J-Rod and Element 115

0:01 Hello. Bizarre, story friends. If you are listening right now you are tuned into the bizarre AF where we talked about the strange, the Absurd, the unknown, and things that are bizarre a Spock, I'm Kevin, I will be your host for today's episode. And as always, we ask that you keep an open mind, keep a skeptical ear, but keep listening to the facts. As we take you on our newest, journey j-rod and element 115.

1:02 Girlfriend. How are you doing today? Oh my God. I am so good. I was so good. I didn't tell Alicia what today's episode was gonna be so she had no clue until you just said it and now I'm like oh fuck yeah fuck yeah so ready. I've been wanting to talk about this me to meet you. I was going to do like I told you I was gonna do an episode about murder, think it's? Yes and murder. Oh, wait murder. But this is just kept coming up and likewise doing read doing things and seeing notes in this just kept coming up and coming up and play. Got to get this out of my brain. Oh my God.

1:44 I am so happy. You're doing this because it's been my brain to and I'm like, I'm like okay there's so much. There's so much to talk about with us. Another one we could just do it. I mean fuck yeah yeah I mean like talk about like talk about honestly one of the one of the first Conspiracies or stories that I heard that I was like, wait, there's something to this shit, right? Yeah. I think that's why it keeps coming back into my brain because there's something with it. There's something with it. Oh my God. I am so excited for this fucking Adventure going to go on. Yes, it is going to be an adventure. So Groom Lake, Groom Lake.

2:28 Okay. Pittman station Paradise, Ranch, st. Elsewhere, Dreamland, we're okay. I've heard of that. Heard of these. Yeah, these are the many names given to Area, 51. Shut up, really? Yes, oh my God. What was the dream? One Dreamland Dreamland. Oh, Groom Lake. Pittman station Paradise, Ranch, st. Elsewhere Dreamland, okay. Dreamland sounds like sleep with dream with the fishes kind of Dreamland. Yeah, exactly. So I know we've talked about Area 51. It's kind of come up in our episodes in some form or fashion, especially when you start talking about government conspiracies, aliens but We're gonna. We're gonna dive into it more today, and it's going to be less about Area 51, specifically, although we do talk about it but more about what's inside of it and specifically around j-rod and element 115.

3:33 Okay, I'm on the edge of my seat. All right, so if for those of you who live under a rock Area, 51 is a remote base located in the desert. Nevada from a distance. It looks like any other Air Base in the world, it is however, one of the most heavily guarded basis in the world. In fact, they still have kill on sight orders for this particular trespassers. Really, I didn't know the space. Yeah. And this base has been confirmed by Many people used to investigate alien technology and spacecraft that have been recovered through various incidents. Like, the Roswell incident of 47.

4:15 We got the egg shaped craft received from Fort Polk, Louisiana and 53. We've got the Hopkinsville attack of aliens and Kentucky and 55 in which the pilot claimed he actually flew alien bodies to Maxwell Air Force Base, and that was actually where the term Little Green Men. I'm fine from was that of an incident? Oh, no, trivia fun fact. People have also reported the build and testing programs of experimental aircraft, which use alien propulsion Technologies, which we're going to actually get into because that is where Element 115 comes into play. I have my notebook out now. The fact that the u.s.

4:59 government wouldn't even acknowledge the existence of this base until 2013, right? Says volumes? Yeah I volumes. Yeah I mean who wasn't wasn't it like Obama or whatever who is like? Yeah I remember it was a like a story like on fucking Yahoo news or something that's like oh guess what area? 51's real guys you're like no fucking die. Yeah. Like like is it is it a April Fool's Day? Like what the fuck Obama. Yeah, we know, we we all know Clay those of us who are in the fucking now we know we know yeah but I think that pressure was only due to it. All of this, increased scrutiny and speculation around. All of the increased reports and of all these aircrafts that were coming in and extraterrestrials being kept there. I mean some more and more people were talking about it and saying, corroborating other people's stories so it just I mean, that that pressure they finally had just go. Look, we kind of stop playing stupid. Yeah, yeah, people actually know there's some shit going on. So yeah.

6:17 So many attribute. The government's finally admitting the base existence was significant to be fueled by a startling interview in 1989 by a man. With the name of Bob, Lazar! Oh my God. I was just waiting for you. To talk about my boy, Bob Lazar. I was just waiting. I fucking loved Bob. Lazar. He is the fucking truth teller, isn't he? So when you listen to him? Yeah, listen to the reporters that have interviewed him. It is you you really are like, why am I questioning this? I mean, yes, I'm stuff. He's I mean if we're gonna oh God, there's just so much, but but let me give you a quick example. Please do, okay.

7:05 So one example was in this interview, he talks about this thing where he puts his hand on it and there's these pins and he's having a hard time, describing what it is. But basically, it was like X-ray. He thought it was what it did, was it x-rayed? Your bones and every bone was unique and that's how they were getting measurements olivierb. Oh yes. Yeah. And so, they would put it on this hand on this thing and it had these you're seeing on video. These spikes that we kind of come up through your fingers to position, your fingers, just exactly right and everyone told him he was a loony bin right person like you coo. Coo boo? Boo that sounds yeah, you could who permission it?

