Mermaids:Fairy Tale or Cryptid?

0:01 Well, hello, bizarre story friends. If you're tuned in now, you are listening to the bizarre AF, a place where we talk about the strange, the Absurd, the unknown, and all things bizarre, a AF, I'm Alicia your host for this episode. As always, we ask that you keep an open mind, keep a skeptical year but keep on listening to the facts. As we take you on our newest Journey, mermaids, fairytale or Cryptid.

0:59 Well, hello, hello. Hello my merman Kevin. Hi, how are you doing? Boo thing, I'm doing good. How are you? Good I've got especially right now. Well Ikea, I'm looking at this thing right here. Yes mean one key. Yes. So if you if you are not watching, you know, I'm sorry but you should be watching hold that up to the camera but yeah you got look at that. It's not only real champ Agni from France on a yeah. She's got some gold glitter in there and it makes it look like a snow globe. It does. It's so pretty. I thought gosh, we're doing an episode on mermaids. Yes.

1:41 So scales glitter, I kind of like works. It's all it's all encompassing. So always figure out a way to make champagne work. Yeah, Mmm, delicious. Thank you. So, I know, I know that you have a whole Christmas tree. Dedicated I do merman. I do. I love them. Yeah. Have you always loved more people? Yeah, yes, animating. Okay. I think it's a one of those mystical. Creatures that I just think is the coolest idea. It is a I totally agree with you. It's a really cool idea where you did. You love like the water. And yeah, just the fact that it was it's almost like the opposite of people. Being able to fly.

2:26 Yes. Hmm. People being able to breathe underwater? Yeah. Kind of like the opposite, right? Yeah, I think both would just be so friggin cool. Oh my God, I would love it. I totally agree. So what about there's a new live action. Little Mermaid by Disney that's coming out. It's starring Halle Bailey who she's amazing. There is some controversy, initially of her being cast, which is fucking stupid stupid. Yeah. She has an amazing voice and she is every part. I don't know as a person who loves mermaids, who Ariel was my favorite princess, huh? Oh my God, I wish I would have had Hallie Bailey, you know, as a girl to look up. Because I nobody's hair looks like mine. When I was I'd like none of them, right? The princess is didn't look like much like me except for Jasmine or people are honest later but, you know, not really. Yeah.

3:23 Are you gonna go see it are gonna go see the movie? Probably not. But no, no, no. I mean, I want to see it, but I don't, I don't know but because I definitely want to watch it. Okay, you'll watch, I'm gonna watch it, but you're not gonna go like I don't I'm going to be like an eager beaver, beaver to the theater, okay? I'm like, I'm not that into it. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, that makes sense. And I won't judge you too harshly. Okay, you're gonna be first in line, aren't you? Yeah. I mean I might, I might be depending on when you're listening to this, it is going to be coming out and met. So we are are releasing, you know, our podcast talking about it, but also The Barbie movie is coming out and I think I'm also going to be, I think it'll be a no fucking line for that one-eyed. Are you?

4:17 That's another one? I'm not sure. I would pay to see well I'm gonna pay in some way form or fashion to see it but um well you can see all the hot pink. I know you could like oligo is Ken and Barbie oh my God. Yes, so fun. Yes, totally. I mean, you know, I know we're talking about, I mean, come on actually they're worth this. I can make this work. I can make this conversation be relevant. I Had mermaids were my favorite. Yeah, and I had all mermaid, but like, my mermaid, Barbies were the ones that I loved the most, and there will be a mermaid Barbie in the Barbie movie. So, really yeah, which will be really cool. Do a leap, I think is playing the mermaid 10. Is there going to be multiple Barbies in the Barbie movie?

4:59 Yeah, shut up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do they even have like ones that are? Yeah, yeah. I'll do my God. Okay, that's okay. Now, I'm intrigued. It's worth the idea and it's gonna be really funny anyways. Okay, getting back to my roots. I was a lover of water ocean, you know? And I was a huge fan of The Little Mermaid. I actually thought when I was a kid, that mermaids were real. All right? I believed that they are real. I get it. You got it. I get it. Did you get why you would think they were real? Well, like, I don't know. I think maybe it's Maybe not but like, they weren't. So, I mean, it is far-fetched if you think about it but like you almost think like it's plausible. Yeah, there's so much water right, right on the on the earth.

5:54 So it would make sense. Yeah. But there would be. Yeah I remember I was living in Arizona. Hmm and we were driving by the canals in Arizona. There's like a ton of canals in Arizona and we're driving by one of the canals and I must have said it out loud. I was probably like six seven, something like that. I set it all out. I was like oh gosh, I really I hope I wonder if there's mermaids in here. My dad opened, where were you Arizona and I can, our would do you recommend whether we're driving along a canal and I was like I wonder if they're a mermaid and I must have said it out loud and in your kid brain. It's like that's the kind of Wonder You have about the worker. You just said it out loud.

6:34 Yeah. I just said it out loud. And my dad said at least showed that you know there's no such Things as mermaids, right? And I looked at him, I was horrified dare you. It was like learning the Santa Claus wasn't real, like magic had been removed from me, unfortunately, not but, you know, we'll talk about a little bit later, but, you know, maybe there are, there's something to the whole mermaid thing. Maybe, maybe my Dad could have been wrong. Well, people are convinced, there's a Bigfoot that's true. Llamas monster Loch, Ness. That's very true. I mean hey it could happen happen. So okay, when we look back ultimately in time and try to find, you know, the origins of mermaids because that's, you know, that's kind of what I wanted to try to do like where the fuck does this come from all of the signs point to Greeks and their ideas of sirens and the sirens are not what we pictured. What we picture of like mermaids today when you think of a person, like what is it that you're thinking of, well, there's two Versions.

