Disclosure : In the US Congress

0:01 Hello Bizarre story, friends. If you're tuned in now, you are listening to the Bizarre AFA place where we talk about the strange, the unknown, and all things bizarre AF. I'm Alicia, your host for today's episode. And as always, but especially now and today, we ask that you keep an open mind. Keep a skeptical ear, but keep on listening to the facts as we take you on our newest journey, Disclosure in the US Congress. Well, well, well, Kevin, my Co host with the most. Aren't you just looking so patriotic and dashing today? Got all my flags, yes.

1:14 I love it. We the people. I'm so happy that we're that we're talking just about that today and you always on theme. We have to be on theme. You have to be on theme. Theatrical. We are the theatrical people that we have. Yes. Are you guys, Are you ready to like to dive deep into into the deep end of Alien news? I love Alienness. I love government Conspiracy Ness. I love it. Excuse me. Well, get your snorkel ready. OK, let's go. Let's. Dive deep. So if you're looking for a CHEAT SHEET of what the heck is going on with the US Congress disclosure, Oh yes, yeah. I've read and have listened to months worth of briefings, interviews, open sessions.

2:05 They're. Fucking fascinating. Insane tik toks like I I can't get enough of it. Oh, my God. And I I'm, I'm assuming you're going to talk about the most recent Congress hearing? I am, yeah. That seemed to just go by the wayside. It was barely even a blip, I feel. A blip and they dropped the mic bombshell after bombshell. Yes, yes. And what's interesting, like before we can get into it, I I think that it's really interesting to note that we didn't have that many articles come out. Why is that? Why?

2:46 Why? And like, this Sounds like we should be having our tinfoil hats on, right? Well, yeah, Yeah. If you ask him about some other person, they'd be like, yeah, conspiracy. Conspiracy. Oh, it's it's everyone. It's like they're all in cahoots, but in reality. But they fucking. They actually are like, like, and that's something that because I I've like, I've listened to so much. Even right before we started recording, I was still listening to things just to not only refresh, but like, it's dry listening to Congress, congressional hearings, OK, But there's just so much information that was packed into these interviews and these and and into these hearings that it's like, I feel like you have to listen to it like four or five times to even get the gravity of what's being said. Yeah, yeah.

3:42 And I don't want to go off on a tangent here. Not let's. But here's what drives me nuts. Like I will listen to all of these politics and politicians and talk about, you know, wars and things. And they say these things real subtly, like and but the media will, like, pick up on it like that. They'll go, oh, did you hear? And like, I'm like, I'd, I would have had to listen to this like five times to even kind of pick up on that kind of thing, right? And then like pick right up on it. And then they're like, they tie the the knots together and they point the strings together and they connect all the pieces and they're like really good about that. Like like listen to every fucking word and then this shit comes out and it's crickets.

4:26 100% there's there is something that we're going to be referring to and actually that that one of the witnesses that was being questioned was referring to a lot. And that is a Newsweek interview that he had before he came out with all this information to Congress before the hearing even happened. He's talked about this Newsweek interview that he had and he's so careful. And the people that he entrusted this interview to, I took it seriously and I listened to like I said so much. I even listened to interviews or briefings that the actual reporters were having and saying this is important.

5:10 This is like insane, you like. And by the way, we feel like the media has been keeping this hush hush and not taking it seriously. And that is the exact opposite of what reporting should be doing. So then the question becomes, please explain to me why? Why? Like why all of them? Why all of them? Well, and that's that's something that that these reporters were talking about is one. It is 100% career suicide. If you start to you're like, Oh my gosh, I got this information like let's say the Tic Tac video.

5:51 It's just easy to refer to. I got this video, you're like, oh that's great. Yeah, I'm going to pursue it. I'm going to write this thing I'm doing looking at all the sources I'm I'm doing my interviews. Then sometimes what what happens to these reporters is they're given a bigger story that is easier. Maybe it's a National Defense issue or whatever that is easier to track down the information and is more of a hole in one, so to speak as far as an A news article goes. So that's what the these reporters are saying career suicide or you're kind of dangled like you've you're given a little carrot and said Oh yeah, yeah, don't pay attention to that. Talk about this instead.

6:33 Oh my God. And who? Who's making these decisions? Who is? Exactly. Who's decided? Like, OK, yeah, I got my and we do need tinfoil hats. We. Need some tinfoil hats? Yeah. Like, 'cause does the government strong arm? Is the government strong arming the media in some way, 'cause the media would tell you there's no way that the the government's going to strong arm me into not reporting something. They would always say that, right? But you know it happens. It you know what happens they not. I'm going to hate to use the word blackmail, but that's what everyone understands, the word blackmail.

7:14 Blackmail at best. Yeah, right. And to stop them from doing something right or a quid pro quo kind of thing like, OK, well you, I'm going to say this thing, but you're not going to publish it. And I'll give you this thing or some a bigger fish or whatever, whatever. Easier fish. Easier, yeah, To keep it hush hush. Yes. Like all kinds of reasons. Well I mean like you talk about like you know these people who are in like you know Homeland Security or whatever intelligence committee and and they are reporters. They work for the government but they are reporters and so or they they work for these media organizations And I really wish that it were this were a conspiracy.