7:46 Like it like it sounds like it's coming. Hang out of some kind of like Poli sci fi, you know, 1950s fucking alien green. Men bullshit, that doesn't exist. They interviewed him several years ago. Another reporter bound pictures of that thing and said, Bob, is this what you were talking about? He said, oh my God. I never thought I would see this again. That is exactly it where he was putting his own. He was putting his hand on the thing. They actually had It was real. So was it like a biometric? Yeah. Screams the beginning of Biometrics. And that was like, one the 80s. Yes. The 1980s.

8:26 He's saying this was like before. Do not be late, 70s. Oh, wait, 70. Yeah, early, seventies early eighties. It was in that time frame. Okay. So remember like Men In Black where? Well Smith puts his hand on that like Globe thing and it like burns his fingerprints off or whatever. Yeah. And I remember when I saw that I was like, there's no way we could do anything like that and now it's like, I have a fucking smart, watch on right now, you know, like like and Roy's will like, read your oxygen level and my blood pressure and your beep your EKG. Yes it'll read. Yeah, yeah it'll read everything. It'll read like how well you're sleeping. Yeah your oxygen saturation levels like please what the fuck and Bob was ours.

9:09 Like it was already he's like this is what? At least two people like. Yeah. Right fucking window and then they show him. Thing, and he's like, that's it. How do you bitches? I wasn't lying. How did they get the picture? I don't recall, I don't recall how this reporter found the pictures, he was a good reporter. Okay so wait can we like rewind it? Yes, who the fuck is Bob? Lazar if you have, you don't know, you don't know. Yeah, because so I should have written a better bio on Bob, but Bob was a scientist who worked in Area 51 and Specifically, he worked in an area called S4, okay? Now, as for is located about 15 miles, Southwest of what we know of as Area, 51, it's all underground as five levels all underground underground, huh?

10:05 But it's like, it's good ways away from what we would say Area. 51. There's the runway, there's the plan, right? There's the hangar. Yeah, so it's about 15 miles away from there, but call it ssj4. And he worked in, there's a scientist, he'd worked in there, was other scientists and they had come up with some roadblocks. They've hit some roadblocks on some things, and they were trying to find some smart people to help, right? Little did Bob know what he was getting himself into. Yeah, because he was like, well, known, like he would be fucking around with, like designed like he, he made his own like bicycle that like was propelled by Rocket Fuel and said like, yeah, Like this guy was like, like a mad genius like a mad scientist.

10:51 He wasn't necessarily like, oh hey, I'm like way learned from like, I'm like a ivy league, bro, he's not like that. He was like a Tesla. Like I'm incredibly intelligent. Think outside the box. Just we thought differently than most people like allowed him to come up with things so they scouted him the Scout. Hey yep. Brighton ma'am. So among many of his shocking claims, he reports, this he this is where we learn about S4 in this interview. He says, he specifically calls out cause that S for S for. Okay, he was working, because if you don't know, if you heard this interview seen this in, it's very long and it's very detailed and he doesn't stumble over his words, know anything, any time I've ever articulate, incredibly articulate and like honestly, like, okay, I'm Love Bob, Lazar, You know, love him. I'll say that.

11:47 But fuck, can he be boring when a hawk about your drawing out about like, dude, give me a little bit of fucking excitement in this information only like but typical answers typical scientists. Yes, just very analytical totally. Yeah, that's exactly it. Now, he this S4 has been corroborated by many people so it's not just Bob talking about S4 Mini meet many people have talked to talked about S4. He's very specific around the five levels in this place and they contain the very most top-secret things ever held. They are there.

12:29 There were talking ETS live and dead were talking about spaceships were talking about Element 115, which we're going to talk about. About. That's where all the good shit is. This is in Nevada? Yes. Okay. I want to go, who don't well, but what are they gonna do about wipe your fucking mind? Is it still here in existence still there? I'm sure. Okay, I'm sure, yeah. Hey, if you work at as for hit us up, call us up on our website, the bizarre have to come. So he said he worked at us for and he was directly involved in the reverse engineering. Of the spacecraft that I previously mentioned that was taken there.

13:12 Oh yeah, it was kind of his Jam, right? Because he could make Chicago, right? He got like rocket fuel on a fucking bicycle and like, yeah, and this is the worst. They go to him, right? Reverse Engineers. Tell us how this what this is. How this works. Break it and she'll figure it out. Yeah, wow, okay. So these spaceship substantially use some sort of propulsion system. That harness, the power of gravity. This is how they worked, and they did it. But somehow by manipulating gravity waves and the key to this success was somehow directly related to the material that the spacecraft themselves were constructed of. So it's not like we know of today where you have some propulsion engine that you might mix Fuel and you exhaust and you create propulsion.