7:38 Yes. There's that typical Ariel. Yes, mermaid, pretty pretty. Yeah, Splash then there's the Wednesday siren, the sirens like a purse of really a person that can just Swim you know be a mermaid or a man. Yeah, but less fairytale fictional and just more kind of realistic more of an actual person person that can they can convert into that. Okay, right? Yeah. And by I just have to say this they've really big of a over those of you that have not watched Wednesday. The mail siren in that show is so bleeping. Hot is he?

8:26 I haven't seen Wednesday, dude? I know Alicia. Alicia of to they have Sirens. I would love it if sirens and they're cool people. Right? And especially this one male siren. Yeah, he's yum, yum. Okay, yeah, I mean, I will never say no to some eye candy. Yeah, exactly. Okay. So the Greeks actually thought of sirens as half-bird like people. Although there were some like half-fish more people I think like King Triton, King, Triton was a god, like the god of water. Hmm. So you may have heard of them in school when you were learning of the fucking weirdest story, which was the Odyssey.

9:12 Did you ever read The Odyssey? I don't think so. I mean, I feel like maybe I did because I, yeah, I don't know. You've definitely heard of it. Yeah, definitely seen the story played out, which it was like a series of poems, really? It's by its by Homer. But Odysseus is Natalie. He's a king. He's a king of this place called Ithaca and he's sailing back home. After the torch otra, excuse me. Good God. Trojan War. Come on champagne. Kick in. So the journey lasted 10 years and everyone thought of of Odysseus is being dead. They thought that he was dead but really it was because he had a lot of perils. He and his crew had suffered on this trip back from the Trojan War.

9:58 Can I ask a question? Yes. Ours is this. This along the same lines as Zeus and the gods, or is this like a real? This is not percent, that's a great question. It's believed to have been like there could have been people that it was based off of. Uh-huh. But ultimately it's really a tale like an epic. It's an epic like like maybe lord of the think Lord of the Rings or something. So it's like a person who's going on this Epic Journey. Okay. Yeah, so it's a, it's a story that's been passed down for abs. Yes. Yeah. From the Greeks. Yeah. And the Great Lakes classic Greek. This was like one of the most classic.

10:38 Greek stories that we still have today which kind of makes because, you know, they wrote all of that shit about the gods and yeah you know Zeus and the peeps. I'm going blank on other names, I wanted to Rattle them off because I was yeah. Anyway, yeah. So that's why I was wondering that if this kind of maybe it does that it rings like that, right? Yes. Yeah, it's an epic. Like a lot of those stories are okay X, right. Okay, so, okay where we're at. Okay, so they him and his crew Odysseus in. The crew actually run into some sirens and the sirens are because they're traveling near this. Like land that used to think that there was a land of PSI of the sirens.

11:23 So don't get too close to this, these like series of islands or else, your something bad's going to happen. So what Odysseus does is they know that they're going to be going near this land. So, Odysseus says okay, Krill, this is what's going to happen, but bees wax in your ears. So they work like earplugs. Okay. And I because if they listen to the siren song, They're Gonna Be go to their death. Yeah? Right. I want to hear the sirens song because I'm fuckin Odysseus and of course I like honestly, whatever. He's like so timing of the Mast because I you want us to hear it. The dude has like a torture king or something. Okay, so the idea behind it is the siren song would end up steering, the boat to hazardous water, hazardous Waters, and cause them to kill themselves, or drown themselves or or take down the ship. Beep.

12:19 Whatever the case may be. Yeah. So you really you basically become under their control when you hear their song. Yes. And you're doomed. Yeah, but it's marking, right? Okay. So that's like a very classic story of sirens half bird, like, people write some of them were half fish, but mainly have friends. Yeah, there's weren't swimming, they weren't necessarily as Oneness links swimming. Yeah, birds like flying. Yes, got ya, okay. So these Sirens were then taken from the Greeks. Um, by the Christians during medieval times as they always did, right? And they were used as a symbol for Dangerous Temptation, and The Wiles of women. Sure dangerous women, right?

13:03 Like God forbid. A woman has sure right fucking history. So these folks decided to make the sirens like the medieval folks decided to make these Sirens more appealing. So they removed the whole like bird body, you know, from below the way. Waste. It wasn't a bird body anymore. They looked at a fish and we're like, yeah, that looks hot. So make it half woman, half fish? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Who looks at a fish and thinks it's fucking hot. I don't know. But it mostly on my man on my on my track, that's just like something. You know, what I think it is especially for the man, it's because it's like feminine and masculine. And these men are hyper-masculine, are hyper masculine, that's very true.

13:49 And then you have This like feminine, like fish. Mixing the two together, there's something about it. It's just, it's hot. In fact that it's sexy. I mean, do I want to swim underwater for a long period of time? Yeah, of course, it does. I will say you're a merman, which if we can find a picture, I don't have a picture of your tree at all. Maybe, somewhere. I might. Yeah. I'm, um, if we can find it, we should put it on our Instagram. Yeah. I would like it is a whole whole Christmas tree filled with Customer men. And these are like intricate. Like, oh there's a filmer, man, a construction work. And dr. Hot and you're hot. Do they all have names? Yeah, they do.

