But These like the cattle like
been procreating and then they

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had like like some mutant like
disease think the Royals you

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know how old I get it.
Fine.

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Yeah, did they have it?
How does that explain?

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No blood Right?
Yeah, yeah you right.

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That's the weird part.
That's it was like, okay, so

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okay.
So there was like, no, the blood

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was just gone.
There wasn't a cut it was

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exactly.
Well right well some with their

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cut knows, it will.
Sometimes there was like a

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decapitations for example, okay,
decapitations precision.

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Decapitations.
Okay, like no some marks and

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like imagine a laser go and like
perfectly cut.

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Through the spine like like like
you couldn't just like go out

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there and cut off a cow's head
like that would be obvious now

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and no blood.
Yeah there's no blood no but

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that's that's really the
problem.

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Like even if you did have all
the tools necessary like

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precisely and this is happening.
It's like 25% of their herd.

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Oh yes.
It's that's a that's a lot and

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they own acres and Acres.
So it's 512 by this time.

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Yeah, it's not like you can be
like, okay well word.

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They're just down the street.
Grab it.

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Put it on a gurney and like
carry it over God.

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I don't know.
Like some plastic like you've

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seen Dexter.
Exactly.

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Yeah.
Kill room.

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Wow.
Yeah there was nothing like

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that.
Good God.

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Okay.
Okay so now we're in 1996 and so

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the schurmann family this was
led by a billionaire and his

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name was Robert Bigelow.
He acquires the property from

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them, and he starts to do this,
unprecedented level of research

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on this Ranch.
So, he knew that there are

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something up, he did, he did,
well, because they had been

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reporting it.
And so, he came in with this

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team called knids and ideas, and
it's the National Institute for

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Discovery Science, and it was
privately funded and his staff

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by like eight people and Senior,
some of them were part-time

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summer.
A full-time and we're talking

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PhD people scientists and
investigators F.

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You know, former FBI security.
I mean, they were, I mean, they

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credential people totally.
And so, this was their focus up

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until about 2002.
Okay?

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Okay.
Well, in nineteen back to 1996,

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there's this guy named James
Randi and he was the token.

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He was the token naysayer of of
likewise going, just paranormal

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normal and in general.
And so he had his own opinions

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about Robert and his Endeavor.
So what he's like he's like a

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reporter who like a fool.
Yeah, he's talking opinion.

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Totally like we all know our
Randy.

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Yeah, we all know.
Randy.

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Yeah I can suck exactly.
I'm so he so he Awards them.

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This is what he calls this
Pegasus.

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Award and it sounds amazing.
Yeah, you know I love I love.

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Pegasus pegasi Mega side.
No, no.

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So he gives them this award for
funding the purchase of the

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ranch and for supporting these
investigations.

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Right?
But he calls this award, the

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funding organization that
supported the most useless study

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of the supernatural paranormal
or a cult.

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That was the Pegasus He's a deck
day back.

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Oh my God, open your mind, boo.
Okay, I'll be honest too.

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Okay, there's one thing about
being a cynic, right?

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You can be a cynic, whatever you
have something to say.

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Of course, you create a fucking
Award, right?

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Roll.
Someone rude.

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I mean, the dedication calm
down.

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He should, I don't know, maybe
put that towards other things.

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Other aspects of his life, like,
happiness.

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Call me crazy.
Call me f down.

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Yeah, come on.
Down.

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Dude, chill the fuck out.
So then there's this into their

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author, called Robert Shaffer
and according to him.

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The phenomenon as Skywalker is
almost certainly illusionary.

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Not only was the several
year-long monitoring of

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Skinwalker by knids.
Unable, to obtain proof of

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anything unusual happening, he
says.

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But also the people Who owned
the property prior to the

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Sherman's, a family, whose
members lived there for 60

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years, deny, that any mysterious
phenomenon of any kind occurred

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there.
Well, so he's talking about the

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original owners prior to the
Sherman's, so I go back to my

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notes 1911.
Yeah, the 1911 peeps.

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Looks yeah, right.
Who we just talked about, they

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don't know Adam from Adam, sure,
you know what I mean?

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And so don't, so don't say that
they didn't report or know

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anything one to know what to
know, they didn't, they didn't

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know what, they didn't know.
But also, you know, you think

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about that time.
Like, how honestly, like, how

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could you feel like, like people
weren't going to put you in an

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insane asylum.
You're like, hey, look, this

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weird that's happening called a,
which, I mean, right, right.

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Like, like God forbid, you're
like, just trying to make ends

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meet.
You have this cattle, like you

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don't want to, like, Rock the
Boat.

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Boat and it's a small community.
Exactly.

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Yeah.
You don't want to be called a

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wet bar called, whatever and
move being moved to fucking who

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wherever an insane.
Asylum example thought, ya know

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these people are you're going to
take take advantage of it, like

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their land or whatever.
Like yeah, no, I know.

