Government Official Meets E.T.

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Hello, bizarre, story fiends.
If you're listening right now,

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unknown, and all things.

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Bizarre AF, I'm Alicia your
host, for today's episode and

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like, always, we ask you to keep
an open mind, keep a skeptical

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ear, but keep on listening to
the facts.

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As we take you on our newest
Journey, government official

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meets extraterrestrials.
Oh goodness.

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Hello, hello, hi girl.
Hi, how are you doing?

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Kevin super swell on this cold
and snowy day dude.

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Seriously I actually I know.
I keep on saying that I would

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come up with like some kind of
concoction with us to drink and

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I think today, well, no, I had
definitely had help with from

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you.
We are sipping on some where did

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that happen?
So, actually, this is like,

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tequila cream.
Like all right.

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Like, casting Bailey's, but it
has like some lime in it.

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It was totally weird.
I'm like, I have to try a beard,

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but then I'm like, kept
drinking.

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I'm like, yeah, this guy's not a
little bit too easy, and it's

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tequila.
So go figure.

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I love it.
Oh God.

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So I'm happy that you liked the
little twist of a, I don't know.

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Well, we'll have to tell people
what it is.

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Put in the notes because when I
first sipped it, it was like, I

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could taste like time.
Like tape it has, it's like

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essence of time.
It was interesting.

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It's like a Savory component.
I was like, I don't know if it

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was like the mix of the coffee
with the tequila or what, that

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little flavor was, but it was
very like, yeah, kind of savory

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is interested.
It was good.

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I thought and, you know, we're
dealing with cold wet weather

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now.
So, we might as well.

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Now, you're drinking, just
straight up bourbon.

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You know, it's our traditional
Cava with current problem, what

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is it?
So yeah, I'll definitely have.

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Okay, so you know clearly were
doing pretty well right now I'm

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just enjoying our chef but I
thought today that I we would

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talk about something that, you
know, we haven't discussed yet.

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We've come across it in various
points, but I want to talk about

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different like governmental
officials who Have had who have

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had a thing or two to say about
aliens specifically today.

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I'm speaking about one person.
So, whenever we think about the

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government and Aliens, I feel
like there's always some kind of

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mystery behind it.
So like, what kind of Camp are

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you in?
Are, you can't the government

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knows about aliens is working
with them or Camp?

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They don't know.
Shit, and they are actually

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being forthright clueless.
Now my God, it's the clearly the

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first the they know they called
like, okay, totally, totally,

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yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, you think cuz I believe

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they're real and I believe that
they've I believe like the whole

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the Roswell thing.
Yes.

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Like I've for some reason I
really feel like that's real.

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You think that roswell's real
the government like there was

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some kind of alien spacecraft
that you know, for some reason

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crashed in Roswell, New Mexico
and the government was really

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slow to cover it up.
Yes.

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Okay yes yes and UFOs are what
are the common uaf?

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Uaf.
See I knew it.

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Aerial phenomenon you eps.
Yeah, yeah.

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Then they know it's real.
I think.

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So I'm kind of like in the camp
of.

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Okay.
Do I think that they know more

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than what they're saying?
Yes.

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Do I think that there that the
government is not very United at

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all.
And I'm only speaking, I guess

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with the United States
government, I'll only speak for

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that because I don't think that
they have their shit together.

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And there are a lot of oh, no,
they don't, they don't have

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their shit together and they
don't No.

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Like, it's what is it called?
Like, the right hand doesn't

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know what the left hand is.
Holy, that's totally what I

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think is going on.
And there's a lot of black

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budget stuff operations that we
just don't know about.

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Yeah, yeah.
And and which, you know, it

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makes sense, but these
government officials were like,

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yeah, I've never heard about
anything.

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Of course, they haven't heard
about anything, they don't have

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the clearance to do so and, you
know, likely, if you weren't in

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like some kind of black, I mean,
I'm sounding like a conspiracy

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theorist but Some some kind of
like black budget, you know,

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through that happens to like
there's some high officials

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that's that don't know.
Stuff that we pay for hmm, that

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happened because they don't need
to know or they're not supposed

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to know.
Oh totally and they keep that

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stuff separated and classified
out for a reason.

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I got to keep it separated.
It was about right now.

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So okay, that's good to know
because I mean I think we're

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basically on the same.
I think so.

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Yeah.
Yeah page some the man our main

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man for the story is actually
Paul Hellyer.

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He was Canada's I was going to
say Canadia what American am I

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Canada is a former Defense
Minister so I'm just going to

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try to give like the briefest of
biographies about him but fuck

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we both know that I'm kind of a
nerd and I when it comes to

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research so.
Okay once again brief so Paul

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was born August 6th 1923 and
Waterford on.

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Courier Ontario and all things
really are relatively normal

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with his upbringing.
Once he graduates high school,

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he went to California to study
Aeronautical Engineering and he

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got his pilot's license at the
same time so he's a real

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overachiever.
And you know what?

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Good for him.
We love a determined King.

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So around this time was World
War Two, which Paul thought he

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would enlist into right?
And he was To become an rcaf

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Pilots.
So the Royal Canadian Air Force

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pilot.
He already has his pilot's

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license.
Of course, you'll be able to get

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get into that.
Well, they didn't need have a

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need for anymore.
So he became a Gunner and thank

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goodness.
He survived, or we wouldn't have

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anything more to say about Paul.
So so he did his Gunner, he did

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a service.
And in 1949, he began his

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political career, he actually
was the youngest person at the

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time to be elected to the House
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And he took on a few posts, and
later on, when his party had

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control in 1963, he became the
minister of National Defense,

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which is really where our story
kind of starts.

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Okay.
Almost under, Lester bipuresan,

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and he oversaw, the unification
of the Royal Canadian Navy, the

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Canadian Army, and the Royal
Canadian Air Force.

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So he brought all those together
into a single organization,

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which is the Canadian Forces.
So once again, he had a

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relatively, you know, normal and
success, Awful career in

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politics serving in many
cabinets, and even being one of

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the longest standing members for
the queen serving on, various

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advisory boards up until his
death, ultimately in 2021.

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And this is really where things
get spicy.