14:30 They all have names. Yeah. Randy like like what was it? Like football Johnson. Okay, so um, you know, we're making 1/2 woman or half-human half-fish The first known. Actually, you know, written down verbiage of a siren as a mermaid appeared in the Anglo Latin catalog Lieber monstro totem monster, mm fucking about it. What's the catalog for? Well, it just says it like, gives you just like talking about?

15:14 Yes. Yeah. So it catalogs like different. Okay. Like Animals think that. Yeah, so it says that Sirens were see girls with the body of a maiden, but have scaly fish has tails. That was the first like mention of it in regards to Folklore our mermaid or a merman like creature. You know, they spanned the world all over the world different cultures had this interesting. Yeah, it goes all over and I'll tell you a little bit more about some of them we see them right as in the Western World, there As you know, beings that would learn men to their death, but sometimes they would help folks, if they answered riddles, correctly, right? Or they would abduct an unsuspecting woman to become their Brides, like they grab them, and take them under the, under the sea and they'd have to, you know, I don't know, I guess have their children and stuff like that. Wait, the mermaid with wait, who would Heather's children's? Somer people.

16:19 Many men would go and grab women and bring them under water have their bait. Have their babies, got it. Yeah. But in China, hurry Young new, which I'm awful. But whatever. Its. I love when you try to print try, I try it's so hard. I love it. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just course really fucking bad me too. So, um, that's the feet, the female of its of its kind, had a head of a beautiful womans with hair like a horse's. Tail. So like super long, thick hair and white skin like Jade without scales. They were covered with multicolored Downy hair like peach fuzz and they were legless the Met male and females, they both had sexual organs like humans did so that this is kind of fucked up. So that widows or widowers could keep them in their ponds like in their homes and the creatures could Perform sexual intercourse.

17:21 Normally, as a human would you make kind of like a thing on the side like oh and we're really on the side of your house. Oh I need I need some action. Oh let me go get my fish. Yeah hey hey not maybe we shouldn't say Ariel but like hey right. Hey Sheldon right you know it's about time mama mama needs some. I need to get some of that. So that was like, that's in China, right? Let's see. So then we have the Philippines. It really depends on which ethnic group you're speaking to within the Philippines, all of them have different types of mermaid, like creatures. Now, you look at a lot of these, these ideas, and it's oftentimes islands are places that are surrounded by water, which, of course it would be because, yeah, you know, right? The water, yeah.

18:16 So one mermaid, Is a is the queen of the sea who married a human and actually, this is in the Philippines and ruled Humanity for a time. Another had mermaids that were known for their beautiful voice and vicious nature. So then Zimbabwe they were then in Jutsu. And those were believed to be solitary and occupied, only one body of water there. So they could be benevolent, they could be malicious, they, the angry ones would be blamed for misfortunes that. We're having like, you know oh sure that's something the blames and yeah, so you blame them like bad weather, disappearance of people.

18:59 So if a person actually went near when you're missing near a lake around there, it was the mermaids fall. It was the mermaids fall and an order to to get their their missing. Loved one back, they would have to, they would have to go Offer some beer or like food or whatever, to these Ninjutsu toes and the local Elders would would go give a give this offering and and the family members could not cry if the person cried then they would not be released.

19:40 So if the person was released from these merpeople then they would be known as traditional Healers. The person that was released. Yeah. Do you want? Doesn't it make you wonder like how did all of this? Like, how did they go? How did they figure out like oh, you can't cry. Like how does that mean? It's just fascinating. Like I don't expect us to know the answer but it's fascinating like, how that and same with Traditions to I suppose anywhere where you those all these different little things like you have to do this with transmitted around or whatever, right? Oh totally staged Stuff stage stuff. Yeah, been around spit. You know, whatever fucking Curse or? Yeah, it's fast.

20:24 That's fascinating. It's really cool. So another one that we have and this is the last one that I'll kind of go over is in Middle Eastern. So we have One Thousand and One Nights that story, there are depictions of mermaids and they're basically identical to land-bound humans. Right. The only way that they differ is that they can breathe. Like, you are saying, breathe underwater and they can live underwater. So they can, and do interbreed with humans and the children of these of these half merpeople, half humans have the ability to to live under water.

21:05 They can create these whole societies. So there's an entire different Society underwater, right? So you know, there's a shitload of different types of and that's just skimming the surface. There are so many other types of mermaids known in South America, every every country Every continent has their own version of a mermaid, but one form for at least us the Western World stuck. And guess, which story I'm talking about? The little man, The Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Andersen. I actually have that, that's a nice-looking book, that's really nice. This is the first English English version of The Little Mermaid. Dave got it for me.

21:53 What a great Christmas. Present. Sounds sweet like the, it's the best anyways. So, in The Little Mermaid, you know? This one right? Like, yep. Have you seen the movie? You know, all about it? Yeah. Do you like it? Yeah, it's entertaining. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah, it's great. Who's your favorite character protagonist in The antagonism? Is a typical story. It's like, that's why it's a good story because it always has it's the same pattern, right? It's got all the stuff and one of the best villains. And I think, yeah, she's Ursula wrestlers. Great. Yeah, stage actress. Mmm. So much of it of the actual story that Hans Christian Andersen did is the same.