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I know it's make any sense.
No way, no way.

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Okay, so.
So now we're going to flash for

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so So, he so Sherman, the
schurmann family own the ranch,

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right?
Okay.

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So now we're going to flash
forward to 2008, okay?

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And the read the research team
they transition from the knids,

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as I said, and ideas to Bass and
this is called the Bigelow

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Aerospace.
Advanced space studies bass, be

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aass, okay?
And now Advanced space studies,

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okay.
Okay.

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Okay.
Now you're like wait what's very

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different from Cal different
now?

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It's funded by the US
government.

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Are you fucking kidding me?
Things and making it for real?

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Yeah.
So it's funded in 2008 now it's

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funded by bass which is the US
government doing with the gun

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working with him.
Yes.

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This new owner and the
government, okay?

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This is fucking getting juicy us
for sure.

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Getting sauce Okay, so it was
very aggressive study and now

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we're being.
Now, we've got about 55 to 60

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people on the ranch anywhere
from Engineers to Intelligence,

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Officers to security to folks
who are really, who know who

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know how to like conduct an
experiment.

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Deborah wearing a matching,
yeah, bring in a man.

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Why?
Million-dollar question.

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What did that is know?
What was like?

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They were like, okay, now we're
getting involved.

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What is happening?
These cattle, mutilations are

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something to it, seems getting,
yeah, someone's like raising

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their years ago, your key study
it.

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So now we're in 2013 and over,
there's well over 500 anomalies

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being reported over well over
150 witnesses that have been

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recorded as being impacted.
David and all of this

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information is in this best
database.

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This be a SS database.
Okay.

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It's the government's involved.
So it's not like they're sharing

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this information.
Sure.

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Okay.
To this very day, those people

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who were at facility of a part
of those 150, they refuse, we

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refuse to go back to that land.
They will not step foot on that

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land.
That's some real fucking trauma.

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Toto.
Something real happened to them.

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Like these are Scientists people
who are investigating lie and

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they're choosing, they're
saying, I see what I was getting

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into.
I knew what I was getting into,

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I was going to study this,
that's right, whatever the fuck

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happened happened in a very real
way and I do not feel safe.

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I'm never going to enter this
space again and that is the key.

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They said, I do not feel safe,
not going back, I'm not going

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back there.
Sure.

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And your exact, to your These
are logical scientific people.

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Who knew what they were getting
into.

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Some kind of weird like,
strange.

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Exactly.
Who like, who fucking okay?

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You said over how many 150, 150,
people who are on the

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government's payroll?
Yeah.

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So there were there were there
about 55 or 60 people on

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government's payroll but at this
point there's well over 150

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people documented impacted.
What the fuck did they see?

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Okay.
Gave them yes it's fucked up

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like Viewpoint yes that's this
is what we're not normal.

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Not normal, none.
I know I'm a wimp but like yeah

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if these people are like oh I
want to see the shit and like

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they're clearly not like uh-huh.
Whatever it is that they're

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seeing, has surpassed their
bullshit meter.

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Uh-huh.
It's whether like, okay

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realness, not going back.
Yeah, this is like, this is like

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it's gone past that level where
I'm comfortable, I Ooh, there

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are some weird shit, right?
But like, what was it right that

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made them not want to come back
onto the land?

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So let's talk.
We have a specific, we do have

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some oh, great, perfect.
So, in 2016, a guy named Brandon

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Fogle.
He purchased the ranch from

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Robert Bigelow.
Okay?

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Okay, because he wanted to
investigate and explain This

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crazy bizarre stuff, but he
bought the ranch under a shell

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Corporation because he wanted to
keep secret.

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You want to keep an eye on him
as he didn't want to be a big

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deal about who owned it or who
he was, he was here is really

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cared about understanding.
What was happening.

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Phenomenon phenomenon itself?
Yes, he just wanted to study it.

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That's right.
I did want to make money off of

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it.
He didn't want to do anything.

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You just wanted to buy it.
Research it and understand it.

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How much do you know how much he
I do not know how much he bought

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it for which I think is an
interesting question, but

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Brandon Vogel, Is a very
prominent businessman, he's a

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newer, he's a real estate
broker.

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He, I mean, he was working with
Coldwell Bankers, he was

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founding, he was Finding
founding their commercial

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advisory leader, he was not
recognized over like, 220

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offices.
As the premier guy, I mean, he's

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big.
Yeah guy, there's a lot of very

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successful.
He was supporting technique, he

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loves technology, so he was
supporting be startups, very

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successful, very wealthy.
Which gave him the resources

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that he needed to kind of get
into this, put into that, soda

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into it.
What does background ass?

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I mean, I know that he was a
businessman but like, well, here

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the fuck do you come into?
So he was born in Salt Lake

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City, and very religious family.
So you need I say more, ya know,

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like he's not much caffeine
caffeine is not spending money

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on Starbucks, no five dollar or
All right, he's not imbibing

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like we are.
Cheers.