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Hmm.
So in 2011 right, he's an

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advisor at this point.
The Daily Mail releases an

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article about Paul and they
quote him as saying, I believe

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in UFOs, and I've seen them and
those are pretty strong.

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Words from a dude who spent his
entire working life and the

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government.
So what took him so long to come

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out with these thoughts?
And he was working, this is

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2011.
So he's still in the rosary

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Advisory board by stuff so he's
not he's not like a working

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missile.
Yeah, I guess not not serving on

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behalf of the government
officially he's more so like on

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kind of like the board of
directors, kind of things.

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He's on advisory boards for the
queen but he's not He's not as

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he's not active, like in his
political career.

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Well.
So then I think that's the

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million dollar question.
Why?

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What's making him?
Come say this.

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Yeah, what?
What is making him say this?

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I, you know, I mean, okay, so
first of all, let me back up,

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you know what he's talking
about.

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Yes, I'll go into, oh, and to
some details of what he's

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talking about.
Oh so there are various it

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happened a long time ago before
2011?

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Yeah okay so not Really he
wasn't like speaking.

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That's the thing that kind of
gets me on.

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This is the dudes not really
talking about it while he's

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serving in a in his, in any kind
of political like job.

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He talking about it when he's
already out.

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Well some so self-preservation.
Yes, self-preservation is in.

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He couldn't say anything before
he was officially Official.

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Yes, yeah.
I mean I do agree with that and

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that's basically what he says.
Like his, you know, the Daily

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Mail, although it's kind of
known as being like a gossip

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mags are like, it's not taken
very seriously.

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Sometimes it picks up these,
these stories and they're the

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only ones who are willing to
pick it up because they deal

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also deal with.
I don't know.

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Harry Styles is a fucking gray.
Alien has a table where whatever

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like the s?
What's the fucking tabloid has

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tabloid?
It's like seen as a tabloid,

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okay?
I mean even pulling up these

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articles, which I have on the
National Enquirer, whatever.

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The hell that is that garbage?
Yes.

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But like, but you have these
magazines that pick up these

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articles are these stories and
sometimes there and then how do

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you filter it out?
Yeah.

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You can't, you can't.
I mean if you're asking me,

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honestly, I kind of think that's
a tactic.

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Uh-huh.
Because, well, a tactic on Whose

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part.
I mean on the media who's

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working with potentially with
the government, the government

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like hey look if the National
Enquirer is also saying bat boy

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is like a real thing if you
remember bat boy, you know, the

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national.
I love that kind of shit but you

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know, sometimes they come out
with like real stories that are

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legitimate and they're the only
ones who are willing to actually

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publish them.
Like New York Times isn't going

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to do it unless they have, you
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Well, thank God for the
government that they do.

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Because then It doesn't give the
same value and I for the people

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that want to bury their like,
it's the National Enquirer who.

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Yep, who cares?
Yes, they do crazy.

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Made-up shit.
Anyway, so no one's gonna

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believe this person's gonna
believe them anyway.

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Yeah, I do think it's
interesting that the first

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people who came out and like
listen to Paul were where people

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at, you know, the Daily Mail
which is like the National

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Enquirer, interesting.
I think that it is like burying

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a story or bearing a lead.
Potentially so the article, you

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know, really starts about Paul
talking about the prior

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Thanksgiving that he had which
we just passed Thanksgiving at

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this point.
So this is in 2010.

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He has, he's at Thanksgiving,
goes outside looks up at the sky

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and sees like a star moving and
he's like, that's not a star.

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It's definitely not a satellite.
It's not a plane.

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It's nothing and he's an
aeronautical engineer.

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Remember, he's worked in.
You know the government at.

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He's also a pilot.
So like this guy knows how

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aircraft moved.
Okay.

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Yeah.
He looks at it sees it moving

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and he's like it's none of these
things I've ever seen in the

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sky.
The way that it's moving, is a

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regular.
What the fuck?

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Hmm.
So that's the first story.

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He comes out with and at first
I'm like reading this.

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I was thinking fuck like, so
none of this stuff happened

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while he was like in office.
It's only going to be like wow.

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I'll he you know, is like
basically a retired dude.

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Right.
And ultimately like, he the

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article this article which I'll
have in the show notes, it's a

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weird one.
Paul also says, look the

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government's know about aliens
and I've been working on weapons

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to use against them.
They could very well bring us to

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war with the speed with an alien
species without any warning from

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any The other people.
So could the government could

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govern?
Yeah.

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And it's like, he's talking
about it.

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Like, it's one government,
right?

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He's talking to the Daily Mail,
Daily Mail, as a UK paper,

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really, he'd be should be saying
the government's like not one

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unified, you know, gotcha.
So did government knows that

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aliens exist.
Hmm.

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They have been working on
weapons to use against them,

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okay?
One, they've been working on

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weapons, do.
Use against them.

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How the fuck are you doing?
What?

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What do we have?
That's going to destroy an alien

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race or like aliens were
visiting us.

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And the only way you would know
what weapons would be effective

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is if yes I saw them, right?
You saw them, you were

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interacting with them.
You knew what their capabilities

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were what their weak spots?
Potentially were.

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Yeah, you've already had prior
communication with them.

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Ultimately, there are a lot of
claims in this article and a lot

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of a lot of things to question.
Do you think honestly that it

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would be that the government
would be capable of of all of

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these?
These World governments, you

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know, knowing about these alien
species and then also creating

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weapons, that could be used to
destroy these government or the

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aliens.
I think if we knew half of the

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shit that we didn't know, we
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Really.
I think there's things we don't

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know that would blow our minds
and so I sewed, answer your

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question I think.
Yeah, I think it's completely

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plausible.
But I mean, is it plausible?

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We can't get along at all.
Is it plausible that all of the

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world government, like the
government's in the world and

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like, different countries can
come together are together on

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this Epic on this topic.
Mmm.

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Mmm, that's kind of weird.
That's why I struggle, I

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struggle with that.
Like, I don't think, I don't

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think he would go.
Oh, I normally hate you.

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But we're gonna join forces on
Aliens.

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I just, I don't think that's, I
don't feel like that's

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plausible.
A'ight, I completely agree with

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that.
That's that's really where my

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bullshit detector kind of starts
beeping, is really like, we

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can't, we can't fucking decide
on, like making climate pledges.