22:34 As, you know, The Little Mermaid, you know, you have ultimately, you know, the little mermaid in the, in the story Ariel's character is the youngest she's the youngest out of all of her sister. She has like, five sisters. And each sister is a year older than the other. So, Each one. Yeah, so they're just like five of them right in a row and when mermaids turn and in this, you know world, when mermaids turn 15, they're allowed to swim to the surface and observe life above water. Okay? Yeah. So that's only when you turn 15 that you can do that. So all of her sisters, go and she hears about it right for like five years before, right? He's able to go, right?

23:20 So this creates like this longing. She's like a Obsessed with like you know the human world. She finds up statue underwater, right? Just like she did in in the movie. She has like these gadgets and gizmos aplenty, right? Yes. And so she's just becomes fascinating and almost obsessive about the human world and she knows she has to be 15 in order to actually look up there and to be able to experience or see what the human worlds like. So, She turns 15 and goes to see what is happening above water? Yes. Just like in the movie, she sees Prince, Eric on a boat having a party and she's like, oh my God, she falls in love with him. So she sits there and she's like well I really want to be with this man.

24:13 Like how can I how can I live on the surface? Incomes Ursula, right? Boom. Boom. Yeah. So, she makes that deal with a sea witch, and she tells her, you know, once you take this potion, one, you have to give me your voice. So, and, of course, she has the best voice. She has, she does. And in the story, she has the most beautiful voice in the whole Kingdom. Like nobody has a better voice than she does. And of course, Ursula with one that. Yeah, well and She's doing a song. Okay, I'm sorry, but Ursula does get a bad rap. She's seriously doing aerial assault Ariel's. Like I'm not gonna listen to my dad II. Just like this boy, an Ursula's like, you know, you're a fucking idiot, right?

25:00 Like you're 15 years old, keep it in your pants. It's like look around. There's there are many other options. You really want to do this. She's like, yeah, I want to do this. Okay, give me your voice. Okay, fine, I'll give you my voice for a man, so awful. Okay. Gross. Although we love the little mermaid, we hate that fact about exactly. So, so she says, okay yeah, I'll do it. Takes her voice. And honestly Ursula's giving her a fair fair trade, right? She's saying, look, you want to be above water. This is how you have to do it. You can't just get it for free Ariel. Okay, I can't remember. Does When she says, give me your voice, was it just her singing voice or wizard?

25:43 Like she came and talked, she's totally Mia. Yeah she's helped me mentally. She can't talk at all. Okay. No because then Ursula says and don't forget the importance of body language. I should've killed that up and had it, but everyone knows that and also Disney. We do not want to be sued by a great lawyers. So good. Yeah, we just appreciate it. So She makes that deal. And what Ursula says it? Or the sea, which in this case, she says, is once you take this potion, you're going to feel like there's a sword passing through you. Okay. It's gonna be incredibly painful and by the way, your you will be the best dancer.

26:27 Once you get up to the surface, you will be an amazing dancer. However, every single step you take on land is going to feel like you're walking on Sharp knives. Okay, so, And that's, and that's, that's part of story, right? So she's like, okay, I guess I'll have to deal with that. She's like, are you sure you want to do this? Yes, I still want to do this because I can't keep it in my pants or in my friends. Whatever. So the in the story again another let me just, let me just throw this out there. Haven't you ever been in a position where you're like? You're so And they have written a bird folk like yes.

27:10 Yeah I walk on glass. Yes. Yeah yeah yeah. I mean, the moment you're like yeah, of course. Yeah. Of course, in the moment and she's 15 and 15. Yeah. Hormones are racing, girl. Don't know nothing. No, she has no fucking clue, right? She's dumb. Young and dumb, right. Do I get do we Get what Ariel's like going through. Yeah, yeah, we talked about it again, especially at 15, especially at 15. Yeah, so mermaids in Hans Christian, Andersen's story, they lived to be 300 years old humans, you know, not as long.

27:52 The problem with mermaids is, yes, they have a life expectancy of 300 but once they die, they turn into Sea Foam and they just don't exist anymore. Okay, human Live a lot shorter lives, but they have a soul and potentially, you know, can go to heaven or whatever like they have an afterlife. Okay, in trichy has a soul there, they have a soul. So ultimately Ariel. The Little Mermaid has to get the prince to fall for her if she wants a soul. Right? He has to fall in love with her. Hmm. So this will allow his soul to actually see pinned to her and to her. So she gets a part of his soul, which is pretty fucking EP right, right? It gets creepy.

28:38 Still lives, 300 years, but she won't be seafoam. None around row know if she does she's about then it's done. She's just like she's now everything. She's a human and she has part of his soul. Right? Yeah. So she does not live until she's 300 years old. She's a human. She's just a total human. Yeah. She almost has a voice not well. I think that she does get her voice. I think she may get her voice. I'm not entire. You know what? I'm not entirely. Sure. I haven't read this book, which I probably shouldn't I, when I read the bucket. Yeah, totally. Okay, so, so the prince ultimately finds her. Oh, and by the way, same thing with the little mermaid, you know, how Ariel actually saves Prince Eric because they get into a shipwreck and like she saves him and he sees her and he's like Echo enamored by her but, you know, he it's the same exact story so she had saved him but she couldn't talk to her because she had to hurry up and go into the back into the ocean, right?

