The Real Truman Show

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Hello, Bizarre story friends, if
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unusual, the strange, the
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I'm Alicia.

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I'm your Hostess for today's
episode and as always, we ask

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that you keep an open mind.
Keep a skeptical ear, but keep

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on listening to those facts as
we take you on our newest

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journey, The real Truman Show.
None.

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Well hello Kevin, my Co host
with the most.

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How are you, darling?
I'm doing well.

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How is you today?
I'm.

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I'm feeling good, I'm feeling
good.

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It's cold today, girl.
It's pretty chilly, but also

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we've been freaking me out.
It's been, it's been a, it's

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been a series.
I've it's been a series and I

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mean the last episode that we
had.

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Mama need a break.
Mama, need a break.

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I was like, I'm like Kevin.
Like after the Project Blue Beam

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episode, I was like, Kevin,
maybe we should just try

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something a little bit lighter.
Like we ended that episode

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thinking, OK, we're gonna do
something a little lighter,

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right?
And then what do you come out

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with exactly?
I gotta do my alien shit girl I

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love.
It yeah, yeah, exactly.

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I'm like, this is not light.
I'm not gonna be able to sleep.

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What the?
Hell, and now this one sounds

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super fun.
It's gonna be really fun and

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it's definitely a kind of a
little bit different than what

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we've been doing, which has.
Been like super quirky, not

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super quirky serious.
I mean, it is serious, but it's

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just a different serious, A
serious so.

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Deep and scary.
Yeah, it's it's not.

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So like we have no idea what's
going on.

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And this is like the.
Answers.

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Government, why are you fucking
with us?

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Yeah, it's, it's a little bit
different.

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So, you know, I did call this
the real Truman Show.

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Now, do you remember that movie,
The Truman Show?

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Oh, 100%.
Yeah, OK, So what do you

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remember about The Truman Show?
That it was a large environment

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that was fictitious.
That this baby was born who knew

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no different.
And when he was born, he just

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thought he was being raised.
And well, unbeknownst to him,

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that everybody in his world were
actors.

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And while it was all improv,
they had scripts to they had,

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you know, goals that they had to
achieve.

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And he was being filmed 24/7 for
his entire life until one day he

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realizes it's not real.
Yes, He pulls the He pulls the

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what the He looks behind the
curtain and he sees, Oh my God,

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this is not normal and someone's
people have been actually

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trying.
To I would shit myself like if

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tomorrow, like you said, Kevin,
this whole time I've just been

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an actor and you're your whole
life has been nothing but

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broadcast for the real world.
Right.

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And all of these like hardships
that you've gone through, the

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beautiful things that you've
gone through, the people that

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say that they love you and care
for you, they actually are

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getting paid.
They're paid actors.

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Oh my God.
They're paid actors.

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So like, oh, you thought that
granddad died, you know, 20

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years ago?
No, we just could not negotiate

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an adequate salary contract.
Sag, sag, sag contract.

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Yeah, exactly.
Right.

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And even just like knowing like
like so, so that movie was like

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in the 90s, like late 90s,
right, that it'd come out.

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Jim Carrey stars in it.
And it is about that guy, the

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guy who like kind of lives in
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He lives on a set and he doesn't
really leave, no.

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And they give him reasons why he
can't.

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Yes, to keep him contained.
Yeah, yeah.

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And everything that he thinks is
real really isn't.

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It's like, it's like backdrops
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And even the sun isn't real.
The sun's not real.

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Oh my God, it's wild.
It's wild.

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And I like, I think everyone who
after you watch that movie,

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you're like, am I on the right?
Right, right.

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Like you're even like Oh my God,
if I found that out.

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It's kind of like the matrix,
right?

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You go yes.
Matrix.

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Am I in the Matrix?
Exactly.

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It's one of those things where
you're like, it kind of blows

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your mind on like what
perception, what reality is.

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So in the late 90s, the late
1990s, a man found out that he

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was actually exactly that.
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So this is a really the golden
age of television.

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More and more people are tuning
in, like, like the late 90s,

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right?
More and more people are tuning

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in to television shows like
Seinfeld.

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And in 1998, there was the debut
of, like, That 70s Show, Willing

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Grace.
And we're really in the infancy

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of what is known as today,
reality television.

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But there was one place that,
well, OK, excuse me, Actually,

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you know, we did have some
reality television here in the

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United States.
MTVMTV was one of the.

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Yeah.
There was the true Life show

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that came out that same year in
1998.

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Real World.
OK, That was a huge show.

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What was your favorite your
favorite Real World?

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I remember the first one, the
first cast.

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That's the only one I remember.
Gotcha.

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But I I was so iconic.
It was so iconic.

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That show is so iconic.
Yeah, it had.

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What was it?
It was like it was a bunch of

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people and.
Yeah, yeah.

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You know, young people, Yeah.
Living in a apartment.

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In a new city that they're not
from.

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Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

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Like if you were to show me a
line up, I could probably point

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their faces out even.
Yeah, it's crazy.

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Yeah, it's crazy how I remember
it.

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It was.
It was a cultural phenomena.

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Yes.
And now it's now Big Brother is

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like it's a Big Brother.
It's Big Brother.

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It's Big Brother.
And because Real World was

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initially like a, it was a shoot
for like, I don't know, maybe

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six months, maybe that amount of
time is probably actually closer

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to three.
But it's like these are all

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young people who, you know,
either they wanted to be stars

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or they had something, they're
artists or whatever.

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They had their entire life ahead
of them and they're really

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trying to gain something, just
be on television in some way.

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My favorite cast was actually
the New Orleans cast.

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OK.
That was my fave.

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And they did a like a call back.
They did a reunion special.

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Really.
Yeah.

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And I fucking watched all of it.
There are some problematic folks

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in that one.
But like, they're like, they're

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always are, right?
Like we know often times, like

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in the beginning with the real
world, they did not plan or

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there wasn't as much control
over the shoreline.

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It was just really documentary.
Let it go.

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Yeah, let it go.
Let's let's like film the

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conversations these people have.
Let's, you know, let's create

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some some things for them to do.
But really, it wasn't, it wasn't

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like the scripted reality stuff
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Well, in the 19 late 1990s,
there was a man who found out

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that, yeah, he was going to be a
part of this Truman Show.

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And he, you know, while we're
just starting to gain some steam

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here in the US there or in
Japan, it was a very different

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ball game.
OK?

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Japan always knows how to set
trends, don't they?

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Well, they're.
They're always, from a

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technology perspective, are
always ahead of us.

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Always ahead of the curve.
Yes, absolutely.

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You know, they know how to set
trends, they know how to read

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them.
They're really like embracing

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this new idea of technology,
whether it's, you know,

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different uses of technology or
even like even new forms of

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entertainment, right, which a
lot of technology does.

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So ultimately there the
beginning of reality television,

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I think, and the way that we
know of like Real Housewives,

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etcetera, started in Japan and
it was Japanese game shows.

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Oh, OK, do.
You have you heard of any

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Japanese game shows?
Yeah, You know which one I

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really love is, I can't remember
the name of it, but it's almost

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like, do you ever see Wipeout in
the United States?

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They have the one in Japan.
That's where it started.

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Yeah, that's where it started
exactly.

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I fucking loved watching those.
And plus what they would do,

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which made it even funnier, is
they would overdub it in English

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but with Japanese accents and
say stuff that they really

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weren't saying, which made it
amazing.

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So funny.
So funny, yeah, but yes, that

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those I, I remember the kind of
the wild wackadoo game shows,

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right, were kind of like their
thing, right?

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Yeah, and it wasn't like a game
show like like we're used to

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here, right?
Jeopardy, it wasn't.

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It was like extreme sports.
And people like doing these

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tests that are honestly, who the
hell is going to win them?

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It's it's really meant to make
people kind of fail.

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Yes, because that's yes,
exactly.

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Because it's funny.
That's the funny part.

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And who?
Like oftentimes, you know, who

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are the people who apply for
these?

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It's not like you know a normal
person who has to work for, you

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know, a living.
Exactly.

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It's put somebody who needs
money, who's willing to do

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whatever they want, need.
Yes, yeah.

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And, and, and they're paid
right, handsomely for it or, or

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handsomely to these people,
right?

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So the show that I'm going to
talk about today is Sunsu Denpa

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Sholen, which actually
translates.

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And you know, I know it's not
that great, but whatever it

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translates to, do not proceed.
Crazy youth.

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OK, that's the show.
This was in 1998 and the show is

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actually known for extreme
situations.

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So and did sorry so did this
show in 1998?

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Was this the first episode or
was this like it just getting it

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was now popular?
It was starting, it was, it was

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really starting to become
popular, so.

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It had been on before that it.
Had been on, I believe it had

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been on a little bit before
that, yeah.

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But this is we're, we're going
to join it when it's really,

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really taking.
Off, yeah.

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So the show's actually known for
extreme situations that the

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participants were placed in,
like we were just talking about,

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right?
It gained really high ratings

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and actually even spawned a
sister show.

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But it was controversial because
it was the challenges were

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sadistic.
Ultimately, you know, they, the,

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the challenges were made by
television producers, right?