14:04 This has some direct translation with material that the ship was made out of. Of that somehow affected gravity. So it was directly and it was directly working with gravity. Yeah. This material somehow working light with a grat, it's gonna, how do you guys are gonna start to make sense. Okay? Okay, okay. Okay. Like, this is all over my head. Yeah, no. But you're gonna kind of go. Oh, and just a minute even though I'm told science dumbass, but when I start telling you about this, it's gonna kind of Click. Thank God, I have a cocktail. Everything starts to make sense. Yeah, Cheers. Cheers. Cheers, peeps. We're drinking a Mandarin. No yeah man Meyers lemon drop.

14:52 Oh my God, it's delicious. Myers limiters haven't made a time like Warren, G and Lemony. Oh, so good. Wow, okay, so, Bob stated that the fuel for these craft was at some point in time, an Undiscovered element, known simply as Element 115. Now, keep in mind at the time of this interview, this is 1989, the periodic table of elements was a complete list. I mean, these were the elements known to man, right elements, a table. Of elements that these were our elements, the periodic table. That's what we grew up with. Right, right. Argon Boron. All that dumb bull.

15:32 Show you how to fucking memorize when you're a junior in high school. Actually. Uh-huh. Did not go to 115. No, he described in detail about one of these alien craft was like inside. Emphasizing that the chair that the pilot would sit in. Yeah, was way too small for an adult human. It was like a child's chair. So yeah, it's about that size. And if you look at descriptions of the, a Ely, the little green, man. They're little. Jimmy little bodies. There's like toddler. Yeah.

16:13 They're like, they're like, maybe like three year olds with like massive fucking head. Exactly. Yeah, okay. Alright, that lines little lines. Yeah. Now, what I would consider the most absolute incredible claim was that aliens have been involved in human infants? Fares for over 10,000 years, and is directly related to how he knew about Element 115. Now, in the interview, Bob has his identity concealed, but he later comes forward and kind of spoke. Clearly, that's how we know it's Bob, Lazar, but in this particular interview, he was all like concealed, right? Nobody was supposed to know he was. And when he asked why he broke his anonymity, he stated it wasn't an effort to protect himself from the government, who would no longer be able.

17:03 To silence him without encouraging unwanted interest in the goings on in Area, 51. So it was about self prevent self-preservation. Oh, so that's like that's like you. Okay. Hide in plain sight. Yep, right. Yep. If they know by the way if I get murdered you guys. Fucking no collaboration was The Whistleblower. Yep. So he was he was fearing for his life because they started finding out that he was like divulging. Yes. Government secrets. Yes. Okay, one that's super fucked up. Hmm, to thank you, Bob, for doing the fucking Lord's work and telling them the fucking people that hey, we're not alone, right?

17:48 By the way. Oh, yeah, aliens have been interacting. Aliens are fucking real and they've been interacting. 10,000 10,000. Okay, that is a question. How the fuck does he know that? Well, because he's just reverse engineering right now because we're going to talk about j-roc. Okay? Sorry, and keep. And I'm also going to tell you there's a difference between ET and Aliens. It's going to be very important in this discussion. Okay but we'll we'll talk. We'll get it in just a second. Okay? So Bob has taken all kinds of lie detector test to support his claims. They see no deception. It is lie, detectors important. People will see when you Impasse well no not really but okay that aside whatever. That's just the more you've read and learn about Bob and Pete. You really start, there's really validity and what he's talking about.

18:37 If you cannot see past the craziness that we don't understand. There's some there's some validity here. I think that you're red, you're right about that, it seems really crazy. Yeah, and so people say oh crazy, this makes no fucking sense, right? You're wrong. Easy way to just go, you're making it up this. Dude's been saying the same shit for Three years. Identically hasn't changed, nothing. Nothing's changed. And again I go back to that hand thing. And twenty thirty years later, he goes. That's the thing I told you about 30 years ago, him, they shown on the picture. He had been talking about it and he's like, like look, like it's almost like I would think I'd be going fucking crazy, huh? Yes, right. Exactly. Nobody's believing me. Then he finally sees his like there's Vindication but like, at what fucking point like, yep.

19:20 Like 30 years later? Cool. Now, you know that I was telling the truth, Why didn't? You fucking believe me sad, right? Super sad. So I mention, he's not the only person to have made these apparent claims about 51 in 1996 on Sky TV. They produced a document document, a document, the docket documentary comentary, thank you. I can't say that word about Area 51 and it was entitled Dreamland and dream with the fish dream of the fishes. So that production is 71 year old man claimed to be a former mechanical engineer at Area. 51.

20:01 Who not only With this alien technology, but interacted directly with someone known only as j-rod. His like his I'm so freaked out. His job was to build a simulator for the US Pilots to train and fly a disc-shaped craft under j-rod supervision. So he has to build it and j-rod helping, is helping revising. This build well j-rod came from a ship. Oh my God. He was actually, we're going to talk about the second.