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Like, let's just like stopped,
like like greenhouses green, a

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like grey aliens.
We're gonna come together.

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Guess what?
We're gonna fuck?

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Although although you know, we
do love, I mean, I don't know,

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Humanity kind of loves War,
right?

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Like we if there's something, we
can all come together.

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If there's anything, we could
agree on.

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We could agree on.
Is these at end and against Anna

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Force outside of us.
Write like a force that's coming

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and potentially trying to take
over Our world.

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Yeah, it's all let's all get
together.

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Well, the North Korea, whatever,
you know sense.

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I guess.
I guess.

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Yeah.
When you put it like that I

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guess.
Yeah, it could.

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It could potentially have maybe.
I don't know.

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I still think so hard.
Everyone, everyone who's liked

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working that capacity.
They're all fucking like

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egomaniac Stars.
I'm concerned.

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Right?
So, ultimately, you know, the

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things that he's saying like, I
don't know, he's kind of

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off-the-wall on some of them.
Let me I'll tell you another

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Other quote that he says in this
Daily Mail art guy.

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So he talks about the
Illuminati.

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Okay, we're talking about
aliens.

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I'm into that totals that
Illuminati.

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Yeah I'm into it but it's like
do we really need to have but

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whatever.
Yeah, so he's like okay the

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Illuminati are very real May
control the world, they have

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communication and access to
aliens and could help with

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climate change but they don't
want to So the Illuminati is

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talking, there is, by the way,
it exists, it's talking with

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aliens, they're in direct
communication with them.

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They're controlling the world.
They could stop climate like

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this.
Monumental the Illuminati are

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controlling the world.
Uh-huh.

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And they're and they're
communicating with the aliens in

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the aliens could solve things.
The aliens don't want to solve

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things or the Illuminati.
Don't want them to solve things.

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The Illuminati does not want
them to solve things because,

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right.
Because then there's not the

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conflict and the no he says it's
because they're in bed with big

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petroleum.
I'm sorry.

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Who's in Illuminati, not he's in
control with the with to come

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on.
Come on.

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Haven't get on.
Uh-huh.

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Okay.
Crying.

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I know.
And so so because they're in bed

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with big oil?
Yes they need.

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They don't want to fix climate
change because then that would

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mean.
Eliminating.

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Big oil and jobs and yeah,
stuff.

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Yeah.
In the same article.

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Uh-huh.
Exactly.

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You and I think the exact same
thing I'm like sitting here

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like, dude fucking Dad.
I'm down for this conversation

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that we're having about aliens.
Like this is yes.

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But then you bring in the
Illuminati and it almost kind of

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feels like when you have
articles like this, that come

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out It kind of feels like you're
really burying the lead, right?

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Yeah, let's here's like the big,
the big thing that were being

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told is government officials
saying, yeah, fucking aliens

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exist.
This is for, for real.

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Okay.
Yes, but that he throat.

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Then you throw in or whomever is
like listening, you throw in all

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of this other esoteric bullshit
that doesn't really matter and

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you start giving feeling like
you're on the crazy train,

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right, right.
It's like, I can't take someone,

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like, give me one thing at a
time, I almost.

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Now, once again, this is me
getting into conspiracy land.

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Okay, I'm in, here's my ticket
and I'm going into conspiracy

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land.
Okay, conspiracy land.

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Like Look like we have one thing
which is aliens.

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Aliens are.
You know, here Among Us

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government officials are there?
What other kind of crazy-ass

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shit?
Can we say?

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Or can we say that?
Maybe he did say, maybe he

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didn't say, but like, can we
insert into this article?

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So people questioned the
legitimacy and what who was

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making him insert these things
Yeah, who's saying insert these

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things to make him not?
Believable.

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Because this is where I get
confused.

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Because so let's say he go,
let's say, he goes to the mail

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and he goes, hey, I've got the
scoop of a lifetime for you,

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boo?
Yeah.

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And they're like, yeah, and they
do this well, whose is it the

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Daily Mail trying to get him to
get on the crazy train?

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Because they're in bed with the
government saying, we don't want

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this to be completely possible
or you seen?

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I'm saying like if he was
initiating this like you

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wouldn't think that the Daily
Mail would want him to be on the

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crazy train because they were
like, this is the scope.

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But what if they're working with
the government's right and

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trying to dissuade or like, you
know I've heard about this quite

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a bit where you have someone
who's legitimate.

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Like there's one person I really
want to talk about coming up

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which we will Bob Lazar and some
he were he was a government

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contract employee and the dude
was And there is he still alive

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but they did so much to
discredit Bob Lazar and he was

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talking about a new element that
was discovered like back in the

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80s and the government.
Like there was so much work to

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say to delete, basically the
legitimacy of who he was like

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you couldn't find people like
who were like oh yeah.

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Bob actually yeah, Bob did work
here like everyone's like no,

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this guy is fucking crazy.
He's a loon.

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Why would you ever listen to
that like in Bob's like look,

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I'm I was in in like these
government, you know, rooms.

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We're trying to reverse
engineer, you know, alien

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spacecraft, that's what he was
doing.

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He was trying to reverse
engineer it.

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He saw the alien spacecraft
could not understand how the

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fuck to make it work.
They were trying to figure out

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how to make it work and he's
like, it ran off of this like

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element 151 or whatever or one
whatever.

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It's some fucking element.
These guys seems completely

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plausible to me but it does seem
completely pause plausible but

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He started coming out with this
information.

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He was being discredited by
various journalists by like his

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house was like ransacked like
they want to coming out they

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didn't want any of this
information coming out.

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Yeah.
And they like deleted his like

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any kind of information about
like schooling that he had like

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classes he took like to
discredit to totally discredit.

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So like it is it really so far
off that we could say

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potentially, he did say some of
these things to this reporter

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And the reporter said, We're
going to add this into the

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fucking article because it
really distracts from war or

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something else.
What about the editor?

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Sorry, the owner of the
magazine, maybe, or the editor

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of the Daily Planet.
Not not the reporter may be.

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The reporter was all like, huh?
And then the editor or the

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owners are like, we're going to
add some we're going to Sham.