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Which now we understand that
they're really calling the shots

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and trying to make specific
things happen.

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And, and they would change these
challenges for the show's

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participants if the participants
live were doing too well.

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So if it was an almost
impossible task.

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And they were doing well.
They're like, well, let's change

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it up.
You know what?

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I know you're trying to walk on
a tightrope now you're going to

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walk on floss or whatever.
You know, like it's like we're

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going to really make it.
Oh my God, difficult for.

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You we really do want you to
fail.

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We want you to fail.
Like that's what why people are

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watching.
They want to see people fail,

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right?
And there's like this idea

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within within Japanese culture
that it's like the Yomada Yomada

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or Japanese spirit.
And so, you know, Japanese

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people are very determined to
succeed.

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There's a lot of pride in, in
succeeding.

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So it's like this is almost like
the perfect group to to get to

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do that.
Like now we have like Ninja

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Warrior or whatever.
And it's like, OK, you have

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Americans, they know what
they've been training for it or

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whatever.
You know, you're not going to

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pull someone off, pluck them off
their fucking couch and be like,

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OK, try to do this like, you
know, ridiculous thing, but you

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have a captive audience in the
Japanese people.

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Makes perfect perfect sense
because they're they, like you

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said, are so into perfection
when they don't see someone not

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it's captive audience.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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And yeah, the audience is like,
oh, we never see the side of

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people, right.
People have this like front and

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and that's like a very cultural
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It's been that way for a while.
And not only are we not used to

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seeing this as an audience,
participants have this fighting

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spirit and this like
determination within them.

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Because they do not want.
To they don't want to fail, they

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don't want to fail.
They they want to win in a way

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that I can't fucking understand.
If that were me, I'd be like,

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fuck you, I'm competitive.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Talk about competitive.
Talk about like, you know,

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feeling so much shame and social
pressure if you do lose right

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within the culture.
So so this show, like I said,

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there was a lot of, you know,
issues within it because these

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challenges were sadistic and
these producers were really

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making them even harder.
So the show received a lot of

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criticism for some of the
segments just being staged.

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It was just straight up staged.
Like I said, it was so in

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popular.
It was actually the largest show

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in Japan at the time, and people
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Well, maybe not US specifically,
but like a lot of Americans

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watch the Super Bowl, right?
It's like it's like this event,

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right?
Can I?

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I'm embarrassed.
Please tell me, are you a Super

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Bowl fan?
No.

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I thought that was what you're
embarrassed about.

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No, no, although we you know, we
watch cause of the commercials.

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Sure.
Oh of that's one reason to

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fucking watch it.
No, what I'm embarrassed about,

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Oh my God.
So I'm embarrassed about two

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things.
Real Housewives of New Jersey.

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You love it.
Fucking love it, love it, loved

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it like the original.
Right.

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Yeah, cast.
Oh my God, couldn't wait to

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watch that nightmare.
It's a train wreck.

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Train wreck awful people
behaving terribly like why do I

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want to watch this?
It's terrible.

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And then Big Brother.
I love Big Brother.

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Yeah, I I saying I it's so
entertaining.

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Why?
Why?

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That's a really good question.
It's a shameful.

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I think, I think there's some
escapism going on, right?

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OK.
That that, yeah, probably.

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So you might see like a
housewife and you're like, Oh my

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God, they have like all of these
things, all whatever they seem

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like it like everything's
together and like you really see

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they're a fucking train wreck,
right?

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Also their train wreck is like
your problems hurt nothing

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compared to their dumb ass right
you.

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Look at them.
You go, what are you?

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What are you complaining about,
you cow?

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Exactly, exactly, exactly.
It's it's ridiculous and it's

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like Big Brother, it's like
these are people who are trying

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to win being cutthroat and
being, you know, shady and shady

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as hell.
But you know why they're being

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shady.
We have to deal with shady

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people every day and you don't
know why.

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So this I mean it makes sense
why?

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You love it.
They I love it well, and why

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they love it, why they were into
this show, watching it so much.

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Well, yeah, yeah.
Like these, you know, 1 yes, it

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was definitely like just kind of
escaping into something, but

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this was also the beginning of
something that had not this was

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there were it was brand new.
There was nothing that was like

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a a reality show.
Like I said, real world was kind

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of like that, but they didn't
really stage anything at this

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point in time.
It was mainly just watching

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conversations, more kind of
documentary style and.

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Japan wasn't doing any kind of
real world stuff, were they?

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No.
No, no, they weren't really.

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And so, so it's like this is
really, we're at the precipice

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of something brand new.
So, you know, we want to see

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just like a new episode of
Friends.

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We didn't have a ton of
television shows to watch.

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That was such a huge one.
People queued up and would have

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watch parties at bars and stuff
like that, right?

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It was just, it was just that
was kind of the idea of this

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show.
My God.

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OK, keep going.
I cannot wait to understand more

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about this show.
Yes.

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So the show was really unlike
anything people had seen.

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It was exciting, and it was real
young people who were often

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budding comics or artists or
folks who just got out of

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college and were really looking
to start their life.

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And of course, these people are
fun to watch because they're

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still like, kind of forming
their ideas of the world and are

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often naive and willing to do
anything for a little bit of

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cash, Right?
Yep.

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Perfect.
Group perfect.

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I kept on thinking of shows like
The Real World, where a motley

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of people from different
backgrounds come together and

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experience a new town.
For a few months it just kept on

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coming in and I'm like, OK,
that's kind of similar to what

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we're dealing with.
But back to Japan.

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It's they were just interested
in game shows.

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That was like super fucking
popular.

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And reality TV, as I said, had
not happened yet.

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It really hadn't hit hit.
So we didn't have shows to

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compare what this show was.
Sue, Sue Snow, Denpa Shoen.

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Essentially each game, game,
game had a monetary prize

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attached to it.
OK, So it was within this show

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there were multiple players.
So it wasn't everyone's

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competing for the same prize.
It was multiple storylines

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competing for different cash
prizes and they had different

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rules.
Were they competing against each

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other?
Sometimes there would be a

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competition against another
person but mainly it was like a

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one-on-one.
So you got like camera time with

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one person?
Right.

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So they were kind of competing
with themselves like it was

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their own competition.
It wasn't like some group

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challenge.
Yes, it wasn't as much of a

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group challenge.
Yeah, OK, so, so like I said, it

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had a monetary prize.
And because it was so popular,

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you had a ton of of young people
who were trying to get their

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break and become famous, and
they flocked the show Despite

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that sadistic nature.
They knew that these games were

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rigged against them, but they
still went of course and tried

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because they wanted of course.
They wanted.

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Yeah, exactly.
They won the airtime, Yeah.

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Yeah.
So anyway, the show, like I

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said, it was multiple segments
and this, these were filmed over

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the span of months.
It wasn't just like a weekly one

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in one out game show.
It was like you saw these

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contestants from day one of the
competition and then the footage

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would be edited through the end
of the competition.

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So it would just be a segment
within the show.

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So I'll give you a couple of
examples and then we'll go into

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our actual episode that were
segment.

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So there was one where two
comedians.

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So this is two people who were
put on a desert island.

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A deserted island with no food
and no clue about where they

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were.
In the middle of nowhere, they

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were told that their ordeal
would finish if they built a

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raft and then reached Tokyo from
where they were OK, which they

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don't know.
Where the hell they?

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Had no idea where Tokyo is.
Right in relation to where they

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are, right.
So after their escape from the

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the deserted island, it took
them four months, by the way.

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To get off the island.
Yes, and to build.

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They had no food.
And they had no food, no

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nothing.
They were they.

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The only thing that they were
given was like a little, I think

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it was like a paddle, and we're
told to reach Tokyo with it.

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Oh my God.
And they did it, and then they.

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Yes.
And then they reached India.

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They went from India to
Indonesia with that same paddle.

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OK, So we're talking a game show
that's like over four months in

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length for these people who are
contestants.

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Yeah, it's like Big Brother.
It's like, it's like Big

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Brother.
It's like a long duration

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strategy game.
Yeah, only you don't know what

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the rules are going to be until
you're there, right?

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Right, that's the that's the
difference.

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Like a survivor.
Yes, it's very similar to

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Survivor.
Yeah, yeah.

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And this was.
In this example.

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Exactly.
This was before Survivor too,

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right?
So there's another one where a

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comedian and radio DJ from Hong
Kong, excuse me, from Hong Kong,

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hitchhiked from the Cape of Good
Hope in South Africa to the

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North Cape in Norway.
And it was actually two people

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who did this right.
How did he get to Norway from

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South Africa?
Well, that's the thing.

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It's like they don't give 2
anythings about how you do it.

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They're going to have a camera
crew and they're going to film

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how you do it.
But and these these contestants

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were forbidden to use their
travel money, so they couldn't

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use any money that they had.
I'm lost, how did this happen?

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Well, you'll have to tune in to
find out that's, that was,

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that's the hook, right?
It's like that's the hook.

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So they, so these guys, they
couldn't use any money to

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travel.
They couldn't use any money to

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eat like.
So they actually faced

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starvation and dehydration and
harsh weather conditions.

