CIA Gateway Process

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This is bizarre AF episode 1.
I am Alicia your host for

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today's episode and joining me
is my is my co-host with the

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most Kevin highly R.
Hello, how are you today doing

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it?
How's everybody doing here live

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Hey everybody I'm doing great.

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I'm excited to be here and this
is episode number.

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Oh my God, I can't believe it.
I feel like I've been talking

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about this for a while and
there's been a lot.

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Lots of work, especially you
have done so much work to make

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all of this.
I'm a tech junkie so wonderful,

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this has been so fun.
So ultimately, I thought that

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like it would be fun to kind of
talk about how we met.

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Yeah.
What we, what we I guess how we

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knew each other.
Sure.

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Do you want it?
Do you want to kick it off?

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Do the honors.
Yeah, well, we are lesbian best

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as well, and, you know, our love
of theater is what because it

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has connected us.
Ultimately totally.

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And we've done some shows
together, which I've been super

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fun, we've done another podcast
together, which we've determined

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sealed, Our Fate for being
podcasters.

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Yeah.
And now we thought we take it to

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another level on a topic that we
love to do.

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Talk me know that we love
personally.

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Yes.
And take it to another level

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and, you know, live stream it.
I know, I know, we're on, we're

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on here, it's so funny.
I was taught.

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When I was talking to this
morning, I'm like, oh my God, I

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am just feeling a Haggard, I had
a long night last night.

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Oh, we're gonna be like
recording.

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Hey, A make myself look kind of.
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But I, this is so exciting and I
love, I love the way that this

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looks and that it feels.
I thought that we could maybe

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like talk about little funny
thing that had happened while we

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were on stage together.
Just to kind of show you how how

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are the way that we deal with
each other is?

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So I'll talk about it.
Yeah.

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Okay.
So the one of the last shows

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that we were in, we had the
scene behind It was a scrum so

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like we were lit and you could
just see our bodies and we are

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telling this story kind of like
shadow puppet.

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Yeah.
And so we're supposed to like

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Embrace like for a part of it
and I am that night apparently

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not balanced very well I almost
fucking fell over on stage and

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comes like that like don't fall
over worse.

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Both tried it out laughs to make
like our our bodies like you

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know, and so Oh, it's funny
though, you know people see the

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Shadow and they see ya.
See this happening, you know,

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they're like well I'm sure
they're like what I think.

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I think that it went like,
clearly illustrates is you will

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come to the rescue and like help
save things.

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If they are going downhill, I
feel so safe and vice versa.

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That's what makes acting, you
know, you try to trust your

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partner, had some trades.
We have a lot of, we have a lot

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of trust here, we do.
I'm trying to say we do you know

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what?
That about so going from Theater

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now we're here talking about the
bizarre.

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So what what what kind of made
you interested in the bizarre

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like was there think it's the
unknown?

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I think that's what's
fascinating and that you can,

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you don't know the answers,
right?

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And and then trying to find the
answers trying to distinguish

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between real and not.
Real fact fiction. and then

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having some what I also, the
thing I think is fascinating is

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when You have a topic and there
is evidence to both support and

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negate it.
Yes.

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Hmm.
I had some kind of that's fun.

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I think that's fun.
It's totally fun.

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I think like, as far as what's
the bizarre, I love a good

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story.
Oh yeah, give me give me a good

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story.
Give me some gossip and

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Trainwreck.
Give me, give me an alien

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ghosts.
Anything I'm in.

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I'm in.
Like and it was back from the

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days of Unsolved Mysteries.
That was like, the first A

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bizarre-o those like, ghost
stories.

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And yeah, that's right.
That was the first thing.

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So as far as like the bizarre
stories, like what's your

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favorite type of bizarre Story?
I mean I'm into alien stuff

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alien.
I do like a okay because You

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know, it's any time someone has
proof, there's always people,

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you know, the Skeptics there's
never like here's an alien.

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You know, I mean we've never had
like here's an alien proof here.

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You're looking at an alien,
right?

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That doesn't exist so that I
think little green man.

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Yeah exactly.
So I think that that's what

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makes I think the science
fiction.

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I like the science fiction.
He part totally love it.

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Yeah I also like Strange human
behavior to like those kinds of.

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Oh okay.
Yeah, look abnormal.

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I just ecology or yes.
I thinks I called the psychology

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of people like weird bizarreness
murders or something sure.

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Yeah, anything.
Yeah.

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Well that's bizarre.
Yeah.

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Big screen.
It's very bizarre.

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And then I'm doing it in order
of things, I like and then

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probably conspiracy in the
government conspiracy kind of

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stuff.
You know, what?

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That's actually kind of my, my
phaser Jam.

