Project Blue Beam
Is it conspiracy theory, something out of a fiction novel, or as real as apple pie? The Blue Beam project was once called the craziest conspiracy theory ever created and the man behind it just as nuts…but with recent events, could it be true? Did the man behind the theory actually get it right? Join Alesha and Kevin as they take us on another Bizarre AF adventure into the world of the unknown, the strange and unknown (tin foil hat encouraged).
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NASA’s Project Blue Beam written by Serge Monast (translated): https://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml
Newsweek’s ‘What is the Project Blue Beam drone conspiracy theory?’ : https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/what-is-project-blue-beam-drone-conspiracy/
Serge Monast’s Rational Wiki: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Serge_Monast
Audio Sources:
Congress is briefed on the Drone situation, a response from a lawmaker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5vqljjW_Uc
Steven Greer on Project Blue Beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlboJl9-ZD8
Valuetainment:”Project Blue Beam" - Dr. Steven Greer Reveals The Dark Secrets Behind Alien Abductions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5cOdVZnIUQ
The Call between Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara on 3 August 1964: https://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/4002540
0:01 Galactic greetings, bizarre story, friends, if you're tuned in now, you are listening to the Bizarre AF, a place where we talk about the strange, the unbelievable, the unknown, and all things bizarre AF. I am Alicia, your Hostess for today's episode, and as always, we ask that you keep an open mind. Keep a skeptical ear, but keep on listening to the facts as we take you on our newest journey. Project Bluebeam. Nanu.
0:59 Nanu, Kevin. Nanu, Nanu. Well, don't you just look out of this world? We look out of this world in our out of this world studio. I know we're so futuristic. I'm loving it. Nanu Nanu, no one's going to know what that. Means, oh, wait, wait, hold on, Nanu, Nanu. That's how I did it. Like it's, it's a Spock thing. It was like Spock. Right. No. Mork and Mindy. No. No, no. But I mean his hand thing was like. This, it was very I think it was. Or was it this? Yeah, isn't that Spock? Spock is this. Yeah, isn't that, wasn't that Nanu, Nanu? I don't remember. I do remember. Was it OK? I think it was. I mean, go Robin Williams. It was like 1 of It was like 1 of Robin Williams. Like first. Yeah, it was the first show.
1:40 It was a. Sitcom. I remember the intro on a Jeep in Boulder. Yes, yes, it was it. It took place in Boulder, Yeah. Which if there were any like, place for, you know, aliens to crash, it's definitely Boulder, Co. Yeah. Yeah, they they crash and then they eat some granola and going like, yeah, you know, they have like kumbaya, yeah. Some kind of prayer, like yeah, sound bowl experience. Yeah. Well, you know, I know that last week we. Talked last week. Oh my God, girl. I know it's a lot. That was a lot. It was a lot and I would love to sit here and say like this is going to be much easier, but I fear that was actually this might be even more to add on to my God to your plate it.
2:32 Seemed like, OK, I'm sorry, I just have to say this. It seems like our series, our episodes, our podcast used to be so fun. It's like, so whimsical. Yeah. And lately with all this shit in the world. Yeah. Like we're getting into some craziness. We really are. Yeah. It's like, that was one thing I was thinking about. We're like, OK, we're going to do an alien Discovery series. So like. So technically this is episode 4 of the Alien Discovery series and. And hopefully, hopefully it's this and then we can just like do the fun like silly things again. I would love. That it would it would be wonderful. But you know, we try to be topical and, you know, here on the bizarre F, we actually try to find the strange that's not just interesting, but you know, it was something that you can relate to.
3:23 Yeah, that we try to share. And, you know, the real question is, like, when you when can you really be topical with something? Like, you know, one of our past episode topics was like, the last the story of the last castrato and like, the castrati, Right? Right. It would make a wonderful movie. Yeah. Hollywood. Call me. I'd be happy to help write it. But it's not topical anymore if you're not, like, cutting off, you know, people's balls to make them sing higher before puberty, right? It's not happening anymore. No, I think you're a little different now. Just a little slightly different, right? Yeah. But as far as like you know, I find that we were talking about this in the last podcast and I found like the last half of 2024 and the early beginnings right now as we're recording of 2025 to be more aligned with the strange than ever. It's it's like, no.
4:17 Doubt we are. We are crossing over into the Twilight Zone. It's happening. It's happening. Here, you know, finding, finding topics that read more like these current events is, you know, it's just becoming so easy and it would almost seem like stupid for us to not talk. About them, Well, it's our genre. It is. It's our genre. Genre. It's the genre, it is the world that we live in. So, OK, out of curiosity, OK. OK, yes. How often have aliens, conspiracy, distrust of the government, or corporate elites come up over family and friend gatherings lately? We don't talk about it. Shut up. We don't.
4:57 Really like you guys have not talked about like that, you know Mario's brother. No. OK, so I probably if I brought it up to my mom because like my mom listens, right? Yeah, and. We've talked about my mom before, so I feel like you know who she is. I, you know, I, I need to get her take on this topic. We haven't talked about it. And Roy, I think, I think he doesn't like to think about it. I think you're right. If I were to say Roy's just like we'll deal with it what what happens?
5:40 Like we don't need to be spending any or wasting any time on that right which? That's how. That's how my friends are too, really. Yeah, they don't. They're like. Where the weirdos? Where the weirdos for? Sure, sitting in our basements, like just until plating. What could have? I don't know what's gonna happen next. Hopefully I can make a tinfoil hat and I'll make me all safe. Yeah, no, I mean you talk about it, I'm assuming with people. Yeah, yeah, it's come up a lot. And it's like the more and more, you know, I've always been into the weird stuff and I can talk to you about it. But like, now people are coming up to me and be like, what do you think about the drone situation?
6:22 What do you think about, you know, Mario's brother in New York City that, you know, took the lawn to his own hands? What are your thoughts? Like these are things that are coming up with people that I have not. And maybe it's just because they know that we do the bizarre AF. They're like, you're a weirdo, surely I can talk to you about. It of course, yeah, of. Course yeah, I've, I've heard I've had a lot of conversations and I try to like anymore I kind of try to remain neutral and kind of like sit back cuz like if you're like, do you believe in aliens? I'm like sitting there. There have been there have been times that I've been like in a group setting and like Alicia, what are your thoughts on aliens like I, you're like?
