McMillions. The McDonalds Monopoly Scam

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Hello.
Bizarre story friends.

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I'm Kevin, I'll be your host for
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And as always, we ask you to
keep an open mind, keep a

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skeptical ear but keep listening
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As we take you on our newest
Journey, make millions the

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McDonald's Monopoly scam.
Hello.

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My bizarre story friends and my
co-host is with the most

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Silesia.
How you doing?

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Girlfriend?
No, no.

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I am good.
I feel like I cannot pass.

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Go and collect $200.
Look like you're in jail.

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You look great.
Thank you.

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Make a burglar.
Yeah.

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Oh shoot.
I should have like glasses.

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Yeah.
Just put some like these are

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gonna steal your burger.
Okay.

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Good job.
Will have you.

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Do you go to McDonald's?
Oh my God.

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Is it a guilty?
Pleasure.

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It's so a guilty pleasure.
Like honestly, I love a

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McNugget.
I love a chicken nugget.

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I love like the french fries,
french fries?

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Are you kidding me?
Like, I could totally eat that

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right now.
Do you like the sandwiches, like

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that?
Yeah, Big Macs.

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The Quarter Pounders with?
Yeah, give it.

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Give it.
Give it all.

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I'm out, literally strip.
Yeah.

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So I love that shit.
Do you like, what is your

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favorite like?
What's your go-to?

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It's the Double Quarter Pounder
with cheese, okay?

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Onions and the fries.
That's pretty fucking God.

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Damn it, it's good.
It's really, really good at like

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all that stuff.
I like sometimes I'll do a Big

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Mac you're swallowing.
I know I'm like, oh my God, I'm

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so fucking hungry.
Like I would do it.

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We are hungry.
So I would, I would do that or I

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would do like the Nuggets or
like to cheese.

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Just give me two cheeseburgers
cheeseburger, eat cheeseburgers.

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I mean like those small
delicious little bites

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McDonald's.
You want to start sounds like a

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minute?
McDonald's sponsor, right?

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I know.
I do love it.

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When people like McDonald's is
trash.

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I'm like, no, I fucking love
that trash.

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You love it.
Well, you know, have you have

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the Monopoly game?
You're wearing Monopoly game?

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Yeah, you could like you to have
like the you'd buy like specific

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items or whatever, and like the
drinks or the fries would have

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liked.
But yeah.

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They have like these little like
plastic tabs that you'd get off

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and you could like when like a
free small fry or like if you

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got like all like of a specific
area in like Monopoly.

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Yes.
Then you could win like about

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trip to the Bahamas or
something.

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Crazy yes they have this.
So yes exactly.

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So the audience and prizes you
were speaking of the Food

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prizes.
Yeah, it's surprises.

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Like a jaguar.
And then they had the, you know,

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collect all the railroads were
all the boardwalks or the blues,

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the greens, and the yellows.
Yeah, on a monopoly but I'm not

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bleep.
Yeah, exactly.

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Well in the 1990s.
So McDonald's Monopoly.

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This Monopoly game was
everywhere and as I said it was

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boats and it was cars and it was
the instant million dollar prize

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has, yeah, half-a-million-dollar
prizes and twenty thousand

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dollar prizes.
And everyone was playing to

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collect these pieces.
I mean, it was, it was an

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absolutely brilliant marketing.
It was great tragedy from strad.

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Did g for McDonald's, but from
1987 to 2001 when they ran this

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game.
Yeah, there were no legitimate

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big prize, winners.
Not one, everyone, everyone,

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everyone of them were fixed.
It was fixed.

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That's bullshit.
You know how many fucking times

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I went and like I put it on that
stupid ass, like brochure.

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Never I was never going to win.
Ever going to win.

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What the fuck ever did I enjoy
the food?

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Yes, but I wanted to win.
I enjoyed Les.

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So what?
Jacksonville Florida?

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Okay.
Small FBI office there.

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It had a reputation of being
like this, retirement office for

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the FBI is so slow and boring
and dumb.

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So in 2001, Christopher G, this
is name.

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He supervised 12 people and
among them was a guy named

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Richard Dent and Doug Matthews.
Now, Richard is this

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mathematician?
A very smart guy but has the

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personality of a wooden plank of
course, as do both

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mathematician.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah.
Someone calls in to the FBI.

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And they report the Monopoly
game is fixed.

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And they give them this details,
some details about, but the

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FBI's priority at this point in
time was all about all the

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health care scams in cases that
were happening, especially in

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Florida.
Oh yeah, you could say that. so,

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He takes the note.
And writes a little know, a

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sticky, note writer self like
okay Monopoly scam question

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mark, right?
Puts it on his monitor.

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And so his friend, Doug has
other his co-partner happens to

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see this little sticky note.
I was so, so sorry, so Richard

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goes back to work, right?
But Monopoly Sam, okay, I got

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health care about yeah, goes
about his business.

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Well this friend Doug next door.
Yeah, sees this little Post-It

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note on his monitor and sees my
Napoles Cam and he's like huh,

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what?
That about.

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Yeah and he goes do you mind if
I call your informant and he

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goes.
Yeah, fine whatever.

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Yeah.
I have other things to do.

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I got it.
Thanks.

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So Doug causes person and this
person gives Doug like three

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names.
And these all the threes name

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three names were million dollar
Prize winners for McDonald's,

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but it's McDonald's game.
And the informant tells him.

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These winners are all related in
some way.

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No conspiracy don't don't don't?
Yeah.

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So The informant calls them the
McDonald's tree.

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She says, these are all part of
the McDonald's, family tree.

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This sounds like very conspiracy
theorist conspiratorial where

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they have like pictures and
stuff and like, like string

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connecting.
Yeah.

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Everything honestly, give me
that all the time.

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Yeah, love it.
Yeah so fun so fun but Also,

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it's just McDonald's, right?
Well, that was the other thing

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they're like, hmm.
Like, do we care a prop?

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Do we care?
Like, it's McDonald's.

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Like, it's their own things.
Like their own deal.

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Yeah.
Like yeah whatever.

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But also if they're all related
but like is yes it's like fraud.

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Like yes it's right there.
It's frog.

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Are they paying taxes?
We'll get to that.

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That's why we know about it.
All right.

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So dispersed, that is informant.
Also mention someone called

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Uncle Jerry Uncle Jerry.
Okay, mmm.

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And that Uncle Jerry is in some
form or fashion controlling.

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This is like so mob mentality
kind of thing.

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Oh my God.
Girlfriend.

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So ridiculous.
Okay, sorry so Uncle, Jerry's

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like the head of the, right the
whole thing, right?

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So when So they get a list of
all the winners.

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Yeah.
From McDonald's to determine if

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this kind of a legit thing.
Yeah up and up for open up,

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right?
And they're using all these

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databases and trying to figure
out who's connected to who and

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blah, blah, blah, blee blah blah
and then they were able to

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determine that these three
women.

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It winners did in fact have
family Connections in the

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Jacksonville area.
Huh.

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Now the odds of winning for the
spec up, so that's happening of

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high-value prize.
Was one in 250 million.

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That was the kind of odds of the
like the million dollars or

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whatever.
Okay.

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The odds of three relatives
winning, the big prize was like

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one and three hundred
sextillion.

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Oh sure for sure.
I mean really, there's nobody

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knows no way.
So clearly they're like, okay,

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we've Something's Happened.
So, okay, it's something.

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Yeah, something's going on.
So the FBI engages with the u.s.

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district attorney.
In this case, it was guy named

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Mark, Deborah.
And they go look, we got this

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thing going on.
This is something you didn't.

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You're willing to prosecute if
it became something.

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Yeah.
And as Mark, I was like, yeah,

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yeah, we definitely would.
We went.

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So they're like, okay, here we
go.

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So they're trying to figure out
well, where is, how is this

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working?
Like, where's the opportunity to

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steal a game?
Like how is this, possibly even

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fixed?
These are like, little small

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digital EP stickers that are on
stuff and all over the state

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United States.
Like, like, how is this working?

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So, like, is it somebody inside
McDonald's a job?

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Exactly.
Inside job, like, was it

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somebody who made the Cups with
somebody who made the fries,

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what like what's happening
right?

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Was something the game pieces
like the a million direct?

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Yeah, it go.
So they reaching this point

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where they had nothing but
questions, they just couldn't

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they just like weren't figuring
anything out there running into

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dead end after dead end and
they're going.

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Hmm.
Maybe we need to contact

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McDonald's.
Yeah yeah ask him ask.

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Um even though even could be an
inside job.

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Yeah but we now we got we got to
go inside.

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Yep. so they take a chance that
they call the head of Global

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Security of McDonald's guys,
name is Rob home and they tell

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Rob, Hey bud, you need to come
to Jacksonville.