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Hey, cheers, bitches!
You need a fucking drink for

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this one.
Goddamn So he has none of these.

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So he's taking all the money,
right?

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Yeah, I mean he's a very
successful businessman and he

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wants to use his resources is
technology, his business.

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His money to really truly
understand this and he said

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that, that his religion actually
is what drove him to really try

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to understand the bigger meaning
of life and what was really out

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there.
Okay.

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So his religion was the driving
force.

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So he thought he'd find God in
this thing.

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That's it.
Question, maybe, maybe or or the

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lack of either way?
It's like I support that I

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totally understand where he's
coming from, right?

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Use your use your resources to
to now, to and honestly, like

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being lazy.
Let's, let's be honest, like, I

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want to fuck.
I want to know what you're going

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to find out.
You're going to put the money

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towards it.
Yeah, sure.

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Fine, cool.
Like, yeah, I'm curious.

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Huh, exactly.
Wow, exactly.

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All right.
So, and now it's now 28.

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Team, hm.
And this is about a couple of

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years after he purchased the
ranch.

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His team captures 500-foot span
of the Mesa that runs through

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his property.
Illuminated.

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Like the mesas.
Are illuminated.

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You there's video of this you
can see them illuminated, okay.

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A couple questions?
Yeah, a lot of questions.

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I have a owner.
Yeah, I have a lot of questions.

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Okay, so I guess the first one
would be Illuminated illuminated

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as in like there's glowing like
literally glowing.

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Everything's glowing glowing.
Okay.

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And it's just this one little
span.

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Okay, I'm gonna draw from a
natural like perspective.

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Okay, you go to different
places.

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Like Puerto Rico, has
bioluminescent Bay's, right?

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Oh yeah.
You can see Aunt.

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I think there's plants and
creatures.

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Yeah.
But like why?

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Stop during like a spawning
season.

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Yeah, totally makes sense.
Yeah, so This bioluminescence,

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how do we know that there's not
some kind of chemical compound?

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That's like, that's like, like,
lighting up during a specific

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time of the year, is it happen?
Consistently like, is this

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something that is only happening
once a year?

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And it's like a spawning or
mating season that they.

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So, it does not happen.
Consistently this, not like a

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rhythm or a season or a Time.
But it's dirt and rock.

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Yeah, they do another bomb
plant, they're setting the

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compounds, right?
Exactly.

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There's so many people, studying
so many, you know, you have, you

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have the astrologist hitting the
sky, you have the what are the

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The Rock people?
Like?

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What are the Rocks?
Geology jealous.

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Just so you've got all of that
being studied.

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So they've kind of ruled that
out.

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Okay. okay, but there's more to
the light thing because not only

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is the Mesa glowing.
Hmm, there are pillars of light

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shooting out from the ground up
into the sky and we know that's

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going upwards because the lower
portion of the clouds are

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glowing Right?
So, you know, it's coming out,

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it's coming like, what's the Las
Vegas place?

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The Luxor the Luxor.
So imagine that because column

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of, it's like, a column of
light.

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Yeah.
And the other search light.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Well, I mean, you can see video
of it.

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It's like random.
Where do you see it at?

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Where is it on out of the Mesa?
No, but I mean, like, can we

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find on YouTube early?
Yes, where is it?

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Yes, on YouTube.
Yes, yes, just random.

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Random.
Well, you can so Skinwalker

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Ranch has their own website and
you can go to their video and

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you can see, you know, the
little okay, you're like you

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have to subscribe 99, holy you
haven't subscribed to see the

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good shit, but they do have the
freebie stop question.

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Okay, did you subscribe to see
the no?

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No, I wasn't about to subscribe.
It's the second pot.

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I mean, I care but I don't care.
Don't care 2999 words.

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Yeah, no, totally plus shipping
and handling, not one.

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But you can see, you can see the
glow, you can see the call scuse

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me, you can see the columns like
rising up.

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There's nothing that we can
actually now.

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Okay, this is now.
It's unexplainable, fuck, it's

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unexplainable.
Okay, so just leave it at that

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Alicia cleanable.
Okay, okay, done.

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So they're also see large,
luminescent glowing things,

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flying above the maze
disappearing into the Mesa over

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the Mesa.
What so you could, you know how

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I we always joke about the
flying dust orb.

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Yeah, yeah, the flying dust or
but like is it actually like the

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size of a flying dust or a bug
in it?

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No, it's a size of Something
much brain big yes but they know

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it's not a plane just because
they're measuring size speed,

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boo, boo blue.
They go to the flight logs of

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the FAA, they know that there
was nothing in the area and you

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have to say I guess you have to
see the videos to really

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appreciate where, okay Oddity
like the the shape of it.

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Well yeah.
That's is it like like what does

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it look like?
Is it is the shape is a shape

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like like a like a Cessna plane?
Is it like like a Boeing nose,

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like a circle?
You're saying like it's like a

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Tic Tac?
No.