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OK, so at one point, one of the
guys actually collapsed in the

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Sahara Desert and was airlifted
to a local hospital for

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treatment.
Jesus Christ.

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And this was in 1998, before all
of the.

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Yeah.
The Survivors and the rat, those

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other hardcore shows, yeah.
Yeah.

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So those were two.
Here's another one.

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There was actually, there was a
segment that tested the

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loyalties of diehard fans of
Central League teams, which I

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believe the Central League is
baseball teams.

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So it's two different teams and
the OR three different teams and

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the contestants would be
confined to a single room with a

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TV.
They only showed their teams

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baseball games, so their faces
would also be hidden from public

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view, and if their team won,
they got to eat dinner and a

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small portion of their face
would be revealed to the

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audience.
If their team lost, they would

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get no food and the lights would
turn out, leaving them in

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darkness until the next day's
game.

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So if the contestant's favorite
team went on a win streak, the

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quality of food they would eat
would increase as the win streak

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gained, as well as public
exposure and and popularity due

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to their entire face being
shown.

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So like the whole public could
see it?

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I know.
So a losing shrink would mean

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that the contestant would go
days in the dark without food.

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OK so at the end of the season
the contestant would win an

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overall prize to spend depending
on how their team placed.

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So it's pretty hardcore, right?
This hardcore.

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Yeah, it's really kind of akin
to the shock reality show that

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we know about.
And I I'm going to actually

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place show in quotations
because, you know, it really was

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kind of torturous, right?
And we're going to talk about

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the most famous one the most not
just famous, but infamous.

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Infamous.
Of this.

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Show.
Show of of this show's seasons.

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Segment game yeah, that's a it's
a good question.

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I don't know how you like this
is like the most infamous one,

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the biggest one, the one that
everyone was shocked by and by

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the way one person was fucking
airlifted out of the Sahara

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Desert and this one, this one
beat.

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It and so did this.
So the one that we're going to

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be talking about is this, how
long was it another like a three

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month or?
We're gonna talk about the

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length.
Great.

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Okay, great.
Okay, great.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, like get on,
get ready because Big Brother

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here we come.
Big Brother has nothing on this

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one.
Okay great, so we're so this

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one's actually called Denpa show
Showen's prize life.

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OK so enter Tamaki Hamatsu who
is a budding stand up comedian

457
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,040
in his early 20s, which the
perfect victim right it.

458
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:20,840
Seems like all of these stand up
comics are doing this show.

459
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,280
They want some celebrities, some
kind of fame.

460
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,440
They're hungry, quite honestly
hungry and they want to be

461
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:33,160
contestant AKA victim really.
So he actually answered the

462
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,360
casting call from the show and
played up his like funny and

463
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:44,800
goofy side for the cameras.
So really the idea behind this

464
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,120
is, well, one, there was a huge
culture around Japanese

465
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:53,960
sweepstakes in magazines.
Have you heard of like this at

466
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,160
all?
Of course not.

467
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,600
Like, because I hadn't even
heard of it.

468
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,480
So at this time, Japanese
sweepstakes within magazines

469
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,040
were massive.
So you would buy a magazine and

470
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,920
they'd have various sweepstakes
that you could enter and they

471
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,840
would give you legitimate
prizes.

472
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,960
Anything like you could actually
win it Publishers Clearing

473
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,640
House, but like nobody won
Publishers Clearing House,

474
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,240
right?
This is like if it were actually

475
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,080
something you could win.
Excuse me, I was swallowing when

476
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,200
you said that.
So you could actually win

477
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,840
something.
And this could be anything from

478
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,680
like, I don't know, gosh, a
glass like glassware to shampoo

479
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,720
to, you know, car tires or
whatever.

480
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,240
OK.
So yeah, OK, got it.

481
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,880
So there were winner, there were
many winners.

482
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,240
Yes.
And typically it was used as

483
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,280
like a promotional within these
magazines, but there were a ton

484
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,600
of them.
So within magazines you you

485
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,600
could enter to win anything.
So anything you want, there's a

486
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,680
prize for it.
So Tomaki Hamatsu was actually

487
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,960
placed in a small apartment with
running water, heat, etcetera.

488
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,960
He was naked, by the way, with a
stack of magazines, envelopes,

489
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:13,760
stamps, pens, and was challenged
to enter mail in sweepstakes

490
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,360
until he won ¥1 million, which
was about $8000.

491
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,680
OK in prices.
Stop.

492
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,480
Yes.
So the beginning of this, this

493
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240
we'll call, we'll call it a
series, for lack of a better

494
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:35,720
term, yeah, was him being
dropped into an apartment naked.

495
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,320
This is how it all starts.
Yes, Yep.

496
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,560
And they say here are some
magazines, envelopes, pins and

497
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,040
stamps.
You're going to go submit as

498
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,120
many of these as you can until
you win X amount of money and

499
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,320
then then we're done.
Yeah, then then you're done and

500
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:02,840
you win a cash prize, which.
So his whole lot in life at this

501
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,360
point is entering sweepstakes
and he has to stay naked the

502
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:09,280
whole time.
So the.

503
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:15,520
Whole idea is or the idea behind
the game was let's see what will

504
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,000
happen if someone has to win
everything like they are given

505
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,920
nothing.
What can they get like from

506
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,880
these magazine sweepstakes?
So they put him in a room.

507
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,280
The now the room, like I said,
it does have.

508
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,320
I'm not sure.
I did say it.

509
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,960
Yeah, no, I did.
It has like running water.

510
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,480
It has a toilet.
It has like a sink.

511
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,840
It has a stove.
It's it's honestly like a tiny

512
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,600
because you know how small it is
in Japan, of course, tiny a

513
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,040
room.
It's it's a room.

514
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,840
It's a tiny studio apartment.
And he has like a maybe a table

515
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,920
and like a something to sleep
on.

516
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,600
OK, that's all he has.
There's nothing, nothing else.

517
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,200
There's not even, not even like
a cup, there's no utensils,

518
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,320
nothing like that.
Got it.

519
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,960
OK.
And they say naked because.

520
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,240
You get nothing.
You get nothing.

521
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,720
You get nothing.
And what fucking interesting,

522
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,080
what an interesting storyline
for this new contestant, right?

523
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,720
So, so like I said, he his idea
is, or the idea is like you're

524
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,000
going to enter these
sweepstakes, like riding

525
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,080
everything in to win ¥1 million,
which was like about $8000.

526
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,200
And he's cut off.
Starts with nothing.

527
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,800
Worth of stuff 'cause it's not
necessarily.

528
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:41,560
The monetary value, yeah.
So he's he's naked and was

529
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,160
starts with nothing was cut off
from any outside communication,

530
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,000
television broadcasting, no
outside interaction, just the

531
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000
magazines that he was given.
But the apartment I'm sure has

532
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,520
full of cameras, 'cause they're
going to walk, they're going to

533
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,000
record this shit, yes, and he
knows there's cameras in there.

534
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,760
He knows that there's cameras in
there.

535
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,800
Yeah, he knows that there are
cameras in there.

536
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,120
And there's also even like a
personal camcorder that he would

537
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,560
like set up and have like.
OK, like a little diary.

538
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,200
Kind of, yeah.
So the show is 00 and another,

539
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,240
another quick roll is that
you're not locked in.

540
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,040
He can leave whenever he wants.
So the doors unlocked, he can

541
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,520
choose to leave at any time.
Oh, if he decides I'm done, just

542
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,880
walk out the door.
Yes, but if he walks out the

543
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,400
door, he's done.
Right, right.

544
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,480
He wins nothing.
The show's not going to be

545
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,640
televised.
All this BS, right?

546
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,000
And this guy's trying to be
famous, right?

547
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,480
So this show was televised,
right?

548
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,640
And because he was naked, they
had to try to find a way to

549
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,000
censor his nudity.
And guess what they censored it

550
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,720
with?
The just the granular bars, the

551
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,160
granular little pixelations.
So they had new technology and

552
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:10,160
they used an eggplant.
So they covered his junk with an

553
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,680
eggplant with an.
Eggplant.

554
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,720
OK, an animated eggplant.
Hilarious.

555
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,200
Does it remind you of anything?
Emoji.

556
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,440
Exactly, exactly.
This is in the late 90s, right?

557
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160
And so it's where the eggplant
emoji came.

558
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,120
From.
This is where it came from, God.

559
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,920
Yeah.
That's holy.

560
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,200
So when people use it as that,
Yeah.

561
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:32,640
What?
Right.

562
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,200
Cuz like at first I was like,
kind of like like also.

563
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,160
Where did this come from?
Yeah, it's from this show.

564
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,760
That's where it came from.
So you learn something new every

565
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
day, right?
Anyways, Hamatsu actually lived

566
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,480
in front of the cameras and
there were multiple ones like

567
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,680
you were saying, set up in the
room with him as well as a

568
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,680
camera that he could talk to.
Nobody was on the receiving end

569
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,400
of the cameras.
It was just him talking to one,

570
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,760
talking to a camera.
So he wasn't communicating back

571
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,040
and.
Forth.