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And by the way, don't tell
anyone you're coming, don't let

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tell anyone what you're doing.
We're not going to tell you why

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you're coming.
You just need to come to

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Jacksonville.
Don't tell anyone.

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FBI is asking for you.
Yeah, just come down here.

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So he comes down with three
fucking people.

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Of course he does.
It's like, no, but I thought, I

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just only tell these three
people that like my Aunt Ash.

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So the FBI takes him in the
office.

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And so they're trying to assess
these people all the time

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because they're like, What's
head of security like me Kimmy?

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Yeah yeah.
So they're all you know, trying

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to assess but trying to give him
limited information but enough

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information try fig because
they're running into dead ends

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right?
Sir and so they start FBI starts

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putting names on the Whiteboard.
And they asked these McDonald's.

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People do you know who these
people are?

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And the guys go McDonald's.
Guys, go.

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We don't know who those people
are.

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And the FBI goes, these are all
winners of your game, huh?

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And then they start doing the
yellow, the red strings.

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They have pictures of like like
unsuspecting pictures of like

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people like eating a like
something or any.

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They're like, okay this string
connects to this one and like

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everyone's wearing fucking
tinfoil hats and like look,

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haven't seen like the day at the
light of day and like two

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fucking weeks.
Look look look at our fucking

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board, our cork board filled
with our suspect.

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That's right.
Yeah, So they do that and then

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and then they go.
Hmm, Brother.

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Sister Sister.
Oh, this is his mother.

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Why daughter looks like cousin?
Everyone's a millionaire?

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This person is married to this
person's daughter.

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They have different last names.
They're so fucking real like and

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McDonald's.
People are like, what the fuck?

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Yeah.
What the actual fuck?

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Yeah.
And so they tell the McDonald's

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so they all agree.
We're going to keep this tight.

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We're not going to sit.
And of course McDonald's doesn't

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want to let.
They don't want to let the world

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know that dissolve fix.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
That's the last thing I want to

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do.
So yes, I will keep this quiet.

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So it turns out the mcdot so
they did this games in releases

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like there was different mcdot.
They would do these Monopoly

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games in chunks so they would do
a game it close out.

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They do another McDonald's game,
close.

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It did not acknowledge close
out.

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So, they were right on the cusp
of doing another run the game.

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And but the FBI obviously wanted
to catch them in the act.

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So they're figuring, okay?
This is a perfect opportunity,

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you're just starting a new game,
right?

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And so, let us end to this end.
Let's work this work at.

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Yeah.
And so, honestly McDonald's

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didn't want to do it.
They're like, no.

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I think we're just going to cut
our losses and just stopped.

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And yeah, I don't think so.
But they finally, Talk him into

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doing it.
Okay.

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And Big and the reason
McDonald's finally decide to do

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it because they're like maybe
it's somebody in our own office.

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Sure.
It sounds like an inside job.

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If it's if it's if it's honestly
like every single person.

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Yeah like like is related in
some capacity like something?

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Yeah, we like things up.
And if it's something in our own

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office, we don't want to just
stop it because we could have

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some Criminal Just continuing
working for us and we're not

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just like, thinking it's
conspiracy.

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It's like probably actually,
it's good like literally happen

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again.
Like it's the FBI knocking on

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your fucking door.
Yeah, exactly. so, Yeah,

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McDonald's.
Like taking time we got we've

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got to figure out what this,
what's happening?

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Totally.
And so they call the FBI and

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they go.
Yeah, we're going to work will

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run the game.
We're gonna do it.

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And so this is the last chance.
FBI has to figure this out like

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because the McDonald's is like,
no not going to do it anymore.

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No more.
We're done with us.

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This is it.
So if you guys got like we got

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to figure this out.
So now the FBI needs McDonald's

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to tell them.
How does the game work?

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So they can figure out.
Yeah, how this fraud is

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happening.
Totally.

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And so while Donald's is really
good at making yum, yum food.

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Yes, there are terrible at
marketing because they, so they

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had to Outsource all the
marketing.

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They weren't even responsible
for this game.

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They Outsource this, to somebody
else.

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This makes sense because they
make great delicious fat Fast

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food.
Yes, they don't.

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They're not in loving company.
Yeah, they're not a marketing

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company there.
That they're actually like a

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real estate company.
Yeah, okay, yeah.

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So, like they, they lease out
like, pads and stuff.

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And so, it's like a franchise,
like, people own like the actual

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individuals businesses.
Yeah, that's right.

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So they hired a company called
Simon marketing, okay?

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Now that's in fact, the same
company that came up with a

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goddamn I need a sound effect
for this and yes, I can make, I

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can make a okay, make it, I
don't know what you're going to

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say.
No, I don't either no.

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Wait, what are you gonna say?
What's a good one?

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Happy Meal marketing.
Imagine how much business the

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Happy Meal generates I am Lee's
go to McDonald's specifically

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for for having me.
Yeah, yeah, and the toy and

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stuff so genius totally genius.
So, Simon marketing goes It's

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Happy Meals are good for
children mean.

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I think of something for adults.
Yeah, I know Monopoly.

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Everyone likes mad.
Everyone likes Monopoly.

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Okay, I have a question.
Uh-huh, out of curiosity.

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Mmm, are you Monopoly player?
McDonald's Monopoly or like real

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life Monopoly.
Real life Monopoly.

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Yeah like Monopoly Deal I do
when was last time you play like

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the one the new version that
actually use credit cards

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instead of cash.
Oh my God, I have not actually

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had the digital thing and you
have a credit card You would

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like, you know, pay you $50,
just my credit card, here's my

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credit card, roulette deduct 50.
Do you have that?

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No, no, I wish I did.
I've never played that.

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No.
No.

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But the last time I played
Monopoly was with my best

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friend.
Okay.

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Of course we make an alliance
because we're best friends.

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No Amanda.
So she and I are an alliance and

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then we have two other people
who are against us, you you gang

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up.
Well, they started Ganging up on

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us and then.
So of course, we're like, well,

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fuck you or going to fucking
look at.

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I have was like buying shit.
Like I'm like, I'm like, okay, I

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have three dollars left to like,
okay, fine, I bought all of

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these things but then I couldn't
afford like hotels or houses, or

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anything on it anyway.
I buy everything up and waste

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all my money.
But and then we, of course, like

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we came together and we're
trying to get, but we had an odd

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man out, and the odd man out
like, we were trying to win over

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where I will.
The oh, oh, you can't pay that.

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You can't pair our hotel fever.
Yeah.

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What are you gonna give me?
How about this afternoon?

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Anthony, how about this?
You could give us a the money

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that you make on this next.
Like we're George.

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Yeah, totally.
So, it's like, it's like we

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gamify freaking kneecap but with
her, she does like accounting

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and stuff.
So she kept on like mortgaging

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an done.
Mortgaging, our properties,

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cause we're like bad, very close
to die, like we're dead, we're

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done.
We Like, we lost the fucking

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game.
I forget about mortgaging, by

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the way.
Oh, no.

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We forget about did not
mortgaging.

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On mortgaging, like Amanda.
She was a dog with a bone and I

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was like, Amanda.
We have lost, we have lost.

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And she's like, I don't just
like, no, we haven't.

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There's such as that I'm like,
Soho.

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Oh my God, like like, what's
gonna happen with our friendship

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after play with her?
He's hilarious.

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That was last time I played.
I would not touch the game.

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And I was like, it's a decade
can be tedious and long and

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boring as a kid I loved at.
Yeah.

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But I know it can be that way.
So that's what you got to make

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us become ruthless.
You go like every time you plan

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on here you put that in the
middle and then when you land on

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free parking.
Yeah.

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Some get the money.
Yeah.

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And then you just make up rules.
Absolutely.

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Yeah.
You guys fun because it can get

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really tedious freaking tedious.
Yeah.

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But the medicines game is like
addictive because you're like, I

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am one piece away from I just
need Boardwalk.

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You only need boardwalk and then
you'd get a fucking Cruiser, I

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just need st.
Charles Place.

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I just need one Railroad and
you're like, oh, and I want a

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Big Mac anyway.
So I'm hungry.

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Who cares about the 20 pounds?
I just gained a new fucking

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cares like I need fucking this
gonna go get a salad knows good

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Big Mac I need a boardwalk.
Yeah I'll get a McDonald's salad

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exactly with french fries on the
side.

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So we devised this time
increases.

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This great white Willie.
Kris is McDonald's business,

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like 40%?
Like it is, that's huge.

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Same, huge huge.
Wow.

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So, if those of you who are
super annoying and you don't eat

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fast food, the game works by
collecting pieces.

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And as Alicia said earlier, the
pieces were available on French

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fry cartons on drink cartons.
You could also get them in

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things like a magazine, like
People magazine.

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They would have them in there
where you can get the game board

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in the People magazine.
They would have to free pieces

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in there.
Did you do that?

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No.
Oh, God.