29:44 Yeah. Same thing happens. So the prince actually, you know, sees her, she's a great dancer and he thinks that she's, you know, great companion. But you know, she can't talk, she can only dance once again, fucking walking on straight up knives every time that she's dancing for him. When he's like, go Monkey, Go. Dance for me, I'm a prince, you know, like she's like how I love you, you know, like I can't talk to you like all this dumb shit. Yes, oh my God is sometimes it's so stupid. It is so slow. I can't believe is my favorite movie. What the fuck you talking about loud? Like what am I wrong with me? What is wrong? So since since he said you know the only she's trying it once again, get him to fall in love with her dancing. Whatever it is, he's her, she's his favorite. Companion.

30:36 And he confesses to her saying, look, I will only love one person ever and it's that person who had who had saved me, but he was convinced that it was a woman who went to this Temple or this like church or something. And he had been looking for her and couldn't find her. She can't say, hey look, it actually was me, right? So he ends up, since she's nowhere to be found because he's a fucking idiot. Honestly, Eric is he's hot, but he's an idiot. Right like young dumb and full of it. Yeah, yes. Which we love that. It's great when they're dumb but but also, yeah, he's fucking stupid. She's right there.

31:17 The only thing that's changed about her is, I don't know, she has legs like there's nothing else has changed anyways. So she since he can't find her, he is then marrying, a neighboring, princess right from a neighboring town, or whatever. His parents like, okay. You need. To get married. He's like, okay, fine, I'll marry, you know, this girl, so his aerial sisters find out about this and say, fuck, you need to go to see which so they go to the Sea which are Schley and Ursula gives her gives the girls a dagger, and so, and asks for their hair and returns. So, they got a greedy, little bitch. I'm sorry, she just wants and wants and wants from everybody else. Your boys your hair.

32:03 Yeah, she does. She totally does but she's like okay she's not asking them to come to her like in an Ursula is like defense true. She's not asking anyone to come. That's true. They're just doing it. Yeah. So right. Hey, if you're going to be idiots and give me your hair, then yeah. Fucking give me her. Although Ursula had great hair. She did she at? It was a look I loved and just yeah, just made sure there was a price to pay. Yes, we do not work for free. It's you should not work for free, none of us. Us Judd. So she gets the the dagger, you know, with the hair, the sisters come to Ariel and her like hey you can still come back, right? Because he's already falling in love or like marrying this woman.

32:49 He's gonna end up falling in love with her. Once that happens, you know, you're gonna die. Yeah. There's a way that you can still keep your your life and then come back to the ocean. You take this dagger and you have to stab him. Have his blood, touch your feet which will turn your feet into the fence. Like I said, there is a price, there's a price for everything. Meanwhile, this is a children's story. Okay, right. So so The Little Mermaid has to go and do that right? Wait, sorry. It was this in the movie know, this horse. Not right?

33:30 No. No, of course not. Yeah, no, no one in the movie, of course. It Ends happily like they just have Eric and Ariel get married. The bitch got. Stabbed the boy. Yeah because he's for sure marrying. Some right, he's such a fucking idiot. He has no idea what the woman who saved him looked like, although he's like obsessed with her. He doesn't realize she's sitting right next to him. Like he's a fucking idiot, but, whatever. So if she does, do this, right gets the blood on her feet, she will Dissolve or she'll go back and live with her family.

34:10 So she goes into the room because he's already been married. He/she goes into his room. Where his bride is sleeping next to him and has the dagger and is getting ready to stab him. He wakes up. No she's like I can't do it. So once she decides I can't do it. Her body dissolves into fall. Kevin yes, that wasn't part of the deal shit hurts. That wasn't part of the deal well because she doesn't do it, and he's like, he just I'm assuming consummated, the marriage or whatever, and it's like falling in love with his wife. She didn't, she wasn't able to make him fall in love with her. So she just turns into Sea Foam, right? But, but here's the caveat, okay? So there's the pile of seafoam, right by his bed. That's a great question.

35:04 I would assume so how did maybe she? Like, maybe because it is like the fuck is this is disgusting. I'm assuming shoe, you know, just turned into Sea Foam there, but I'm not entirely sure. So she ends up, you know, dying or like dying turning into Sea Foam. Yeah, but she wants really, it was what she's wanting us to have a humans, you know, All that's like her number one thing. She's like, I really want to be human. I want to have a soul. Well, had he fallen in love with her? She could have had that. Yeah, I know she didn't fucking do that but so I guess because she wanted it so bad, you know, the universe said, hey, you know what we do?

35:51 We thought too fast about. Yeah, let's turn this foam into like ghosty stuff. So you're going to be a ghost like an Earthbound Spirit. Okay. And you have to help Humanity for 300 years. Do good, deeds. AIDS, once you do that for 300 years then you can have a soul and like dyerson. Yeah, yeah. But it takes the Earth with this person who's been long dead that you love. Yes. Yeah. How fucked up is that rate? I know. So, what's the moral of the story? Yeah, I don't know. Don't like, I think ultimately from our point of view, don't give up your voice for a fucking stupid ass. Prince, an idiot, right?