572
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760
Yeah, yeah, sure.
It was the beginning, like you

573
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,160
said, a diary or confessional in
these later reality shows.

574
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,760
So this was really before that
kind of thing happened.

575
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,040
Yeah.
So initially he was being told

576
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,280
that it was going to be recorded
for a future broadcast.

577
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,280
OK.
But once all the footage and

578
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,280
once all the footage had been
like compiled together, it would

579
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,800
be released in like 4 months or
whatever the case may be.

580
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,120
Yeah.
But in reality, the Experiment

581
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,560
Experiment was being live
streamed, with footage compiled

582
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,960
and re aired each week.
Like Big Brother.

583
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,680
Like Big Brother.
He didn't know that.

584
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,640
He had no idea and this is even
with sound effects which we will

585
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,320
hear some of that today, which
were present at frequent

586
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,320
intervals.
And that's where they use that

587
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:53,320
new technology to have a 24/7
television to show him live

588
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,360
using a joystick.
So you could like tune into his

589
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Cam and see him live at any time
from any.

590
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,600
He didn't even know this was.
Happening.

591
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,520
He had no clue, they never told
him any of this stuff, and they

592
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,960
used a joystick to move this
animation of an eggplant around

593
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,760
to follow him as he's moving
around in this tiny apartment or

594
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,200
sleeping or whatever.
Sure, pretty messed up.

595
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:22,360
So since he didn't have any food
or like literally anything in

596
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,720
the room but these magazines,
the production staff and their

597
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,560
infinite wisdom and kindness
decided that it was OK to give

598
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,760
him a few a few crackers every
day.

599
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Oh, that's.
So sweet, So.

600
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,080
Sweet, so sweet because there is
a lag time also between, you

601
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,640
know, when he starts sending
out.

602
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,440
All of these, the letters and
letters, yes.

603
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:55,600
And when he receives the prizes,
so they just give him like

604
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,240
crackers in order to kind of get
through it that he's not having

605
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,640
real meals.
OK, so so we're talking about he

606
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,640
was, we're talking about this
like random.

607
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,960
It's also a random selection of
whether or not he even wins

608
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520
these fucking sweepstakes.
Because he's like anybody, any

609
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,320
other submitter.
Right, he could be.

610
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,920
He could be along with, like, I
don't know, thousands of people

611
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,199
and they, he has to be one of
the lucky few who actually wins

612
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,600
the sweepstakes.
And these sweepstakes are

613
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,199
selected at random, so you never
know when it's going to happen.

614
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:29,679
So eventually Hamatsu actually
won some sugary drinks from his

615
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,280
sweepstakes entries and those
crackers that they and their

616
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,239
infinite infinite wisdom give
him were no longer given to him.

617
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,520
OK, so he's.
Because he's winning something.

618
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Because he's starting to win
things and we're actually like,

619
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,800
like they were helping him and
the idea was he had to be super

620
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960
self-sufficient and win
everything himself.

621
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:55,159
OK, OK, so he's starving.
This guy's literally starving on

622
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,480
live television and people are
just tuning the fuck in.

623
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,720
How entertaining.
I know.

624
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,760
And so so it's like as this is
happening, you start seeing him

625
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,880
from episode 1.
Oh my God, do you see him

626
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,360
withering away?
Yes.

627
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,880
You see him totally withering
away.

628
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,760
He's getting smaller and
smaller.

629
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,120
No.
Yeah.

630
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,680
And so, so like, they gave him
some crackers, but like, what is

631
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,080
that going to do for a 23 year
old?

632
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,080
You know, like they're burning
so many damn calories.

633
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,640
So he's losing weight, losing
weight.

634
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,200
His hair's growing longer.
He can't, can't shave, right,

635
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,120
because he doesn't have a razor
like he doesn't.

636
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,240
So he's not in great shape,
right?

637
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,120
That seems so scary.
It's so scary and it seems

638
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,320
illegal.
It different culture.

639
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,480
Different culture but also like
how is this not seen as torture?

640
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Different culture.
Different time.

641
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,040
Different time.
Yeah, different, we'll say,

642
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,400
different time, because
something does come from it.

643
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,280
OK, so he wins those sugary
drinks and so he doesn't have

644
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,240
the crackers anymore that he was
given every day.

645
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,320
And once again, when people are
giving him things or

646
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,080
interacting, they are not
talking to him.

647
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,360
They are told to not talk to
him.

648
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Just dropping him off at the
door. 100% or putting in

649
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,200
whatever the case may because
they also had like he had

650
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,680
sometimes where he needed to
switch a tape in one of the

651
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:21,640
cameras where it's like he was
just like brought the, the, the

652
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,280
tape, the tape and nothing said
to him.

653
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,000
There are very strict rules
about not interacting with him.

654
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,920
OK, so he won those sugary
drinks.

655
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Then he wins a bag of rice,
which was amazing because he

656
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,080
wasn't, you know, he didn't have
any.

657
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,520
Food he can cook.
The rice he has.

658
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,760
Water he has.
Water exactly, but he didn't

659
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,440
quite literally have a pot to
cook it in.

660
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,800
Oh fuck yeah, Yeah.
So what did he do?

661
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,920
He had to eat it raw initially.
Shit, of course.

662
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,240
Yeah, yeah.
So.

663
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,680
So initially he had to eat it
raw.

664
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,240
And once again, people are just
tuning in.

665
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:00,680
They love it.
They're watching it.

666
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,440
He he did discover he fashioned
a makeshift heating container

667
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,200
with a discarded bag that he got
from, you know, the prizes that

668
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,360
he was winning.
So he was actually able to cook

669
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:20,680
food, cook the rice in this bag
by placing it next to a lit

670
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,840
stove.
Because he didn't have a pot, he

671
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,280
couldn't just put the bag on top
of the stove.

672
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Right, he had to slowly warm it.
Slowly.

673
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Slowly warm it with the water,
yeah, until it just absorbed and

674
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480
he could eat it.
Yeah, how long does that take?

675
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,440
Oh my.
God forever, yeah.

676
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,240
Exactly.
So I'm actually going to show

677
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:44,920
you our first clip.
OK, so like I said, he did not

678
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,520
have any food and this is when
he is starting to win some of

679
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,680
the food prizes.
But I'm going to show some of

680
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,120
the some of his reactions to it.
Like once again, he's not.

681
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,280
He's in a room by himself.
So here it is.

682
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,920
He's opening up like a bag.
Of something chips.

683
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,760
Yeah, it looks like it.
Oh, he's smelling it.

684
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,040
And he's really hamming it up,
right?

685
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,640
Yeah, it does, yeah.
And he doesn't.

686
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,040
Oh, he's so happy.
He's eating the chips slowly and

687
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,080
savoring it.
Look at his eyes rolling back

688
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,120
into the back of his head.
Yeah, and it says I opened my

689
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,560
mouth widely, put potato chips
in my mouth, and something in my

690
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,880
body broke and went away from my
body.

691
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,360
I felt.
So good.

692
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Delicious blonde description.
Oh, bless his heart.

693
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,240
So he then wins something else.
Oops, that's fine, it's fine.

694
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,480
It was just more food and it was
just showing how, like, thankful

695
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,960
he was kept.
Getting food.

696
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,680
Yeah, well, he didn't keep on
getting it, but when he did get

697
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,520
it, it was like, thank God.
So appreciate it.

698
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,760
So, so nice because it's
something he could actually

699
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,840
fucking eat because he wasn't
getting any food, right?

700
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,240
So he's literally starving.
I mean, from that, and we'll

701
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:16,360
have a longer clip within our
show notes, but you can see him

702
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,320
going through like receiving
this food and like being so

703
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,360
thankful.
Was he hamming it up a little

704
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,480
bit for the cameras?
Sure, I'm sure he was.

705
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:29,720
But.
I can only imagine skidding

706
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,760
stuff, food, like not having
food and then getting fucking

707
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,120
potato chips or I don't know,
those look like little boxes of

708
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,760
ramen that he was getting out.
Who knows?

709
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:46,280
Oh my God, like that would be I
I just equated to being starving

710
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,800
on a desert island and then
finally getting potato chips or

711
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,680
food or something.
And you it's orgasmic.

712
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,360
It's orgasmic and he does like,
like you said, his eyes were

713
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,400
rolling in the back of his head.
It was, thank God.

714
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,840
If it were me, I'd be like, oh,
I'm like scarfing.

715
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,960
Yeah, I wouldn't have been like
been all.

716
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,080
He was all gentle and savoring.
I've been like.

717
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Yeah, well, and, and also from
the footage, it's like, you see,

718
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,240
he's very skinny and he's still
naked at that point in time.

719
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,520
Yeah.
So he doesn't, you know, he

720
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,880
doesn't have any clothes on and
he looks incredibly, you know,

721
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:26,280
gaunt and his hair was getting
longer because he doesn't have a

722
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,320
way to cut it.
So he's not cutting his hair and

723
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,920
he's not shaving his face.
He doesn't have a razor, right?

724
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Sure.
So he's looking kind of crazy,

725
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,160
but he's still entering these
contests right at.