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Now was not that.
No, no.

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And or you could get a game or
they would, you would go into

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the McDonald's.
They would give you a board, you

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ask for the board and then
because they could.

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So they, if you ask for game
piece, they had to give you one

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because if they didn't, it would
be considered gambling.

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Because if you had to buy
something to get something

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that's considered gambling, we
had to be able to way to give it

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to you for free.
So you could go into McDonald's.

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Say give me a game piece and
they were and they would have to

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give you a game piece.
I know that's a lots of ways of

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getting yeah.
So again the question becomes

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how the hell?
Yeah.

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Were they getting these kids
stealing these game pieces?

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Right?
Because it seems like It seems

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to me like they had the game
pieces before they were out.

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Right.
Yeah.

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Like how unless they knows do
you unless you knew where it was

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going to be but then it might
but there's so many sales.

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So many manufacturers like yes.
Manufacturing the carton.

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So how did you know where that
game piece?

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Went on that carton in that box
into that struck into that

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store.
I mean that seems like

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impossible.
Yeah.

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You know, I'm saying it does.
Yeah, it does see, it seems like

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it's like way too.
Tedious, tedious.

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So so everyone's so.
So super confused.

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Yeah.
Okay, so the answer to that is

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coming soon.
Okay, guys are coming soon so

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McDonald's runs the game.
Short time later, boom.

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Have a winner.
McDonald's calls.

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The FBI says hey A guy by the
name of Michael who were just

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claimed the first million-dollar
prize interesting.

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The FBI goes to work.
They call it.

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No, that's the wrong one.
Final Answer, wait operation

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vital and so operation, Final
Answer starts.

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Okay.
They wiretap, Michael Hoover's

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phones, and every winners
phone's going for because they

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know there's the last 20 years.
There has been no diligent

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winner, right?
Of the big prizes.

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So they so they retro actively
tapped every yes, there are no

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winners or less the.
Now they're tapping people's

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phone.
Yep, makes sense.

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So we decide we want to create
this commercial like Publishers

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Clearing House did for years.
Yeah, right.

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And they're like, this is the
perfect way to opportunity,

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opportunity to interview these
fucking criminals.

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Yeah.
Right.

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You're literally asking them
questions and you're recording

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them and, you know, they're
criminals because, you know,

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every single one of these have
been non legit, right?

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So they create this fictitious
company called Shamrock

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Productions and like The whole
van like the whole bit, of

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course, the whole bit, and they
give the all the FBI.

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So, everyone in it is FBI,
right?

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The cameraman FBI the producer
FBI like everyone's like got

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their role and so the idea
behind like Publishers Clearing

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House.
If you haven't seen one of those

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like commercials, which I'm sure
a lot of people haven't.

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All right.
True.

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Anyway.
So so it was like, you know,

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these people would like play
this like mail and thing was

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called Publishers Clearing.
Us and like the chances were

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like, you would win a huge check
and so, like Ed McMahon or

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someone would like come in and
like a van with, like, a camera

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crew and like balloons and, you
know, a huge Chuck and they'd be

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like, you one and they're like,
oh my God, like this helps me,

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like pay off my house and like,
it's always like a sob story or

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something.
Exactly.

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And it would, but it was like
this huge like Primal?

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Where's production guy thing?
Okay.

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They're trying to do anything
with that with this dude.

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But this with With with this in
their thinking we're going to do

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this with all the winners
because that way we can

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interview all these criminals.
Yes right.

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Yeah.
And so they go interview Michael

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and he tells the the story of
the day that he wins and so his

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story is, he's on the beach and
he loses his People magazine in

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a wave and he really wants his
People magazine.

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So he goes to a convenience
store to get a new People

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magazine.
And in that People magazine of

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course, was to game pieces and
the board.

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And when he pulled off that
second tab, it was a

460
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:26,500
million-dollar winner.
What a miracle?

461
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:28,800
What?
Mm, thank you wave.

462
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,100
Yes.
And so the FBI says wow.

463
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:35,900
What?
Sorry Shamrock production says

464
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:40,700
wow amazing.
Take us to the store.

465
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:44,300
Yeah let's reenact this whole
thing to make a really cool.

466
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:47,300
Commercial.
And so he takes them to the

467
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:51,600
store and they re-enacted and he
picking up the magazine and he's

468
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,600
like holding this is where I got
it from the store and then like,

469
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200
take us back to the beach.
And so we take them to the beach

470
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,100
and he goes.
That's where I'm sitting and I

471
00:28:00,108 --> 00:28:09,400
got my umbrella and I'm pulling
off my tabs like the wind does

472
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,600
the whole bit?
Yeah the whole time he FBI

473
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,400
knowing it's a complete, ask
you.

474
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:19,800
Him a chance.
So it's just like going through

475
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:27,900
the fantasy.
So his phone being tapped.

476
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:32,000
They all leave, he picks up the
phone.

477
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:41,400
Banks of phone call.
To someone called AJ gloom and

478
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:48,200
he goes, hey, Andy, Andy, okay.
They were here.

479
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,100
They believed everything.
They believed the People

480
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,200
magazine, they believed all of
it.

481
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:01,300
Can you believe these fucking
idiots?

482
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:08,700
So they continue to tap winners.
Phones.

483
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,500
Yeah.
And they're hearing things like,

484
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:21,300
You don't want to make Uncle
Jerry upset and things that were

485
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,800
mentioning.
Cool, Jerry and kind of obscure

486
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,800
things.
And so they knew so then they

487
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,900
knew Uncle Jerry is legit?
Yeah.

488
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:32,700
This name, they got pretty
informant is legit, they knew

489
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:37,200
this person so they take the
list of winners and they trying

490
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,600
to match up all the phone
numbers going in and out of the

491
00:29:39,608 --> 00:29:45,500
winners homes and lo and behold.
They all have calls going to one

492
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,100
person just before the win and
just after the win and this

493
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:53,600
person's name was Jerry
Jacobson.

494
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:02,200
Like oh, who is Jerry, Jacobson.
Jerry Jacobson is head of Simon

495
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:07,400
marketing.
The company that was doing the

496
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,500
marketing, okay?
Like they're like, is this

497
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:13,000
Uncle?
Jerry like how the hell is he

498
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,600
stealing these pieces?
Because he's a head of marketing

499
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:21,100
coming soon.
So who's your Jacobs?

500
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:24,500
He was a police officer in
Hollywood California and 77 he

501
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:28,600
left his career because he had
multiple sclerosis and so then

502
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,100
he moves to Atlanta Georgia to
be near the doctor that was

503
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:34,500
helping him get better.
Sure if he's described as a

504
00:30:34,508 --> 00:30:39,400
person having Being short fuse.
That sounds about right,

505
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,700
physically abusing his wife and
his children just off on another

506
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,200
one of these d-bags, yeah, total
d-bag.

507
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:49,100
Threatens and threatening his
wife's life.

508
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:52,000
I mean, just dick.
Yeah.

509
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,300
Police officer dick.
So at some point in the 80s,

510
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:58,700
Simon marketing office in this
job managing security over

511
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:02,100
Monopoly.
So alright, so going too far

512
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:04,400
we're going to call him either
security, jarier Jerry, number

513
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,100
one, juror number one will come
on Carrie number one, okay,

514
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:14,100
cool, okay, Sherry, what?
So, Simon marketing had the game

515
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,900
pieces made just north of
Atlanta by a company called day.

516
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:20,500
Taylor brothers and Diller,
Brothers was a security printing

517
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:24,600
company so they would print
things like post u.s. postage

518
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,900
stamps lottery tickets.
Oh my Donald's game pieces like

519
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:35,200
things that like required very
secure process printing.

520
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:41,500
Yeah.
So, the way that would work it

521
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,700
was was that they would be
printing these McDonald's

522
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:47,200
tickets.
Mmm, they would stop printing,

523
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:55,200
they would print winners.
They would stop printing. and

524
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,500
then, They would be collected,
which will go into later, put in

525
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:05,100
a safe.
And then continued Printing and

526
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:09,700
this whole process is being
watched over by like 10 people

527
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:15,400
so that no one person could be
crooked and they had this whole

528
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:24,000
process of watching security
tape envelopes like briefcases

529
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000
safes like it was all it was a
very stable they printed like I

530
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,600
said scratch off tickets and
postage stamps so they had to be

531
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,600
very secure.
Yeah.

532
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:39,300
Yeah.
So Jerry being head of security.

533
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:42,300
He was responsible for taking
these game pieces from the

534
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:49,000
printer print from the printers.
And taking them to the

535
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:55,100
manufacturers that manufactured
things like cups People magazine

536
00:32:55,700 --> 00:33:01,800
and the fry can try containers
and inserting these winners into

537
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800
the run into the print run.
Wow.