7:58 It's not like what we're finding out and what you know the the basics of what we're finding out through this congressional like disclosure is not only has the government been lying to us, our Congress people have been lying and trying to evade this. The the media has been they're all working together to hide the information from the American people and do the American disgusting. Yeah, it's so disgusting. If this is an issue of national security potentially, right? Shouldn't the? American people know everything. Well, a lot more than they currently do.

8:40 Like like instead of, you know, you have like these pilots and stuff who are reporting thing or saying, I see these things and they're like, oh, I can't say anything because I'd be a laughingstock. Exactly. His life would, or his or her life would be miserable at work. They'd be ridiculed in public. Literally, the majority of people do not, they don't have a means to actually even report this stuff to the government or to an agency because because maybe a man in black or whatever, you know, like some guy who works for, you know, high up in the intelligence community, CIA, whatever, on black budget. They shut them, shut them down, or they hide the information.

9:22 Like, for instance, the TikTok video. Yeah, that was taken. Like it wasn't released until 10 years after it was even taken. Right. Why 'cause it was being hidden, you know, intentionally. Yes. And then those pilots come back and go. No, this was real. And they were in this Congress hearing. Yeah, right. Yeah, they were in the Congress hearing, so. Oh, God. OK, I'm gonna wear. I'm gonna wear this badge of honor like, having done all of this research, your friend with the weird amount of seemingly useless and obsessive knowledge of aliens. Because honestly, I not so secretly am terrified of 1 knocking on my door and asking for some sugar or even just standing at the, you know, the foot of my bed and staring at me.

10:14 Anybody who's listened to this podcast series knows that that's true, because when I start to say, talk about stories and stuff, you go, Oh my God, am I going to sleep? Yeah. Am I going to sleep? Can I sleep tonight? It's like the scariest thing, like ghosts, whatever. Demons, whatever. Like, you know, murder, whatever. Aliens. Oh no, I cannot do it. So I I think, like, at least I would die of terror if that happened. If you had an alien walking down the street or something, what would you do? Would you be like, oh Yep, figures. Oh, I wouldn't be surprised and I wouldn't be shocked like they're real. No, that wouldn't.

10:58 Be me. No, you're like. Yeah, I I yeah, I'd. Be like Where have you been, bitch? Yeah, where's your human suit 'cause I know you've been fucking walking down this. We've all met a weirdo who's like, there's no way that person came from planet Earth. Like there's no way. Yeah. No. I would be all I'm yeah, I'd be like finally. Well, and we're the both of us are not really strangers to the fact that this bizarre world we live in is not black and white and the disclosure is a multi faceted and layered issue. When you think of the topic disclosure, like what do you what comes up for you like? Do you feel like it's just something that like is slowly trickled out?

11:39 Do you feel like it? Could be either. It's like either. You're forced. Disclosure is, I got caught with my pants down and now I have to tell you the truth. Yeah. Look at that. Or I think of a whistleblower, like, I guess that's same thing as getting your pants cut down because someone's whistleblowing on you and you're like, yeah, now I got to disclose everything, yes, but people don't voluntarily disclose anything. No, not necessarily. There's going to be a reason, there's going to be a reason behind someone who's keeping something away to having to disclose it. There's some force forcing them to disclose. Yes, there's there is. There is a morality issue that is at play often times and we're talking about disclosure today we're talking I use I use the term disclosure in relation to aliens. So like in relation to some kind of outward outer planet, outer dimensional, you know beings that we don't know about and and the fact that you know our the US government has known about them since at least the 1930s.

12:50 So that's what and that's what we're talking about today. So what if I told you to suspend your disbelief? OK Kevin, and replace the word or idea of aliens with multi dimensional beings instead? OK. Yeah, but no. I tracked. I tracked. The only reason I tracked to that, yes is because we've talked about this before, right? We've had this discussion before. And so had we not ever. Then I might be like, well, let me log him out, but I I. I have a. Level of comprehension to it, yes. Yes, I can, in my very simple, simplistic mind, can comprehend what you're saying, Yeah. Yes, I feel like it's it's really actually been a happy little accident that we covered the topic of dimensions because it kind of allows us in this episode to dig a little bit deeper together into the idea of multi dimensional beings. But before we can really move forward with this disclosure, I really wanted to highlight the definition of a UAP, which is an unidentified aerial phenomenon.

14:05 Do you think that sounds more modern than UFO? Do you think they you think the label has come about because there was such a connotation or an imagery with UFOs? I think that's a big part of it there. There was so much disinformation and like when people think of aliens, they think or people who are like have been abducted or whatever they think of crazy people who live in the middle of the woods and are like podunk or whatever, you know, like stupid. In the old 50s, black and white movies with the little spinning objects, that's what people think about, right? And they're like, no, no. It's cartoonish. Yes. Cartoonish. Yeah. It's not reality.