726
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,360
Least he's winning something.
And this guy, like we were

727
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,160
saying, he's literally starving
before the cameras, which is

728
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880
disgusting.
And when you're starving, you

729
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,600
really eat anything you can get,
of course, right?

730
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,840
So having a preference for like
specific food or dietary

731
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,080
restrictions doesn't matter,
goes out the window.

732
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,240
So when he wins dog kibble and
can.

733
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,280
He wins dog kibble.
What does he do?

734
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,320
He eats it.
Yeah, of course.

735
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,880
He eats it.
Of course.

736
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,880
And at this point, he actually
no longer had the bag of rice

737
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,360
and it becomes his main source
of food.

738
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,120
OK, what?
Does.

739
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:19,920
The dog.
Food, the dog food.

740
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,000
OK.
Yeah, so the dog kibble, really,

741
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,120
because he got a massive bag of
dog food.

742
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,720
OK.
So after winning, he then wins.

743
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,840
All these prizes are coming in
for whatever he's winning,

744
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,040
'cause he's literally entering
everything, everything, every

745
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,840
single thing from day in, day
out.

746
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,560
All he's doing is filling out
these things, mailing it out,

747
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:40,120
filling them out, mailing them
out.

748
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,360
So these things are coming in.
One of the things that he wins

749
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,440
is a stuffed toy in this
sweepstakes.

750
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,760
Oh, hello clothes.
Clothes would be.

751
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,080
That's actually a great idea.
But his brain's not working

752
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,360
normally, right?
And he's probably, he's been

753
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,840
naked for a very long time at at
this point.

754
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:05,360
I mean, clothes aren't as big of
a need as maybe interaction,

755
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,880
like some kind of human
interaction.

756
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,080
Oh my God, Wilson.
One you, you went, you hit the

757
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,960
nail on the head.
Wilson, like Wilson the the

758
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,480
volleyball, he wins a stuffed
toy in the sweepstakes and he

759
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:25,440
carried on conversations with it
as his sensei as it was his only

760
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,840
sort of interaction.
So he has a stuffed animal that

761
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:34,360
he like, talks to and oh.
My God, how heartbreaking it's.

762
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,600
Heartbreaking.
Yeah, this guy's naked.

763
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,960
Rather than cutting it up and
using it for something useful,

764
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,080
he wants to find some kind of
comfort.

765
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Yeah, terrible.
It's so sad.

766
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,480
So he actually never wins any
kind of clothing.

767
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,320
The only thing that's close to
it that he could actually wear

768
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,480
were ladies underwear and they
were way too small for him to

769
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,280
even use.
He of course he probably tried,

770
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,000
but he also didn't win anything
to trim his facial hair and

771
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:10,200
fingernails or beard.
So he did win other prizes that

772
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,800
he was unable to use, but still
that monetary value.

773
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,360
Oh sure, keeps getting up.
So one of them he won was like

774
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,280
movie tickets.
And then he also won a bicycle,

775
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,400
and he actually adapted the
bicycle into a stationary bike

776
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,920
he found a way to make.
A stationary bike, yeah.

777
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,520
I mean, or just like something
different to do right, I guess,

778
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,200
yeah.
It's not like you have the

779
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,800
energy to do that.
Right, he's like, he's like, I

780
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,560
just want to do something
different instead of like laying

781
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,360
down cuz once again, he when he
was not entering like these

782
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,840
sweepstakes.
Wow, he was sleeping off the

783
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,440
room.
Yeah, that's how he's doing.

784
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,080
He's sleeping to do.
And you don't have any energy

785
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
because you are quite literally
starving.

786
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,920
So you're trying to conserve any
energy you have for that.

787
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,160
It's super inhumane.
So he, like I said, he adapted

788
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,720
the bike into a stationary bike.
And then he won a television

789
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,760
set.
And at first he was unable to

790
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,600
use it because there were no
cables or antenna hookup in the

791
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,840
apartment, which was actually
intentional by the producers.

792
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,560
Sure, because they didn't want
him to know.

793
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,560
Him to know what was happening.
That he was already on TV.

794
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Of course, right.
Yeah.

795
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,320
So later on he would actually
win a PlayStation game and a

796
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:33,720
copy of the train similar
simulator game which also

797
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,400
accompanied the controller
needed to play it.

798
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,560
So this show, like I said, the
show was insanely popular to the

799
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,200
point that every single Japanese
household was tuning in.

800
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,800
They we were fighting for him.
They're like he has nothing.

801
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,800
He's also.
I bet the products he was

802
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:56,120
winning oh probably was like,
oh, I want one of those or let's

803
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,200
get some that looks good or.
It was like free advertisement.

804
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,920
I mean, in in retrospect, it
would have been a great idea,

805
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,680
right?
But that's not what was going

806
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,600
on.
They were just trying in

807
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,160
whatever capacity that they
could to actually, he was just

808
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,560
trying to win.
So everyone's tuning in.

809
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,280
It is like the hot thing to
watch.

810
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,800
And mainly they are tuning in to
see him for his segment.

811
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Nobody's tuning in for the guys
who are hitchhiking up to, you

812
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,360
know, and getting medevac evac D
up.

813
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,760
They're falling in love with him
as a person and they're rooting

814
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,720
for him.
They want him to win against all

815
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:32,520
odds, right?
Because that's exactly what he's

816
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,480
facing.
So with that, people were trying

817
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,840
to find out where the hell he
was based on his surroundings.

818
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,960
They know he's in an apartment
somewhere, so producers were

819
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,720
actually forced to find a new
place for.

820
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,240
Because people were drilling in
on it How?

821
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,520
That's crazy.
Oh, they were like looking there

822
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,760
saying, oh, this looks very
similar to an apartment that,

823
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,400
you know, I see I lived in or
someone I knew lived in.

824
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,360
They said it's in this area.
So like people are zoning in on

825
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,440
where he's at.
Oh, and they had to move him.

826
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,880
They had to move him because he
was not done and this was like

827
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,920
their number one show.
They can't.

828
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,920
He's the star of the show.
He doesn't even know it because

829
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,120
he doesn't think that it's
being.

830
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Right.
But he's the star.

831
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,800
They have to try to keep him,
you know, out in the dark,

832
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,000
essentially, because if he knew
how popular he was and he was

833
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,880
already being televised, it
could potentially change the way

834
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,720
he's interacting with a. 100%
the camera 100%.

835
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,040
Yeah, and you'd be like, Oh,
well, I'm just gonna leave, I'm

836
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,480
gonna step out because remember,
that door's unlocked at all

837
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,600
times, and he's chosen due to
that Japanese, like, fighting

838
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,360
spirit, right?
He doesn't even think this is a

839
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,960
thing at this point.
He hasn't.

840
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,680
He's like.
I'm in a finish the show and

841
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,760
then I'm gonna leave.
He doesn't know that it's being

842
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,440
live.
Like they're live editing it and

843
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,800
and there's a Cam at all times
to watch him.

844
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,760
So like people aren't just
watching him from the television

845
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,760
show.
They're also watching like him

846
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,880
from the actual cams that are
set up in different areas.

847
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,520
So they have to find a new space
from the original location

848
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,280
because people are zeroing in.
And so Hamas was actually

849
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,520
transported blindfolded and far
away from the original location.

850
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,560
So they they uncover his eyes,
they move him, uncover his eyes,

851
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:29,640
and he's then in a very similar
apartment, OK, along with all of

852
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,840
his previously 1 possessions.
So they moved everything that he

853
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,200
had in that.
So it's like it's just a new

854
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,960
box.
It's a new, essentially a new

855
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,040
box.
So when Hamatsu questioned if he

856
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:47,440
had completed the challenge, he
was told because he was like, I

857
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,960
don't, he couldn't keep track of
how much money it was, but he's

858
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,920
like, surely I'm kind of close
to it.

859
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,280
And remember, nobody's told to
interact with him.

860
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,080
He's just being like blindfolded
in these like vans.

861
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,400
He doesn't know where he's
going.

862
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,080
They said, you know what?
They don't answer his question.

863
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,200
He was actually told instead
that there was a change of space

864
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,000
to to this new address to, to
give him better luck.

865
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,520
That's like the reason that they
said that they're moving him.

866
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,080
OK.
So once again, he's like

867
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,440
sweepstakes writing day in, day
out to keep going.

868
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,200
Yeah.
Talking to a stuffed animal

869
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,160
because he had no interaction
with the outside world.

870
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,320
And he's lonely as hell and
starting to go a little fucking

871
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,560
crazy.
Production moves him again after

872
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,480
a long streak of misfortune in
his entries, so he's like.

873
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,240
Now he's not winning anything.
He's.

874
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,400
Winning nothing.
Nothing's coming in.

875
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,680
Oh God.
In reality, really, it's because

876
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,560
they're trying to make this
fucking show a little bit more

877
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,920
interesting.
Because he's not winning

878
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,120
anything, so they don't.
He doesn't have anything to be

879
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,560
like.
Oh, this is like, oh, right, So

880
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,520
now it's getting boring.
So now it's getting boring, so

881
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,520
they're trying to change it up
because it's the most popular

882
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,600
thing to watch.
Sure.