538
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,200
Now, there's a woman named Hilda
Bennett who is a CPA now she

539
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,900
would.
She had to travel with him

540
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:14,000
during this whole thanks again,
they had to have two people on

541
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:21,100
it all times and she was again,
she was a CPA from some Law Firm

542
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:25,400
or some accounting firm and so
she had nothing to do with

543
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,900
anything, right, six.
So she was an independent party

544
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:31,500
again again to keep everything
legit legit on the up-and-up,

545
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,600
you didn't have to be working
together, totally, right?

546
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Yeah, that makes sense.
Checks and balances, right?

547
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,100
So the FBI is like okay, these
two bitches in cahoots, that's

548
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,700
what I would think they got to
be working together.

549
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,300
Yeah.
Because these two are

550
00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:49,700
responsible from it from
beginning to end but also like

551
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:52,100
maybe one person just to get
didn't give a fuck.

552
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,500
So like, if this is all, you're
stealing.

553
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,500
Well are the CPS just like, man,
whatever like?

554
00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:00,900
Yeah, like I don't fucking care.
I'm just for, I'm in.

555
00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:02,700
I'm in this for a paycheck.
Yeah.

556
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:04,200
Okay, right.
I don't know.

557
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,500
It's not.
Earth my job.

558
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,800
Yeah.
Just go do what you gotta do is

559
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,500
just I'm turning the other cheek
turn the other.

560
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:11,000
I don't fucking care.
That's right.

561
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,900
Yeah, yeah.
So they didn't know yeah.

562
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,199
They obviously had a surveil her
24/7.

563
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,300
Sure.
They don't know.

564
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:20,800
But they still can't figure out
how they were getting the game

565
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,199
pieces because there was such a
secure process from printing to

566
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,800
distribute it to manufacture of
the thing.

567
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:34,500
Yes, they did not like how, how
is it getting out Jerry?

568
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400
Re well, Jerry number one.
We think it's Jerry.

569
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,699
Number one, I kind of think it's
Jerry whenever one.

570
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:47,199
Okay, so so the FBI they
continue their investigation.

571
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Well they come across another
Jerry.

572
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Oh great Jerry Colombo.
The guy named Jerry Colombo.

573
00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:58,100
Fucking naked dude.
So they start linking the

574
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,000
winners to this.
Jerry this Janu Jerry Jerry

575
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,600
Colombo.
Number two, we're calling Jerry

576
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,400
and I'm sure a number two.
Yeah.

577
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,300
So Start linking the winners to
him and really obscure ways like

578
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:12,000
friend of a friend of a brother
of a sister of a cousin or

579
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,500
that's weird mother of a sister
of a married friends, uncle or

580
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:21,000
whatever.
There was like a connection and

581
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,400
so come to find out Jerry
Colombo's, part of the Colombo

582
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,300
crime, family.
Oh my God, you mentioned mob

583
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,900
earlier.
That's why I laugh, because

584
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:35,000
Jerry Colombo, part of the mob.
Bob some.

585
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,300
How can I give this whole head
of course.

586
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:41,000
So in 95, he marries this woman
named Robin will Robin wasn't

587
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:46,000
really great herself, a bookie
just you know, mob, you know,

588
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,800
you get that.
Yeah, yeah, criminal life,

589
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:55,300
criminal life so she Yeah.
So like security Taj Mahal

590
00:35:55,300 --> 00:36:02,600
Gambler deep in the Colombo mob,
Mafia Family, he had clubs and

591
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,000
bars.
And all those things that are

592
00:36:04,008 --> 00:36:07,300
really easy to launder, money,
Sherry, and all the CDs super

593
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:14,000
see stuff.
Well, Robin Starts handing out

594
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,700
the game pieces.
So Jerry Colombo.

595
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:24,200
And Robin Colombo?
Are somehow connected to Jerry

596
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,300
number one and they're like
handing out the game pieces to

597
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:30,400
people the people that they want
to win.

598
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:34,900
What?
What rights are there any she

599
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:36,400
giving him one to work?
Father?

600
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:40,700
Yeah, he gave one to his
daughter, his brother-in-law.

601
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,600
How the hell is it getting from
Jerry?

602
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,900
Number 1 to Jerry, number two,
Coming soon.

603
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would be like, what the hell

604
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,800
so aside from names.
How are these people related?

605
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,900
So, then she realizes wait a
minute.

606
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:02,900
All these winners are Italians
on the East Coast.

607
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,000
He's fuck.
They're going to figure it out.

608
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,200
So she goes, oh, I'm gonna go
give one to my black friend in

609
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,800
Atlanta.
He's like, I'm gonna go mail one

610
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,900
to st.
Jude's.

611
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:18,000
Oh, Anonymous donation.
Yeah, rights a title.

612
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,800
That's pretty smart starts.
Getting the Italians out of the

613
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:22,900
picture.
Yeah.

614
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,700
Stop having it be.
So like, come on.

615
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:29,500
How stupid is that when you're
like, hey look I know how to

616
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,600
win.
I'm gonna give you and you'll

617
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,800
give me a cut and like it's like
that's like the worst idea.

618
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,800
Like doors at the worst, don't
do that.

619
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,100
Just if you're going to cheat
she would like a smaller one.

620
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,700
Not the big grand prize.
I'm sorry like For, I don't know

621
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:51,200
the fucking Cruise Cruise.
Yeah, don't don't constantly

622
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,500
have all your family members.
Getting a million dollars my

623
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,400
custom questions, but keep so
now keep this in mind.

624
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,200
So, you would think that, but,
this was going on, dude, since

625
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,600
like 1987, right?
Until 2001?

626
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,500
Yes, that's crazy, dude.
No one knew the wiser.

627
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,300
Yeah, this was going on for
years and years and years and

628
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:14,100
years and years.
That's the bottom line

629
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,200
McDonald's Had.
I'm up of course they don't.

630
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,000
They're very still so much money
by 40% like you said, and then

631
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,900
on top of that and then give out
a million dollars every time

632
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:24,400
we're on this game lamp, who
cares?

633
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Yeah.
Like that's fucking.

634
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:29,100
That's chump change, bro.
But like also, you know, you

635
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,500
have all these people.
I remember like, thinking, how

636
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:34,900
come we never seen any winners?
Yeah, we see any winners.

637
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:37,000
Like, as a kid, I was like,
you'd think that it would be

638
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,400
like Publishers Clearing House
where they're like, oh my God,

639
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,000
like they didn't like a super
big deal on.

640
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,400
There was never a big deal.
You didn't have like any kind of

641
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,600
like news.
Paper or like, you know, news

642
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,800
story anything and there and
there was but they did it

643
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,400
locally there wasn't like a big
National that was all east coast

644
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,700
of.
Yeah, we would have, we'll never

645
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:56,300
know.
Yes, we're on the west coast.

646
00:38:56,300 --> 00:39:02,900
Yeah, so yeah, so it's getting
crazy and so they're like, okay

647
00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:05,600
we got to diversify right,
right.

648
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,500
Diversify give it to a black man
st.

649
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:11,300
Jude's, I can't, exactly,
exactly exactly.

650
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,200
All right.
So yeah, Abso that, okay?

651
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:22,700
So, now flashback 15 years,
okay, Security Jerry or Jerry

652
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:28,400
number one, he figures out.
He can commit this scam in this

653
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,900
fraud.
But he needs to get himself

654
00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:33,900
separated from the winter
somehow.

655
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:41,900
So that's how he found during
number two, did he intentionally

656
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,700
choose another?
Jerry he did not okay, it was

657
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,400
just so happy to be another
Jerry.

658
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:51,400
Okay, so, the plan was Jerry,
number one would get the winning

659
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,200
game pieces, he would sell them
to Jerry.

660
00:39:54,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Number two, based on the prize
size, The million-dollar prize,

661
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,700
for example, was fifty thousand
dollars.

662
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,800
So, Jerry number 2 would give
Jerry number 150 thousand

663
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,800
dollars for the million-dollar
game piece and then the prizes

664
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000
went down there.
So they had like half a million

665
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,300
twenty thousand a Jaguar like
you said, he's in surprises.

666
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:18,900
So the prices would go down from
there.

667
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:23,100
So, during number one was making
quick fast money.

668
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:27,300
Sure.
So again, how did he effing

669
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:29,800
still these prices?
I don't know coming soon.

670
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:34,800
Okay, so now the winners.
So now they're gonna like, okay,

671
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,400
let's bring all these winners
together in Vegas, and we're

672
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,900
gonna get them all together and
we're going to film.

673
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:42,000
I'm asking me like a thing.
We're going to do just like the

674
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,700
sting, yeah.
And it's gonna be like an

675
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,900
all-expense trip, paid strip.
And we're going to write out the

676
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,800
whole floor of the embassy Mike
ever.

677
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,600
Make it a thing.
Exactly.

678
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,700
Making this bug.
Exactly.