14:47 I I think that the definition really has been newly coined by the government because it removes that idea of the little green men that flew 50 million light years from Planet Xenon, right? Like, it instead places the onus on the person perceiving the phenomenon. OK, so it's really saying we don't know what the fuck this is because we're not sure it's a flying object anymore, right? It's a phenomenon. It's not even a flying object, right? It's a phenomenon And something that is observed to exist, the whole world or the whole word of object was totally removed. It was, yes.

15:31 I think it's important to know because it just shows we have no fucking clue what the hell this is. It's some kind of like phenomenon that isn't even a spaceship. It's nothing that we can really understand. It really shows us that there's, you know, so little known about you a PS that it's no longer a thing, an actual thing, a noun. It's that phenomenon. It's a concept of a phenomenon which the person perceiving is not able to readily define. So this phenomenon is something that breaks these folks whole idea of reality. The laws and the rules that science is defined are very experience and existence on planet Earth.

16:15 So the things that they're seeing don't follow these natural laws that we've learned about. They don't follow anything that we understand, right. And I'm sorry, go ahead. I was going to say like for example when they do, when they maneuver in ways that physics say are not is not possible or in the speed or whatever. Yeah it I mean it doesn't make any sense and and we can't make sense of it. And I think that it's really important to take time to spell this out because I I do believe that this is one of the most significant discoveries of our lifetime and like, to be completely frank, even more than that, this is one, this is world bending.

16:58 I concur. I concur. Which adds to my level of frustration that it's being so ignored. Yes. Yeah. And so the idea, like things have been slowly trickled out. You know, we talk about the Tic Tac video. There was a New York Times article that happened in December, right before the holidays. It was released on a Friday. And the whole idea behind that is we know there's going to be bigger news that that's going to happen and it's going to pale that in comparison. So people didn't really care. They're like, yeah, whatever, you know, I can hardly pay my bills. Let me like, I don't even care about aliens. But the United States Congress on July 26th, 2023 had retired. Major David Crush, retired fire pilots Ryan Graves and Navy Commander David Flavor.

17:54 They all took to the United States Congress to disclose information that he and other military personnel had gathered. So this information was specifically brought to the Committee of Oversight and Accountability and it was a public hearing which is actually it's in the the first link in our show notes. So if you have two hours and 22 minutes to to spare it, it's actually an interesting lesson listen but it's a lot of time. So the whole session was really filled with great one liners from Congressman and and the three retired military personnel. So one of one of the the actual items that they were saying is this is the most, one of the most important hearings and this is every single congressman, one of the most important hearings that I will ever be a part of and I'm very thankful to be a part of. So they're all taking, they're taking this job seriously and questioning and questioning these guys. So the committee was important because now nothing new or groundbreaking happened.

19:04 There was a lot of talk about the Tic Tac video video, which actually David Flavor was there and being questioned about. And there was a lot of questioning about the Tic Tac video and about why was this not disclosed, Why did you not come forward to disclose it? He's like. So you know what? We've said Tic Tac video a lot. Maybe we need to. We can link it. Link it, but maybe quickly. Take a minute and let's explain to people that may not know what's listening what the Tic Tac video is. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to do it? I I'm happy too. So this was I believe off the coast like the near the Baja, Mexico and California, off the coast of California.

19:49 And these fighter pilots were doing a a drill like they often do and there was, it was some kind of drill and David Flavor was the lead in it. And he's like he saw something, he's like what the hell is this? This is moving erratically, OK and it's moving very fast and can stop in a second. That's not how any spaceships or any any aircraft that we know of can can actually like fly. So it was erratically flying. And it looks like a Tic Tac, like literally looks like a Tic Tac, which is why it's nicknamed the Tic Tac video.

20:34 Now, you had a couple of fighter pilots who have been, you know, flying for years. You know, David Flavor has been doing it for, you know, 20 plus years. He's the head of the squadron and he's like, what the hell is this? But it was moving so quickly, he could not capture the video. It was actually another Squad squadron member that collected that video and they said it was so hard, it was hard for us to even do that. They had seen the Tiktok craft go underwater, come out of the water, move erratically through the air and they could hardly keep up with it. Yes. If you watch the video, you'll it's the background is like a blur because they're tracking it so fast.

21:21 They finally get it in frame that the background is just zipping by. Yeah. Zipping by. And you know, they're at a distance away. So it's like really fast. Yeah, you can tell how fast it is and it does. It looks like this little Tic Tac. Yes, you can't. You can't. You can't. What's the word I'm looking for? The perspective of it? You can't tell. There's nothing to compare it to, so you can't tell. Is it literally the size of a Tic Tac or is it the size of the Empire State Building? You can't really, you can't judge. I don't. Do you recall if they said? How big it was, how big it was.