20:43 He was actually in one of the crashes with three, two or three that I was, this is where it was unclear, two or three other ETS. Okay? And he survived he was the Survivor, the sole survivors a Survivor, okay? So j-rod is also the person that told bab about Element 115. Weight j-rod knows both Bob and Cars Are Gonna Roll. We're both working. And in S4 does what 71 year old named? Well, let's we'll just call him 71 year old. Yeah. Welcome, 71 years so he and Bob know each other they do.

21:24 What they were working in the area. Same area, I okay. Okay, okay, so, okay, so who is j-rod? Who fucking is j-rod? Who the hell is j-rod? And what kind of name is j-rod? Wait, like like, what isn't it? Oh, a rod. Yeah, not a rod Iraq. He's a rods cousin. Yeah, exactly. Hey Rod. All right now. So now all these claims made by Lazar Are clearly, everyone's tagging them as absurd as no one has ever heard of had any knowledge of or seen anything in our table around element 5115. Like stop making shut up Bob, right? So we had discovered like I said us, brilliant humans who know everything have discovered all the possible element. We know everything already been found out so God shut up Bob. So they were giving Bob the wow crazy you're crazy girl. So in 2003 Bob got some Vindication and increased credibility when this elusive element was actually synthesized by Russian scientists.

22:56 They actually created element 115, What? And they dubbed them as Muscovy mm based on the city where a Moscow? Yeah, exactly. And then 12 years after that achievement the discovery. The discovery of element 115 was finally confirmed after numerous tests which verified its existence and temporarily. They named it on a medium which is a based on some Latin or Greek word for the atomic number 115. And Pentium, we're not going to call it Element 115 because Bob already came out and like he kind of ruined our fucking.

23:36 So it's some party. Yeah it's something totally different. Like the same thing in Latin. So now but the scientists version of 115. Just differs drastically from what Bob described since according to the reports as the element decays in less than a second. And therefore, Can't be used for anything. I mean, if an element decays in less than a second. How can you fucking Flagship with it? Right. Right. So clearly it's different. Yeah, but we're going to go into a little science now, so we can kind of prepare ourselves to understand Element 115, a little bit, get your thinking caps on. Okay, so in case you forgot your high school chemistry, there's a quick Refresher.

24:22 An element's. Atomic number is the number of protons it contains in its nucleus. So, the heaviest element in nature. In aren't in our nature is uranium, which has 92 protons element 92, but heavier Elements, which have more protons in their nuclei. This, those can be created through nuclear fusion fusion. Yes. Okay. Now, the way you make new elements, is by shooting a beam of an element at another element and then you making them directly Collide. Yes, all right. Now in this case, the researchers, Used what they call America americium, which is an unstable radioactive element, and they fired calcium atoms, which are much, much lighter and they fired that at this americium. I think it's americium for weeks months. They do doing this forever and most of the calcium atoms just bounced off.

25:28 But every now and then and Adam would hit it. Just right. So it would Collide directly and so on. Bouncing off, it literally Collide, and it stuck to this element. And when that happened, you got this short-lived atom with more protons in its nucleus which is the center of this new element 115. Okay. So how did they know it created the new element if it only existed for less than a second? So they look at what they call Decay products, okay? And they look for these telltale signs of 115 when it disintegrates by what they Call Alpha Particle emissions. Now I don't expect anybody remember, all of this, but this is just to kind of help you understand how they're getting their okay.

26:13 Alright. And then when they see enough of those signals, they can say with high probability that they've formed this new element. Now it took years for researchers to work out these details about what they're now calling unobtanium, and it wasn't until 2018, that a Berkeley lab scientists figured out that the elements mass or the atomic weight, which is the total number of protons and neutrons and Adam was 288. Now. 288. That is way heavy. Yeah. It's super give the heaviest one we had is 92. Yeah. And this is 288 what I mean? That's off the charts. Totally. now, to NAB that number, They repeated this process that the first discoveries used to pin down the element so in doing so they managed to produce roughly one atom of unobtainium a day and that Adam was captured in an instrument, they call Fiona and if anyone cares it's called for the identification of nuclei De Palma stands for him. It makes no sense to ask works for them, so which to the untrained eye nor microscopic looks like a little Aah, metal bank, vault is what they call.

27:32 Now, it also shares a commonality to plutonium which is being tested as a propulsion element like Rocket Fuel, okay? So now what kind of a little bit more understand about 115 and knowing that we produce it it lasts less than a second. Yes and that its weight couldn't really It's be sustained. It's so unbelievably heavy. I think we can safely say Element 115 of which they have samples of. Yeah, could not possibly have been created on Earth. No, no, not not using any of the technology that we know, right.