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No it's not like a Tic Tac or
I'm saying that because like

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they say, no you've had it.
Yes I've seen them know.

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This is like a literal like a
literal circle like an orb like

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I could look at but look at that
store of, that's just like

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chasing after your cousin or
whatever.

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Yes and some of them I'm gonna
I'm not gonna lie it some of

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them watch them.
Like that's a bug really?

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There's a boy.
Bug.

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Like it's a bug on like a
camera.

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Yeah, you know, when they do the
like the night vision and you

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like you see this thing flying
like okay, it's a bug.

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Okay.
But it's so perfectly round and

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it doesn't like flutter.
Okay, they have just like really

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round moths.
So okay, so there's a whole tons

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of Shape.
And so what they say is that

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every time they bring someone on
the ranch that's new, The ranch

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behaves differently.
Okay, okay.

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One, yes.
I'm just no file.

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No, yes, no.
Okay.

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Kevin, I'm gonna file that back
and into my mind and not be so

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freaked out that I can't sleep.
But okay, let's say, I like you

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and I go onto the ranch.
Yes.

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It's going to have brand-new
things read like thing.

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We've never seen that, they've
never seen.

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They've never seen.
Because you and I come on to the

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hmm. like not just light, like
totally different, could be

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Poltergeist, it could be a
sound, it could be a Dust or but

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00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,800
it'd be a little green man.
Well they've never seen those

457
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,500
odd.
I would fucking die.

458
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:08,600
I've never seen a man be so
scared, but but it's like we're

459
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:13,000
never not seen before.
So it's like constantly upping

460
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,800
the ante like someone someone
coming in.

461
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Yeah and it's like trying to get
a reaction from a bee.

462
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,200
So, maybe it's like, hey, your
new.

463
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,100
I'm gonna, I want that attention
to this thing.

464
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,700
Hey, pay attention to me.
Hey CeCe.

465
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:31,600
What I'm like, a dog.
Like, when I come into your

466
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,500
house?
Yeah, and they do not and your

467
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,800
little adorable dogs.
Go nuts.

468
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,800
They both of them.
They want the attention and they

469
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,700
want to see what you're doing,
who you are.

470
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:48,800
So it's almost like reactionary.
It seems like what and what if

471
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:59,400
it's Or what if?
Yeah, it's hey I'm going to try

472
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,800
this with you and see if you
understand me now.

473
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:09,700
Oh, it's trying to communicate.
Yeah, I can see I could see

474
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:11,400
that.
Like, maybe this is the person I

475
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,500
can communicate with Ryan.
So it tries to think different

476
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:19,700
things with different people.
I mean the the prop the thing

477
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:22,200
that I have a question with is
like if they've been studying it

478
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,600
for so long and also here's the
fucking thing, the huge like

479
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,400
question mark that I have in
this fuckin sky is why is it

480
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,200
that the government stepped
away?

481
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:38,400
I think that's a very good
question.

482
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,200
Like what brought you in?
What took you out?

483
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800
Yeah, good because if the
government was studying

484
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,900
something and putting funds
behind it, what the fuck did

485
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:49,800
they find out that they're like
yeah it's not worth it.

486
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:56,100
Like we already know the answers
so did they say like what it is

487
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:59,400
like is it?
I do not I do not know the

488
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,500
answer to that question.
I do not know well I think the I

489
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:06,700
fascinating question I think the
answer to the question is,

490
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:09,000
whatever they were trying to
figure out they fucking found

491
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,200
out, maybe they got an answer to
it, because why else would you

492
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,300
not put money towards that?
Well, Playing devil's advocate,

493
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:18,500
maybe they're like, because
we're not finding what we want.

494
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:25,700
But it's consistently reacting,
the light like the area is

495
00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:29,300
consistently reacting, there
something is happening cattle

496
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:35,000
mutilations fucking, you know,
Lights lighting up areas,

497
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:43,600
whatever the case may be.
I don't understand why the why

498
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,100
the government would not like,
unless they knew that they

499
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,800
couldn't answer or they knew
what the answer was one of the

500
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,400
other?
Yeah, maybe.

501
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:57,300
Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I know.
I know, I get it.

502
00:32:57,300 --> 00:33:00,800
No, I get, this is a lot of
questions, so so now we're in

503
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,800
1990 or 20 1920, History Channel
decides.

504
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:11,000
Hey, I'm sure that this is what
they're thinking, she could make

505
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,700
some money on this because this
is some interesting Shiite.

506
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:22,300
Yeah, of course, well, as I
mentioned before, Mr. Who go

507
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,700
does not want to be known,
right?

508
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:27,200
Because we do.
Ya got this under a shell

509
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,700
company, right?
He didn't want anyone to know

510
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:34,500
that he was like a weirdo like
Zach to this phenomenon.

511
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:36,100
Exactly.
He.