679
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:00,300
And then that way they would
have all this video.

680
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,300
They're trying to compile all
this video evidence.

681
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:07,000
I like V 2 bar related these.
Yeah the things that they said

682
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,200
they're going to somehow use
them and there's trying to build

683
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,500
out trying to do.
So they go in and film all the

684
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,500
winners like they did Michael
Hoover and they tell them,

685
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:17,800
they're going to get this Vegas
trip.

686
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:22,600
Like I said, the point was to
get for the da, the da one at

687
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,800
all as much evidence as it could
and video from the actual

688
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,500
criminals was perfect and want
to.

689
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,900
So one of the examples, the
interview, they interview one of

690
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:32,200
the winners and name's Gloria
Brownwood.

691
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,900
This was the black lady.
Yeah.

692
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:36,900
And George are on.
Oh yeah.

693
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:43,600
And so she was a million-dollar
instant winner and so she lives

694
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,300
in Florida, but she wins in
South Carolina.

695
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,400
So weird.
Very strange.

696
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,400
And so they say, what were you
doing in South Carolina?

697
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,800
Yeah, I know.
Nothing accusatory because this

698
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,400
is the interview, right?
You're the winner.

699
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,700
Oh, what were you doing in South
Carolina?

700
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:03,600
That right?
Yeah.

701
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,400
And she's like, oh, I was taking
a break from work and I was

702
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,000
looking for work and then they
go one.

703
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Why did you move up there?
Oh, I had a friend.

704
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:24,500
And I had another friend, and I
was doing a lot of visiting and

705
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:30,900
okay, girl, it's okay, girl.
Okay, the correct answer is,

706
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,500
I've always wanted to visit
South Carolina.

707
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,600
I've heard it so romantic.
And I just needed a break to

708
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,300
relax and think for myself, you
fucking idiot.

709
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,500
Don't come up with all this
other dumb bullshit.

710
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:54,300
She was petrified.
You know, something's up fucking

711
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,900
get your story straight.
She was striking scurred.

712
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:02,200
So, so.
And then they notice I, she's

713
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,500
very guarded and wasn't, yes.
Merely as forthcoming as on the

714
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:07,500
winners.
And so then they asked for this

715
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,100
is Gloria.
Do you remember what McDonald's?

716
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:09,900
You won?
The prize in.

717
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:11,700
She goes all.
Oh yeah, absolutely.

718
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,400
And so then they hand her a
picture and they go.

719
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Is this the McDonald's that you
wanted in?

720
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,100
She goes Yes, that's the
McDonald's.

721
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,600
I won the prize in they go
great.

722
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Can we have you sign it and say
something like thanks a million

723
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,500
McDonald's or you know,
something clever like that

724
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:28,000
stupid.
And so she does.

725
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,500
Yeah /.
Oh actually.

726
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:31,100
She's the one that came up with.
That's where they go.

727
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,500
Can use autograph it and do
something clever and she goes.

728
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:35,900
How about thanks a million.
They go like perfect.

729
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,200
Yes come up with some more
ideas.

730
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Come on Gloria.
All right Lori.

731
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,700
Yeah give us give us some more
ideas.

732
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:45,000
Yeah.
Definitely.

733
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,100
Are you sure this is the fucking
A sure.

734
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:51,400
It's like, for sure, I've never
been to South Carolina, but

735
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:53,600
absolutely.
I'm talking when I wanna ride.

736
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,500
Yeah.
Thanks a million.

737
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,300
What was funny is that the
McDonald's that they showed her

738
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,200
was the McDonald's right by her
house in Jacksonville, Florida

739
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,500
or so, of course.
We're so fucking idiot.

740
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:09,600
Did it's so intense and you're
wrong.

741
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,700
It feels like a set up.
She's like she gets its like

742
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:16,900
when like dumb criminals like
get like overly like Their birth

743
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,300
certificate at the crying
saying, hey, I like still like

744
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:24,200
overly like what is it called?
But I'm confident.

745
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,100
Yeah, overly confident.
They're like, oh yeah, don't

746
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,600
worry.
I don't have to do this.

747
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:34,200
Hmm, thanks a million.
Yeah, you just think you got it?

748
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,900
Looking at you like you fucking
idiot.

749
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,300
Don't give away any information.
Don't say yes or no to anything

750
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:44,300
like I don't fucking know.
So F, you guys getting all this

751
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:45,700
information.
They're catching all these

752
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:48,600
people and all these Lies.
They're completely recording

753
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,400
every minute of it.
They're linking the people to

754
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,600
the other people.
They're referring phone calls.

755
00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:00,100
I mean they are right on the
cusp of solving it getting put

756
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:03,800
taking them into court.
Give you the da, but they

757
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,400
couldn't figure out the most
important part, right?

758
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,500
How did those tickets?
F was Jerry doing it?

759
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:16,400
Yeah, coming soon, okay.
So around 2001 mobbed.

760
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:17,800
Jerry mob.
Jerry.

761
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:23,000
Jerry number two, yeah dies.
How does he die?

762
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,800
Robin is driving there in a car
accident.

763
00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:35,100
He dies.
So they're kind of now, they're

764
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:42,000
needing a replacement to kind of
help the volume of recruiters

765
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:43,300
the people that are giving the
tickets.

766
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,700
This is where aj glum comes into
the picture.

767
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:47,800
Gotcha.
We were talking about earlier,

768
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:56,300
so, His wife Robyn, she jams,
she's like, I'm done with this.

769
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,300
Yeah, enough's enough.
Enough's enough.

770
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,300
I don't want any part of this.
She takes everything.

771
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:04,400
She can tie the house and she
jams.

772
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,300
Well, the family is thinking,
oh, great.

773
00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:11,100
So she kills Jerry and is no,
you know, on the lam, that's

774
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,100
what they're thinking, of
course, they are, right?

775
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:15,300
Because they're all guiltily.
He had some odd family.

776
00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:18,200
They're all fucking guilty
parties, exact criminals.

777
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,000
They're thinking, everyone else,
is exact same way.

778
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,200
Totally, exactly.
Right.

779
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:27,100
Like, I'm Over at right.
So there were some real innocent

780
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:29,100
people dragged into this.
There was this guy named George

781
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,100
Chandler and one of the
recruiters I can't remember how

782
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:37,400
he got to be a recruiter but
Heat.

783
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,500
There's this real sweet.
Sweet guy.

784
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:45,500
And he the this recruit I can't
remember his name.

785
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Kind of raise this kid, this guy
up to be an adult and so he was

786
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,800
kind of his like cement other.
Oh yeah.

787
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,700
Right.
And so he this.

788
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:00,000
So George just really looked up
to him.

789
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Thought the world of him and
George is really starting to

790
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,800
make something of himself.
Sure. and he was becoming a

791
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,500
Rancher and just like I said,
really making something of

792
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:11,500
myself, part of the Church
community, the community really

793
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:19,300
good person and the guy that
raised him gave him a 50,000

794
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:25,200
dollar ticket and said my friend
is going through a divorce and

795
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:31,500
he doesn't want his wife.
To get the other half and so,

796
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:39,000
could you claim this?
And we'll give give him half and

797
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,000
you can keep the other half.
Completely fictitious.

798
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,400
He was just recruiting him to
cash in a ticket.

799
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:48,500
That's that's some dirty ass
shit.

800
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:52,900
Dirty dirty, you raced this poor
kid, it's greed.

801
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,400
God, it's total grade total
greed.

802
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,100
Yeah, that is really sad.
This is that's just one example.

803
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:07,400
There are like 50, 50, 60,
people, 50, or 60 people.

804
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Where is that bulletin board
with all of them?

805
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,800
Again, I'm going to I show you
something.

806
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,700
Girl.
Are you okay?

807
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:20,500
Yes, because it's Nauseating is
that it's mind-boggling.

808
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:23,900
Watch this.
Okay, I'm all done so we'll have

809
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:27,300
it also best show notes.
Oh my God.

810
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:29,200
Okay, so you're watching on
video.

811
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,900
This is the diagram of operation
final answer.

812
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,600
And at the top, we have our
wonderful Jerry Jacobson.

813
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,800
Jerry number one Simon marketing
and He's listed as the leader.

814
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:45,700
And then underneath him, we
start to have, guys, you guys

815
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:48,700
have seen the like when you're
at work and you have the little

816
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:52,500
chart of the hierarchy of people
reporting to people different

817
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:55,400
people.
So we see the people in yellow

818
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,300
as the recruiters and everyone
under the recruiters is the

819
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:03,900
winner and we can see like how
much the people that we look.

820
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Jerry Colombo and Robin.
We can see all these million

821
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,600
dollar winners right now
thousand dollar winners.