7:02 Pish posh. I don't believe in that. No, no, no. It's. It's like I've seen things in this world. You're like a girl. It's like. Do you have an hour? It's like you bless a child. You have seen none of the world that I have seen. They are real and the government has success. Admitted to. They're like, OK, never mind. Like I'm like, do you really want to know? Like, you know, but it's, I mean, it's true. Like we've, we've done so much research on it, but it's like, please. Yeah. Like these are very simple things that we know they're to be. They're real. Yes, yes. So I just, I just feel like the topsy turvy, the world of the topsy turvy and the strange have actually become more akin with our own human experience.
7:44 And so really the question is, is, is that this, is this something that has always been around and we're now just having our eyes open to it, to this phenomena like we're talking about yesterday or excuse me, on our last podcast, is, is this, has this always been here? Have these these drones always been here and we're just now recognizing them? Well, right. Or or is it something that's just starting to ramp up? Yes, that's that's the question. I don't really have any. Answer. I think it's the latter if you want my opinion. Yeah, yeah. And and that's, I mean, it's, it's something to, you know, kind of think about as we're, you know, as we're going into this series.
8:25 So I continue to think about this and the topic that, you know, that we had covered the alien discovery series, drones and the orb phenomena was consistently on my mind. And the fact that, you know, we as people kept on looking to our governments for answers and our military for answers, like, what the hell? And honestly, it seemed like like the government officials actually had, you know, the same questions. Oh, let's see. Could you play audio one? We've received only minimal information, which leads me to believe that our federal government has no idea, no, no reliable information about these drones. Let me just surmise it.
9:08 What the government or this official says is like, yeah, clearly our military has no idea. They're not giving us any, any answers. We, we are just as as questioning as you guys are. Was that though? So they said that in both of those series by the way, but is the one you clip you were coming from? Is it the second one that they did? It's. No, it's the first one. It's actually totally this is based off of the drone. Yeah, it's a different one. This is based off the drone thing. So this this had happened in December where this guy's, you know, the press is saying, yeah, what is going on with these drones? Nobody's answering us. And he's like. He's like, I'm not gonna answer you. Either he's like, I can't answer you. I'm I'm asking the same questions. I don't think that our military even knows what the hell is going on.
9:49 Is basically what do. You think that though? I don't know. I, I honestly don't know. What I do think is interesting is like, clearly these people are not being briefed and they don't really know what the situation is or else they would have had an answer. You know, these are politicians who are hoping to get re elected constantly. They're yes men. So it's like they're not there to not give answers. If they have been briefed, they will in some response. Sure, because there's their responses have to be political. Yes, yeah, absolutely. So I, I honestly believe that, yeah. They don't know what the hell, They don't know what the hell is going on because they're not being briefed on it. So, you know, we had touched on it briefly on the drone episode, but today we're actually going to talk about the theory that posits there may be a concerted effort by the powers that be to make us believe in aliens being overlords a la Independence Day. Why yes.
10:49 Yes, we, we, we, I, I we were talking about drones and orbs last week. I popped that word in. This what you're gonna bluebeam? Yeah, we popped that in. Because exactly what you're talking about, like, is this what they're doing? And I cannot wait to hear what what? Give me the what. Give me the juice. You know, one thing that we actually always bring up is to keep an open mind, and this is going to be very important for this episode. Oh my God, yes, 'cause I'm sorry, I just, I'm going to preface, yes, you have to keep an open mind before you go because this guy. Wackadoo.
11:32 Yes, it's a it's Cray Cray. It's. Totally Cray Cray. Yes, totally Cray. So. We're going to be talking about some Cray Cray stuff. So just keep an open mind and often times, you know, do people get things off? Yes, but is there potentially some kind of, you know, truth within it? We're going to see about that. So Project Bluebeam, Kevin, what do you know, like just a brief overview because I'm going. To know that there's a guy that's really whack and crazy. I think he's from Canada. I think so. I think it started from a guy from Canada. Is that right? You're right. OK, Yeah. Yeah. And he. Yeah. It was like a big old conspiracy. It's like he thinks the government's like doing weird shit, which we know all know the government does crazy shit. Right.
12:22 Yeah, yeah. So I mean, that's not, you know, impossible, but the, the, the, the links to what she goes through, you're like, oh girl, it's, it's, it's out there. It's out. It's out of this world, if you will. So, you know, like you were saying, it's like some Canadian guy. His name's actually Serge Monast, and we're actually going to go back to the 1980s and meeting the man himself, Serge Monast. He was a journalist in the 1970s and 80s, and he was a member of the Social Credit Party, which essentially is like a political group who are all about consumer power. And like, that's how to make the, you know, make the economy and the world go round is just buy more shit and be thoughtful about your, you know, buying, but it's really just about, you know, economic power.
13:07 So which? That sounds pretty normal, right? Well, no, not necessarily, because in the 1990s he joined Alice and went down the fucking rabbit hole. Yes, ma'am. So it was actually mainly around the idea of the New World Order. Now I know it, I get it. You know the I like. Anytime you mention New World Order, it conjures up a litany of theories. Kevin, what does it conjure up for you? Freemasons. Freemasons. OK, that's a good one. Yes, secrecy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like big powerful people wanting to control the oh, here's a good one. OK, scepter from double O 7.
13:57 Do you watch James Bond? No girl scepter is them. It's the world. They're they're like in control of everything. Yeah, everything. And it's the new world orders. They're gonna. They're they're it. Yes, yeah. I mean really like, you know, the whole term. That's exactly what it is. It's like, you know, it's consists of it's many conspiracy theories. So it's not just it's it's not just Serge Manasse that we're talking about today, but it's like this idea that hypothesize that there's actually a secretly emerging totalitarian world government. Yes, Specter. Yes, OK, Specter, apparently Specter.