22:03 I'm sure that they did because because they have like measurements the ability to measure within the. Yes, there were with their monitor. Yeah, the monitor. Yeah. So they can. I don't, I don't know off the top of my head what it was. And that's what we were talking about. But they couldn't even see seams on the on this Tic Tac. That's right. There were no seams or rivets or anything that looked like it was connected together. Yes, it looked like it was one solid A. Philon Tic, TAC. A Philon Tic Tac. A piece of material, yeah, that had no connections. Yeah, we don't know anything that exists like that. And again, that goes back to what we were talking about before move, like stopping, going up and then going really fast and turn left.

22:49 Yes, like nothing. Physics says that you can't do that. Right. And these are also things that like can fuck with with the sensors of of these the pilots. So it's like it could sometimes not even show up on radar, which which they're like this is not, this is so strange. So they end up getting back down, going back down, and they get briefed or they give a brief and like say what had happened. And what they find is nothing happens from it, absolutely nothing happens from it. All of the data, 'cause I believe that there was a ship that also had got gathered some data and had recorded some of this. Everything.

23:31 Someone would come in, like military personnel had come in and taken everything shut. It down? Uh huh. Shut it. Down. This is a national security OK, cool. These people were never questioned again, they. Like 10 years ago, right? This was. This was like, yeah, like 10 to 12 years ago. Yeah, yeah. That it that it even occurred. God. OK, so explains that what Tic Tac so, so now fast, Fast forward to Congress hearing. Yes. And you've got the people, like you said, the guys there that were the pilots, they're talking. Yeah. So really, like the what one thing that you're fine that you find is like, OK, cool, Congress is talking about this. We've all seen this video like because it actually came out like what, like two or three years ago and it's not really news anymore.

24:22 This is really old, you know, that we are listening to the Congress talk about. But why? Is it one thing that you have to ask yourself? Why are they having a public committee hearing on this? Yeah, why now? Yes, it's because these items need to be on record, OK. And these these government officials these Congress people and and also the whistleblowers here smell to cover up. So they have to have they have to go through these stupid measures and have a public hearing or a hearing and actually they requested that it was public because they thought that they the people needed to know so they needed to cross their TS and dot their IS now the this committee is specifically actually for whistleblowers and people who work within the government who participate with security clearances etcetera which I would never pass a security clearance.

25:19 Wink Wink Kev and these these folks you know know that the government cheese stink and it stink bad OK and we still don't have our tinfoil hats we should have asked Roy to go and cast one. I really wish I could say that this wasn't a reality. And but there's in fact factions within the US government who are trying to hide the truth from the American people of what you a PS are. And this hearing and what we're living in right now are fucking historic times, you know? So from the opening statement, Congressman Grothman says something that is very pointed.

26:03 And I'm paraphrasing here, but But essentially he says that this is a compartmentalized government issue, OK? Meaning we have to know which compartments or of the government have this information because we are asking questions and nobody knows the answers to them. One thing that came up repeatedly was who, which government officials what? Like where is the budget coming from and is this a national security issue?

26:43 One thing that the Congress people kept on saying was we understand the Pentagon has has never passed an audit. Now we all know audits. You know, you have to check and and keep track of all of the freaking you know money that you have and show where the money's going. The Pentagon's like a billion dollars deficit in their fucking audits, in their budgets. And this is consistent on a consistent basis. So where is this money going? And this is taxpayer money, right? Which is another reason why we would want to have this be a public, you know, congressional meeting.

27:27 Which should tell everybody. That should tell everybody that there isn't, but without question what they call these Black Ops or these, these OPS, or these. Different. Different. Budget. Those exist. This is proof they exist. This money is going somewhere that that the government does not want you to know where it's going. Yes. And there are, I'm sure some there are very legitimate reasons. There are truly some legitimate reasons that this would occur, Yes. And I think that's the fine line that gets crossed. Yes, like because these we're talking about people who are, you know career, not criminals but they fucking should be.

28:12 But they're career government workers. Like that's that's what they're doing. And you know we we even talk about things like I I was like convinced. I'm like there's no such thing as aliens. Because if there was and Trump knew, we would all know, right. But when you even talk to these, to the presidents, for instance, you can listen to Obama talking about, well, yeah, you know, Area 51 and Roswell, you know, whatever. He even said, yeah, Area 51 is an actual, like military base. And people are like, no fucking duh. Like just because the government says it isn't like, doesn't mean we believe it.

28:55 But when he was still in office, he would joke around and say things like little green men and, you know, stuff like that. I would know about it. But he was briefed after his president, like his presidency. And now there's an interview with Stephen Colbert that he had after his presidency. And Stephen Colbert says I have to know because everyone wants to know, are there such thing as aliens? And what does Obama say? He says. I think that there's a lot more to this world, basically, there's more than we know. And I can't say specifics. Uh huh. So he's not answering the question, but he's also not joking around and taking it as, like flippantly as he used to, Even Trump.