883
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,120
So like, OK, we're going to
bring him to a new, we're going

884
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,160
to stick with the script as far
as he has to win everything.

885
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,120
We're going to move him to to a
different location.

886
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:12,560
So in this new space, his TV set
actually becomes useful because

887
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:18,440
he later won a VCR which could
be used with the with the two

888
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,240
previous tapes that he had won.
So he'd want one like 2 movies

889
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,000
at this point and he would later
win that a PlayStation.

890
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,880
So he would actually end up
playing this game for multiple

891
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,840
days straight.
So now they're people are

892
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,600
watching him play a game.
Right.

893
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,680
Why is he doing that?
Fucking comfort.

894
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,480
I don't know, like, like he's
been, he's not eating anything.

895
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,160
He's eating dog food.
For what else does?

896
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,040
That fuck sake.
Exactly, exactly.

897
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,000
So ultimately, he actually has
the fortitude within himself to

898
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,240
say I need to stop playing this
game, I need to continue my goal

899
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,280
of trying to.
Oh he now he's wasting his time

900
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,640
playing a game when he should
have been entering sweepstakes.

901
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,640
Yeah, 'cause then that's the
only way for him to get out.

902
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:05,080
But remember, the doors
unlocked, yeah?

903
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,280
He could just leave.
At any time.

904
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,760
But he doesn't leave.
He.

905
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,880
Doesn't do it.
Yeah, fascinating.

906
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,360
Super fascinating.
So he stops himself and he just

907
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,880
continues to enter the
sweepstakes collecting donations

908
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:26,640
and and he really just trying to
achieve that ¥1 million like

909
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,880
money.
So after winning a set of four

910
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:41,040
car tires around ¥84,000, which
was about 614 or $41.00 in 2024,

911
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,040
he actually closed upon his
goal.

912
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,720
He finally reached the ¥1
million.

913
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,840
Yes.
And he that was actually like,

914
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:58,240
at this point in time, it was
335 days after the start of the

915
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,760
challenge.
Fucking room for a year.

916
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:07,200
Yeah, yeah.
Holy shit, fire.

917
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,280
I know, yeah.
So a year he has been entering

918
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,480
into things, not interacting
with people.

919
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,800
He doesn't really know what's
going on in the outside world.

920
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,920
He can't like, call his parents
or like, you know, he doesn't.

921
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,160
There is no interaction but
this.

922
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,680
But they.
Are watching him.

923
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,320
Everyone's watching him,
everyone's watching him.

924
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,960
So after so he was eventually
like given or told about his

925
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,760
victory.
He's like, OK, you won.

926
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Here's a here's your clothes
back.

927
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,760
We're going to blindfold you
again and we're going to take

928
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:50,280
you to a surprise location.
So at that time, he's like, Oh

929
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,480
my God, I finally won.
You know, like he's been working

930
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,160
towards this for a year and his
brain's kind of fucking mush

931
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,960
because he's not had a human
interaction.

932
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,000
So he's kind of thankful for any
kind of interaction that he's

933
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,760
going to have.
So he was he happy, He happily

934
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,520
went along and he was, he
believed that he was going to be

935
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,640
getting a special prize for his
year of hard work.

936
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,200
OK.
Well, he he was supposed to win

937
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,760
something for accomplishing this
goal anyway, right?

938
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,920
Yeah, but it's like a it's, he
doesn't really know what he's

939
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,520
going to win.
Oh.

940
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,040
My God.
OK.

941
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,080
Right.
And it's been a year.

942
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,040
Wouldn't you be thinking like
what the fuck?

943
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,520
A girl a year.
Right a year like I'd be like

944
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,880
fuck this shit A.
Year.

945
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,840
A year is.
Forever.

946
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,440
Of not eating warm in a box in a
box in a box good of.

947
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,720
God Almighty.
Where all you have to talk to is

948
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:49,880
a stuffed animal.
Insane.

949
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,200
It's insane.
That's insane.

950
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:54,320
And they're like, I mean, even
if he did decide to leave, like

951
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,560
that was a concern with
production, with the production

952
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,640
staff, like, what are they going
to do?

953
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,920
They were going to try to find a
way to keep him there because

954
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,520
once again, they are the top
show in Japan.

955
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,160
They want to keep him there as
long as possible.

956
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,480
Good God.
So he was like, OK, I'm going to

957
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,920
get the special prize.
And the producers actually knew

958
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,880
that he loved Korean barbecue.
And so they decided that this

959
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,000
would be a stunt to give him his
favorite food.

960
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Also, he was so well known in
Japan that if he were spotted

961
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,160
anywhere, people would second
recognize him.

962
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,280
He has now at this point, he has
long hair like, like we're

963
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,000
talking close to like the length
of my hair currently.

964
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,000
And he would have been spotted
anywhere that he wants.

965
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,640
They couldn't do anything in
Japan.

966
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,160
They couldn't like give him his
prize in Japan or like or take

967
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,920
him to another location within
Japan because they would know

968
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,040
who he was.
And then where'd we get out

969
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,760
where he was?
So they actually took him to, to

970
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,160
Korea and he was given a day at
the Seoul Land amusement park

971
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,000
where he was able to enjoy his
Korean barbecue and ride on the

972
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,840
parks multiple attractions,
which he you could see footage

973
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,560
of this.
It's going to be in in the link

974
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:17,160
that we're providing.
There are multiple shots of him,

975
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,760
you know, enjoying this and he's
just happy and he's eating and

976
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,280
it's, it's almost like
everything's OK now.

977
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,920
Like he's like, oh, OK, finally.
Now he doesn't think about like.

978
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,480
Fuck you all I got.
Food.

979
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,880
Yeah, I'm just happy, right so.
No.

980
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:38,280
Where's this going?
After he finishes this day, he's

981
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,600
actually taken to another
apartment.

982
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,120
OK.
OK.

983
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:51,280
So 335 days later and Hamatsu
was once again asked to take off

984
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,120
his clothes and challenged to
enter sweepstakes.

985
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,720
Why didn't he tell them to go
fucking fuck off?

986
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,400
You remember that Yamato spirit
like later he is quoted as

987
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,800
saying.
Like that's the only thing I can

988
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,000
say.
I have some theories which I'll

989
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,760
show later or I'll share later,
but.

990
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,200
Why did he?
Why?

991
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,680
Well OK, so you have your entire
life at this point.

992
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,400
He does not understand what it's
like to be out in the world for

993
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,200
a fucking year.
OK.

994
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,240
His whole reality is entering
sweepstakes.

995
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:33,680
So when they say hey, you should
enter another sweepstakes, they

996
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,560
didn't know he was going to be
OK with it.

997
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,720
But he ends up this time they
say, OK, here there's.

998
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:43,320
So he's now he's just being
subservient and saying it's

999
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,640
almost like he was.
It's almost like Stockholm.

1000
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,960
It's like, yes, right, I'll do
what you yes.

1001
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,560
Yeah, anything, anything like
then you start seeing your

1002
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:59,440
captors as, you know, as someone
who has like your best interest

1003
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,440
at heart, right?
When in reality, they don't.

1004
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,400
They don't have.
This is sick.

1005
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:07,920
It's super sick.
That's why I was saying like,

1006
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,720
this is not going to be like the
the happiest of stories.

1007
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,920
But it's a bizarre thing that
has happened.

1008
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,720
And we're not even at the
finishing line just yet.

1009
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,280
So what?
Once again, we're at 335.

1010
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,480
Days later, he's asked to take
off his clothes and challenge to

1011
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,880
enter another script
sweepstakes.

1012
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,280
But this time, the goal was to
win enough money to afford a

1013
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,360
flight on Japan Airlines to
return home.

1014
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,320
OK, really, they wanted to keep
him on this show.

1015
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,680
So they all right, So they took
him right?

1016
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,480
They took him from Japan to
Korea.

1017
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,080
To get Korean Barbara.
To get his great day.

1018
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,480
Then they lock him in a box in
Korea and go bitch, now you've

1019
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,680
got to get home when you're
going to get home.

1020
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,720
Yeah.
Fucking torturous kidnapping.

1021
00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:00,720
Yes 100% it is and like but once
again the doors unlocked he can

1022
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:04,120
leave at any time.
This is fucking nuts dude.

1023
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:06,440
You didn't know it was going to
go in this direction.

1024
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,160
Did you?
No, I didn't.

1025
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,920
Yeah, I didn't.
OK, so so they're telling him he

1026
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,040
has to win a.
Money to get home, yes.

1027
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,200
And they want to keep him on the
show.

1028
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,240
They found another way to
exploit it, right?

1029
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:23,320
And this time he was actually
very quick to win, so they

1030
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,440
changed the rules.
Oh my God, of course they did.

1031
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,160
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like all that.
Well, we need to have continue

1032
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,280
to have these.
What are we gonna do?

1033
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,600
And he's not there.
So after several weeks of

1034
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,280
entering competitions, it was
revised a few times.

1035
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Actually.
First they said OK, you have to

1036
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,160
be able to afford a business
class ticket.

1037
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,560
Oh my God.
Then it was first class Oh.