512
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:42,600
So they go somehow, I'm sure
they figured out who he was and

513
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:48,800
convinced him to let.
Them help him the History

514
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,100
Channel, The History, Channel
History, Channel's not really

515
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:53,500
History Channel.
Anyway, no, that's really like,

516
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,400
Ancient Aliens which don't get
me wrong.

517
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:59,400
Fucking love it.
Yeah, but right, okay, yeah, not

518
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,100
history anymore, right?
We'll give you money.

519
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,000
We just want to, you know,
figure out what's going on.

520
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,300
Exactly.
So they, they work together and

521
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:10,400
in 2020, they released this
documentary and I think you can

522
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:16,199
find it on zoo Hulu, Netflix.
Netflix.

523
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,199
Yeah, exactly.
A secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

524
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,800
Okay.
Did you did you watch the

525
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,500
Skinwalker Ranch?
I didn't.

526
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:26,600
Or I did watch the whole thing.
I think you need to watch it.

527
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:32,900
Really how long is it?
Maybe like I don't know, Eight

528
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:36,300
Episodes it Opposite.
How it how much I mean I think

529
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:38,900
we were like half hour.
Oh okay that's easy we can get

530
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:42,400
through that.
Yeah okay it's really good

531
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:48,400
because the guy that kind of is
leaving get and I'm are coding

532
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,600
here.
Sharing it.

533
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:54,100
It's a skeptic and they hired
him to be a skeptic.

534
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:59,800
So our bro Brandon is Brandon
Brandon's bringing in The

535
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,800
skeptic he's bringing in the
skeptic, but is he, like, active

536
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,600
in this very active, really,
like, they still put him in

537
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,500
charge.
I mean, he's in charge of the

538
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,200
ranch and they keep him in
charge during this documentary.

539
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:19,800
Okay.
So I guess I have another

540
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,600
question.
Yeah.

541
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,300
So it was just done during 2019
or 2020.

542
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:27,800
Bent what about 1920?
Yeah.

543
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,900
So you say They keep him in
charge.

544
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,700
Yeah.
Who's really bankrolling this?

545
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,600
You can they keep well charge.
Is he actually in charge?

546
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,300
I'm sure the History Channel
gave give him a lot of money,

547
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:41,300
some money.
Yeah.

548
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,900
But he's very rich person and
he's been doing this anyway by

549
00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:48,400
himself.
So I'm sure for at least.

550
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,900
I mean, this is his passion.
I mean, how much money does he

551
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:56,100
really have to do?
I think he's very, very well

552
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:57,200
very loaded.
Yeah.

553
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,500
So the again, I don't think this
was about the money.

554
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:01,600
He's and he said this was never
about money.

555
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,500
Okay, this was about him.
Meaning the meaning of life, I

556
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:09,000
guess you'll throw any money
out, if that's what you believe

557
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,300
you're finding.
Yeah.

558
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,100
But like part of me questions,
like, as far as the like, what

559
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:19,300
he's seeing, he's seeing like
some kind of, he's trying to

560
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:22,800
find purpose in this, right?
And it seems to me, like,

561
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:28,300
whomever's owned this land.
His found has not found purpose.

562
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,400
It's been like, almost like it's
fucking with you.

563
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:34,900
It seems like.
It's like, Dexter or like

564
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:39,500
there's something else to this
maybe like it's not it's not

565
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:43,100
necessarily giving you an answer
that you're looking for.

566
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,900
Not just say that about all of
these kinds of topics as we

567
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,300
never really get the answer,
sometimes you do right?

568
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:53,400
Like, I feel like sometimes,
like you can kind of like make

569
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,000
an educated guess as to what's
happening.

570
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,500
But on the flip side, it seems
like there's a phenomenon where

571
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,400
it's trying to get a rise.
Rise out of you and and just

572
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:07,200
trying to fuck with you in
general.

573
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,800
Like it's not trying to are you.
Let it be, let it be that get

574
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,300
that energy out of you.
Yeah.

575
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:15,000
Yeah.
There's something powerful.

576
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,500
Yeah.
Who knows who knows?

577
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:17,500
Right.
Exactly.

578
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:21,200
Okay.
So I'm going to tell you where

579
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:28,800
Skinwalker Ranch.
So this area was, well,

580
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,700
obviously, all of North America
was Native Americans.

581
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:35,400
Yeah, definitely.
Okay.

582
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,900
And so, this particular area,
the Utes and the navajos, they

583
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:42,900
had a very actually sorted past
and the Utes and the Navajo

584
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:46,000
tribes started off as allies and
trading partners.

585
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,600
Sure.
And, you know, they live the

586
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,900
work, the land and as
Generations went on the

587
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,400
relationships, kind of became
strained and so much.

588
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,400
So that when the US Government
sent soldiers out to the

589
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,400
Southwest to protect the white
settlers from the Navajo, tries

590
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:07,800
the, you tribes.
Apparently, they joined forces

591
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,900
and they with the soldiers,
yeah.