14:37 But like the common theme in conspiracy theories about the New World Order is that like it's the secret of power to power elite with a globalist agenda and and they're conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian one world government. So we no longer have borders. You know, everyone's, everyone's, it's one world, everyone's united. But there's like a a group at the top that's really calling all the shots and are the puppet masters. Yeah, gross. Totally gross. So that's the total. Opposite. It's like Star Trek, except gross. Right. I am. I'm so stoked that you even bring up Star Trek 'cause it does come as it always does. So, you know, Monast is, you know, down the, the rabbit hole. He's already gone down to this rabbit hole. And so he decides to start his own publishing company and it's called the International Free Press Agency. And so he publishes all of his works using this agency. OK, that, you know, I don't know, it could just be because he can't get anyone else to publish it. I don't know, maybe he's like a little cuckoo. Maybe these ideas are a little cuckoo and nobody will pay him to write except for, I don't know, the National Enquirer, which I'm sure they just had another bat boy series that was just too busy.
16:06 So, so he wasn't getting any kind of response, right. So, you know, he releases this story or this, you know, paper called NASA's Project Bluebeam, which honestly, as I started reading it, it initially reads more like Doctor Bonner's soap label. OK. You know, it's like, like you have that like Doctor Bonner's like Castile soap. And it has like so much text on it and all, it's like we're all 1 exclamation point and like all this shit, like, you know, one for all, all for, you know, whatever. It's it's just like absurd kind of crazy and like there's a lot of like exclamation points and question Marks and like all this stuff that you're like, I kind of feel like this does not belong there, but it's there, you know, so as I'm like reading it, you know, it it that's what it reminded me of. And we actually will have the link in the show notes of the translated because he was Quebecois, which is like he speaks French, like French.
17:03 He's French Canadian. So the original thing was actually, you know, in French. So gotcha. So what we have linked to is the English version because I cannot speak French. So you know, it essentially outlights 4 steps to implement the New Age religion, which he says is actually the way to a new world order. OK. OK. So you guys are ready to go down the. Everything has to be based on a religion. Right, right. Exactly. Always, always, always it is so. And of course he was like Christian, so he had a very like strong stance, which makes a lot of sense to him. So step one is engineered earthquakes and hoaxed discoveries.
17:50 So essentially, he states that the first step will be the discovery of information like documents or evidence that would cause the world to question their own reality and anything that had once been determined to be truth. Oh my God. Right, so I'm actually going to quote monast right now. It is quote the breakdown or re evaluation of all archaeological knowledge. It deals with the set up with artificially created earthquakes at certain precise locations on the planet of supposedly new discoveries, which will finally explain to all people the error of all fundamental religious doctrines.
18:35 So he says that his new slash fake information is what will be used to quote make all the nations believe that their religious doctrines have been misunderstood for centuries and misinterpreted. So can I just say something real quick? Oh, sad. When you have cult leaders and crazy people like Kim Jong Un who tell their citizens over and over and over and over and over something that's not true, but so much so that they believe it because that's all they know, how easy is it as a radical crazy person to set to go to say to your flock you?
19:32 Want to say flock? All earthquakes are planned, so if you see an earthquake, just know that that's the government. Right. Yeah, I'm just. I mean. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not saying what he's saying isn't real. I mean 'cause it could be what he's saying is completely true. Absolutely. But it but I think people would go that's so radical and so unimaginable that it's just one of those people that are like. It's just extreme. It's a lot like you like you're going to say like some kind of like natural disaster is like the reason that or like what's going to start all of this And like then, then, then the flock or the 144,000 will know that Jesus Christ has come, you know, whatever. It's like, like, yeah, what the fuck? Like, you know, I agree with that. And I, you know, I, I, I totally agree. It's like, that's very convenient. But you know, the one thing about this is that, you know, we're in the crazy territory.
20:39 We're in crazy town, OK. And and you really, it's like you kind of have to suspend some disbelief as you hear everything because then it's like, OK, you know, he's saying like he had sources is what he said. You know, when he was like bringing all this information out, he had sources that were like, look, I'm nervous. I'm like a Christian person. I, you know, have worked for these like this government elite or whatever, this new world order. Like they have this plan and this is how it's going to come down. This is how he found out about the earthquake stuff. This is how we found out about like the four. Yeah, When we go through all of like all steps of the plan, this is how he had sources. How he found them out. Yeah, he's not just like making it up or like prayed to God and he got the information. It's like he had sources. At least he.
21:21 Didn't wasn't praying to God. Well, I mean, he was also but but. God didn't tell. Him. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a human. Who was? People told him. Yeah, yeah. That's, I mean, that's the idea. OK, so this is this is Part 1. So this is. So, so we're gonna talk a little bit more. So, you know, we, we might be wondering like, OK, what kind of proof did he have? Yeah. That there's a, there's any kind of psychological control within this? Because he was saying, like, you know, we're gonna they're gonna do this and then they're gonna have some kind of control. So you're in for a treat. He actually did say I have some proof, OK, OK. And he did. And it was from freaking Hollywood. He actually cited Star Trek. Oh my God. Being one of the ways that they're trying to legit like change our ideas of what aliens could be, whether they're bad or good or whatever. It's like, you know?
22:13 Hollywood's helping. Yes, and and what what was what was the glac or what was the federation? The Federation was, you know, basically all one world Earth that work together and then we explored different planets or whatever, you know. So you have Earth that joined the Federation was all one order that did that like sought peace. So he was explaining, OK, this is how they're getting. They're telling you that this is going it. Would be great. It's normal. See how awesome it would be? Yeah, yeah, but but he's like, it's not gonna be awesome. This is how they're trying to manipulate. Yes, exactly. That's what the New World Order, people. Are saying. They want how amazing it is. We're all gonna be one. You're gonna be fine. Yeah. You're not gonna have to worry about anything, right? But we're calling all the shots, right? It's not gonna be good.
22:57 Another one was 2001, a Space Odyssey. That was another thing that he said. He also said Independence Day. He also said Independence Day was another one. This is how they're like. OK, well that's the scary. One, that's the scary one. It's like where aliens take over the world and basically destroy it, right? And then humanity has to work together to, you know. Oh yes, all of the yes, yes, that's right, we all, the whole planet destroyed them together. Yes, yeah. But and we all communicated work together. Well, Jeff Goldblum really did the work, but. Exactly. Thank God for him. So you know, we he said these all deal with invasions from space and the coming together of all nations to really repel invaders.