29:44 And this is like, like I said, I went down a fucking rabbit hole with like, anything related to disclosure and Trump's son. I don't know which one it was. Tweedle, dear Tweedle, dumb. Choose your fucking poison. But he said I have to know about, you know, Dad, I have to know about just or about aliens. What is the deal? And he said, well, you know there are there are things out there. I just can't, I can't like look, he gave some kind of bullshit answer like there are, there are a lot of things that like, you know, you can't just say it's not my business saying, you know, in his own Trumpism. But he basically said like not no and not yes. And I can't talk about it.

30:28 Yes. Yeah, I'm like, that motherfucker could keep his fucking yap shut. Like, that's insane. I just assume he just repeats or regurgitates everything he hears, Which is why a lot of people liked him, right? So, David Grush, I told you we had three. Three dudes. David Grush takes the stand. OK. And this is very important because David Grush worked in the intelligence community. He was an investigator and specifically investigated alien crash retrieval programs. Yes. And he was really the big whistleblower who came out about it, about it.

31:14 And he's the one who has who knows. He plays the guy. He played the government game. He knows the who's, he knows the where's and he knows when the things happened, but he did not. Personally, I have to say this because it's it's a huge controversy around David Grash is that he never personally saw aliens, He never touched aliens, he never met aliens, He never experienced, actually experienced the aliens. He was the investigator who was going through making sure that these claims were legit. OK, so he takes the stand and everyone who is watching or who has watched this is where they're going to fucking roll their eyes, because they will hear him refer to his News Nation interview saying that he cannot give specifics.

32:07 And I thought that I would actually play a little snippet of the frustration that Congresswoman Mace had even while questioning and his the question turned a little evasive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here we are. Intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in public setting. OK, I can't ask when you think this occurred, if you believe we have crashed Craft stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, Biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah.

32:48 Were they I guess human or non human biologics? Non human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. And was this documentary evidence's video photos eyewitness? Like how would that be determined? The specific documentation I would have to talk to you in a skiff about gotcha. OK. So and you may or may not be able to answer my last question and maybe we get into a skiff at the next hearing that we have. But who in the government either what agency, sub agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next Hearing about you APS either in a public setting or even in a private setting and you probably can't name names, but what agencies, organizations, contractors, etcetera do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening and what's out there?

33:40 I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And and how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. Super Thank you and I yield back. Wow. So before we get into that, do you know what a skiff is? I do. Oh, OK dude, Can you tell me? Well, sure, yeah. Quickly. It's it's a secure, it's a room that is secure and it's built in such a way that there's no electronics, so you can't possibly have any recording devices. It would be like no.

34:20 There were no phone. There would be no. What about your like your watch? Typically you take that stuff off, you put it. Before you walk in. Before you go into the skiff. Gotcha. Yeah. So it's very, very secure. So you can have very private conversations without the possibility of anything getting out. And like, OK, what do the rooms look like? Is it just like a normal? Comfortable conference room. Oh really? Except, but it's like, you know, it's like it's not. Just like you open up this little flimsy wooden door and go into the skiff like it's it's a no ordeal. Like it's a it's a thing. It's like a bank fault that they open up the door and like, you walk in and they're and they're like, OK, no jokes, let's sit down. This is serious.

35:04 Yeah. OK, That's interesting. Yeah, that's fascinating. So he was saying, yeah, we'll we'll go into a yes, have some discussions. So the skiff actually stands for a Sensitive Compartmentalized Informations Facility. There you go. Yeah, and why does he want to do this is a big question. Why is he willing to talk about it? Yes, that is a good question. Why is he not doing it in the public hearing? Well, and why now? And so you see, this is where I get confused about clearances. Yes. Because clearly he has a a security clearance. Yes, very high, yeah.

35:46 And but. And I believe he still has it, by the way. See, so how do see this is where I like how do how can he be saying this stuff and still have a clearance? Like how does he know what he can and can't? Because This is why I'm confused. And then like so some stuff he can say in public even though he has a clearance and he shouldn't be talking about it and but some stuff he can't but some stuff he can what somebody else that has a clear I don't even know if these called these congressmen have clearances. I'm. Assuming they do, that's actually something they talk about in the in the act, in the hearing, not all of them have the clearance, yes. OK. So maybe she did. So we can go into a skiff and talk about it, right?

36:26 So he's like, OK. But that she did, she wasn't it. But that just doesn't give her. Just because you have a clearance doesn't give you, doesn't give you the authority to hear something of the same clearance. This is the key you have to have a need to know. Right. And and so it's it brings up a lot of questions for me and one of them is what you're just talking about now, like why? How, why can some stuff piece say in here? Why does some stuff have to go into the skiff? Yeah, I I don't know. So I can tell you from his perspective, from Grush's perspective, he has sources and people that still work for the US government and are unwilling or they do not want to disclose information in a public setting, right.