36:32 An idiot. Love sucks or you can just be like, okay, whatever. I'm just, yeah, love is pain. Just don't just go and live in the ocean. Okay, I'm sure there is a guy who's better than that prince, in that ocean. You have the best voice and just live. 300 years in turn into Sea Foam and be done with it. Yeah. Like you have to do fucking a Penance like helping out human beings who like really are the only reason for your downfall, you write like right? I know Oh, it's so fucking stupid. So when I heard that story is like, uh, actually it's like pretty fucked up, which all those were fucked. All those fairy tales and stories because I mean if you like really read into the they're effed.

37:18 They are so fucked. Yeah which I in a future episode that's on our list is. Yeah the grammar the Grimm fairy tales. Yeah. And Hans Christian Andersen. Like they're both like one of the same, he may have stolen some different episode. So we know the Tails behind like the mermaids, right? Okay. And you know what? The reality like the historic history and historically like what mermaids had been like, but Sailors used to say that they saw mermaids. Okay, so Sailors would speak of seeing things that they didn't understand which fucking duh, it's the ocean, the ocean, right? We're still finding sea creatures that we didn't to this day by the way. Yes, yes.

38:03 And we're like we've never seen Seen that thing before or we thought that was extinct, of course they'd be seeing things that they didn't know. Okay. So I'm going to have us enter into, you know, or World. Okay. Back in the days of sailing, okay, okay. Years ago, we're going to be going on a long Voyage, like, like years. We're talking like, Christopher Columbus time. Like sure. Like no technology, like, yes. Yeah, we don't know, we don't know. A lot of stuff we I know a lot of things we don't know where a lot of things are. Yeah. Oftentimes like the, the things that we are using like, in order to measure distance, or measure where we're going aren't incredibly reliable. Yeah.

38:46 Stars are ya. So we're on this Voyage, we're semen and fed a, we're we're. So and we're Here with these people and it's the same fucking gross dudes that you've been with for months and right. So anything you were thinking about doing with them. Has already been done and your vitamin deficiency. Yeah. And malnourished. Right? Right. So, you see something in the water? Oh my God. Could it be honest? I'm sorry. Go ahead hallucination. I think probably it's the size of another person. Uh-huh.

39:33 Or a bigger. Version which, you know, we like sure and you catch a glimpse, it summer person. So you follow your intuition. Oh, and I forgot. And you see a manatee. Yeah. Right in the dark. I'm sorry. That would look like a person. I would look like a person, right? But you yeah. Because you can't scoff, right? Yeah. It's been a while since a hot minute anyone else. And it's not just you. And I on this voyage that we're having, right? It's also Christopher Columbus, you know, the dude who used to have a Holiday. But then we were like, yeah, you're kind of fucked up. So, yeah, right, exactly history is like a little fuck.

40:19 He even had an encounter with a murmur person. AKA Manatee was what he saw while he was we're-we're-we're deducing. You know? For sure. Planet e. They're saying like it was a manatee. Look at this point. That's, that's what historically, they're like. Yeah, she got such as a manatee. Okay? Because there were sailing around the And Republic in 1493. Christopher, Columbus actually described in his log like he had a log that he would write in and this is what he said, he said that he saw some female forms that Rose High out of the city but we're not as beautiful as they are represented like mermaid. There we go. I right. Okay. Yeah picture.

41:02 Yeah, I mean, I guess we're not super confused like they're really cute, right? Like but like in the sea cow Little Dopey kind of we're totally not in the sexy confident way in you. So there were many sightings throughout history which could be attributed to like porpoises and manatees sure. And as public interest increased the longing for proof of an actual mermaid grew, right? Sure. So in 1822 London, provided the proof. The public wanted in 1822 1822. So it was there was an exhibition and caught near the Fiji islands. This specimen has fish scales with human hair, super imposed on its body and pendulous breasts on its chest. The mouth was wide open with its teeth bared. The right hand was against the right cheek and the left tucked under its lower left jaw, although the seat, although the origins of this mermaids unclear, one of the stories was that it was purchased by a sea captain. From Japanese Sailors around 1820 to 46 thousand dollars. Okay, six thousand dollars.

42:18 He 1822 genomic money that is so much money, it's so much money. Oh my God. So this Capital like roles and he's like like okay did you get like our oranges? Did you get our rum or whatever? Oh I just got this guy's I have I put it on the ship. Blog. Like, it's the ship's expensive report, right? It's on there. Like, honestly, like they need rations and hard tactics. Yeah. He's like, but now here's a mermaid. He's like, no, I got a mermaid. I was pretty fucking funny. But so, it was, it was being shown in, in London for a while and ultimately, it was brought to PT Barnum.

43:04 Oh, no. PT Barnum. Yeah. Who is he? He had all kinds of oddities and he PT Barnum. People, nowadays, probably know the Barnum & Bailey. Circus. Yes. And I think he was part one of The Oddities. He did a lot of The Oddities at a certain point in time. Yes, yeah. So he initially was was yeah. Like Cirque. It was a circus. And what would you have in the circus yards? You know sideshows, yeah, have like, Freaks and less and strong men. And you know the ladies or ladies stuff like that? Yeah. And then you'd have like an entire show which you know You have exotic animals and often times, they would have these like, you know, Curiosities and Oddities yes.