1038
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,600
My.
God.

1039
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,600
And these goals were also met in
a matter of weeks.

1040
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,600
So each time they're like, OK,
here's the thing.

1041
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,400
He's meeting him.
He's meeting them.

1042
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,280
Yeah.
Yeah.

1043
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,320
So when Hamatsu had won enough
to return to Japan, he was then

1044
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,400
again.
In Ultra premium Platinum first

1045
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,720
class.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, with a

1046
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,000
Butler on the side and like,
yes, all this shit.

1047
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,640
Yeah, he finally he wins enough
and he does it in record time

1048
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,560
and IA part of me is like, I
wonder if they saw his name and

1049
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,640
we're like, this is cruel.
We need to get if we see his

1050
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,520
name, we're going to give him
yes, give him whatever this is.

1051
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,560
Maybe you're right.
Maybe like these.

1052
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,840
Because it's been so long, so
many people know who he is.

1053
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,560
Entire, probably the entirety of
Japan knows who he is.

1054
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,000
Absolutely.
And at this point, you're right.

1055
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,280
People are probably like, Oh my
God, is that him?

1056
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,600
Fucking give it.
Make him win.

1057
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,200
That's him.
Like we're looking out, we're we

1058
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,160
have this sweepstakes, we know
we're going to try to find his

1059
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,920
entry and we're going to give
him the prize.

1060
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,400
Good God, that's, I mean, that's
just a theory I have.

1061
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,360
It makes sense.
I think so too.

1062
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,560
So he makes it in a matter of
weeks.

1063
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,280
And when he had won enough to
return to Japan, he was then

1064
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:01,720
again blindfolded, clothed and
taken to another apartment in

1065
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:08,120
Japan when he was he.
So he was given clothes, right?

1066
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,840
He's moved to a different
location.

1067
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,720
He goes into this location and
when the blindfolds like

1068
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,600
another.
OK.

1069
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,880
He sees that it's another
apartment in Japan, another tiny

1070
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:26,280
place, so he instinctively takes
his clothes off.

1071
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:32,160
And when the And then he was
expecting that the challenge was

1072
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,680
actually continuing and he was
never winning.

1073
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,720
However, something very
different happens.

1074
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,720
The walls of the apartment fall
away to reveal that he was

1075
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,840
actually in ATV studio with a
huge live audience.

1076
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,480
Oh my.
God.

1077
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,640
Who began applauding him for
succeeding at the challenge.

1078
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,160
And we're going to watch exactly
that happen right now.

1079
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:11,800
Oh my God, this is sick.
So they're telling him Congrats

1080
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,480
on hitting your goal.
Basically, it's a it's a massive

1081
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:22,360
live studio audience and he just
looks shocked.

1082
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,280
Everyone's clapping for him.
Once again, this is the biggest

1083
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,840
show.
He's not had any kind of human

1084
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,480
interaction.
Oh my God.

1085
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,000
OK, right.
No human interaction.

1086
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,760
He thought that he was just
going to be put into another.

1087
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,600
His face says it all.
He he's it's stunned.

1088
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,440
He's he's stuck.
He's like.

1089
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,120
Stunned.
Stuck.

1090
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,280
Traumatized.
Oh my God.

1091
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,880
They open, they put him in a
box, a quite literal box, move

1092
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,600
the box onto a stage where there
is, there are so many people, so

1093
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,280
I'm sure the whole studio
audience we're told.

1094
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,960
Be quiet.
Yeah, stay quiet.

1095
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:11,040
As you're coming in, we're going
to open up all of the walls and

1096
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,960
we're going to tell him
congratulations.

1097
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:18,280
And in that, God, it looks it's
like kind of like really fucked

1098
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,200
up how stoked everyone is in the
audience.

1099
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,680
Oh, you finally won.
We're so happy for you.

1100
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,440
Yay.
Like, we get to be a part of

1101
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,200
this and it's like, you get to
be a part of torturing a fucking

1102
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,240
man.
OK, Wow.

1103
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,160
Oh my.
God, that's crazy.

1104
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,120
So once again he is so confused
by.

1105
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,920
This so confused and.
One of the main things.

1106
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,240
Sitting there naked with a
pillow on his lap.

1107
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,720
Yes, yeah.
Well, and he wasn't, he

1108
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,720
initially did not have a pillow
on his lap.

1109
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,360
I think it was like right next
to him or something, but he

1110
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,280
moved it as the walls were being
opened up around him.

1111
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,120
Sure.
Because he had no idea.

1112
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,360
Like he was totally naked once
again.

1113
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,720
Remember he had clothes on
before he entered into this

1114
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:03,960
space.
He took them off.

1115
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,480
They had blindfolded him and
brought him into a different

1116
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,320
room.
They didn't say anything to him,

1117
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,520
he just took off.
Instinctively.

1118
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,400
Clothes instinctively thinking
that's exactly what was expected

1119
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,760
of him and so then that's so
gross.

1120
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,360
He sees there are a ton of
people, grabs the pillow and

1121
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,280
covers himself because remember,
he did not realize that this

1122
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,960
show had been broadcast.
Right.

1123
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,600
He's he doesn't know what's
happening.

1124
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,160
No idea, no idea, and the whole
reaction of a studio audience in

1125
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,880
general, like rooting for you,
would be shocking within itself.

1126
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,240
Yeah, you're like, why am I
here?

1127
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,160
What are you cheering at?
Exactly like what, like what is

1128
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,800
what is going on?
How is this like, what is this

1129
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,640
reality?
And so I'm actually going to

1130
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,000
show you his initial reaction
now.

1131
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,160
Oh.
Good Lord, yeah, now that he's

1132
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,960
seen the entire.
Audience, the entire audience.

1133
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,840
So it says, you know, the the
hosts are coming up to him and

1134
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:04,560
saying, you know, may I come in?
This is not my home, he said.

1135
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:09,480
My house collapsed.
And everyone's laughing about

1136
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:16,200
that, but he's really confused.
This is your house.

1137
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,040
Then I found many people.
Why are they all laughing?

1138
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:30,000
And he's like staring at them,
almost like a an animal being

1139
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:37,400
watched.
Congratulations.

1140
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,240
So this is like.
This is the beginning, yeah.

1141
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:44,280
It's the beginning.
Oh my God, that's heartbreaking.

1142
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So.

1143
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,440
So that was like, he had no
idea.

1144
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,320
And like, all of this stuff is
coming at him.

1145
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,400
Like, how do all these people
know me?

1146
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,840
What is going on?
And you know, one thing I kept

1147
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,440
on asking was like, why did he
decide to just take his clothes

1148
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,040
off again after having that
blindfold removed?

1149
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,320
It's.
Because he was conditioned.

1150
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,320
Duh.
Exactly.

1151
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,320
I I don't think it's Stockholm
syndrome.

1152
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:16,360
It's like he that was his norm,
that's that was his comfortable

1153
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,000
place now.
Yes, it was all he knew.

1154
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:19,920
It's.
All he knew.

1155
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,920
He didn't doesn't remember who
he was before.

1156
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,440
It's like, you know, just, you
know, this is a man who has not

1157
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,480
been fed adequately.
His brain's not really working.

1158
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,080
He only knows this and he hasn't
interacted with anyone.

1159
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,840
And, you know, you had brought
up Stockholm syndrome before.

1160
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:41,200
And I don't think it's that
because he did later, even later

1161
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,440
on, he did not interact with
anyone and he did not have any

1162
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:49,800
positive like interactions or
relationship with the producers.

1163
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,800
So he didn't, he didn't really
have like this, like where he,

1164
01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:00,120
you know, had.
Like something I got some kind

1165
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,320
of a relationship with.
There was nothing there that had

1166
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,320
been, I think actually just.
Conditioning.

1167
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,440
It was conditioning, yeah.
But but part of conditioning is

1168
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,480
like, you know, you talk about
like Pavlov's, Pavlov's dogs and

1169
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,680
like, you know, conditioning
like from even like mice and

1170
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,360
stuff like that.
There is a term called learned

1171
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,320
helplessness, and I think that's
a great way to explain it.

1172
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,160
And have you heard of learned
helplessness?

1173
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,040
So essentially it's a mental
state where someone feels that

1174
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,480
they can't control their
situation and they stop trying

1175
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,200
to change it so it can occur
after.

1176
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,680
Someone's going to, I'm just
going to concede.

1177
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,520
Yes.
It's not worth it.

1178
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,080
It's easier to just continue the
path that I've been given.

1179
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,560
Yeah, adapt to it.
So.

1180
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,320
And it can occur after someone
experiences repeated stressful

1181
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,520
situations.
So what causes that?

1182
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,840
It It's caused by repeated
exposure to stressors.

1183
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,560
So when someone's forced to
endure painful or unpleasant

1184
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,560
stimuli or.
And when they learn that they

1185
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,560
can't control it.
This one this right here Hello.

1186
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,120
Absolutely.
And when they have a lack of

1187
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,680
control, when someone feels like
they can't control their

1188
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,160
situation, they may stop trying
to change it.

1189
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,200
So at one point he's like, I
can't, I can't win anything.