37:22 They could because they he's not the one who who touched the aliens or who like saw like the actual crashes. He interviewed the people who had. So he's almost, he is like the he's the investigator and he has all of his sources that have a lot more to lose 1. His job was to do that was to to actually investigate it and find the legitimacy behind it. And on top of that, he was one of those people who, when he had come out with some information, he'd already told his superiors, like, hey, I think this needs to come out. I think we need to talk to Congress about it. And they're like, yeah, sure, fine, do your thing. Nobody had a problem.

38:13 Everybody knew that he was going to discuss this stuff. He was going to come out about it and and then he was trying to make this information known. He didn't get reprimanded for it, but when he started coming out, boy did the did a smear campaign from something or someone start to happen. His mental health records were released. So it showed that he had like, OK, come on, all of us have had mental health issues, right? Like, if you're interesting, you have, Yeah. Like we've all, like, you know, dealt with depression, we've all dealt with PTSD or something, you know, something like that. We've all had, we've all had these things. This private information was released when he had started coming out.

39:03 The smear campaign came out and like one of the questions that they ask him is do do you feel like you have been threatened? Have you been threatened? And he said I can't talk about the specifics, but I like who threatened because because they because their follow up was like who wasn't. You know because we want to fucking chase after them. Because these Congress people know you have to have names in order to. Exactly. Get track. Stuff done, Yeah. So he specifically said no, you know, I I can say that it's been really tough. I'm not going to go into specifics, but it's been really rough. And he said another follow up question the Congress people had asked was have other people been threatened?

39:51 And he said everything, I mean basically was saying yes. And then the next Has anyone been killed right to try to keep this information silent? And he said we can talk about that in a skiff. What wouldn't you just couldn't you just say no? You could just say no. Can you say no? You could if the answer's no. If the answer. 'S no. Can you say no? If the answer's no, you're not going into a skiff, let's be honest. Let's yeah, let's be clear. You're not going into a skiff. I'm going to go into a skiff to tell you no, no one's been killed because of Yeah, please. No. Yeah. So they had, you know, they're talking about this and they're really trying to drill down into the who's doing this and that news.

40:38 And that's all the stuff that he's saying when he just said, like, I'll tell you this stuff in a skiff. Like I'm gonna give you names in a skiff. Yeah. Oh, I have all the names. Yes, I have everything. I will give it to you hand happily handed over in a skiff. What can you hand me? You know these hostile and then like also compliant like interviewer interviewees happy to when right after. Yeah, I have it. I have it. I I did not come unprepared, you know. But it's like, a lot of times you have to know what the questions are, what questions to ask in order to get the answers. And that's what they say and discover in this congressional here or in this hearing. The disclosure hearing is that we like, we can't know because we're asking questions and people are evading or not answering.

41:23 They don't know what the answers are. We need to know specifics in order to drill down and in order to get actual answers, because there's some evasive bullshit that's happening right now. So. And by the way, you just tell people you're getting over a very, very serious. Cold. Yeah. I was very, very sick. I mean, like, I'm fine now, but it was like a very, like, serious, like respiratory sickness, which is why we're a little late with this one and why I'm a little horse. Yeah. And congested. So we talk about the skiff. They end up having one.

42:04 They have this Skiff they. Do have they do go into this skiff? Well, yeah, I would imagine they would want to, yes. OK, so they actually, the problem was that they were not getting approval to go into a skiff. Yeah. So that hearing, the original hearing, happened in July. OK. And they're like, we're gonna get into a skiff, we're gonna make it happen. They couldn't get clearance or the permission to get into a skiff until January 12th. What? Yeah. So we're kicking the can further down the line. Meanwhile there was a bill that was supposed to be passed and one of the the big goals of this congressional hearing was to have a place for pilots, military, non military personnel to actually report, you know UA PS yeah, have a place that it's legitimate that they can actually report it because it's happening all the time.

43:02 It's happening to like every pilot and they they need a place of safety because this could be a national you know, security issue. And you know, one of the other pilot said, oh, we had there was a square, it was a, it was a a formation that would look like kind of like maybe a parallelogram and it was a about, it was huge and then in the center of it, it had like an orb. Yes. Do you remember that? That was another. Yes, yeah, that was another thing they saw. Yes. And this pilot was one of the pilots that had seen this and he said we couldn't see it on our radar, right.

43:45 Nothing was working our none of our like none of the actual like the radar, the, the the pieces of what is, what is it called like the dashboard and stuff. Yeah, it was like all of their all disabled. Yeah, all their equipment. Yeah. So. So, so wait. Yeah, sorry. Don't lose your train of thought. OK? Bitch, if if I had come to the This is the government. You have a branch of the military saying they've got this thing, it's disabling all of their comms, their radar, all this stuff. They've got a video of it they've seen. They prove they've everyone's seen the same thing.

44:29 If you didn't know, you would go national security. We have a national security problem with something we've got, we've got to like, you know, cat one alarm, 1 bells need to go off. Shit, we got some. We got some problems. Yes. Do they do that? No. No, they don't do that. So what does that tell you? It tells you that they know. They know something. Yeah, they know something. They know that it's not, it's not a friendly right, You know, Right. And it's not a foe or whatever they call him, like enemy or whatever. Yeah. So it's not Russian, It's not Chinese.