28:14 Because we can't sustain it or, or hold on to it for a long enough. That's right. Using the, you using like, what you're saying, like, the means that we're trying to create this out these elements. That's right. It's not. Sustainable and can there's no way. So According to Bob, these crafts is craft, were made out of one single piece. There was no joints. There was no whale so it's almost as if it wouldn't occur to terial. Like one piece of metal, it occurred Nats, imagine occurring naturally in the world. Imagine having this huge Boulder and you carve out of it, you carve a shape out of this Boulder.

28:58 Uh-huh. That and that's your ship. Just happens to be that. This material is element 115 almost like shaving cream or something. So it says, if this material occurs naturally on whatever Planet, this is from It's it's sustainable there. Maybe they have unbelievably heavy gravity, maybe they have a lively bubbly? No, grab, I mean, I don't, I'm not scientist, I can't tell you what it would be, but yeah, the conditions are right for this particular element, right? And again, the fact that there is no welding points in these ships, like a 09. Now, I suppose, you could probably say a lot of times they weld metal here on Earth and you can you can't see a joint, but I think when you ask for x-ray it and stuff. I think you can see those.

29:48 You can tell that they've been joined. They did all of that. There was no joint read it. They did all the things that they typically do like like, okay, you're looking like King Tut, okay. King Tut is a mummy. How many, you know they found out that he had a club foot and all this other stuff just by putting it through an MRI machine so I'm assuming that's what they did with this to try to find out like okay where's the joints? Like how did they? Weld it together. Maybe it's like a really fine weld. Maybe it's like, I don't know if I can sewn or something and it's like really done well, yeah, but there's nothing. So I mean is that is that Bob's?

30:31 Guess that what it's something that that is more, like, carved from Stone? He had to That was his deduction based upon all he knows about everything we just talked about, right, right? And so, that's how he did deuced that it it must have been a single piece, unless there's some technology which is unaware of right course, but that was his deduction. Bob stated, that the fuel rods were cut out of shapes of triangular discs about the size of a silver dollar. So and I If you look on the internet and you search for element 115, you'll see people that have tried to simulate what they think it would look like, you know, based on descriptions. And it looks like a little triangular silver dollar. What that's crazy.

31:23 Yeah. It's very safe to handle. That was as it was the lowest level of alpha particle he had ever measured in anything. And he said there was some sort of a coating over it, that was a copper color, huh? So then the question becomes will. So how did Bob know I mean, what made him call it? Element 115. Yeah, like how did he like how did this I mean, how he did already have a vocabulary? Because he wasn't creating it right point in time when no one because this wasn't until two thousand that we were able to actually do this. It actually do it.

32:09 Yeah, but, but it seems to me like they already had a vocabulary around it. Because, come on. He, fucking talk to j-rod. That's exactly how he that had about one element 115 was j-rod. Do you ride? It was telling him all about this stuff. Tough. What the fuck? No, have you heard of j-rod before? Okay, okay. So I know a couple of things about j-rod that. I knew that they had him that he was very sick right while he was here. So he was in that, he I don't know what the fuck he was, they them, whatever, you know, the ET JE rod was very sick and didn't come out of the The crash unscathed.

32:58 So it's so they were really hurt and, and the The way like I don't know what it is. Some kind of whatever our environment is he. We can't really feed him properly or sustain his his body for a long period of time. Exactly. So there, did there were there, did they had to make some common accommodations to sustain him and he they kept him in captivity for like 50 years? Shut up. I only thought it was a couple of years. No, no, what? Yes, good luck. Shut up. Uh-huh. Oh my God, right.

33:38 We've had an alien living here for 50 fucking years. Yeah. No wonder. Why? Bob knows all this shit from fucking right? Good old j-rod well and he's not the only one, right? Because we'd heard about the mr. 71 year old. So, have you ever heard of a guy named dr. Dan burisch? No. I haven't. So he's a microbiologist and He defines. He has some involvement which I'm still trying to piece together. How he's involved in all of this, but I think he has a real kind of somehow there's some real connection between him and Bob.

34:24 Okay? And this dr. Dan burisch. He defines an e.t. As a real person, a person from the future with a genome similar to humans is what an ETA person from the future, right? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, wait. I have a question because what you just said, makes, Thanks, you really fucking freaked out, dude. Okay, okay. Okay. So, they have the same genome as we do, same genome. Well, the genome is similar to humans and humans from the future than Evolution happening. Exactly.

35:04 Yes. So that's what we're supposed to be. Yes, that's what we're going to be. Yes, no, that's what we're going to have evolved to. No, no, dude. I can't, I can't. You're not So freaked out about this. Well, it's gonna okay, okay. Yeah, you can be freaked out. I am so scared, don't be scared. So wait a second, ET is basically future humans in a nutshell. Yeah, and Aliens being there from a completely different solar system. Was Zero genome relation to the human race. Okay, that's what he's defines. The difference between et's and Aliens. So ETS are still from our same solar system, Jin. And, yeah, same Gino or similar genomes, where, as an alien would be like 0, it would be like, gone, Star Trek, like you have some, like they, yes, you know, the blob, the floats down the hall and talk.