23:39 Another one, this was kind of like an out of left field was Jurassic Park. OK, he's like. Another Jeff Goldblum movie. He must have had something against just happening. Jeff Goldblum. I mean, he the man still looks amazing. So it's like, I don't I wouldn't blame him, right? What is wrong? What is this guy doing? Is he he's aging in reverse or just aging really slowly? So he said, you know, Jurassic Park is actually it's due to the theories of evolution and the claim that God's words are lies. So that's why he says like this is another way of psychological like kind of warfare that the this group is trying to explain. Or have you get used to the idea that like, maybe there is no God and like, you know, evolution is normal, blah blah blah.
24:23 Gotcha. Yeah. OK. See, Jeff Goldblum's in on it. He's part of it. He is part of the Illuminati New World Order. He is whatever helping. Yes. Yeah. And he's in Wicked too, which I have not seen that yet, but oh so good. I need to anyways. OK, going back to Step 2. So Step 2 was the big space show in the sky. It's what he called it and he was so he said, like utilizing technological capabilities. The next step involves a gigantic space show with quote 3 dimensional optical holograms and sounds. Laser projection of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to the predominating regional national religious faith faith. This new God's voice will be speaking in all languages. OK, OK.
25:19 Yes, which in the 90s this is when this was released seemed pretty far fetched. How the fuck can you do that? There's no way that we can have like all. Of this technological possibility. Yeah, yeah, there's no like, oh, it's good. Everyone's going to understand it. Like, how is that possible? We didn't have Google Translate. We didn't have like, you know, those earbuds that. Like Oh my God, I want some of those, by the way. Those are really cool where you're like you're wearing the earbuds and it live translates for you what the other person's saying and then. OK, Star Trek Communication. Yes, the communicators. This is how people could talk real time. Yes to all the aliens. Yep, there was a filter actually like in TNG, like the next generation there's a filter so and it knew all the languages.
26:00 Yep, minus like one, which anyways I'm going to go down. Sorry, I didn't mean to take you there. Anyways, so it knew all these, it was programmed with all these languages, so anyone who got on board, it was like a filter worked as a filter. So that's how they would do it. That's how they would do it, yeah. Which I mean they. Mean you didn't know about it then. Yeah, you didn't know, but that's how they do it now. Right, like as you know, as we were learning in the last episodes, like, you know, drone technology even just that is like insane, right? And technology like this, you know, albeit like a smaller scale is used above Disneyland. Like we have drones who do drone shows in like. Disney World, It's like a screen in the sky. Yes, it's insane.
26:45 Crazy. Yeah, so how I mean and. By the way, so, So what supports this narrative is that there's things that the government did was doing 30 years ago that we had no idea about, that we're just finding out about now, right? Technology, I mean, I'm talking about. Yes. So it is very plausible that in the 90s they knew how to do trans. I'm just making stuff up, do out of translations or holograms or whatever. So they knew that that was coming or that they were on the precipice of it or whatever. Yeah. It's plausible. It's totally plausible, yeah. And, and I do think like, you know, when we're talking about about, you know, technology, it's, it is important to kind of keep into perspective that like what we have, what we have is like layman, you know, is nothing compared to what, you know, technology is capable of like exactly we have like the dumbed down. Scary companies and the government that have a hold of Oh my God.
27:46 It's insane. So so it's like, I don't think that it's super far fetched to believe that there could be technology that's like this. We know there is talk technology similar to this currently, but like, yeah, could there be something that takes out the little earbuds where you put out a message and you see and then hear something that is, you know, personal to you based on the algorithm that you have on your phone or whatever You're right. Or you're you know, where you're located. I it's. That's cool. But crazy, right, Right. It's totally cool and crazy, but it's like, yeah, it's if we can be told by the Internet like these are ads that you want to see, here are like videos that you want to see. Exactly.
28:27 These algorithms know everything. Why could they not tell? Us Oh Ando does not to digress but by the way, Google just got sued and is paying because they were recording and people without their knowledge and sending it to advertisers. Do you remember ever going? That's funny. I was just talking about underwear and then I popped up my Google and there's underwear ads. Yes, hello. Yeah, yeah. Oh, these are pieces of shit. Anything for money, which is what we talked about in the last episode. It's like, what makes the world go round? What? Like, what are these people, you know, after money, of course, And power. Money and power. Money and power. Exactly.
29:09 So, you know, the surge like goes on to saying that these satellites actually satellites are going to be used to create this hoax and above every nation will look like a religious deity or prophecy that that specific area knows. Starlink. Exactly. Starlink is there. Starlink is there. I know it sounds far fetched, but we have the technology that could allow for this to actually happen. Currently we're in the year 2025. Like this is something that is easy to imagine based on what we now have now in the 90s, not like that seems like it was light years away. But I mean, I, I think that, OK, like, let's say, OK, you and I, we're, you know, downtown or something, and we saw something in the sky that absolutely blew our minds. OK.
30:08 Maybe it's the image of, you know, if you're Christian Jesus coming, maybe it's like Jean Luc Picard coming down and like and, and welcoming me into the galactic or the Federation or whatever, you know? Yeah. You know, something that's so galactic in nature, so like mind blowing, you know, what would it have to be to make you question? Question that it was real. Question real. Question your own reality, yeah. What I know? Your your own belief existence. Existence. Yeah. What? Would it have to be? Oh my God. It would have to be obscene, right? Not like. It would, because like we said before, you would explain it away.
30:50 Yes, we explain things away, Yeah. It's not just going to be like, you know, Robin Williams coming down as Mork from Mork and Mentee, you know, hey, guy, you're like, dude, we've seen these projections before, Tupac, You know, like these projections of dead celebrities that look just like them. The technology exists. It would have to be extreme. Yeah. So he actually brings up the idea of tractor beams being used in this phase. OK Allah, aliens, or if you're Christian, maybe it looks like the rapture. Do you know what the rapture is? No. OK. So in Revelation, which is the last book of the Bible, it talks about the end days.
31:36 The second. Coming of Christ. Oh, OK, OK, OK. So it's like the apocalypse, that's what it talks. About the seven the like the. Horsemen. When the air turns to poison and the water turns to that stuff. Yeah, and like there are plagues and blah blah blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so in the end, it's like this is how the the world's gonna end and like what's gonna happen. That's basically what Revelation is. Gotcha. One of the things they talk about is how every believer will be going like basically going up to heaven or whatever and anyone who was not a believer is going to be staying here on on the planet. So let's say you're a Christian and you believe that like when Jesus Christ comes for you're. Going to heaven?