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You need to change this to this
or this or this could be that

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too.
I could definitely see that.

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And I think It comes to this
article at the time he was

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serving on various boards,
having to do with the

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environment and climate change
and trying to help reduce, you

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know, reduce the risks for
future Generations.

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So it would make sense that
claims like, oh, they're in bed

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with big petroleum.
They twist your words.

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Yeah, what's the word say?
You know?

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Because he could have had a
point are valid point about.

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Yeah, I mean, let's be real
people that are Are in the Big

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Oil Business.
They don't want Big Oil Business

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to go away.
No they don't be real.

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Like that's the truth with any
kind of business, right?

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Oh for sure.
So I'm sure he had an opinion

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about that and it very well
could have twisted his words

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into making him sound like a
loony bin to discredit him from

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all of the other stuff that was
really important.

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Oh yeah I mean so here's here's
the thing like He for years was

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coming out, he has books out,
you could see him talk.

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Like I said, he just died in
2021.

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So in August, which 2021 he was
pretty old.

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So, but he had he had been
talking about like the alien

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issues.
He would talk about different

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types of aliens.
Like you know.

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The greys.
Have you heard of the greys?

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Yes, this is Patsy.
I'm with you.

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I see.
I'm so with you.

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Like we're so connected because
like that's thus that like if I

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could sit With him just to talk
about that.

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I don't want to talk about all
the other crass.

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If I just think about that
because I told you before I I

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feel like Roswell is a thing.
It's a real thing.

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Hmm.
And I'm sure that's not.

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I know that's not the only thing
but if you could talk to

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somebody, I just about that.
That the aliens and we're going

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to talk about the great people
in the second week.

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I would just die.
Like that would be.

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It would be amazing Canadian.
Yeah.

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Cause then you can ask questions
and things like that.

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Yes.
So you were saying, do I know

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about the great people?
Because because he talks about

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it, he's like, oh yeah.
There are various life forms of

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like aliens.
There are the greys.

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There are the Whites, the greys
are like okay, think about Grey.

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Ins, it's the way you probably
call the time with the triangle

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and the face eyes, black eyes?
Yes.

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Yeah, yeah.
So that's the Grays though.

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The whites are like, they look
like really tall, Scandinavian

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beautiful people.
I really, yeah, he's like, oh

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yeah, the whites can actually
like walk around with us and

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they are working at military
bases like these motherfuckers

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are actually around but the
think see the thing is is like

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he's like humans.
They look like humans like

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00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:30,100
really tall the tallest White's
is what they call them.

455
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,900
So the really really tall.
Like, you know, we're talking

456
00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:38,100
like six, seven, seven feet tall
or whatever like way taller than

457
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,700
me lights for shake.
So are they?

458
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,900
They will be hidden or they
wouldn't have to be a nest.

459
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:45,500
They wouldn't necessarily have
to be heading.

460
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:48,500
Like the thing that would be a
little bit strange is that

461
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,500
they're really tall and they're
beautiful.

462
00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:57,000
They tend to be really, really
attractive but depending on who

463
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,300
you're asking and in the law
More of like aliens which in a

464
00:26:01,308 --> 00:26:02,600
future episode.
We'll talk about the different

465
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,300
types of aliens that are out
there.

466
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:05,400
That'd be fun.
Yeah.

467
00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:11,100
So the aliens the tall whites.
They look human they're like

468
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,400
they're like humans just really
really tall and beautiful

469
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,400
gorgeous like we're talking hmm
like think about like I'll go

470
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,500
and I'll go and I'll go to a
place that I this is just the

471
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:26,100
first person who popped into my
head I'm a hockey fan.

472
00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,700
Gabriel landeskog from the you
do.

473
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:33,200
Now Sports so Gabriel landeskog
from the Colorado.

474
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,800
Avalanche is like beautiful
blond hair, blue eyes like

475
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
gorgeous.
Yeah, or like, what are those?

476
00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:44,500
The Skarsgard, the one who was
in like, True Blood and stuff,

477
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:48,200
he's like beautiful.
Okay, I don't know.

478
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,900
I'm really not doing well like
big like really tall and yes, I

479
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:55,800
get it.
I get it and muscular like like

480
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,000
muscular like it like kind of
like Godly Yeah.

481
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,400
I like like like what we would
think of like a perfect human.

482
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,200
Yeah.
Only like blond and which maybe

483
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,200
maybe that's why you're like,
yeah.

484
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,100
So anyway, um, he's like, there
are various life-forms, they're

485
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:16,500
interacting with us, the whites
can fit in and they do fit in

486
00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:18,500
they just look tall and
beautiful, right?

487
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,100
Okay.
So it's not like it's not like

488
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:23,100
they like you would be staring
at them, like, oh my God.

489
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:24,600
You're fucking gorgeous, you
know.

490
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,400
Yeah, they stick out in that
sense.

491
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,300
But no, other sensor, still
humanoid.

492
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:30,300
They do not Like a gray.
Right?

493
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:31,400
Right.
That's obvious.

494
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,300
Yeah.
Not like an insectoid.

495
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,600
Hmm.
Or what was the praying mantis

496
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,000
or we were talking about?
Don't worry Gia.

497
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,500
You didn't say that.
Oh yes.

498
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:44,100
Yes.
The ones that fed on children's

499
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:44,900
gland.
Yes.

500
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:47,200
Yeah.
But I don't know what they look

501
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,800
like.
Okay, what's his name Killians

502
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,100
those another that's another one
now wasn't Bob what was his

503
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,900
name-o?
What are you two first names?

504
00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:58,000
Yeah no no.
Yeah Alex.

505
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:03,000
Alex Christopher yes yeah they
never really explained.

506
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:08,800
What those guys look like.
So the thing.

507
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,100
Okay so you know we're talking
at he keeps on talking about,

508
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,300
you know, hey look, aliens are
among us.

509
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,200
They have technology that could
help us change our warring and

510
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,500
polluting ways.
They're okay.

511
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:29,800
Okay, so in the later there's a
later article on the, The Daily

512
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,300
Mail because that's like his
Healing Daily Mail Daily Mail,

513
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:35,400
they've got like this, they're
thick as thieves.