35:58 Yeah. Hey, Bob the floating block? Yeah. He would be an alien, okay. Yeah. Okay. so, In. We're not going to be able to sleep tonight, am I? Yes, you are. So in Kingman Arizona. And 53. There was a crash. Yeah, three beings. Two were taken to Los Alamos. One was taken to S4. Why would they, why would they split them up? Good question. Who knows? Because they're fucking ass, cause they're idiots and because the government does not talk to each other. So idiocy is probably like well, we got one. I feel like well I want one too. It's like fucking talk to each other.

36:41 Stop being little bitches. Right exact. Sorry. Go ahead, you deserve that Outburst at j-rod was the one taken to us? S4. Now. J ride is an alien. I'm sorry, excuse me. An easy. Mmm future us. He is a humanoid. Now according to j-rod he is from almost fifty three thousand years in the future fifty-three thousand years in the future. So imagine Evolution over 53,000 years could be pretty significant. Yes absolutely and he looks and that's and looks different again through physical Evolution. Does he look like a little green? Man?

37:26 Is no he looks like the grey man. It looks like the gray, you know, the kind of triangular shaped I with the big. Oh, my God. Yeah, big black bug eyes. Oh my God. Okay, mmm, that's our so, so, this guy named Seer, Arnold Gardner, who has had A number of interviews and writings count was papers on j-rod and he has done extensive interviews with dr. Burch and so in short, on j-rod is an e.t. who was intentionally sent to Earth? A sort of what they say, is some sort of sacrificial lamb in order to work in conjunction with the humans to develop cures to a loom. Ailments, in both races.

38:16 Now, he says that j-rod actually had neuropathy disease himself, which is one of the reasons he was selected on this particular Mission. He was, ultimately The Prisoner that they took to S4 or dude, and was kept separate from not only his own beings because they took him, you know, to the, to the other base. But he had very limited number of humans that he was to work with. He also had to breathe five percent more hydrogen. Then we have in our atmosphere so he they had to put him in a room that had 5% more hydrogen in order for him to breathe.

38:56 Wow, properly. Okay. So / mr. Garner j-rod was 15 light years from planet Earth. That's where his civilization. Lived. Okay, 15 light years from not on Earth, not on Earth, thank God. Okay, that's so his real name was, is hard to hear. Understand this interview is almost like Kal-El. And I'm like, Kal-El, it's like hello Superman. Oh, yeah, yeah. But it was something similar to that and that makes me wonder. When the whoever wrote Superman? I wonder if that's how they got his name. Oh my gosh.

39:37 What if Gerald's? Like, hey, by the way, here's like my kryptonite. I'm just wearing anything Ryder knew about this somehow and you never know. Well, I mean, okay, so here's the question, he was specifically sent on on to planet Earth. Yes, to help with whatever kind of disease medical. Yeah, medical stuff. How long had he been here, right? Like how many He crashed. We had crashed straight away. Yes. They caught him right after he crashed. Okay, so he hadn't been here before that. He was just getting my knowledge. Okay. And what kind of medical stuff was he supposed to be helping? Well so he had that ailment that neuropathy. Yeah.

40:19 And so I didn't hear in this interview specifically what he was supposed to do on, but it was just to kind of help in some sort of a research for medical ailments in general. That's what I know. No. Huh. So in 1953 the military unit are the military has a unit and they call this military unit Sigma unit. Now the purpose of this Sigma unit is there they're nothing but linguists and psychologists. Okay Sigma unit and so their responsibility is to communicate with aliens questions like Lieutenant Uhura.

41:02 Yeah. Yeah. She's one's kind of translator. Tween everybody. And she understands language. Well, enough to kind of help figure what they're saying. Yeah, that's the point of Sigma unit. And so the sigma and it asks at the time, they didn't want him saying j-rod. We didn't know who he was at the time, they're asking him, where is he from? And they say that he points to the 10th letter on the keyboard, which was a.j., and this Egyptian symbol, that looks like a bar or a rod which actually represents the number five. And so through all this translation and such, they determine his home base. Is that a rick UI, which is 15 light years from Earth?

41:42 They figured that they figured out, that's where he's he's from. And so hence, his name becomes j-rod. Hmm. That makes sense. Now, this location, by the way, it's corroborated in another event and I don't know if you've heard of the Betty and Barney Hill incident. Have you heard of that if fuck? Yeah, I have. If you're listening right now, you definitely have to and if you haven't we will be talking about it. It's on the list when they put her under hypnosis I don't know exactly how it worked but she directed them through. I think it's through model or something. To Zetas, Ricky looked Seda Rick particular.

42:24 Particularly she said, that's where the event. This is where it was sticking. Yeah. Taken what Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was a. So this is not the first fucking time that, right. Exactly. When do they what year, did they catch? Not catch. Well, I guess kind of j-rod for j-rod. Poor boy, I know in 1950. Wait, I said it before. Yeah, I'm Kingman. Where's my notes? Yeah, for yes, in Kingman 50. Damn it. I hate when I do doesn't matter if you 353. Okay. Okay, gotcha.