822
00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:15,000
And then if we come over and
look at Andrew Gloom, look at

823
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,600
that million million million
million million million million

824
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,600
million million million.
The these are all the people

825
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,900
that they specifically called
out and gave them the winners

826
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:31,300
and this all float up.
Its, or imagine the recruiter

827
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:35,200
gets a portion.
Hmm. the recruiters recruiter

828
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:41,400
especially if it has two layers
deep like, Dwight Baker, and

829
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,300
then, and his wife Linda, which
I could, I could do a whole

830
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:49,200
episode on those two.
Those two are creeps and then

831
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,900
they had Ron Huger underneath
there, right?

832
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:54,600
Who gave John Davis a
million-dollar winner while, so

833
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,400
I'm sure Noah, Dwight Baker, got
a cut of Ron's and then, of

834
00:49:59,408 --> 00:50:01,500
course, Jerome got paid from
Noah.

835
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,700
You don't say it's like, so it's
like a pyramid kind of, yeah,

836
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,800
kind of sower like multi-level
marketing, it.

837
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,500
Oh my God hilarious.
It's insane.

838
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:18,400
You're saying is it's a pyramid
scheme.

839
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:21,100
So yeah, I mean that's exactly
what it looks like.

840
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:23,600
Everybody gets a cut.
So one person doesn't really

841
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,800
actually get a million dollars.
They just get a portion of that

842
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,500
million and then they give it
onto to the other people.

843
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:32,600
Yes.
Who, you know, had given them

844
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200
these fucking tickets.
So, okay, a question.

845
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,800
Yes.
Are they paying taxes on this?

846
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:40,200
Okay, so what would happen?
When was?

847
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,900
Jerry number one, yes.
Would give well just say, Jerry

848
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:47,200
number two in this example
because you saw all their work,

849
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,500
right, right.
Yeah, to get Jerry.

850
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:50,800
Number two, the win.
The million dollar ticket

851
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,500
ticket.
Yeah, Jerry number one.

852
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:55,700
Gets 50,000 dollars, right?
So now jury number two, has a

853
00:50:55,708 --> 00:50:57,600
million-dollar winner.
Yes.

854
00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:03,600
So Jerry, number 2 gives the
million-dollar winner to Kevin.

855
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:07,000
Yeah.
Kevin goes and claims it.

856
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,900
Hmm, Jerry number two says, give
me 50. 500 bucks in thousand

857
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:13,800
dollars when half your winning?
Yeah.

858
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,000
They give him 50 thousand
dollars, but Kevin is stuck with

859
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,400
the task because Kevin clean the
fucking prize.

860
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,500
Yeah.
So you have so, okay, this is a

861
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:32,200
great, like, a crime of stupid,
like, you have to have a lot of

862
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,400
stupid.
Fucking people know shit who's

863
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,800
the, because the first thought
that I had and should have went

864
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,900
wait a minute.
Yeah, I have to pay taxes on

865
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:41,100
this because I'm claiming it.
Are you paying taxes during

866
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:42,000
number two?
Yeah.

867
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,900
Clearly not because you want
half on my way.

868
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,400
Yeah.
Okay.

869
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,700
Kevin, you're an idiot.
Yeah.

870
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:50,300
You're a total fucking idiot.
Like, you should you so them.

871
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:53,400
They're stuck with the, the tax
implications, and guess what?

872
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,400
So, they end up winning nothing.
Yeah, because the taxes are

873
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,900
greater than what they get.
Yeah.

874
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:01,700
Yeah, gift taxes are like higher
than like, yeah, normal Texas,

875
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:05,200
huh.
So, take their Cut - the taxes

876
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,900
there in the whole all of these
like winners, don't actually win

877
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:10,800
a or not.
He's winning.

878
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,200
So actually, when a goddamn, not
a thing, they never really want

879
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,600
it.
Begin with but like even like

880
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,200
going to claim it really?
It's the people who are

881
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,300
recruiting.
Yes, they're getting money.

882
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:23,300
Yeah.
And it's and it's tax-free

883
00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:27,300
because it's cash, hack them.
There's no like tax-free.

884
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,400
Yeah, there's no like
ramifications.

885
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,800
There's no record of them
actually.

886
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,700
Winning.
Brilliant, brilliant brilliant.

887
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:38,100
Good for them, so people be
smart.

888
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:40,000
Yeah.
Use your head your head like

889
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,700
nothing is easy.
Nothing's easy.

890
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:47,100
Stop it, if someone One stop it.
If someone's giving you money,

891
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,200
stop it.
Yeah totally.

892
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:57,700
So Finally the FBI figures out.
How Jerry number one, does it?

893
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,200
They figure that out so the case
bust wide open.

894
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:03,300
Okay, they're getting ready to
prosecute.

895
00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:07,100
Yes, the media is just getting
ready to report on.

896
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,700
This is starting like a
wildfire.

897
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:11,000
You can.
Imagine course, it would be

898
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,600
huge.
Imagine couple days later

899
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:21,200
September 11th. 2001 happens.
No.

900
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:27,300
Oh my gosh.
So clearly we have a terrorist

901
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:30,300
threat.
All of this, like, stuff that's

902
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,800
being built up for a huge
release on the back burner.

903
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,800
Because what we had to fucking
like, Cessna or to like

904
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,500
commercial flights, go into the
World Trade Centers in New York

905
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:44,000
City.
Do you remember the McDonald's

906
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,100
scan?
Fuck.

907
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:48,800
No.
I don't nobody remembers the

908
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:54,000
McDonald's Scandal.
No, because all we heard about

909
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,300
was our terrorist attack.
Yeah.

910
00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:59,600
Yeah, we saw it happening on
live are like, when you have

911
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,400
something like that, such a
huge.

912
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,300
That's takes precedence, it does
for sure, but the FBI was like

913
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:08,300
so.
So here's to two issues.

914
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:15,000
So, part of the problem was,
Now, all of the FBI agents.

915
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,600
Now they, suddenly become
terrorists, terrorism agents.

916
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:22,500
Their focus is on now terrorism.
Yeah.

917
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:25,900
So poor Doug and Rick are stuck
with this case, all by

918
00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:26,900
themselves now.
Yep.

919
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:34,800
So, it's completely collapsed.
Updates to this case are no

920
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,400
longer on the front page there
on the back page of course

921
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,500
they're nobody.
At this point gives a shit about

922
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:44,900
McDonald's.
So it sounds, it sounds very

923
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:49,400
crass, but I'm sure McDonald's
was like, thank God.

924
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,000
Can you have?
It would be slaughtered.

925
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,100
Oh yes, they would.
They would most certainly be

926
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:59,300
slaughtered like, okay, these
games that you've been playing

927
00:54:59,300 --> 00:55:00,000
for what.
Fuck.

928
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,000
I'm totally fixed.
Yeah, totally fixed, totally fix

929
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,000
like for 14 years.
Yes. 14 years of you like doing

930
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,400
this huge marketing Ploy and not
one.

931
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,400
Real persons actually.
I want not a one.

932
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,100
Well yeah, I would be counting
my blessings blessings.

933
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:18,400
Yeah.
Yeah.

934
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,400
I mean their sales, I mean, I
just can't even 40% increased.

935
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,100
That's incredible.
Would have probably boycott it.

936
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:27,500
I who knows?
Yes, do not.

937
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:31,600
People would have been really
upset, so the trial happens just

938
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:37,600
in 2002 shortly after the issue
and September 11th, I'm trial

939
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,900
last three weeks and they do a
age.

940
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:44,700
Igloo member him, Dwight Baker.
Who do I Baker was the guy Guy,

941
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:47,700
who did that poor?
Who raise the kid?

942
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,400
Yeah.
The, he was the asshole did

943
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,300
that, or maybe he was a good
one.

944
00:55:55,300 --> 00:55:56,100
Doesn't matter.
Anyway.

945
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:59,700
So there was a total of 53
people that they're trying to

946
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:01,800
convict.
Can this whole thing?

947
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,900
Jerry, number one pleads guilty
and that's in order to help him

948
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:09,500
get out.
Yeah, this shit because they're

949
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:11,400
like you significantly helped
us.

950
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,400
So now your sentence of my
ensuring number one has the most

951
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,800
To lose holy.
So of course yours and be like

952
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,000
whoa!
Whoa, whoa.

953
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,600
Well I'll of course, I'll help
you guys.

954
00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:23,700
I'm the one who's made the most
money.

955
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:25,700
Yes.
Give me a like I'm going to help

956
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:27,800
you find these criminals.
Yeah.

957
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:29,800
Oh my God, these people are
awful.

958
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:32,400
Like, give me a sweetheart deal.
Like what can I do?

959
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,800
Like he's a piece of shit people
yakked like.

960
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,500
Yeah, of course.
He's first in every single one

961
00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:42,600
of these people plead guilty,
except for seven people in

962
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,300
George Chandler, being one of
them in Georgia.