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Yeah.
I love a good old-fashioned

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government release.
Give me, give me a government

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release and I'm set.
So, that's actually the first

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topic that we're talking about a
government release.

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It was actually, that's excited.
Yeah, it's really exciting.

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So, it was actually, 2003
classified document that the in

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2003 the CIA released this
document.

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Oh, so it's been around for a
little bit but you kind of

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really haven't heard of it.
At least I hadn't.

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I had never heard of it.
I actually found this through

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Tick-Tock, I was like scrolling
through Tick-Tock because you

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were like looking for government
conspiracies because because the

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algorithm knows, you know,
exactly.

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It knows that I'm always wearing
my tinfoil hat as soon as As I

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walk in the door and I'm a
weirdo.

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Okay?
Sure.

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Yeah, yeah.
So, so, the, the actual

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classified paper is called.
It's the, it's about the Gateway

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process.
Have you ever heard of why do we

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never heard of the Gateway
process?

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No, no, it's crazy because, you
know, this because it was

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released in 2003.
It's like one of those things

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that work do they Sile cake?
Yeah, I only really.

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They're like, yeah, okay, it was
actually put on by the Army

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intelligence, who would who
created This and the CIA

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released it.
So it was actually the US Army

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intelligence and security
command project and it happened

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in the 1980s.
So the purpose of it was to

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understand how the Gateway
process worked and whether it

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would actually be a benefit to
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I mean, you know, there's so
much money in the Army so it's

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like you're in the military in
general.

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So it's like there's so many
like studies that they do to try

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to see, you know, how can we get
one up on other countries.

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Trees right?
Yeah, yeah.

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So the the Gateway process is
actually a technique that was

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coined by Robert Monroe who is
the founder of the Monroe

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Institute, which is still in
existence today and it's a

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non-profit whose purposes I'm
going to, I'm quoting, okay, the

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global Awakening of human
consciousness That's mysterious.

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Yeah, the globe.
Yeah, wakening of human

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consciousness.
Meaning we are not Oak.

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We're not what, we're not
conscious or something.

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Yeah.
Okay.

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Yeah.
So I mean, I guess, I guess,

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like, from my perspective when I
was like, looking at it, I was

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thinking.
Well, fuck, you know who of

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course there.
Going to be looking into

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Consciousness and what that
means, but I like how weird is

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it going to get?
That's really what I wanted to

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know.
Where is it?

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You know, not really well and
what is, I mean, how do you, how

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do you awake a Consciousness?
And what does it mean, when your

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Consciousness is awoke?
Right?

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Exactly.
So the commander who actually

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wrote this paper and he was
involved in the Army

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intelligence this committee, he
was tasked to figure out how

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this contract Consciousness
project are processed, you'll

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hear me say like the Gateway
project Gateway process, you

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know, interchangeably.
It's really Same thing here, his

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name was Lieutenant, was it was
Lieutenant Wayne and McDonald

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and the task.
He was saying was a difficult

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one.
He actually states in the letter

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to his Commander about, you
know, trying to Define and

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discuss his task.
As frankly sir.

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That proved to be an extremely
involved, difficult business.

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Yeah, that's saying something
for sure.

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I think, you know, our good
friend Wayne so good of a

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friend.
Because, like, you know, I came

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in found him on Facebook and
maybe he's a dad but I digress,

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you know, Wayne in order to
understand how the heck, this

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Gateway process actually worked.
He had to have an understanding

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of quantum physics biomechanics.
And, and he was actually working

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with a physician and the
physician was taking this

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course.
This process course offered by

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the Monroe Institute.
So ultimately, he kind of ends

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the letter and the same to his
commander in the same way that I

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would like to begin talking.
Okay.

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Okay.
Okay, you ready?

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I'm dying to know what this is
all about, suspend your

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disbelief and everything that
I'm saying, take with a grain

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of, you know, salt whatever.
Just just put your thinking cap

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on and remove every single thing
that I'm saying or take it for

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what it is.
Okay?

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So before we get into it, I
thought okay, you know, he's

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kind of going to be dense at
first, we should drink Oh now,

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hold on.
I gotta fill.

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Yes, refill refill.
So as you all know, this is our

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first episode.
Yes.

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And you know I'm not gonna lie.
I love my adult beverages think

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we but I think it's fair to say
we both really love that but I

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thought to keep it simple.
It's our first episode.

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Let's have some champagne
because that's all about

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celebration.
Yes, this isn't going to be The

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journey for us and I'm so
excited for.

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So I'm actually doing.
We're drinking, mango champagne.

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I mean, it doesn't get any
better than that.

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Cheers bitches.
Cheers bitches.

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Hmm, that's like my sweet
bitches.

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Like, yeah, if you can find some
mango champagne, I had good even

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know that this existed until I
had it over at your house and I

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was like, oh my God.
So funny.