592
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:14,600
The government, the government.
Exactly.

593
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:23,100
And as retribution, The Navajo,
Indians cursed, the land.

594
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:27,700
With evil spirits and those
evil, spirits are known as

595
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,700
skinwalkers.
Okay.

596
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:36,700
And so now what I exactly button
but you can now kind of start

597
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:38,700
connecting the dots.
Sure believe in that.

598
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:46,200
Yeah yeah definitely if in fact
they had cursed the land And now

599
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,800
we are seeing all of these weird
phenomenon, people, perhaps

600
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,600
there is a connection perhaps
that, is it, okay?

601
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:02,700
So yes, one, We did the youths,
okay?

602
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:10,400
I'm gonna put on my I'm not
totally white and say that I

603
00:39:10,408 --> 00:39:13,300
don't fucking trust the US
government because hey we're

604
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:17,200
here at the pasaría.
Right one.

605
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,700
What what kind of a fucking
option.

606
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:23,400
Did the Utes actually have?
Yeah.

607
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,000
Like like if the government's
like, hey, look, we're going to

608
00:39:27,008 --> 00:39:29,600
try to like blow out these
Navajo people.

609
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,500
Like I know you're not friends
of them.

610
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:35,600
Like you're not the biggest fan.
What like you want to join

611
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,000
forces with us.
Yeah.

612
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,900
And they're like, I don't know,
but really the government saying

613
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:44,600
you want to join forces with us
horse horse.

614
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:48,100
So it's like they didn't really
have much of no toys, of course

615
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:55,400
against the Navajo 12.
But did the navajos put a curse

616
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,900
on?
That's, that's my question.

617
00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:59,200
Like, did they put a curse on
the land for the youths?

618
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,000
Or did they put a curse on the
land?

619
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:03,700
Or did they even in?
It's just always been like, this

620
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,700
weird fucking land.
That like okay.

621
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:10,400
So here's the other thing is so
the the curse that they put on

622
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,400
the land, the the this Mesa.
Hmm.

623
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:25,400
It runs right through this Ranch
so that 500 feet of Mesa that

624
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,600
glows.
Yeah.

625
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:31,300
Through this Ranch.
This is the area that the

626
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:37,500
Navajo, Indians supposedly
cursed, okay?

627
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:40,400
Okay.
Well, hence the name right,

628
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,000
right, right.
Skinwalker Ranch Skinwalker

629
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,300
area.
Like what is?

630
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,400
I mean?
It's kind of shit land, isn't

631
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,700
it?
Yeah, it is.

632
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,400
It's really like, yeah, like
dirt and rock.

633
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,700
Like I said and why would they
curse that area because they

634
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:58,100
were F and pissed?
Oh, why would the youths even No

635
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,600
fucking live there.
Be there.

636
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,300
I guess they probably been
moved.

637
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,500
Like, you know, you're right.
Who knows?

638
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,300
Probably right.
Exactly, never mind.

639
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:09,500
Yeah.
Okay.

640
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:13,100
So skinwalkers they cursed it
and we're like, okay, evil

641
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:16,400
entities are evil entities.
Yes, who which are gone forms

642
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,700
and shapes of all sizes and
kinds.

643
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:26,100
So like what they can be a
person person, a thing, I think,

644
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:29,100
primarily I think, I was
reading.

645
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:33,600
I needed how she go look at this
game, but I think a lot of it

646
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,100
was around.
Beasts and wolves.

647
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:42,500
And that probably, there's
Predators.

648
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,500
Yes.
But they can really take on

649
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:47,500
apparently, any form hints
Skinwalker.

650
00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:51,300
So whatever.
So what would be the thing that

651
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:58,000
was like, I don't know.
Mutilating cows, a laser a laser

652
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,100
beam.
Laser a fucking a shark with

653
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:03,600
fucking laser beams attached,
their heads.

654
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,400
Well, I was this is what makes
this even worse, trying to

655
00:42:08,408 --> 00:42:16,800
figure out is like Why, what I?
What and okay, so let's talk.

656
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,800
Okay, let's pretend that it's
not.

657
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:22,100
That is Skinwalker in Oscars.
Yeah, it's Britain, it's not

658
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:23,700
something else.
Uh-huh.

659
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,400
Okay, why to get a rise out of
people to get?

660
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,500
Why are you draining cows,
Bloods?

661
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:34,100
Why are you cutting off their
heads with laser Precision?

662
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:38,700
Why are you doing these little
floating dust orbs and up by the

663
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,500
way, there are so there's
there's what they call.

664
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,300
Call Homestead one Homestead to
on this Ranch.

665
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:47,800
And you if you go to their
website, you actually see a map.

666
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,500
They show you a map and kind of
where these things are, like the

667
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,600
homesteads.
Yeah.

668
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,200
So that was actually one thing
that I was going to ask about is

669
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,600
like, is there an area on the
actual like Ranch?