963
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:46,600
Chandler was the poor guy that
got taken.

964
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,400
Yeah, he had no idea or guy.
Three of them changed their

965
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,800
pleas from guilty to not get
from to guilty from not guilty

966
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,000
as soon as they heard the
opening statements, from the

967
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,200
district attorney, seriously,
totally.

968
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,700
They're like, oh yeah, nobody
was George one of them.

969
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,000
No.
Okay, so pleading not guilty

970
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,800
because we didn't know.
Here's the thing.

971
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:14,800
The judge said you can only find
him guilty if you think that he

972
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,200
knew.
Yeah.

973
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,600
But the game piece was stolen.
Hmm.

974
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:22,300
Or that it was some sort of a
can't remember, there was

975
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:26,600
another circumstance of which
George knew not didn't know.

976
00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:29,300
Of course, he didn't know.
He thought he was doing some guy

977
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:35,100
favor.
Again, note to the people if his

978
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:38,900
sounds scammed like even if
you'd like keep my because the

979
00:57:38,900 --> 00:57:42,400
reality is his wife deserve that
even if that was true his wife

980
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,500
deserve that other half that
much.

981
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:47,400
Yeah, grade.
So he sorry George because you

982
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,200
knew that wasn't a really good
thing to do.

983
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,100
Yeah.
But your Mentor is telling you

984
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:53,600
to do this.
So yeah, you know, I yeah, it's

985
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,100
like no matter what.
Like it wasn't a good thing,

986
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,200
wasn't, it wasn't?
Well, that you're probably

987
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,700
pretty naive, so they're gay
their This was built around the

988
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:04,700
recruiters that the recruiters
violated the game rules.

989
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:08,300
And if you broke the game rules,
you're a criminal.

990
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:11,300
And so people are saying like,
why are you Prosecuting asses up

991
00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:13,500
effing game?
Yeah, it's a game, right?

992
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:16,700
They didn't break a law.
You're saying they violated game

993
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:21,100
rules, like, stop and then, but
the FBI was like Nana Nana, no,

994
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,700
no, no.
Like if you tell your friend go

995
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:25,800
claim this prize that you didn't
win.

996
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:30,500
That's considered frog.
Yeah, and because just deceived

997
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:32,200
wrong.
Old MacDonald into giving you

998
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,400
money, right?
The FBI is like know that that's

999
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,800
fraud.
And this and the FBI even says,

1000
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,900
like if you found a game piece
on the street and you cashed it

1001
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:45,300
in, you're committing a federal
crime.

1002
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:46,700
That's bullshit.
Bullshit.

1003
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,800
I know it's totally bullshit.
Finders Keepers.

1004
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,100
Okay, Finders Keepers one until
you want to know.

1005
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:54,400
They're really pissed off about
taxes.

1006
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:57,800
Aha.
It's the fact these people were

1007
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,500
were committing fraud,
embezzling money and not paying

1008
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:07,200
the fucking IRS money but the is
the problem, the suckers Is were

1009
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,700
no suckers, were the suckers
weren't really making it really,

1010
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,500
really matter.
The real money was with these

1011
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:14,100
other people.
So that's why they're like, oh

1012
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,300
no, it's fraud, right?
Oh, you just found it on the

1013
00:59:16,300 --> 00:59:18,500
ground, it's fraud, it's like,
fuck off, Finders Keepers.

1014
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:20,900
Yeah, I went and grabbed a
fucking big mouth Mac, like

1015
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:23,400
whatever.
Like, you know, anyone would do

1016
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,600
that.
No one would say that.

1017
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,900
Was so, even the McDonald's
spoke person who was

1018
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:29,100
cross-examined, who the
prosecution?

1019
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:30,700
It was a prosecution witness.
Yeah.

1020
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:35,600
But on the stand, he's that
witness said there was nothing

1021
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,800
in the rules that prohibited a
transfer of a ticket.

1022
00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:42,100
And that was the argument.
That's true.

1023
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:46,200
It was just a transfer of a
ticket and so st.

1024
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,500
Jude's.
Broke the rules right then but

1025
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:54,500
they have Bagels.
No, that was a donation.

1026
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,300
They give the mental three
goodness of their heart.

1027
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:01,700
Yeah, they're trying to like
save babies.

1028
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,900
Right?
Right.

1029
01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:04,700
And save the children's.
Yeah.

1030
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:10,500
Yes.
Okay so completely obviously

1031
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:12,800
gray area You could argue it
either way, right?

1032
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,600
Hmm.
And so the defense is like,

1033
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:21,400
well, it's like buying a car.
That is stolen versus buying a

1034
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,300
car that you know, is stole it
right?

1035
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:26,300
That that's their argument,
right?

1036
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:29,900
Like I like you're giving me a
game piece like I don't know

1037
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:34,700
what stolen hmm like I don't
know, the circumstances kind of

1038
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:36,800
weak but it's yeah I was going
to say there's still like a

1039
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,900
purchase.
Yeah and this is, there's nose

1040
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:39,800
purchase.
Yeah.

1041
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,900
You're not buying McDonald's and
like right Fort from the

1042
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:46,400
person's like hey can you buy me
like a Big Mac because and here

1043
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,300
you go.
Here's a 1 million dollar like,

1044
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:50,300
you know, Is that I would have
got, you know what I mean?

1045
01:00:50,300 --> 01:00:53,200
Yeah, that's you clearly.
If you're abroad logic.

1046
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,200
Yeah.
And so also, the prosecution

1047
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,100
said, a lot of these metal
pieces were mailed.

1048
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,400
And we all know that mail fraud
is federal.

1049
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,200
Oh yeah, that's a huge problem.
Yeah, big big, big problem.

1050
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:12,800
And so the Devil's Advocate and
the other argument was Jerry's

1051
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,500
job was to take those pieces
wherever he wanted.

1052
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,400
That was his job was to get the
winning pieces and take them to

1053
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,100
the distributors in any order
form or fashion wherever he

1054
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:24,100
wanted.
Hmm?

1055
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,800
Just it was to be random, right?
He just chose the people that he

1056
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,200
wanted to win.
No, that's bullshit.

1057
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:36,700
That's the argument though.
If you're looking so I say

1058
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:39,800
Alicia, I want you to win this
prize versus putting random and

1059
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,800
letting Joe Blow when it was a
matter of some 11.

1060
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,800
Someone's gonna win?
I understand it.

1061
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,100
Uh-huh.
But it's like, also, like it's

1062
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:52,700
supposed to be anonymous.
You're not supposed to choose

1063
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:54,900
the winner.
It's not Jerry's Monopoly

1064
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:58,000
fucking, it's not very, it's not
Jerry.

1065
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:00,800
Chooses, the winner fucking
Monopoly game for McDonald's.

1066
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,700
Like that's not what this is
j-mac burglar.

1067
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,000
Exactly.
But, but I but, you know, on the

1068
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,300
flip side, it was like putting
all that power into one person's

1069
01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:12,700
hand.
Yeah, not a good idea.

1070
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:14,700
And a good idea.
So Jerry number one.

1071
01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:18,500
Now goes on the stand and so at
this point, no one other than

1072
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:25,000
the FBI knows how he did it.
Jerry gets a 37 month, sentence

1073
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,100
has to pay.
Twelve million dollar

1074
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:32,700
restoration, retribution which
we know will never see.

1075
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:33,300
Right.
Yeah.

1076
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:37,400
Totally 37 months like if you're
gonna do it, do it.

1077
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,800
Yeah.
Some of these other people got

1078
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,200
way more than that and he was
like the head.

1079
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:44,200
Well it's cuz he was because he
cooperate.

1080
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,900
Yeah, he cooperated and fucking
little effort.

1081
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:49,900
Yeah totally go figure.
You ready to know how he did it?

1082
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:52,600
I'm like, dying.
I'm on the edge of my seat.

1083
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,900
Yes, please tell me how he did
it.

1084
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,900
So everything was up to In of
all the way through up the

1085
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:04,700
process up until Jerry left the
printer with the tickets.

1086
01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:07,600
So what they would do as I
mentioned before is they would

1087
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,700
stop the writer for print the
winners, the winners?

1088
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:15,100
Yes, take them out he ever,
everyone was witnessing, he

1089
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:19,100
would put them in and I'm bloap.
Hmm, seal the envelope, he would

1090
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:21,900
put one of those security tapes,
you know, those like shiny

1091
01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:24,700
silver things but if you tear
it, you can tell that it's torn.

1092
01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:26,900
Yeah.
Flip it over, right?

1093
01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:29,400
The number of tickets in the
envelope, huh.

1094
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:34,300
Put it in a briefcase click.
It had two sides of combination.

1095
01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:38,100
Take the briefcase, put it in
the safe, shut the safe and it

1096
01:03:38,108 --> 01:03:42,100
was there until he came back
with was a Hilda, whatever.