1190
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:19,120
Nope, I'm not.
He had no that was, he had no

1191
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,120
control over that.
Yeah, even the winning.

1192
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,760
It didn't matter how hard he
worked.

1193
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,720
It didn't matter how many, like,
magazines he applied to, he

1194
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,120
still did not have any control
over what he would win, which is

1195
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,440
fucked up.
So you might be asking yourself,

1196
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,520
like, how long did this actually
last, this whole ordeal, Right.

1197
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,680
We were at, like, 335 days when
he had gone to Korea.

1198
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:51,040
Yeah. 15 months, from January
1988 to April 1999.

1199
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,600
And during this time, Hamatsu
actually Diaries on his

1200
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,400
experience of being isolated
from the outside world.

1201
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:03,280
And this book that he releases,
the Diaries that he releases

1202
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,040
actually becomes a best seller
in Japan.

1203
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,960
OK, So when we were watching one
of the clips about him like

1204
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,600
eating, there's like there's
text about like him eating like

1205
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,880
the potato chips.
And the reason that they have

1206
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:20,000
text is because they pulled that
from his Diaries, so you can see

1207
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,240
his inner monologue and like
what he was going through.

1208
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,720
And honestly, this television
show really broke numerous

1209
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,200
viewing records during its run
with 17,000,000 viewers tuning

1210
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,560
in each Sunday night.
He actually received the title

1211
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:39,040
of from Guinness Book of World
Records of the longest time

1212
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,960
survived on competition
winnings.

1213
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:47,080
What a title aren't you?
Aren't you just so thankful that

1214
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,720
you that you're doing that So
ultimately, like he reported

1215
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:57,560
being hot and sweaty once he had
initially wore clothing again

1216
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,720
for the first six months after
his ordeal.

1217
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,800
And he actually had difficulty
carrying on conversations for a

1218
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,200
long period of time of.
Course.

1219
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,440
Of course, that makes complete
sense, yeah.

1220
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,280
Not shocking, I think it's clear
that he it had like a mental

1221
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,480
strain on him.
Did ya full on torture?

1222
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:20,000
Yeah, yes, Essentially he was
tortured on live TV.

1223
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,640
So, you know, one of the things
that comes up in this

1224
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,520
conversation is like, what are
the ethics of reality TV?

1225
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:30,200
You know, is it OK?
Right when you sign your life

1226
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,319
away.
Because, you know, they do.

1227
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,000
They absolutely.
They have to sign their life

1228
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,439
away.
Yeah, yeah.

1229
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,080
So you can't get sued.
Right.

1230
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,760
Yeah, you can't get sued.
I mean, you can potentially sue

1231
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,000
the company, but it's like, it
would be really fucking hard to

1232
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,000
uphold it, right?
And is it OK to put people in

1233
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,240
difficult situations on
television if it provides

1234
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:55,920
entertainment?
God, yeah, it's morals.

1235
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,720
It's totally morals.
It's morals come into play here.

1236
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,399
And here's the thing.
This cut, this is something we

1237
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,920
see in television shows today.
You know, we see it in Survivor.

1238
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,040
People will starve on
television.

1239
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,840
We see it in Big Brother, right?
People are given like either too

1240
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,240
much like their foods messed
with or their comfort like

1241
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:21,240
sleepings messed with, or you
even have naked and afraid where

1242
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,760
people are like dropped in an
area naked and they're trying to

1243
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,439
get to another place.
So Real Housewives, they feed

1244
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,800
these women so much liquor and
no food.

1245
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,920
That's like a huge strategy of
these producers to make them do

1246
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,960
things that are not OK.
So they really manipulate people

1247
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,560
with the alcohol, the lack of
food, it's all manipulated.

1248
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:46,279
And actually, so you might be
wondering what happened to this

1249
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:48,240
guy?
1000%.

1250
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,800
So he actually tried persuading
people to cooperate with the

1251
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,880
self disciplined like stay at
order or in April of 2020, the

1252
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:04,560
stay at home order during the
beginning of COVID-19 outbreaks.

1253
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,160
And he actually like, brings up
his own personal experience with

1254
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,600
it, basically.
Saying you can do it, Yeah.

1255
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,680
Yeah, basically.
So he, you know, after all of

1256
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,240
this was happening, his whole
goal was to be famous, right?

1257
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:25,280
So then he has this fame and
he's unable to succeed in.

1258
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,520
Keeping it.
Going the variety TV world, he

1259
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,880
just can't handle it.
Instead, he decides to become a

1260
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:35,360
local talent in the town he was
from, which was Fukushima, as

1261
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,200
well as he he became a stage
actor within that town.

1262
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,560
He founded a stage troupe which
was clock called Eggplant Way

1263
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,280
and he performed across Japan
with that stage troupe.

1264
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:52,600
He appeared in some shows and
and became an actor in some

1265
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,240
things.
He also appeared in a game that

1266
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,640
was not at all similar to this.
So it really does like this

1267
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,880
show, you know, kind of it does
bring up the question of the of

1268
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:09,600
efficacy of reality television
and ways people are manipulated

1269
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,360
for our own enjoyment.
You know, clearly we know at

1270
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,680
this point in time that these
shows are manipulated, but to

1271
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,160
what end?
You know, what is it that we're

1272
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:24,840
that we're trying to gain by it
like entertainment?

1273
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,560
Is it worth it for?
The producers it is.

1274
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,480
For the producers, yeah.
I mean, one thing that, you

1275
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:35,680
know, continuously come up, came
up was like this producer and

1276
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,680
the program was initially it was
cancelled.

1277
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,840
Ultimately it was cancelled and
it was related to a government

1278
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:48,720
crackdown to stop any torture
themed shows.

1279
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,840
So the Japanese like government
was like, yeah, this is actually

1280
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,400
torture and this is really
wrong.

1281
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:58,120
Right.
But there has been a revival on

1282
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,280
the on, you know, online, right,
You see people who.

1283
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,920
Because people will say, look,
I'm a producer.

1284
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,000
I want to, I'm obviously I'm,
I'm paraphrasing.

1285
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,000
I want to torture people.
And then people are like, I'll

1286
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,400
sign the waiver to be tortured.
And then people are like, OK,

1287
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:16,600
well, everyone agreed.
Right.

1288
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,080
Yeah, yeah, They knew exactly
what they were entering into.

1289
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,840
But do you fucking know what
you're going to enter into?

1290
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,720
How do you know?
How do you know?

1291
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,960
Yeah, how do you know that
you're going to be on a fucking

1292
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,000
television show for over a year?
It's like you have no idea.

1293
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,400
Anyway, it was cancelled and and
there is a webcast that is

1294
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,520
similar to it, but it really
hasn't taken off.

1295
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,800
And there's a lot of backlash on
this, like on from this

1296
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,800
producer.
He was, like, incredibly famous

1297
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,040
and was like the hot to trot.
And now people are like, yeah,

1298
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,280
it's not worth it.
And they actually made a

1299
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,040
documentary about this, which is
how I found out about it.

1300
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,920
Really.
My God, I gotta watch it.

1301
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,720
You have to watch it and it goes
into so much more detail than I

1302
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,640
was able to go into and it
interviews him so he's basically

1303
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,880
the star of the documentary.
This is coming from his

1304
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,200
perspective as well as people
who worked with that producer.

1305
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,080
The producer is involved in it,
but you get the behind the

1306
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,040
scenes like information and what
happened to him.

1307
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,240
So it's called The Contestant
and it was released on Netflix.

1308
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,760
So that's how I'd heard about
this to begin with.

1309
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:21,680
And I was like, we need
something.

1310
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,920
It's not necessarily lighter,
but different from what we've

1311
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:25,640
been doing.
Yeah.

1312
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,720
So.
So I would honestly suggest

1313
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,480
anyone to watch it.
It's really well done.

1314
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,040
On my list.
Yeah.

1315
01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:34,360
So I guess that's the.
Great.

1316
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,760
Oh my God that took a shitty
turn.

1317
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:41,000
This is not what I expected.
You're like, oh, this is gonna

1318
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,040
be pretty fun and.
Interesting.

1319
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,080
Yeah.
I forgot how dark it got until I

1320
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,040
was like, writing the episode,
I'm like, fuck, is there any way

1321
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,200
that I can end this in a way
that's positive?

1322
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,160
And then I was like, looking at
the reality shows that we had

1323
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,480
today and I'm like, I don't
think they're any better, man.

1324
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:56,800
I agree.
I don't think they're any

1325
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:57,600
better.
I agreed.

1326
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,280
And it's like, do we want?
They don't change the rules

1327
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,240
midstream.
At least there's that.

1328
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,080
Right.
But who knows what these people

1329
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,320
sign up for and then what ends
up happening on camera.

1330
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,400
Things I'm sure very well do get
changed, so hopefully it's not

1331
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,960
as bad as torturing someone.
But.

1332
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,760
Who fucking knows.
Crazy.

1333
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,760
Thanks for fun episode, it was
great.

1334
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,680
Now I got something to watch.
Yeah, seriously.

1335
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,120
Okay, we'll see you next week.
All right, see you then.

1336
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:24,840
Bye.