32:21 You're going to be brought to heaven and like to, you know, whatever to the end of or to where you belong spiritually. So you're standing there. We're standing in the middle of downtown Denver and we're seeing this thing that blows our minds. Maybe some people see, you know, these tractor beams that are bringing a ton of people up to into the sky. Like aliens lifting cows up into the ship, right? But instead of us like some, some people might be seeing, you know, aliens lifting, you know, cows or people up and we're being invaded, right? Maybe other people see, Oh my God, it's the angels like Archangel Michael, and he's here to bring all of us home, you know?
33:09 OK. And so this is saying that everyone's going to experience this in a way that what makes them comfortable. Yes, OK, it will. What will make them question? Will make them question. Yes so if you are if you're a religious person yes and you're a Christian yes you might see people rising and you think it's the second coming of Christ. Oh, this is what happens before basically, you know, God let. Into the world with floods or whatever. Yeah, all the floods and, like, you know, all hell quite honestly breaks loose. Yeah. So you're seeing all these people be pulled up into the sky.
33:51 All the good ones are taken to heaven. And us heathens, you and I are still stuck on earth. Now imagine just you seeing, you know, hundreds, maybe thousands of people being brought up into the sky. Yes. What is your reaction? This dead air, like a yeah. I mean, yeah, you wouldn't know. I wouldn't. I'd be Yeah, my I couldn't. You couldn't, I couldn't respond. No, because you've never seen anything like it, right? It totally blows. Your idea of what? Reality is right. Yes.
34:31 So, you know, for me, my brain would be mush and I would hope, I'd hope that I would question maybe what kind of technology is being used, what's going on, you know, but I think like you were saying, I would be in a freeze type situation. I wouldn't be able to say anything, you know? No, I'd be trying to process rationalize. Yes, yeah. So I'm actually going to play a little brief from Doctor Steven Greer about his understanding of Project Bluebeam. So I'm going to play this and let's. See. Yeah. And in fact, the very famous astrophysicist Dr. Jacques Valet, who some of his work ended up in with Steven Spielberg's movie close Encounters of the Third Kind. And he's up in his 80s now.
35:20 And in 1992, he wrote in, he wrote a book and he had a log entry where he had received a 1985 CIA document that outlined for psychological warfare purposes, them using these advanced technologies that look like an alien craft and other technologies, to quote, abduct peasants in Argentina and Brazil for their psychological warfare value. Now that's in black and white. And so people go, this sounds crazier than the myth you've been told, and it is. But why would they do that? Werner von Braun and his deathbed in 1974 told a member of my team, Carol Rosin, that their plan is to create eventually and hoax a threat from outer space to try to unite the world.
36:10 Like Independence Day the movie. And it's sort of a military global junta of humans against aliens. It's all nonsense. It's BS but it sells well, sells movies, it sells tickets, it sells books. This is the Bluebeam project Bluebeam. Yeah, that related to that and, and I've met with many men who've been on operationally, like literally have been operational on those programs now. It went from really clunky stuff like the Betty and Barney Hill abduction. People think that was alien. It wasn't. So there was another clip that you had shared with me and I think I want to see if we can listen to it. Project Bluebeam.
36:53 Can you describe what that is? Well, that's another subculture term that's been attached to a series of projects that involve what the Pentagon, what they call a deceptive indication and warning or a false I and W, which is a false flag. And it's the ability to stage through very advanced technologies, an alien attack or an alien event. If you want to see a script for what's coming fairly soon, look at the movie Independence Day. OK, so the guy that I can't remember his name, help me out here. The guy. Oops, sorry, the guy that Area 51 that we talked about who did all the technology and he thought he was crazy until someone showed him the device.
37:44 Bob. Bob Lazar Lazar. OK, when Bob Lazar talked, you're like he's, he's like, not like this is like he's talking like it's facts like. And we come to find out it was by the way. Right, right, He was talking about. DW. Yeah, element 1/1/15. Yeah, well, he's talking exactly the same way like this, doesn't matter of fact. This is this is just like this is what's going to happen, right? I OK, so people in the you know, UAPUFO, whatever community have a few different opinions. OK of?
38:25 This. Guy or Doctor Steven Greer. So Doctor Steven Greer, we've talked about him before, right? And he is actually, he used to be a, an emergency room doctor and he's now I believe he's retired, but he had heard from multiple people. There is a thing going on. There is like there are aliens and he had other people that he'd known who had interacted in some capacity. And he's like, well, we need to tell Congress like the government needs to do something about this. Like maybe not everyone knows. And so he starts this like committee about like disclosure and there's a ton of people who are involved and it the world wasn't ready for it.
39:07 Honestly, I don't think for the idea of a disclosure, we're talking like over 20 years ago that he started actually it was in the 90s that he started this. So the guy has been on top of like UFOSUAPS like in this world for a very long time. And he knows a lot of folks in it because it's not like it's huge. You know, these people are, you know, it's, it's a small community of weirdos, which whatever. But this guy was still working as a doctor while he was doing this on the side. And he's like, I think the American people need to know this, whatever. So he can be controversial, but I do, I think that there is some, some validity and some there's something to what he says.
39:53 And he is all about disclosure and he's he's been talking about, you know, this is what's going to happen. And he has some sources that he's saying like within, you know, the first half of January, there's going to be some more information that's going to come out about disclosure and to not believe everything. OK. So that's, that is, you know, a little bit that that he was talking about. Now, I'm not I, I don't think I'm alone in thinking that all hell would break loose if we saw, you know, people rising up into the sky or whatever the case says, right? It. Would be absolute chaos. Yeah. You know, there would actually, I think there would be worldwide political anarchy. It would, it would run rampant.
40:39 And let's just say that there would be, you know, worldwide catastrophe, right, which would, you know, really open the door to true psychological control, which is what that's what our our guy Serge Monas talks about. And that brings us to Step 3. So how do you take control of a population? OK. OK, OK, I think. There's that's a question. There's many. But he knows. But he says Step 3 is step. 3 Is telepathic electronic two way communication OK? OK, like literal mind control? Literal mind control. Control the minds of people who are more susceptible and want some kind of governance? Sure.