514
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,100
Yeah, even after they reported
him and made him look like a

515
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,500
crazy person, that's the thing
that kind of gets me.

516
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,400
I'm like why would you go back
to them?

517
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,800
But this is in 2011.
So wait, let me seems like,

518
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800
maybe this like this.
The only way I can get my story

519
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,500
out.
Nobody else is listening to me.

520
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:54,200
Hmm.
So he At this point, he's 90

521
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,400
years old and this is a 1 2011.
So okay, let me let me, let me

522
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,800
back up.
This is actually not directly

523
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,000
with the daily mail.
This is a report that the Daily

524
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Mail creates about a television
show it like an interview that

525
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,200
he has with the Russian with a
Russian television station.

526
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000
So let's see.
This was in 2014.

527
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,400
So he he goes on an interview
with a Russian.

528
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,100
Television stations and the
Daily Mail reports on it doing a

529
00:29:27,108 --> 00:29:29,700
piece on that inner mess.
And that's what this is.

530
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:33,600
So, he's 90 at this point.
And what he's saying on the

531
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,900
article or in the television
shows?

532
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:40,400
Hey, look, they're actually like
80 different species of aliens.

533
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:44,200
By the way.
Okay, wait, I never mind.

534
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,500
Go ahead, go ahead.
No, go go, go.

535
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:46,700
Go, how does he know?
There's 80.

536
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,700
He's very specific like the, his
he seen 80 different aliens,

537
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:58,900
that's the thing is like, that's
the thing that kind of gets me

538
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,500
that he's talking about.
He doesn't really say it was

539
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:05,900
really kind of a weird art like
interview, anyway and the Daily

540
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:07,900
Mail speaking to the Russians.
Why?

541
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:10,400
Because he's Canadian, right?
Yeah.

542
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,500
And he's on like governmental
boards in Canada.

543
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,000
Okay?
So maybe he's trying to get the

544
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400
word out.
So, Anyone that will listen to

545
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,000
me, somehow it gets ahold of
some Russian.

546
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:26,000
Mag.
Yes.

547
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,100
They're like, yeah, we can do
your story.

548
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:36,100
He talks about 80 different
races of aliens.

549
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,100
He's kind of like it's like a an
overview of all this stuff like

550
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,600
right.
Like you have to kind of say I'm

551
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400
just going to play Devil's
Advocate on this one.

552
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:47,400
So when you're doing an
interview you know that they're

553
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,600
going to be using pieces like
little bites too, of course.

554
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:53,700
Yeah.
So they're using.

555
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,300
Little bites of conversation or
or of like a little Snippets of

556
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,500
audio but they know that he's
going to or that people are

557
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,600
going to pick up that will pick
up like stories right but I

558
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:17,300
myself yeah I did I did.
Sorry.

559
00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:21,500
Okay so again so he's he's
trying to get as much

560
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:23,700
information as seems like
potentially out.

561
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,200
How else are other people going
to?

562
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,200
Listen to it.
If you say some pretty extreme

563
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,300
shit like absurd stuff.
The question is, how much of

564
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:34,700
this absurd stuff is true?
Is it all true?

565
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,300
Is he just trying to get more
and more eyes on him?

566
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,600
I don't know.
I think that you're really kind

567
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600
of started to confuse two
issues.

568
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,700
One.
You know, he keeps on saying

569
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,400
these governments like
officials, a governmental

570
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,600
officials need to just be
straight out like all.

571
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,100
Go out and tell.
Tell the people the truth.

572
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,000
We know about aliens.
Aliens are out there.

573
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:04,000
Why can we not admit this to
them?

574
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,400
That's one issue.
Yeah, then you start confusing

575
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,100
it with all this other bullshit
and then trying to push a

576
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:13,300
narrative that you're on the
board for which kind of, I don't

577
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:15,300
know, rubs me the wrong way.
Yes.

578
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,700
But the things that he was
saying, I mean it's it honestly

579
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:22,600
does sound like a science
fiction episode rather than

580
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,400
reality.
So he says, you know, we've had

581
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,300
over, let's see here.
We've had over 80 different

582
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,300
types.
Anyone from What was?

583
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:43,400
Can everyone hear the fact is
that is a doorbell or I think

584
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,400
it's a doorbell.
Oh, he's a ghost at the aliens.

585
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:53,100
Trying to talk to us right now.
So, so he, this is where he's

586
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,100
talking about the Ada aliens.
Yes.

587
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,600
So he's talking about the a lie
ATLiens and he's like, really

588
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,800
the reason, the aliens came to
be like, came to pay a lot.

589
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,700
They've always been around, but
they're really starting to care

590
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:07,700
because of the atomic bomb.
The aliens are starting o to

591
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:10,500
care about the planet.
Because yeah, mcbomb.

592
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:12,600
Yes.
And like, are we going to ruin

593
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,900
the planet?
Okay.

594
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:16,200
All right, this is something
that continues to come up.

595
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,700
You'll hear it often like you
know, alien sightings around

596
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:25,200
nuclear weapons facilities that
seems that makes sense to me.

597
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,600
Yeah.
Totally makes sense things that

598
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,300
don't like malfunction like
where, you know sometimes around

599
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,300
nuclear facilities.
There might be some fire gunfire

600
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:39,000
or whatever and gun stopped
working things.

601
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,900
Stop worrying.
Okay now which is interesting.

602
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:44,300
Yeah, so that's something I've
definitely heard but he said

603
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,100
there's been a lot more activity
since in the last few decades,

604
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:50,300
since we invented the atomic
bomb and ultimately, they're

605
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:53,000
really concerned concerned that
we're going to use it again

606
00:33:53,000 --> 00:34:02,400
because all of us in this, you
know, Universe are Connected and

607
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,800
that can have long-lasting
effects not just in in on the

608
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,900
plant on planet Earth but on
other planets potentially.

609
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,600
So he's basically saying oh
these are all like really good

610
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,100
aliens.
They don't really want to

611
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:17,199
destroy us.
I'm like dude, I don't know

612
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,300
about that.
I think it's a little fucking

613
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,199
scary and and he just keeps on
going like on saying, they've

614
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,800
always been visiting and they're
not really impressed with who we

615
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,800
are as as people, okay, sorry, I
wouldn't.