45:11 Exactly. We're not. We don't, these are not, you know, Canadians, these are not Australians, whatever. Like Canadians, Canadians are just like peace, man. Like, like, yeah, come on down, you know you'd have free health care. Like we fucking should anyway. So that, yeah, it tells you that they know something. And these pilots are like, yeah, we've seen they're and none of these anomalous, like, you know, things. None of them like the some of them look the same, but like there's so many different types. We have that or we also have one that's like a Red Square. It's like a box that's as big as a fucking football field.

45:55 And they're like, what is this? In fact, I thought there was one where it was square inside of a sphere. Yes, yes. They talk about a square inside of a sphere. Yeah. And they're like this. We don't know any. What the fuck? This is like something you draw during art class. You know, like to learn how to shade like shapes and shit. Like this is flying in the air and it's massive and it's not making any sounds and all of our equipment is malfunctioning like it can. It can turn off our you know, the our weapons systems and. And won't let us record it. Won't let us record it. We are seeing it with our eyeballs. It will not track on our camera, on our like our cameras and our equipment. We have to manually track it and hope and pray that we actually get it.

46:44 It's it's insanity and it becomes a national security issue, which is what they were really going about this hearing with. So the skiff, they discussed everything dudes gave. You know, the names, everything. I guess Boeing's also one of like the, the corporations that defense contractors that are doing a lot of work on behalf of the Pentagon, they call them like metal benders because they do the work on behalf of the government. The government hires these contractors to come in and kind of. How probably do you think to look at the to? Do work to do like they revert, they help reverse engineer like. Engineer the stuff they're finding. Yeah, they're like weapon.

47:31 It's like weapons contractors, right? Like that's what they do. But they're also helping with these these, you know, aircraft or what UA PS. So we had that skip happen. A lot of these Congress people came out and of course you can't talk about the specifics, OK, Like in a skiff, right. But there are a bunch of people who or reporters who were asking questions like what was talked about and they're like we can't, we can't talk about that. But what they were saying is perhaps a better question to ask is not whether it's a UAP. And perhaps the better question is to think of this as a multi dimensional issue.

48:22 This was an answer given to a reporter. Yes, by a congressperson. Perhaps it is better to think of this as a multi dimensional issue issue. Yes, yeah. Uh huh. So what I'm thinking is, yeah, they all went into specifics and they're like, so we kind of know what this is and we know that it's it's it's coming from our planet, our planet, planet Earth, OK, a lot of these things. Fuck me. Yeah. Oh, murdered. Yes.

49:07 OK, now I'm tracking. Now I'm tracking. It's not. OK, got it. I maybe I'm slow to catch up, but I I'm. I've got it now. So what we're saying to to those that were as slow as me, what we're saying is that it's not necessarily BLOB Bob from Planet Zoraf. Yes, but instead is a version I don't know even of us on this planet, just from a different dimension.

49:49 They're crossing dimensions. They have the ability to. So maybe, maybe not from this planet, but maybe they're in another dimension and we're just coming across here. That's what I'm you know what I'm saying? But that's making my mind melt a little bit. Yeah, and what the fuck? Like, who said anything? No, nobody said anything that this came out on January 12th, OK? 2024. Yes, 2024, both of these the hearings in July was 2023 and this is 2024 that we're in just this past July or January that that this information came out. Oh 'cause they just had the.

50:31 Skiff. They just had the skiff. Yeah, yeah they received more information and that information pointed to maybe not so much like extraterrestrial. These are non humanoids or what they also call it is like biologic. There were biologics in these like aircraft ashes, that everything's pointing to their just from a different dimension, and they know how to to manipulate time and dimensions. Good God, girl. Get a grip. Wow, trippy.

51:15 It's so weird. It's so crazy and no one's talking about it, you know? Pisses me. Off. I know, I know, I know. I mean, so this is still ongoing. There's actually a video that had come out this year, and they call it the chandelier or the jellyfish video. Uh huh. And this was released by a different guy. Had nothing to do with David flavor or Grush or Ryan Graves. Not Ryan Graves. Ryan. Yeah, something like that. Anyways, I haven't. Yeah, Graves. Graves. No whatever. So, whatever. So it was attached to a totally different guy. He has it grush, grush, grush.

51:58 And yeah, Graves. So there are three guys. Anyways, he releases this video and it was taken in Afghanistan and the men who saw this in real life were freaked the fuck out. They were doing. I believe that they're doing some kind of drill and they had just upgraded their their systems. They're like radar systems and they're seeing more shit, OK, Things that you can't see with your naked eye. You can look at it and there's nothing there. But when you're looking on this radar, you see something and it looks like a jellyfish.