43:06 All right. Oh my God. He just started in 2013 or 20 2003? Uh, yeah, I think so. Oh, okay. So that connection. So that's one of the things. So it's that kind of stuff where you're like, bullshit no one's making this shit up. No, no, it's too many like, there's too many connections. Yes, too many people saying the same thing repeatedly. Yes. And it's the I guess we said it's easy to go bullshit right now. So easy. So easy to say bullshit. But you just gotta keep an open mind like we say in the top of the show, every single episode because things there are patterns.

43:49 Yeah, you can't like you can say like okay that's just like a random weather pattern or whatever like that's fine. But like if people are saying the same stuff and they've been saying it for years and years like maybe there is something to it, right? Right? Like maybe this area is a place where there is fucking life, you know, that we know of yes. And, you know, just the fact that like, you know, Betty and Barney Hill, Betty Hill had come out. And, you know, had talked about it under hypnosis. And then we have a fucking straight up alien in our fucking Mists that says, oh, yeah, this is exactly where I'm from, huh, through like through this, by the way, out. So that was one thing I was going. To ask about like so you said that this translation like these folks were able to like establish communication with him?

44:42 Yeah. Did they learn his language? Or I never got I never really got any answers to that that I felt plot or not plausible that I felt comfortable shadowing. Yeah for sure. Rise. What happened, right? But they were able to communicate. You'll like what I gather is that Like with anything. If you go lived in Japan for 10 years, you're going to learn how to speak Japanese. I sure. Yeah. So I feel like it's the same concept. Yeah. I think I feel like there was a spoken language, right? So crazy. Here's a question I have for you in rely quite for conspiracy but if we had Element 115 in its stable form, We know that it is a power source. It could be infinite, I don't don't know, right? I don't know if it ever runs out. Yeah.

45:47 That would change the fucking world. Yeah. Yeah. Well, change the world. Yeah. I mean, energy right now is we currently have access to it, right? Not like like we can create it but like if these aliens had it? Yeah. We have to have the ship, right? Yeah. I don't know if you could. Yeah, I don't know what, I don't know, but isn't she is the weak Link in in our world because technology grows and grows and grows. Oh yeah, Pace that we can't even keep up with. And energy is always the thing that's tries to keep up.

46:28 Yes, right? Yeah, it's true. So if you hand, yeah, that somehow can manipulate gravity makeshift fly without fuel, right? I would change the world. It would totally change the world. It would change the world. Yes. But there are a lot of people who would lose out on that change. So the question becomes, Do we have it? If you're asking me, the conspiracy theorist, we says fuck? Yeah.

47:10 Of course we do. My Excel. Bill just fucking went out up by double, right? Yeah. My, our power and Colorado is Axl. You're gonna shit yourself. Mine was 60. Ours is 400. Yeah, that is bullshit. Who can live like that during like, oh, people are just wearing more than one layer inside their house. Like we're in 2023 right now. And it's like, well, fuck like we're wearing more than one layer of clothing because these, you know, base, these monopolies utility monopolies can kind of just say whatever the fuck numbers they want to say and charge us.

47:51 And what would happen. If went fit element 115, Teen or some Fusion Energy control, that we can control create some infinite power. Hmm. Then what they do, they BF they'd be screwed. Yeah, they'd be scrutinized say, oh well, we need to redo our infrastructure, the whole infrastructure. It's like, no, we fucking don't. You're just greedy motherfuckers and there's no reason for you to have this much money. No, it's I mean, if you're asking me specifically, no, it would not surprise me if we do have access to cleaner cheaper. Right ways of special. We've been helped, sorry, especially if the government has had interaction with people that have or ETS that have this knowledge, right?

48:37 I mean, you can't tell me one. How much has technology? Just fucking jumped God. I know since the 1950s. Let's just talk about the 1950s. You remember, how like you'd see pictures of calculators like basic computer? Seems they were rooms. They were rooms of like of of what are those called? Like, vacuum fucking. Yeah. The vacuum tubes and check the tapes and the like so huge. Now. What? Like, I have a, I have a, we have phones. Yeah. That, that are huge computer. I have a fucking watch. Does the same thing like you have a woman? Yeah, that little thing on your wrist. Yeah, I can talk to it. I can follow me like on my hikes and knows exactly how how high I go.

49:23 I mean Big Brother. Whatever. Like yeah I mean the fact that within you know what 70 years we've moved so quickly. Like as far as our technology is gone I don't call me crazy, I don't fucking care but like I don't think that is a coincidence. We've had extraterrestrial. Extraterrestrial thank you Dan you're right damn bursch had extraterrestrials who have Said, hey, here's here's how we. But it's like the thing that's infuriating to me is rather than helping Humanity, which right?