616
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:36,000
Be impressed either, you know
like what do we really have

617
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,400
behind us?
Like, let's be honest.

618
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,199
Yeah, like what is there?
Like like if you look at the

619
00:34:40,208 --> 00:34:44,000
Grand picks the grand scheme of
things you'd be like you I mean

620
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:50,500
people are like 12 Facebook go
on to Facebook and you have like

621
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:56,199
a great like a clear view or
Twitter and that sense, you

622
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:58,600
know?
So he says, you know, it's

623
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,700
because, you know, we spend way
too much fun time.

624
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,800
Each other and too much money on
military stuff and destroying

625
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,600
things which, you know, makes
sense and we don't really take

626
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,100
care of our own people.
So he continues to go into on

627
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,900
this interview.
Like we need to save the planet.

628
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:18,500
This is something that they
want.

629
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,500
He's also on these like yes, do
we?

630
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,200
Yes, we do need to like stop
polluting.

631
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,900
We do need to like start being
more sustainable but you're also

632
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,200
serving on these boards.
Is that what your is?

633
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,800
That the reason that you're
trying?

634
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:33,600
To push this agenda.
Is it because of that or are you

635
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,000
speaking on behalf, the aliens?
Like I'm just very confused as

636
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,900
to what it, he what it is that
he's, you know, during yeah.

637
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:43,900
And like where is he pulling
this information from?

638
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:46,000
Because he's also saying like,
hey, there's a Federation of

639
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,200
planets just like Star Trek, my
God, you know, and that is that

640
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:55,800
they can't interfere with us
because that's like, I'm at home

641
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,700
or not part of the Federation of
planets.

642
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,000
Well, okay.
If you want to go through Star

643
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,800
Trek, I must Trekkie.
Yeah, so Star Trek like one of

644
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,000
the, the prime directive prime
directive.

645
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,100
The prime directive is, you
cannot interfere with other

646
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:19,100
cultures until you get until
like, the people or the world is

647
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:26,200
actually has a excuse me.
I just walked until they have

648
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600
warp capabilities.
So until they're able to leave

649
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,500
space and like travel the The
cosmos not just like, go to the

650
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:34,800
moon or whatever, you can't
connect your interact.

651
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,700
Yes.
Until people can actually leave

652
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,200
and go outside of the cosmos and
explore and interact with other

653
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,000
cultures.
That's when the unite want at

654
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,800
least in Star Trek, the United
Federation of planets would come

655
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,000
down and say, hey, welcome.
This is what exists gotcha.

656
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:52,500
Here's our protocol kind of
thing.

657
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:55,200
Okay.
So he's saying you know, that's

658
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,800
why which it sounds like a
fucking Star Trek episode.

659
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,700
It's like yeah, I could you have
pulled this out. out of a Next

660
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:05,600
Generation, although I just have
to say Sound like a crazy

661
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,500
person.
Yeah.

662
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:10,800
And say a lot of the Star Trek
stuff is so plausible dude.

663
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Like seen run worried like he
his mind he like he thought of

664
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,000
stuff that was.
So literally science fiction

665
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:25,100
that you look at today and your
likes either, we have it close

666
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:28,000
to it or plausibly could have
it.

667
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,400
Yeah, soon crazy.
It is totally crazy and I would

668
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,000
say that's Hundred percent like
good creative writers but also

669
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,800
it's the Chicken and the Egg,
right?

670
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,100
So, you know, you have like
something like a candle like

671
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:48,000
Kindles Star Trek ice and you
can look this up Star Trek, Star

672
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,400
Trek nerd was like I want to
fucking make that you see,

673
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,000
Jean-Luc Picard, like reading.
Like, you know Anthology, yeah,

674
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,900
like Anna Buck, not a real book.
He has like a little thing.

675
00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:59,800
He's like, I'm going to try to
figure out how the hell to make

676
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,900
that work and today, what do we
have?

677
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,200
Yeah, we have a little pads.
Yeah, yeah.

678
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,100
And we can read.
I mean, I have I'm sit, I have

679
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:09,800
an iPad right here.
Yeah, you can do whatever, it's

680
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,900
insane, we don't literally go
computer, show me, yes, yes, out

681
00:38:14,908 --> 00:38:16,400
of my freakin house.
That's right.

682
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,800
Was always going off before you
guys.

683
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,400
Go computer play ball blah and
it'll just start playing like

684
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,800
computer.
Shut up.

685
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,200
Yeah.
So, you know, he does is he

686
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,700
talks about the prime directive.
He talks about, you know, the

687
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,800
future and and part of me
wonders.

688
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:39,500
This is, you know, you can go on
to Paul hellyer's like website,

689
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:42,000
you can buy books that he has.
You can listen to talks that he

690
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,300
has.
My question is how much of the

691
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:50,400
experience that he's had as a,
you know, minister of defense or

692
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,200
in the government, in the
Canadian government?

693
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:55,900
How much of that experience?
Is he pulling from?

694
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,100
And how much of it is stuff that
he's heard?

695
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,700
Yeah, I don't know.
I want to believe in it and I

696
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,100
want to believe that like he's
written books.

697
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,100
Written books interviews had
multiple interviews.

698
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,600
He would go to a dump, a bunch
of like conventions, you can go

699
00:39:10,608 --> 00:39:13,200
on YouTube and just find like
him talking about these things.

700
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:23,300
You can find this Russian
interview but I and as much as I

701
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:26,600
want to believe it, I also
question, how much of this is

702
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,300
like coming to the end of your
life and looking back and

703
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:32,800
saying, what do I have like,
what kind of blueprint or what

704
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,400
kind of Legacy.
Do I have behind me?

705
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,800
How can I move forward?
And try to get things that are

706
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,700
going to help the future future
Generations?

707
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,500
Potentially, you know, if I were
really Playing devil's advocate,

708
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,200
I would say that.
Maybe that's where a lot of this

709
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,500
is coming from, is from that.
I want to believe in aliens, do

710
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:55,700
I believe?
Now, like this guy, this is

711
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:59,200
another thing.
This guy was saying it years.