41:25 All Hell's breaking loose. Oh. What do you want you want? Someone to you? Want stability? Has answers and take care of it. You want answers, you want someone to take care of it, right? Yeah. You know, And he says that the tech actually exists. And he doesn't really go into depth of, of like how he goes. He says, you know, this tech exists. This is something that CIA has been working on. They have ways to do it. Like, you know, things like radio waves are one way that they say that would happen. It's something that, you know, and you know, I, I think that one thing that we do know, right, the government, there have been multiple government projects that have related to mind control. Multiple, we've talked about the CIA mind control experiments that they've used.
42:15 So it's not like we, it's not like we don't know that the government does try to understand the population and control some of the control people. There have been projects, of course, of course, no after project, of course. So we know that that happens. You know, you were just talking about, you know, the algorithms and how they know exactly what you want, right? Yes. So what? Is, so imagine programmatically being able to do that based on that algorithm. Just send it out. And somehow make your brain receive the information and make you think that it is, you know, coming from you or it's coming from whatever. But sending your brain that signal. How many times do people say the brain is like a computer? Exactly.
43:03 Why not? Again, I'm telling you, none of this seems unplausible to me. Right. It's like we Why did people actually start wearing tin? Tails, you have to block it out man. To block out mind control, right? But it's like, you know, we're sitting here talking about this. This is, these were the steps that he said. This is how they're going to take control. OK. We're seeing that technology coming out and we it's not so hard for us to believe. So let's go on to, but still take it with a grain of salt. Step 4, universal supernatural manifestations via electronics. OK, manifestations through electronics.
43:46 OK, so Part 1 of this force of this 4th step is an alien or off world invasion. OK in every major city to provoke nuclear war. OK, Independence Day. Like Independence Day? Yes. Why so? The so they can. Can stop it. So, yes, so they can stop it. So one thing that Serge Monast talks about a lot is that the UN is in lockstep with the New World Order. The UN It would be the well, kind of. Like what they are right. They're they are representations, yes. Yeah, it's the the whole, all the nations together, basically, you know, making rules.
44:31 And when nuclear war comes in, that's when the United Nations can step in and control the narrative. Right. So what happened and? Then look, we saved you all. Yeah, look how good we are. Oh, my gosh, you guys are. So you guys are so lucky. Even though this is a fake alien invasion that Serge Manasse is talking about, they still somehow have the key to, you know, saving it and saving the world, OK? Are the drones the first step? I mean, when this was happening, I'm like shut to the front. Door. What is this? Is this like, maybe there's like, I don't know, who knows? Like what if there was like a cloaking technology that they're checking out or trying to see if they could like use with the drones, right?
45:17 And they were cloaked and then they could see, OK, well, what's public reaction when all of these things are, are then being shown? I I don't who knows who knows there could be a million things. OK so Part 2 of the universal like supernatural manifestations through electronics. We had Part 1 which was an alien off world invasion to provoke nuclear war. Part 2 is to make the Christians believe that the rapture is going to occur with the supposed divine intervention of an alien off world civilization. So. So why would they do that? Yeah. Why Christians? I think it's his hubris coming in. This is his own ego coming in where he was incredibly Christian. Because he was Christian.
46:00 And he said, you know, the Christians are the ones that would oppose the new world order because in in Revelation, they talk about a new world order, how having all of the governments, all the world like come as one is like a sign of, like the beast of, of. The devil, yes. Yeah, so that's how you know, and you should definitely oppose it because, you know, it's not of God, it's evil ultimately. OK, so see. Now I'm starting, you're starting to lose me. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So, you know, once you get the, if you are trying to make Christians believe the rapture happened and you kill and neutralize all of them, OK, via tractor beam like you, you know, and you kill all of them, then you have less people to, to oppose you when you're trying to start the New World Order.
46:50 So you'd get them out within hours. This would happen very, very quickly. OK, so are they literally getting sucked up? They might be getting sucked up and neutralized. Like maybe they are the ones who are being like brought, raised into the sky, like, Oh my God, yeah, it's finally heaven. And they're fucking as they're getting sucked up, you know, all of their neurons or whatever are being like vaporized. Gotcha. You know, do. You watch ghosts. I've seen a couple episodes. So they the idea is they get sucked off. That's what. Oh yeah, that's what the ghosts call it. Oh my God, he's getting sucked off. It's like when they go, when they go up and like they go on to the next. To the next realm. Or whatever. Yeah, yeah. When they are no longer earthbound spirits. That is really funny.
47:31 I totally forgot about that. OK so part is there any Part 3? There's a Part 3, there's, I know, of course it never, it never ends. So Part 3 is actually a mixture of electronic and supernatural forces. So this is where we bring and like radio waves and shit like that. So the waves used at that time will allow supernatural forces to travel through optical fibers, coaxial cables like televisions, electrical and phone lines in order to penetrate to everyone at once through major appliances. OK, OK. So why, why would this happen? So this is like bring the aliens maybe into your, you know, home. Why would they do it?
48:11 And it was it's to push people to the edge of hysteria and make them more pliable, essentially. So let's say we're sitting here and something neutralizes in front of you. You're like, what the what is going on? All this stuff is already happening. You're having like these earthquakes, like these things are like this is. You're already frazzled. You're incredibly frazzled. The world as you know it is not the same like you. You know, all this stuff is happening. There's potential nuclear war. Then you have this like alien coming into your home, yes. And is a direct threat, yes. You don't know how they got there, but they got there, yes. So, you know, makes you more pliable if the UN is coming in or the, you know, new World orders coming in and they're saying we're going to take care of this. Yeah.
48:59 Yeah. Like it makes you more. It makes you more and more willing to accept whatever help they have, right? Sure, sure. So after the four steps, there would actually be some kind of environmental disaster. So we have all of these steps we had like an earthquake or whatever There's. But there's going to be a one on a massive scale, which would cause people who do have money or you know, people who are somewhat secure to have no means of cash. They don't have any money. They don't have a home like. So it might be a big flood. It might be. An EMP. An EMP where like your money means nothing, which we were just talking about before recording the episode, you know, and so that that's the goal. The goal is to make people so insecure, you know, like housing insecure, you know, have like any kind of just insecure.