50:05 Like the Star Trek, fucking Alum. I am, I want to see that we are helping Humanity move forward. I that doesn't that doesn't create profits. It doesn't create profits. It doesn't create a you know good marketing strategy or dumb people, right? Like so You know, how can you control people by having a stupid and, you know, pretty vegetative population like people who are just so set in their own ways. You don't give them the ability to not work anymore and like pursue knowledge or like you do not have to pay a shitload for fucking energy that there's no reason for us to pay that fucking much, right? Like the conspiracy is What's the bigger conspiracy? But there was a fucking alien who came on to this, you know, Earth and told us like all this technology or that the government is fucking holding all of that technology back to keep us in the fucking stone age, right? I mean, right, the fact that we're getting fucked by the man like not cool.

51:15 We didn't ask it was not consensual, okay, did not? We did not consent in that, you know, No, not okay, right? I I think that it's really interesting that I totally believe in short. It was not short answer, but I believe we do have access to fucking Element 115. There's no reason for us for the government or for anyone to to actually make it available worldwide, you know, what would make it available. A fucking ET or not UT and alien. Race comes over and tries taking over a fucking plan. Uh-huh.

52:02 That's the only way things that actually changed. Totally. Mmm course, it only only by threat. So, did you have you? Did you hear what happened in December? So, you know, that we had of 2022. Uh-huh. 20:22. So, you know the atomic bomb is Fusion but it's uncontrolled. Yes, they actually control. Hold it. Yes. Milliseconds. But they did. Yes, and created more energy that they imply that they input. Yes. So more energy was created than that than that than what they used which is has never been the case, right? And only takes massive amounts of energy, this was the first time they got more out, they had more out, which is why, you know, nuclear power isn't necessarily a thing, right? And things aside from Springfield, right? So this Fusion Ian is exciting.

52:55 Super fucking exciting. Do you the machine that makes it is the size of a stadium, right. Wait, it, wasn't it done? It's like, like all of this fucking output. It's insane. God. And I only mentioned that because I don't know why I mention it because because perhaps, it's tied, yeah, maybe in some way, these things have contributed to getting there or I don't know, I don't know, but it's time to fucking pull back the curtain, I totally agree. Well, I mean, technically, like we are starting, you know, I'm not on the side of anyone, I'm on the side of humanity. But you know, the government is saying, hey look we know there's something we can't explain out there. If you are have been a pilot and you've seen something fucking weird talk to us.

54:03 We want to hear the stories. We don't know what it is. Yeah, we can't. Is it little green men? We don't know. We're not saying we know, but we definitely don't know everything right? I think that's a move in the right direction. I think that oftentimes we downplay humanity and say that that humans can't take knowledge Beyond like what is being like dulled to us like little baby birds or whatever right it's I don't think that's true but I think that there's a definite control of the narrative. Clearly, bye-bye whomever's powerful to try to hold on to that.

54:48 At power or to that control because when you let the one you pull back the curtain, you don't know what's going to happen. You don't there's no. Don't you don't but you can't. You just can't move forward. You keep everything in secret like that and it's you get your shoes when it moves forward. It's a dlu control. Like you said the narrative. Yeah, they're controlling the narrative so that that's my story. There's so many questions I have my God. It just opens the doors to so much. I mean I could feel like I could talk about Jared all day long. I mean, I think that's fast, that's fascinating. Yeah, I mean being is fascinating not being as fascinating.

55:30 The fact that I know. So fucking little how little we had 50 years And I'm assuming he's communicating throughout all of those 50 years. Totally. So why don't we know more exactly where the that information is? What is that information? What, what what what what was that 50 years? Why has cancer not been cured? How do we still have diseases? Wider fucking covid. Come be. That's part of the whole thing. Seriously, she I mean fuck dude that It's so fascinating. Yeah. So yeah, this whole traveling so that yeah, this race is they they they're they're they're Time Travelers.

56:17 So there are time-traveling raise ya did I mean, who knows? Who knows? I don't know why. I don't know their in-game, I don't know, I'd like the Watchers so like their time travelers and they're trying to help, you know, existence in this universe, they say, if their time travelers than they know, They know the path of the past. So would you like to invite them to our podcast? Hmm, j-rod, in the time travelers long, as you guys only, if you have good intentions. Yes, exactly. You can totally be sitting next to us. Right here, you don't have to like to be shown.

56:57 If you don't want to, we can try to find an oxygen tent, where you're only in hydrogen, or whatever, totally make, whatever, whatever it is, there's something that I have and we could It can happen, I'll make it happen. But friends of j-rod, we're here. Totally. Yeah. If you're listening to this transmission, can we be friends of j-rod? That should be a new hashtag hashtag, friends j-rod, nice, awesome. That would be awesome. Put that on our little when you tweet about this episode. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's there, absolutely. All right, well cool, thanks for listening, and thank you for that. Like I said, we could go on for years and years and we might, you know, Might bring this back up again, if we get some definitely juice, if you guys have any juice, fucking send it to us or maybe friends of j-rod wants to join.

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