712
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,900
Before we had a conference in
the, like, the In States like we

713
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:10,000
just had one a year ago or your
two ago about you APS and now

714
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200
we're telling them it'll
military officials like hey if

715
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,100
you've seen something if you've
seen something say something

716
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:20,500
right like report it will start
actually taking this seriously.

717
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,300
It's not going to end your
career.

718
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:26,500
We need to start keeping tabs
and Records on these things.

719
00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:28,200
Instead of just shutting you
guys up.

720
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,900
Something's going on, he was
coming out with stuff like this

721
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:36,400
years before, did he?
He maybe have friends and

722
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,300
Intelligence Officers.
That knew more than he did.

723
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:41,400
Yeah, I think that's probably
it.

724
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,500
And that's something that even
says, like not, every government

725
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,600
official is told about these
things, right?

726
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,500
Some people are, but some people
are not and just looking at him,

727
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,900
it would not surprise me if the
where he's pulling a lot of this

728
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:56,300
information is not from his own
experience from people that he

729
00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:59,900
knows.
Because he talks about like the

730
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,900
the tall whites and how they're
working on military bases in

731
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:05,900
Nevada.
Like Specifically, he's talking

732
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:09,000
about all these, like different,
but he this guy wasn't it can

733
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,300
possibly be.
And yeah, like like if he had

734
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:17,200
real, I'm I guess like the
validity is still questioned

735
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,400
because this guy doesn't have
any.

736
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,900
True proof?
Yeah.

737
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:26,300
Or like one, like they hardly
ever, do not well, but there are

738
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:29,100
people who are starting to come
out and say like, hey look, I'm

739
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,900
not working in this capacity
anymore.

740
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,500
Here's the proof that I have
like the guy that I was talking

741
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,300
about earlier.
Bob, Lazar Bob Lazar has proof.

742
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:41,800
Bob Lazar has a lot of shit that
that he saved information that

743
00:41:41,808 --> 00:41:44,900
he saved this guy doesn't, is
it's interesting though.

744
00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:48,100
The government official would
open up that door and start

745
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:50,400
having these conversations.
I think it's incredibly

746
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,000
important to open that door and
start the conversation instead

747
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,900
of instead of just turning
everything off and saying yeah

748
00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:04,500
this just doesn't exist.
Do I think do we think That

749
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:13,200
Paul.
Is legit. like like from an

750
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,700
alien perspective because
obviously he is legit and the

751
00:42:16,708 --> 00:42:23,600
governmental like capacity feel
like he Yeah, I certainly this

752
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,700
first time I've heard of Paul.
I sir, I certainly don't know

753
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:27,600
but because I do believe in
them.

754
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:33,200
Yes.
I'm gonna give him the benefit

755
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,200
of the doubt at this point.
Yeah, again, and this is, this

756
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,100
happens with all kinds of people
that then you start talking

757
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:46,600
about Things that make me go.
Why did you say that?

758
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Now, I think you're a crazy
person.

759
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:50,500
I know you throw in the
Illuminati.

760
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:53,600
I think that, I think that we
have covered a couple of things

761
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,900
that are huge red flags or red
herrings.

762
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:59,600
Excuse me, huge red herrings.
Hey pay attention.

763
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,700
This pay attention to this.
Don't pay attention the actual

764
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:05,400
shit then like is important,
right, right.

765
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,900
That is, that's interesting.
Yeah, that's interesting.

766
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:11,100
And I feel like it happens
often.

767
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,800
Yeah, I agree.
It's a great.

768
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:17,200
Example of it happening, huh?
So I have a question back when

769
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:25,600
you said in 2011, I think when
he comes out to the mail or

770
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,900
something of that nature, Do you
have the example when he was

771
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:33,700
talking about the, a UFOs or
whatever?

772
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:35,300
I mean do you have an you can
you give us?

773
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:39,800
Do you happen to know of any
exact examples of stories or

774
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,200
things of him talking about
literally seeing a ship or

775
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,300
seeing an alien or so he did
have he did have an example of

776
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,700
him, seeing a ship, a
specifically shipped out that

777
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:58,100
was the first thing that he came
out with was thanks.

778
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,100
Giving he went outside and he
saw a ship, was it in a

779
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,900
governmental capacity.
Knows he was at his house and he

780
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:07,500
looks outside and he saw the
whatever he thought would not a

781
00:44:07,508 --> 00:44:10,100
star, not a plane, not a
whatever, was there anything

782
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:15,200
beyond that?
They gave him, that gave a

783
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,400
specific situation where he's
like, he's like I talked to this

784
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,800
or this or I.
Yeah, or I have witnessed

785
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,000
autopsy or I worked on this
plane or this ship or that mean

786
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:33,600
Are you aware of any?
Thing like that or is it just

787
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,700
him talking?
He said he's never met an alien.

788
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:40,400
And this in another article by
The Daily Mail, he said or

789
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:47,400
excuse me talking about This was
the Russian interview that the

790
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,200
daily mail's covering and he
says look, I've never actually

791
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,300
met an alien myself, but I've
seen them.

792
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,300
I've never met a tall white.
I've never shook hands with

793
00:44:58,300 --> 00:45:04,700
them, but I saw them outside of
my cabin, mmm, which is where he

794
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:07,600
said, he saw up in the sky after
Thanksgiving.

795
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Okay.
He but he just goes on to

796
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,200
describe different types of
aliens, so like, I told you

797
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,800
about the tall whites who are
working with the US, Air Force

798
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,100
and Nevada.
So hey guys, if you're in if

799
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:25,700
you're in Nevada near the Air
Force Base there, go and see if

800
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:28,100
you can find any tall, white
people take a picture.

801
00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:29,800
Yeah, take a picture, share it
with us.

802
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,600
You know, you can find a sauna
on all social media at the

803
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,000
bazaar EF.
So he actually said, we're that

804
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,300
the tall whites are able to get.
This is another quote that I'm

805
00:45:42,308 --> 00:45:44,800
like, this is fucking bitch.
He said they're able to get away

806
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,100
with that.
They had a couple of their

807
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:49,900
ladies dressed as nuns to go
into Las Vegas to shop and they

808
00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:52,500
weren't detected dressed as
nuns.