1097
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:45,400
It was to get it to take it to
the airport, okay?

1098
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,200
So one of us time to get the
winning tickets to the

1099
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,700
manufacturers, to put on the
card and in the magazines and

1100
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:55,200
blah blah, blah.
Jerry along with Hilda, what

1101
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,400
open up?
The Safe.

1102
01:03:57,700 --> 01:04:01,900
Get the briefcase out.
Go to the airport.

1103
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:09,400
They frequent flyer, they were
frequent flyers.

1104
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:14,500
They got to go to all of those,
you know, uppity fancy Club, so

1105
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:17,900
sure.
Well, Jerry had to go potty.

1106
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:21,800
Every time.
So helda was supposed to be with

1107
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,800
him in the briefcase at all
times.

1108
01:04:24,300 --> 01:04:26,100
Make sense?
Yeah, makes sense.

1109
01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:28,800
But are you going to go to Jerry
with the bathroom?

1110
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,400
Oh, you do not want to go with
Jerry.

1111
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,400
Do the math when I go to jury?
Number one weird to watch him.

1112
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,500
Go number one word.
Yeah, I can do it.

1113
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:37,400
Even number two is even numbers,
good idea.

1114
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:39,900
So Jerry would go into the
bathroom.

1115
01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:45,200
Go into a stall, he put his coat
in one side.

1116
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,700
He figured out probably by
looking over her shoulder.

1117
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,700
What her coat was, of course?
But in her code flipped, open

1118
01:04:53,700 --> 01:04:56,600
that side, open it up.
Now, he's got the envelope to

1119
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,600
deal with, huh?
The effing company?

1120
01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:05,600
That printed the security labels
on the envelopes?

1121
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,700
Yeah, shipped.
Accidentally a pact to Jerry

1122
01:05:08,700 --> 01:05:13,200
number one, so he has Add those
security labels.

1123
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:18,300
So he would slice open that the
envelope.

1124
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:22,400
Yeah, take out the winners.
He had a pocket full of the old

1125
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,900
ones.
He would count out whatever than

1126
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:28,500
envelopes.
Yeah, 37 put him in the

1127
01:05:28,508 --> 01:05:31,900
envelope.
Take his brand new security tape

1128
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:36,900
that he had placed it on there.
Put it in seal.

1129
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:40,300
It never opened.
Never open.

1130
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:43,400
It's like they want.
Wanted him to stop the Chateau,

1131
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,000
you know, the facts that like
the security tape was actually

1132
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,700
mailed directly to him, it's
like that.

1133
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,400
When I see these criminals get
all these fucking breaks makes

1134
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,400
me so mad.
They take advantage of the

1135
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,200
brakes.
I'm sure that you've had breaks

1136
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,700
and you did not taken advantage
of them, right?

1137
01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:01,000
Probably.
But you know what?

1138
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,400
Karma's a bitch.
So exactly clearly clearly.

1139
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:07,700
Yeah.
Oh.

1140
01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:10,700
So in my notes I said I got to
read this it says he would open

1141
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:13,100
up the envelope.
Take out the winners, replace

1142
01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:16,100
the non-winners, seal up the
envelope, put it back into the

1143
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:19,200
briefcase, wipe his butt and
head back to the case.

1144
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:23,000
Don't forget about the wiping
his butt.

1145
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:26,200
And so, then when he would go to
the manufacturers and give him

1146
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,700
the winners, right?
Clearly not the winners

1147
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:32,400
corrected me and they said, the
FBI said he'd make a big deal of

1148
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,600
it.
He'd go to the printers and go

1149
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,900
look everyone.
Here's the sealed envelope says

1150
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:40,000
37 winners and he would you can
see on one side.

1151
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,000
It is very clear.
And it's perfectly sealed.

1152
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:48,500
Never open the seal as such
look.

1153
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:53,000
Normal envelope, normal tickets
on the inside.

1154
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,300
Exactly.
This is the little, that's what

1155
01:06:55,300 --> 01:06:58,000
he would do is just make this
big show of it.

1156
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,500
So damn, and so then of course,
when you get home, he would sell

1157
01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:04,400
the winners to mob Jerry and
then mob Jerry would pick the

1158
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,100
people.
He wanted to be the winners.

1159
01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:11,600
And the deal is, they was split
the money and security jinsuk

1160
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:13,800
security Jerry.
Of course, was making money

1161
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,700
instantly mobster was making
money but then who got fucked.

1162
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:20,200
All those, poor women people?
Yes.

1163
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,400
One woman, he conned the mob
Jerry, he gave her a ten

1164
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,200
thousand dollar winner.
She, of course, had to give him

1165
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,200
five thousand dollars and then
she got ended up getting

1166
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,900
nothing.
She ended up somehow showing the

1167
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,100
IRS like fifty thousand dollars.
Yeah, it's got EFT.

1168
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:39,800
Yeah, yeah.
It's because it's a gift.

1169
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,400
So they look at it and they see
like the 20,000 or whatever it

1170
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,000
is or 10,000.
Yeah.

1171
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:48,300
And then if it puts you up over
like a specific Echelon, or

1172
01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:51,500
whatever, exactly.
Like the yeah, no, she's fucking

1173
01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:54,100
stupid.
So Jerry number to his wife,

1174
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,400
Robin, she serves three years in
prison.

1175
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:00,200
The marketing and the printing
company shut down.

1176
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,300
Thousands of workers lost their
job because because a jury

1177
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,100
number fucking one thousands of
course.

1178
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,100
And because Jerry number two was
such a dbag.

1179
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:18,600
Mmm, Someone calls the FBI and
tells them about this scam which

1180
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,300
is what I always started.
Ryan tires.

1181
01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:24,500
Yeah.
Francesco.

1182
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,899
Jerry Columbus is Mother.
Okay?

1183
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,500
Hey, did Robin.
Why did she hate Robin?

1184
01:08:33,700 --> 01:08:36,300
Because she blamed Robin for
killing her son.

1185
01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:40,200
Oh, because it was a car
accident car accident.

1186
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,600
Yeah, he driving.
Yes.

1187
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:47,100
Okay, yeah.
And She thought she was a

1188
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:50,600
terrible mother so she took her
Robinson while she was in

1189
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:58,200
prison. and so, No one is saying
who the informant is like, the

1190
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,200
FBI won't say.
No one will say the informant is

1191
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:05,100
but everyone is quite confident.
It's very it was Frank's number

1192
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:07,100
two's mother, of course it
called.

1193
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,300
She's like, she's got nothing to
lose like her son's dad.

1194
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:12,399
Hmm.
She wants Robin to suffer.

1195
01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:15,700
Yeah, she's got Robin.
Sunshield she got that from him

1196
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:16,899
or her?
Yeah.

1197
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:18,800
So now I'm going to call the
FBI.

1198
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,600
Tell them about this story and
let her get effed.

1199
01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:24,800
Over this Monopoly game too.
That's the theory.

1200
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,000
I mean that makes Total sense to
me.

1201
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,899
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.

1202
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:34,700
Yeah, so for their cooperation
is a lot of the women winners

1203
01:09:34,700 --> 01:09:38,100
were just given probation.
Sure, many of them were, we

1204
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:42,600
gotta be ready for things.
Oh my God, the IRS money and now

1205
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,700
they're going to jail stupidity,
dude.

1206
01:09:45,899 --> 01:09:51,000
The big players were convicted.
And, of course, tax of except

1207
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,500
for, you know, Terry number to
kick the bucket, right?

1208
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:55,800
Right.
He got his come.

1209
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:59,900
I guess he did.
Yeah, it just goes to prove that

1210
01:09:59,900 --> 01:10:03,400
I call this greed and Chaos.
Hmm.

1211
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,900
It you have to pay for it.
You have no matter what.

1212
01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:10,300
It doesn't matter what happens.
Like you're gonna there has to

1213
01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:11,600
be something as we pay.
Yeah.

1214
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:17,100
Like get-rich-quick schemes are
never use your head.

1215
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,300
People of rewards that goddamn
and remember at the end of the

1216
01:10:20,308 --> 01:10:22,100
day, you always have to pay
taxes.

1217
01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:24,600
Exactly.
Thanks, don't think you're gonna

1218
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,800
get one by That's my story.
I have never heard.

1219
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,900
I had no idea.
I just knew that there.

1220
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:34,800
I had never seen a winner.
Yeah, that was a fun one.

1221
01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:37,100
Yeah I did.
It doesn't make me want

1222
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:38,700
McDonald's.
Yes.

1223
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:42,700
Definitely.
Oh my God.

1224
01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:44,600
Thank you for that one.
Welcome hope you enjoyed.

1225
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:45,700
I did.
Definitely.

1226
01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:47,800
Well thanks.
We'll see you next time on the

1227
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,900
flippity-flop.
Okay, bye.