670
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,200
That's like more active.
I like one area like has more.

671
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,700
It's more of an epicenter for
like this activity to even

672
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,800
happen and the answer is yes.
Yeah.

673
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,000
Which one is it?
Look the ridge with the glowing?

674
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,800
Yeah.
Yeah.

675
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:16,300
Amazed I think some Homestead to
as a lot of activity, okay?

676
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:20,900
Interesting, which is used to be
like I literally a homestead

677
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:24,300
back when someone actually fact,
when we were talking about this

678
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:28,200
11 1911, when the Piat people
live there, I wonder what

679
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,000
happened to that time.
I wonder if there is something

680
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,600
that happened there that maybe
had an imprint on the land or so

681
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,300
maybe that could be it.
Yeah, but even, I mean, none of

682
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:41,800
this like make sense.
It seems to me like things are

683
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,500
constantly changing, right?
With the, the activity.

684
00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:48,600
It's never the same always
changing.

685
00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:52,400
So where can we?
What can we say is actually,

686
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,800
like, like, what is the the, the
one common denominator?

687
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,500
Like, what is it?
That is consistently, you know,

688
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:05,000
happening.
Like, I can't say that aside

689
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,200
from getting a rise out of,
people are trying to get

690
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,500
attention.
Like what else is it?

691
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,900
It is not trying to get a rise
or attention.

692
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:20,200
Maybe it's I'm trying to
communicate and I don't know

693
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,700
how.
Yeah, and maybe that's what

694
00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:24,400
makes it that's why it's
different.

695
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,600
Every time someone else comes on
because it's trying different

696
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,500
things, but how many fucking
scientists the government came

697
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,500
in, like, the fact that
government came in and then left

698
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:36,400
at?
Yeah, like it's not like an arid

699
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:40,200
Area, 51 situation that we like
like we've had in the past where

700
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,500
we write still there and still
like, you know researching

701
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:45,200
right?
They've researched they found

702
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,000
their answer and they're fucking
done.

703
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:50,200
So, So what the fuck did they
figure out?

704
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:53,600
Maybe that's it.
Maybe they figured it out and

705
00:44:53,600 --> 00:45:00,800
they went it's not worth our
time or We're going to we can't.

706
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,900
We have to stop because now we
can't let people know stuff and

707
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:08,200
so we have to shut it down by
Big Brother me.

708
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Yeah.
Like we're afraid of pandemonium

709
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,400
we're afraid of people like
reacting in a very negative.

710
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,000
Like, yes, well, I'm Matt's been
proven many times.

711
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,900
I mean, the parents, you're
totally fucking right about

712
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:20,500
that.
Yes, that's very true.

713
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,300
Yes, who knows?
Yeah.

714
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,200
I just find it strange that it's
that place and why is it that

715
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:34,600
nowhere in the middle, right?
And it's still going on.

716
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:38,600
We can still look up like
phenomena then like yes exactly.

717
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,500
Still just as active as it was
before.

718
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:45,400
Or is it more active?
Like I don't think it's more not

719
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,500
that I know of more or less.
It's it's still as active

720
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,700
listening.
Yes, yes, fucking crazy.

721
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:55,400
I'm telling you to bit.
Yeah, Google it.

722
00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:00,300
If okay, if you want to
subscribe to their websites

723
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:02,300
finding and hey, did you see
these videos?

724
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:06,600
But they're like I said, there
are some free, the they do

725
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:10,800
enough videos to entice.
You to look, just wait and you

726
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,100
can see that the glowing and you
can see, you can see the arm,

727
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:16,500
you can see it for free.
You don't have to actually free.

728
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:18,300
Do the pay stuff.
So okay.

729
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,200
What if you were to say like hey
I think this is what like what

730
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,100
would you say like after?
Researching the Skinwalker

731
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:35,700
Ranch, what would you say it is?
I'm still undecided quite

732
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:38,400
honestly.
I mean, I don't I'm not

733
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,100
convinced one way or another,
I'm not.

734
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,500
I'm the type of person.
Did I wouldn't?

735
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:50,800
Is it a curse?
Yeah I don't know where she'll

736
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,900
curse.
Is it?

737
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:57,500
I mean no nose, right?
It could maybe this something

738
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:03,300
with this split.
This particular spot is because

739
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:10,400
it's so obscure and remote Maybe
I don't know.

740
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,500
So I encourage you to watch the
show because they do talk about

741
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:22,400
this one area on the Mesa where
it says Cavern and they actually

742
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:28,000
can start going into this
unknown Cavern.

743
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,700
Ooh, but every time someone
starts to go down there.

744
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:36,100
They get violently ill.
Oh like they can't go down

745
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:37,400
there.
Just any further?

746
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:39,500
Oh my God.
Yeah.

747
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,800
That's fucked up.
What is down there?

748
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,900
What is down there?
So do you think is there

749
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:49,700
something buried under there?
Yeah there's some I'm the

750
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:52,600
completely random sure.
An alien ship down there, that

751
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,300
is causing some effect of human
skin.