809
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:57,200
They go into Las Vegas off of
the military base going to Las

810
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,400
Vegas shop as tall whites would
write because that makes sense.

811
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:05,200
Let's go.
It's like it's almost like

812
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,100
they're dressed.
Like, how often do you see

813
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,500
fucking nuns just in public
anyway.

814
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:15,100
And out of all the places, Las
Vegas, the city of sin, Right, I

815
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:18,100
guess when you're, when you're
saying it in that way, like it

816
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:20,900
makes sense because it because
so many crazy people.

817
00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:24,100
Well, it's just so weird.
It's such a bizarre thing is his

818
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:26,700
with full of weird people.
Anyway, so you're like, oh, that

819
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:29,100
fits.
But I would think that, okay?

820
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,700
Like, if you're trying to like
to go undercover in a different

821
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:35,200
culture, like you would still
stick out like a sore thumb,

822
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,000
like, oh, what are we gonna do?
We're gonna cover our head put

823
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,100
on habits like all this shit,
right?

824
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:42,800
And we're gonna go into the city
of sin and start shopping like

825
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,900
Now it's so it's so peculiar and
bizarre that it makes zero

826
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:51,700
sense.
You're like maybe it's plausible

827
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:54,500
because it's so crazy.
How crazy it's so crazy.

828
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:55,600
Maybe it is possible.
Yeah.

829
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Like what would an alien race?
Do something fucking outlandish

830
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,900
because they don't know any
better, they don't know the.

831
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:02,300
Yeah, it's like, children like
saying something or doing

832
00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:04,800
something, totally, not okay, by
our culture.

833
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:06,700
Cultural standards.
Right?

834
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,000
So he said he was saying that,
then he said there's a there's a

835
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:14,900
another A group of islands.
We talked about the short Grace

836
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:20,500
who have so slim arms and are
about five feet, high or tall

837
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,300
with large heads.
That's the standard one that we

838
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:25,200
know about right?
Like the grey aliens.

839
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,400
Okay, yeah.
And then the third group is

840
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,000
called Nordic blondes and if you
were at this is the one that I

841
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,800
was actually talking about.
If you were to to meet one that

842
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,400
you probably wonder if they're
from Denmark or somewhere.

843
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,200
Like that's these are these are
the things that mr.

844
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,300
Hollyer is saying and you're
like fuck dude.

845
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:43,200
Like yeah, you're giving us
know.

846
00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:45,200
I believe in aliens.
Okay, cool.

847
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,300
Yeah.
We all do, like, the will join

848
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,500
the fucking club, right?
But no, like, no hard proof.

849
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:54,500
No like, hey look, yeah.
I have a friend who's a top

850
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:57,400
official in the government, or,
I know through the grapevine,

851
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,600
I'm not going to fucking name
names because that could risk

852
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,700
them or whatever they said.
This is what's happening.

853
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:06,800
He's not saying any of this.
He's saying I've never met a

854
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,900
fucking alien, but this is
what's going on.

855
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:11,400
It's like Paul.
We don't believe you.

856
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:15,000
Exactly.
I mean, we believe that you

857
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,800
believe this and we believe it,
we believe in aliens.

858
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,600
Yes.
But you're not helping anything.

859
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:23,800
You're just, you're just
couldn't like really confusing

860
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,400
everything right now and then
you're just throwing it.

861
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,900
All this shit that you have like
a stake in our, a claim in which

862
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:33,700
is fucking environmental stuff
because you're serving on boards

863
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:36,900
for that.
Like I don't know, it's just

864
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:42,600
it's it's really confusing.
He when I first saw and heard of

865
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,400
him I thought Thought fuck like
this is exactly what we need.

866
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,700
We need someone who's like,
yeah, like in the government.

867
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:51,000
Like who knows what he's doing?
Tell her like it is.

868
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,900
I'll tell it like it is like the
fuck it.

869
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:56,200
Like fuck the man.
Like I'm speaking for the people

870
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,900
like I'm all about that but but
then the two just like goes off

871
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:03,000
that Illuminati and like all
this other esoteric shit that

872
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,400
going like nuns fucking dressing
up in Nevada.

873
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,600
Like this is very, very weird.
You're ruining it.

874
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,400
Paul, you're totally ruining at
Paul so I don't know our

875
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,000
thoughts.
Yay or nay again I'm maybe

876
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,900
pieces pieces.
Yes him.

877
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:22,300
But it's like, it's like going
to a trial.

878
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:27,600
Those lawyers will discredit the
shit out of you and say, make

879
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,900
you say things that make you
sound like, cray cray and then

880
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:32,700
you don't believe anything.
You're like well, how can I

881
00:49:32,708 --> 00:49:35,200
believe anything you say?
Because you're fucking not.

882
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Yeah, you're a total.
You're a total nut.

883
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,600
So purse.
Yes.

884
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,100
In fact, you know what it's time
for what?

885
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:50,100
Wow crazy, you're crazy girl.
Paul gets that Paul does get

886
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:56,500
that well Palm, you know, thank
you for being some some fun,

887
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:58,900
interesting.
You know, topic thanks for

888
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:00,600
giving us a discussion.
Yeah.

889
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,200
And and potentially like, you
know, who knows maybe some other

890
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,200
people heard him talking about
like, you know, maybe they gave

891
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,400
him some stories.
Maybe.

892
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:12,000
Maybe it made them think like,
yeah, the, the people of the

893
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,100
world need.
I know that this stuff exists.

894
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:18,000
Maybe it allowed for stories to
come out that potentially way

895
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,900
back.
Yeah, maybe.

896
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:24,200
So I'll give him a, you're
crazy, but but yeah, Donny.

897
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,700
Yeah, whatever.
Yeah, exactly, cool.

898
00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:30,100
Thanks for the great discussion.
Thank you to Paul.

899
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:31,900
Thank you Paul.
You know.

900
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,200
Peace.
Pour one out for you.

901
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,400
He's peace.
Yeah, thank you for.

902
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,300
Thank you for being here.
For me with that one.

903
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,800
We will see you on a couple
weeks.

904
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,100
Yes.
Just in a couple of weeks.

905
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:47,500
Okay, see ya.
See ya.

906
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:48,000
Bye.