49:45 You don't have anything because they the goal really is to phase out some like cash and independence because you know, because then they. Would be in control of it and they can make it whatever they want, and you want what they have. Exactly, exactly. And you would have to be fully dependent on that new world. Yes. You don't have a choice, right? You're not living off the grid. You're not. Well, unless you wanted to do that. Right. But even even then, it's like, you know, with technology, they probably know you're living off the grid, right? Yeah. With that wall E3 thing or whatever, yeah, they know. They can see everything, Yeah. And it's so easy. And they could. Not, by the way, if you didn't hear the previous episode, we're not making that up.
50:26 That's not conspiracy. That's real. You can freaking download it, girl. Yes, yeah. It is. It's like open. This is the open source version, right? It's not actually. Yeah, it's anyways. So after the release of this information that he was, you know, putting out there, there were several personal attacks on Serge Monast. OK, shortly after releasing his series on Project Bluebeam, he had a knock at the door and it was Canada's equivalent of Child Protective Services. And they actually took his children away. So yeah, he would never see them again. Now, I've tried finding any kind of evidence as to like, well, why was it? Why were they taken away? I cannot.
51:07 Their justification for. Yeah, there was like no justification. And of course I believe the children are still alive. I don't know, but I can't find any reason. I, I couldn't find that, you know, he was an abusive POS like which I was like kind of looking for honestly, I was really trying to see that he was a piece of shit and like, you know, screw this, like, you know, idea of Project Bluebeam. But I couldn't find anything. I The only snippets that I could seem to find was that they were taken away because that they were they were home schooled in Canada, which doesn't make any sense to me. And honestly, it seems a little fishy, yeah. That seems super fishy. But I really can't find any other information of like foul play or any evidence of foul play from him like to warrant them being taken away.
51:50 So I don't know. But after all this information. They wanted him silenced, I'm just saying. Right, right. That's like, that's something that people are saying, like they, he had all this information. They were trying to assassinate his character, which oftentimes is what happens when Ryan Graves came out as one of the the tic Tac like guys, his his whole character was this like just totally ruined. Oh, well, he had issues of depression and like all these things that came out against him. So this is a tactic that we do actually know happens against, like whistleblowers. Yes. So it's it's not like it's not like this is so hard to believe, not at all far fetched. It's reality that has happened to people as recently as you know, well now to so 2 years actually. After releasing the information on Project Bluebeam, 51 year old Serge Monast was found dead in his home. And this was after only having recently had a physical which showed that he was healthy.
52:53 So there were no issues that were being shown. OK, Allegedly there are additional journalists who have looked into Project Bluebeam and had the same fate. Heart attacks. This is not the first time that we have heard that the government can get rid of people via heart attack, whether it's like a a shot that gives them an automatic heart attack. But there are ways to make it happen. And make it look like a heart attack. Just a regular old heart. Attack. Well, who knew? Just as random, it happens. So we were talking about who is this new World order, Okay. And actually Manas calls them the Shadow Masters, OK, in his papers, like he calls them the shadow masters. And actually Steven Greer explains who these people are. Which did we play Audio 3 already? No, we can do that right now.
53:48 Yeah. OK, Give me a second. I'm gonna get it. I know I didn't even queue up queue up. Sorry about that. Yeah, set us up for it. What is it? Yeah. So ultimately, you know, it's who is this elite, who is the New World Order and, you know, these shadow masters that Serge Monast talks about. One thing I kept on thinking of is like, well, who the hell are these people? You know, we're, it's always going to be, oh, the puppet, the puppeteer is pulling the strings. But who are these people? OK, let's hear it. Who's looking into this and who is in charge but certainly isn't the president? They come and go every 4 to 8 years. Members of Congress come and go all the time. So there's sort of this permanent committee, a few 100 people, and they've irrigated this because it's so secret, the right to do this, but they cannot be trusted.
54:38 Who do they report to? Themselves. I mean, this is a, this is a global operation. And by the way, when I'm. Global operations, so from different. 100% no. It take the map of the world and erase all the geopolitical lines. It doesn't matter. So there's sort of this permanent candidate of humor and they've irrigated this that was just so secret, the right to do this, but they cannot be trusted themselves. I mean, this is a, this is a.
55:27 Wow. That's Project Bluebeam. That's what it is. It's one it's, it's people who are working in their own best interest, OK, Like, and you hear this all the time, like they, they people within the government say, you know, and like they say, oh, well, of course the president doesn't know everything. He's he's a temporary employee. Same thing with Congress. Like these people have to be selected in these positions of power. The people who have started from the bottom or have been in an organization for a while and then work their way up, it's almost like a corporate ladder that they're working up. OK, absolute power, right?
56:08 Like, you know, so these like, you know, shadow masters or New World Order, like these people who are in charge of everything, who are calling the shots across the globe because there are no borders. They all work together to make these things happen. They have 4, four goals to ensure population compliance and they're an allegiance to that new world order. OK. The first one is to destroy religion, which we learned about, right. The second one is to destroy any kind of national pride. So no longer are we united as Americans, we are now united as humanity because because we beat this, you know, galactic threat, right?
56:52 There are no more, more borders #3 is to destroy the family. So you don't have allegiance to your family members anymore. It is not about that. It's about, you know, us being one and the number 4. Faction before Blood. Right, right, exactly, exactly. Or like they, they even say like, you know, the fact that like, you know, everyone's having to work and there are less like, you know, nuclear family families like they used to have, you know, people are they can't afford it ultimately, you know, and why can't they afford it? Well, maybe maybe the New World Order has something to do with that. Maybe the idea is that, you know, you don't want to have a tight social community, you don't have want to have, you know, people who feel like family.
57:34 You want to have people feel like they're all alone. And so then they have to rely on this government agency or government order. So and then the final 1/4 is to destroy individual creative freedom. So you know, if you are, you can't. Be an individual. You can't be an individual, you can't create something, you know, or this reads more like 1984, right? Which makes sense. So I I guess, I guess really the the question is like, is Project Bluebeam really that strange? Right when you when you break it down like that, everything in its individual component it all it does have a level of sense. Right.