43:50 So PT Barnum saw and he's like oh I need to get that. I'm and so it becomes one of the infamous sideshows this feejee mermaid. Oh my God, I'm so intrigued. Yeah. So we have you seen it? Yep. Uh-huh. You seen it? Yeah, I mean the actual thing I've seen Pictures of it is. And I've also been at like, Ripley's Believe It or Not Like the stupid museums that. Yeah, that. Yeah. But they have shrunken heads. They also have like a Fiji mermaid. I went to this town in Arizona or your Texas or something called it. Or what is it? And I think it has like, a Fiji mermaid there. Yeah, what is it?

44:32 We visit a mermaid, What's Happening? Yeah, it's a start, it's like well, okay. so, What was later determined? Was that? It was a it was the Torso and the head of a monkey. Okay. Soand the back half of a fish. What? And it was mummified, what? Yeah. So now we know it was a hoax, right? It's not a real mermaid, but these things were all over the place. Wait how did it have breasts? How did it not have a full hairy body? That was a monkey. I'm so confused. Have you seen these pictures? Yeah, yeah, I can. Did it look like a potentially?

45:14 It looks weird. Look Mommy because, right, cause you're like, it's dead and it's been traveling forever and so it's gonna not look normal. Yeah, it's like Taxidermy like oh yeah right so it does look strange. So could you what were you like? Oh my God. Yeah, it looks like a person. Well I mean it has a small skull very much like a human's, right? Like monkeys have skulls that are like humans and when something's mummified it kind of looks like beef jerky doesn't really look like You know, like, it doesn't look as much like it, you still so it and we'll have a picture and you'll see it in our show notes, okay? Um, so yeah, it's a hoax. They had multiple how do they have boobs? I was a question.

45:58 They did a lot of things to these fucking of these like a so they were altering. The shit they were altering everything. Yeah, definitely. So so it was a taxidermied like top half of a fucking monkey shown with a with a Fish, like some kind of fish, right? Like a Jackalope or whatever, right? Like, it's like yeah, it's one of those creatures and a tour. Yeah. All that kind of stuff since you have those and they didn't just do it in that sense. Like, they also had like, sometimes they would use paper mache if they wanted to do a little bit cheaper, because monkeys were hard to get, but come by sometimes, they'd use different animals to make it look like a mermaid. So, it wasn't always the same thing.

46:39 They all kind of looked a little bit different, but you Going and type in type, in the Fiji mermaid and you find a bunch of different types of them. But the most famous one was that PT Barnum was okay. Because that guy was a good marketer. Yeah, well, clearly, we all to this very day. No. Don't know him and Bailey Circus. We know that it's insane thing. Okay, so we know that it was a hoax, but really doesn't stop people who claim to still see mermaids today, people will still go out now and search for these elusive creatures. And I thought that I would talk about About one Cryptid Theory as far as mermaids go and it's called The Aquatic ape I thought hypothesis. Okay. AKA aquatic ape Theory.

47:20 Okay. Okay, I'm sure you've never heard of it. Nope, me neither. I was doing this so really it's it's the proposal that the evolutionary ancestors of modern humans. Spent a period of time adapting to a semi-aquatic existence. Okay. So this is evolution from like tadpoles to humans. Yes. Yes. Not humans. Humanoid sea creatures to their yes. Oh yes to them. Yes, got it. So it's it was first proposed by German pathologist Max wine, Weston Hoffer and 1490 are 1942 and then independently by English marine biologist Alistair Hardy in 1960.

48:01 There were other people who talked about it too. So some of the evidence or claims that they would talk about was like, okay, these people are hairless. So As humans, we've become hairless, right? And that's due to adaptation. So the reason why these, you know, human ape mermaid, things was would be they'd have to be hairless because you'd be able to swim better. Right? Like, look at that. They show fans and stuff. Right? Swimmers were shaved. Yeah. So it so the water would flow evenly over the body. They also said like oh Kate. You know, they would have a descended larynx and these mermaids, right?

48:45 These apes and the human larynx is in the front of the throat. Instead of in the nasal cavity, which is a feature that shared by some aquatic animals. So it closes off the trachea while diving and it also facilitates taking large breaths of air upon surfacing. Okay, so these people are these are this is just some of the evidence that they're saying like here's the human ape hybrid. A creature Theory. They have big brains, so they, you know, humans have big brains, these human Apes. You know, burn people would have big brains and so would allow them to, you know, to have complex anatomies and Physiology and thoughts. Okay?

49:32 I don't believe any of this, just just FYI. Also, here's another Point babies can swim before walking it like, like it takes a really a long time for a baby to start walking but they can swim a lot easier that must be because there are some kind of like mer person within them in our DNA like eight people shot. Okay. Oh and we have like knows that sticks out I don't know, it's I guess it's adapted to keep splashes out of nasal cavities fuck. I don't know about you, but this seems like a really simplified way of discussing human evolution. Oh, Riley's. We both don't buy it. Yeah, right. Okay. Okay, great, right.

50:13 Not many do people understand that but not much, but it does not stop hordes of people claiming sightings of mermaids over here, right? Right. So more recently, a town on the coast of Israel in and nine had dozens of people at once stating that they saw a cross between a fish and a young girl and it only appeared at Sunset it performs, a few tricks for on look Lookers before disappearing for the night. Okay, slow mo. Cowan said I was with friends when suddenly we saw a woman laying on the sand in a weird way at first and I'm sorry Shlomo at first, I thought that she was just another sunbather When we approached, she jumped into the water and disappeared.