52:44 This is reality. I will have it LinkedIn, the show notes, and you and I will see this. We'll watch it afterwards and it moves just like there's no, like, movement of anything that looks like a fucking jellyfish just moving through through space. Does it move like a jellyfish? No. OK, so but is it so? Is it like perfectly still and it's just floating? Yes, it's perfectly still and floating fast and you can see how fast it's moving because there's because it's it's near, like you know, it's near the ground and near building, so you see how massive it is. Wow. Fuck. So this stuff is slowly trickling out.

53:25 We don't know what it is. What we do know is that those are military personnel who actually got the video. The video was released. The government does not know anything about it. As far as the Pentagon Pentagon goes with like Grush and a lot of these videos and stuff that are coming out, they're not denying anything. Right. So these claims are coming out. Nothing is being denied. Nothing is being poo pooed. You know, they're saying they're they're kind of keeping their mouth shut on. It well, don't you think, playing devil's advocate, that they would not want to bring any attention to something that's crap just because it would create attention to something that's not real?

54:08 I don't. I don't believe that's true. Yeah. I'm just saying, I'm just throwing that out there. That could be the case. I think that it would be so easy for them to have the gather the the information or like show ways that it's these are fake faked videos or these people are are not legit. Like, there are easy ways to do smear campaigns or to disprove and so why not disprove it and be the if you are and you should be the authority on these matters, why would you not come forward and say that's true? Incorrect that's true. I think that they are hush hush because they don't want to confirm anything yet. I think that there's a slow, very slow disclosure effort by the government.

54:57 So they're slowly trickling some of this information, allowing. Some of the information. Yeah, so when when we say, oh, we we have a deal with the fucking 20th dimension, you know, race of fucking humanoid whatevers, yeah. When slime bops going down the road, you're here, not so. Shocked. Are there aliens at a fucking mall in Miami? Like, yeah, like it's not as shocking. Like, you understand that there's just multiple dimensions that we just haven't understood yet. So that's what they're saying. That is a lot. It's it's more so dimensional rather than extraterrestrial. Wow, wow. That's brings up a whole another series of questions like why?

55:41 Yeah, right, sorry. My brain is like going 1,000,000 miles an hour. So another dimension, like the whole universe could be different. Yes, yeah. Well, I mean the whole unit, the whole planet, we can, we can say for sure our. In our surrounding universe, I mean, it's a different dimension, like there could be planets like all around us. Could be. Earth, I'm just saying, yeah, in another dimension. Well, and what is happening to these crafts? Like a lot of these craft, OK, you find crashed craft because something goes wrong, right? There's some kind of malfunction with systems. It's how we know that what these things are.

56:21 And that's the issue with other countries reverse engineering these craft 'cause they're all over the place. We know about the ones in the United States. But other governments who says that? You know freaking you like like Russia's gonna get it or North Korea is reverse. Don't just crash in New Mexico. No, no. Yeah. It's not only crashing in Roswell, it's crashing all over the world and like, what if our enemies get and reverse engineer these things and then they start using the this craft on you know? The technology to do harm.

57:01 Yes, yeah. Who's to say they aren't already? Exactly. I I'm not like I do think that like China and Russia probably have some and I think that's why they're I think that's why it's a pressing matter for them to get it out get some of this information out wow. But I'll keep. I'll keep my, my you give me a lot to. Think about girl like my brain is spinning. I know, I know. And like all of the information, like the congressional hearings and stuff, you can find all this information online. We do have it in our show notes. It is DRY and there's a lot of you have to kind of read between the lines with a lot of this stuff.

57:42 And I know it is like 2 1/2 hours, but it is so interesting. Like I I I guess if you're like, I think if you're listening to this episode, I think you would be interested in listening to 2 1/2 hours of this talk because it like Alicia said, if you just listen read between the lines. Yeah, I guess you have to. But Oh my God, like they say some stuff like you're like, what? Like. He straight up says we have alien bodies. Yeah he straight up says we have alien biologics right. Non human biologics and and he is very careful to not say alien because he knows it's multi dimensional things that are happening and you know he see he's he's talked to people who've seen him right. And these people are are being interviewed by Congress people, they are being called out and asked for the first hand information.

58:44 So you know it's. Well, now that they have the names. They have some names and I'm sure it's gonna, it's gonna be a continuous thing that we're gonna, you know, hear about slowly. So as time goes by and if there's another really big hearing, I will most certainly cover it in an episode. Yeah. But pay attention, guys. Yeah, this is. Yeah, definitely. This is like, really? This is some. This is some historic. Shit precipice of something, I think, and I hope it happens in my lifetime. Yeah, say, I mean it is happening in your lifetime. I mean like full on. Them coming down and scaring the ship. Oh God, no. I'm not sure I want to see. They are too scared.

59:25 But yes, it's it's, it's it's very well going to happen in our lifetime and I think it's important to pay attention to what's going on. Oh. My God, I'm excited. Yeah, great episode. Thank you very much. Yeah, all. Right, guys. We'll we'll see you in a couple weeks. See you in a couple weeks. OK. Bye.