58:15 It might look like initially Dr. Bonner's fucking soap, Castile soap. But guess what? This bitch uses that fucking soap. I love that soap and I've been using it for years. Does it look a little crazy? Yeah, but it's good soap. Like maybe there's some maybe there's some kind of validity to it. Like, you know, it, you know, these things kind of come in some strange packaging. And one thing that like when I was thinking about, like, you know, the idea that the government has ulterior motives is not so off base. Of course not. That's not at all off base. And, you know, we're talking about something currently as big as creating a war.
58:56 OK, So really, can our governments be trusted? Let's talk about the Vietnam War really, really quick, and then I'll be wrapping it up. But OK, so there's a little thing called the Gulf of Tonka, which is an incident that really started the whole Vietnam War. Do you know about it? I don't think so. OK, I'll, I'm happy to tell you about it. So essentially it's actually an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging in more directly in the Vietnam War. Technically the Vietnam War really like was from 1955 to like 19, like close to 70 or whatever. But on August 2nd, 1964, when the United States forces were carrying out a covert amphibious operations close to North Vietnam, the North Vietnamese like territorial waters, it triggered a response from North, North Vietnamese forces.
59:50 So the second incident within the Gulf of Tonka was occurred on the 4th of August between North Vietnamese and United States ships in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. So there's actually a call between President Johnson and former US Secretary of Defense. Robert McNamara That happened on August 3rd, so if you could play Audio 4 for me, that'd be great. He got studied further and say to Mansfield, now the president wants us, you to get the proper people and we come in and you say they fired at us. We responded immediately and, and we took out one of their boats and put the other two running and we kept them. We're putting their boats right there and we're not running on a guard to destroy.
1:00:37 That's right. We're going to go. And I think I should also or we should also at that time, Mr. President, explain this op Plan 34 A, these covert operations, There's no question for what that had bearing on it. Friday night, as you probably know, we had four TP boats from Vietnam manned by Vietnamese or other nationals, attacked two islands and we expended oh, 1000 rounds of ammunition, one kind or another against them. Like we probably shut off a radar station, a few other miscellaneous buildings, and the following 24 hours after that with this destroyer that same here. So remember I told you that that call was on August 3rd. So originally, you know, the US military claims that both that North Vietnam or blames North Vietnam for the confrontation, But in fact, the imaginary incident on August 4th, OK, So remember what I said before, that call was on August 3rd, OK. The, the incident that they talk about in that call, that was President Lyndon B Johnson and the Secretary of Defense, you know, Robert McNamara that we're talking on the phone. That call was on August 3rd.
1:01:53 The claims that they're making are claims that they said happened on August 4th. How do they know what's going to be happening in the future? One OK, 3rd staging a war there. Oh my God, in this call, that's what this is. And once again, we're going to have that linked, the source linked that's legit legitimate. So later an investigation actually revealed that the second attack never happened. That attack that they were saying happened never fucking happened, and the National Security Agency and agency of the US Defense Department had deliberately skewed intelligence to create the impression that an attack had been carried out. OK, So because of this, President Johnson obtained from Congress the Gulf of Tonkin resolution on August 7th, days after this, four days after this conversation, three days after, you know, the alleged incident on August 7th, 1964, giving blanket congressional approval for the use of military force to repel future attacks. So this was obtained through false claims. Congress said, yeah, yeah, President, you can do whatever you want.
1:03:06 A A draft was created by the middle of 1967, three years after nearly 70,000 Americans had been killed or wounded in war. This is an easy, known event, OK? This is something that all of us know, know about. We're all a little ashamed of, you know, of what happened and what we forced these men to do because it was wrong and it was false. There was no reason to go to fucking war, OK? They completely lied to the American, to Congress, and to the American people. So it's not so dissimilar to an invasion that all of us know about. The invasion of Iraq, OK, because of 9/11, which was claimed, the attack of 911 was claimed by al Qaeda, who were located in Afghanistan, OK, That doesn't make any sense, right?
1:03:59 Because I, I guess actually, apparently Iraq had supposed weapons of mass destruction, right? It had nothing to do with trying to control oil, right? There were no weapons of mass destruction. OK, I'm, and I'm not here to fear monger. I'm here to ask questions and to show that the systems around us have motives all on their own. And I know that this. And that all of this is plausible. It is. It is plausible. It's actually plausible. It seems initially it's a little fucking out there, right? But the issue is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, OK?
1:04:47 Today, our technology has become so advanced that it becomes more and more difficult to distinguish what is real and what is fake. And what we all know of is what we know of currently is just the tip of the technological iceberg. So my advice to all of you, pay attention, be discerning. Don't trust everything you see and you know, don't trust everything that everyone tells you. Don't trust what I'm telling you currently, because clearly there are people who are trying to skew your your thought process. Be smart. And we talked about it Last Podcast is create community and love the people that are around you.
1:05:34 That is incredibly important. Because those are the people you trust. Those are the people you trust and those are the people who love you, and that's really what it's all about. But pay attention, because these motherfuckers can't be trusted, OK? And? Sergeman asked. Might be a little crazy, but he's not so far fetched, you know? Did you think at the beginning of this episode that you would believe any of Project Blue Book? None of it. Or Bluebeam. Not a bit of it, really, no, because I thought he was a complete wackadoo, right? But when you put it in context, right, and you kind of compare it to things that have happened or things that could happened or, you know, then in, in its entirety, there's it kind of makes you know, you go, wait, things are connecting.
1:06:21 Yeah, and this is something he was talking about in the 90s. Yeah. Oh God. Great. So when you see the drones out there in question, question everything, question, question everything that's out there and like whatever we're. Certainly not giving you any answers to any. Yeah. We're only making it worse, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I know. Seriously, try to sleep. Take an Excedrin, you know, have some more milk. Cool. And I'm sorry. Thanks for a fine episode, appreciate. It. Yeah. Thank you. OK. Well, we'll see what happens the next week. Yeah, I know. Seriously, we need to do something on like, I don't know, something silly and happy, but have a feeling that things are just going to get weirder. All right, Well, have a good one. We'll talk to you soon then.
1:07:07 Talk to you soon. Bye.
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