50:59 We were all in shock because she had a tail. Okay. When onlooker okay. Okay. So this but okay, I've got comments but keep going. So that the the town this Israeli Town actually was like, okay, look you guys get proof. I'll give you a million dollar reward for anyone who shows proof of this girl, actually existing. As of today it has not happened. You get down seven. You don't say shocking. I think, one thing that's a little bit more believable is remember, those Tic Tac videos?

51:41 Like that, the that were released by the government. They're like, we don't know. These are like, UFOs, you APS or whatever and they looked like little Tic Tacs. Like flying? Yes. Well, they release some. That also were underwater that like went from underwater to the, to the air, or from the heir to an underwater, like the same. Like it was the exact same like thing. You could see it going underwater. Something that looked like a person. Fish know what looked like these. It's a task under water. Yeah. Okay. These spacecraft. Yeah whatever. Yeah. Whatever. They are. Yeah, flying craft. Yes. I saw. They're like, wait a second. What if there actually is some kind of civilization that we don't know about that is technologically, you know, sound, or you know, better off than we are.

52:29 Uh-huh. And it's just under water with our so much of the of the ocean that we don't know about true. So they're like, what if that is actually, what more people are in there? You're really kind of similar to us, but they just have dwellings underwater. Whatever gosh technology, which is how we are able to love God. So, I don't know. I, I can kind of, like, some people, like, who study Cryptids play, like, claim that there are underwater bases, and aliens, or whatever, which are actually mermaids that live in our ocean. And, you know, they point to those Tic Tac videos as proof of it. I don't know, maybe there is something more to the whole mermaid thing. well, I mean I think you're right, I think I think it's yeah I was a Bengali even go as far as saying it's plausible. Sure that it's completely something completely something else like do Ira truly believe in mermaids I don't think I believe in mermaids.

53:29 Yeah okay. You're breaking my six-year-old heart. I know your dad already did it. Yeah, thanks Dad. But right, is it something else? But see, here's the other thing, people see what they want to see to a great agreed. I mean, if I want to see a mermaid, like, if I'm hunting for a mermaid, like, is in my life's passion. Yeah. Shimmer. I'm probably gonna think I see what you're gonna find some kind of evidence pointing you in the direction that yeah, it's a bias. Yeah. Agreed. That's fascinating. Yeah, there's and I want it to be real. I just have to say, I think I'd be freaking awesome. Yes, I still.

54:13 I would love if, you know, I don't know if the government was like, Hey, look, these things that we thought were out of this world is actually in our world and they had they like live underwater or like they live in a different dimension and are same space, like just different. We can't see that more whatever. Exactly I'd be great, maybe that could be like a mermaid. I don't fucking know. At the end of the day, I'm I would love to hear about someone in Israel claiming that reward. So let me just say because they haven't they have not now. Yeah and so here's what the first thing that crossed Maryland, what when you see we're talking about that story, I'm like someone is not necessarily playing a hoax but yeah, playing a hoax and they got some as you can.

55:01 There's some there's outfits out there. The women looked big. Brick. And look like a mermaid. Yeah, they do. And so I'm like, well, what if I said Haley? Shh, we're going to go to a beach and we're going to put you in this outfit and just going to be all nonchalant. And like if someone comes up to your something, you're just getting the water to selects one way real quick. You like, you know, let's just try to pull this off, like, I feel like that could totally do. Oh, yeah. I agree. Right. I totally agree. It would be a great like a hoax or Prank to play, but I would love to make money off. Actually, I wouldn't even want to make money off of it. I just feel like, yes I would do it.

55:41 I want to film people like frequently acting, that'd be so cool. Well, they have like those those like mermaid shows and stuff like that. I think they have it here even in Denver, the Denver. Yeah, they have the tubes a little bit him breathe. But they're like, the women are underwater with the full. I mean, they look, they have rags and stuff on sometimes. Yes. Like me, you can't. But you can't tell. Like no, it's got lace. Hell. It looks so real. So real, I would totally do it. We should do that. We could both like we could cover our like, fakely text tails up with with either like beach towels sand. Yeah. But, you know, it'd be really awkward is trying to get back on to your back into the water.

56:21 Would be like rolling. Yeah. Be flopping to be like rolling over. Hurry up. Kevin, we can't swim. He's got the Body and you've got the mermaid body. So we need to get you guys out there and then we'll film it film people's reactions. Okay? That's, that's will get us a couple of viral videos out of. Yeah. Dave, hurry up. Come on chop-chop. What you say? You can't, you can't swim with both of your feet fucked up here. Tied together, make it real. Come on, get into it. So, yeah, I wish I would love to say that. Mermaids are real, but I I just think that the evidence isn't there.

57:08 Let's not lie. My friends. I agree. I've not found anything that would make me. Go question it. No. But, meanwhile, you know, we'll go and see the little mermaid fun. Yeah. Well, it's fun. Well. Sing the songs. Yeah. And I'm gonna make my tree. Yes. Your and there's, there's like, a reminder every year exactly. Great story. Thanks, that's really fun. I was fun. That's make sure. And put pictures of remember. AIDS. Yes. I'm romance. Pictures of the Oddity. Yes. Yep. It's in the show notes, great. Hmm, yeah. I can't wait to see under the the feejee mermaid.

57:50 Awesome. Well, thanks for a great show. Thank you for fun. Yeah, see you later. Yeah. My