752
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:59,500
That's causing you to get sick,
is there?

753
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,000
I mean, it could be a billion.
Any things if you're a betting

754
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,900
man, what would you put?
Your Chips on like like what?

755
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:10,400
I'll tell.
I mean, I guess I could tell you

756
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,200
what I would do.
Yeah, I would think it's some

757
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,700
kind of like energy that is
trying to like doesn't have the

758
00:48:18,708 --> 00:48:22,400
capacity that our energy does
and so it's trying to get some

759
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,400
kind of reaction because it
makes it.

760
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:30,200
I think I would agree if I'm
gonna stick with the idea that

761
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:36,300
it is not of this world or it is
something Unexplained that I

762
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:39,800
would go with that theory, is
that it's something that just a

763
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,300
does not know how to communicate
with us, right?

764
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:51,200
Because it is so different.
We can't it's interfering with

765
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,200
us and no, no, I'm sick or, you
know, whatever the case is,

766
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,800
hence the reports all of the,
you know, back in the 1911's

767
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,900
when people were getting
headaches and nausea and a

768
00:49:01,908 --> 00:49:05,400
paralysis and vertigo.
And all these weird things,

769
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,600
unexplainable.
Yeah.

770
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,300
So I just can't Interact with
us.

771
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:18,000
Well, you know what I would be
like super interested to know if

772
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,800
anyone's listening who has like
a story.

773
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,300
I think that would be brilliant.
Yeah.

774
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:27,200
Like a story about something.
Similar a similar.

775
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,500
Maybe a story about someone they
knew that was on Skinwalker

776
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:33,500
Ranch, or been?
Yeah, I've been there

777
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:36,600
themselves.
Yeah, I would cycle of parents

778
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,600
elsewhere, is this all just
bogus bullshit for a history.

779
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:43,200
TV show, History Channel, TV
show.

780
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,800
The only I would ask that.
I would try to catch say that

781
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:52,400
pause except that it's been
happening for over 100 years in

782
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,900
the same spot.
Yeah, you know what I mean?

783
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:56,800
Varying degrees, but yeah,
varying degrees.

784
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,700
Yeah, Yeah.
So if you guys would go to

785
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Anchor, FM.com and search for
the bizarre AF and you can

786
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,900
actually hit the record button.
Met leave a message, you can

787
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:14,100
Cord.
If you've heard anything if

788
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:19,600
you've experienced it and then
we can like put you up on there

789
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,700
would be so cool.
Like just to hear someone's like

790
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:26,800
comment like conversation, just
about like oh yeah, actually my

791
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,800
dad was like a janitor like in
Homestead to.

792
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,100
I'm yeah, fucked up story.
Exactly.

793
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:34,900
I would love to hear about that.
Yes.

794
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,900
Or just like, hey, I have a
friend who had, you know, been

795
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:41,400
by there or like they lived in
the air because it's a A small

796
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,700
community.
My I had friends who were there.

797
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,500
It's very small community and so
it's not like, like one, they're

798
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:53,300
all from what I hear, you know,
it's a weird area, very rural

799
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:57,500
and small town rural, so I would
be really interested.

800
00:50:57,500 --> 00:50:59,800
You guys have it please?
Like, please.

801
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:06,300
Thanks for listening to my
story.

802
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:09,800
Yes, that was a good one.
I loved it.

803
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:15,400
I loved it like, Super scary
alien asked mutilations like

804
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,200
very like ice.
I don't know like dust or the

805
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,100
floating dust orbs.
Like that's the one thing.

806
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:24,600
I didn't believe that everything
else I'm like, what the fuck.

807
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,000
But I like that one.
Yes, for sure.

808
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,300
Thanks.
Yeah.

809
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:35,800
So our second episode.
I am excited for our third

810
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:41,400
episode which is weeks, huh?
And we'll keep this Going you

811
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,200
guys keep watching us live?
Yeah it's every every other

812
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,500
Saturday this Saturday we're
releasing a new podcast so

813
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:49,400
that's right.
I haven't checked it out.

814
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:56,400
Say hello, you can watch us live
or even submit like a question

815
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,100
or please.
I thought about, you know

816
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,300
potential please topics and
stuff like that.

817
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:05,100
That's right.
Yeah, sorry F.com.

818
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:10,000
We are on all social media
channels website, send us

819
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,500
comments.
Stories.

820
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:15,600
Whatever you got.
Yeah, and the freaky, the Freaky

821
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,100
Deaky.
We want to hear about it all.

822
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,100
But thank you so much for
sharing your, thank you.

823
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,000
Yeah.
I guess I'm a, I'm cheersing

824
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,200
with a Perrier with an empty
chair.

825
00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:29,400
How is a little heavy?
All right.

826
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,600
See you later.
Bye.

827
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,900
Cheers.
Buying.