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Okay, so you ready, got your
drink anybody's listening.

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Yes.
Yep.

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Grab whatever you want.
It doesn't have to be alcoholic

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although you know, I got you,
here we go.

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Okay, so okay, the this Gateway
process, it was actually created

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by my other deceased friend.
He's not really my friend, but

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I'm just going to call everyone
my friend.

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So we already had brought him up
before Robert.

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A Monroe, he was actually born
in 1915 so he is a long fucking

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day.
Oh yeah.

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And he was a broadcaster, so he
started his own Broadcasting

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Company and was studying, kind
of the Is a various sound

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patterns on human consciousness.
He was like, hey, there's

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something to it.
So I'm just going to start

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studying been Consciousness,
makes a sound.

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No, but actually it's a really
good question.

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It's more like, what?
How does sound effect our

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Consciousness?
Okay, okay, you know, what kind

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of patterns can we use?
Because there's something to

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affect the Consciousness.
Yes.

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Okay, namely around like dream
states and stuff.

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Okay, So while he was like
trying to figure out this he

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actually triggered or he found
that there was something

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specific to these sound patterns
and the way that they're moving

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through the you know your
headset, okay, the ultimately

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actually triggered an
out-of-body experience and

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himself like an oobe.
That's the referred to as

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out-of-body experience or Obe.
Okay.

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Those yes, yes.
Yes I have.

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Okay yes.
So have you won?

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No.
Oh my gosh.

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It really stoked about know.
I wish.

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No.
But what bring my head?

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It was in these?
Yes, cut, you know that whole

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out-of-body.
So what does an nde stand for a

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near-death experience?
Yeah, totally.

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Yes.
Which actually, it is an

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out-of-body experience.
Yeah, that that term was

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actually coined earlier, but
Robert Monroe is typically he

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attributed to that, to that term
Out of Body Experience, okay?

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Started getting, you know,
pretty obsessed with it.

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Okay.
He said he had had enough of

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these that he could not
understand where the fuck they

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were coming from.
He knew it had something to do

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with this auditory thing that he
was studying.

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So he's like I have to figure it
out.

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What the hell is going on here?
So he decided to get some

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scientists involved and Kevin,
I'm actually going to have you

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It has direct quotes.
And this is from Monroe's, book

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Journeys out of the body, where
Monroe for refers to the

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scientists, who's Charlie, that
he's working with, and I'll have

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a link to the book in the show
notes with this episode, but

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I've highlighted the parts for
you to read, okay?

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All right.
Cool.

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Evening passed, uneventfully,
and I finally got into bed about

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140 am still.
Wide Awake.

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And then it says in Brackets
north-south position.

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What what is that?
Yeah, so the north-south

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position since he was studying
all of this, the north-south

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position was that his body was
was positioned.

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Where was his head facing?
Where was his body facing?

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He needed to tell all of these
details to Charlie the scientist

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because they were settlement.
Yeah, in case they're relevant.

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Like is the north-south.
The best way to face is that

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this like they're trying to be
as As as scientific as possible,

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and create the same scenarios,
sure to.

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So they can replicate these out
of body experiences, please

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sense.
Okay, complete sense.

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The cat was lying in bed with me
after a long period of calming,

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my mind a sense of warmth swept
over my body with no break in

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Consciousness.
No pre-sleep almost immediately.

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I felt something or someone
rocking my body from side to

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side then tugging at my feet.
Oh my God.

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I recognized immediately that
this had something to do with

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Charlie's experiment.
And with full, trust did not

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feel my usual caution.
The tugging at the legs

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continued and I finally managed
to separate one second, body arm

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and held it up, feeling around
in the dark.

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After a moment, the tugging
stopped and a hand took my

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wrist.
First gently then very, very

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firmly and pulled me out of
physical easily.

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Get out of the physical out of
the physical easily.

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What?
That's insane.

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I am.
So what I mean is this like

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literally I okay.
Yeah, well yes, so when he's

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saying, second body, have you
ever seen those okay, I'm just

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going to go back to like
sightings that show from the 90s

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or or Unsolved Mysteries.
Okay.

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Are you had like somebody laying
in bed and Like there or on a

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hospital gurney or something and
then they could see their body

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but they're like our bodies kind
of like floating up above and

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it's kind of like looking down
like like, like the camera like

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this camera and let's do it.
Yeah, like that camera right

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there, looking down.
Yeah, so, so your body would be

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up here.
Yes.

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And that's the second body,
okay, talking about that came

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out of his own physical body.
So, it would be like, my second

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body, like, mice.
I'm just gonna call it like, a

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spirit or something.
Like, I don't know what else to

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say.
A translucent self.

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I don't fucking know.
So when he says, I finally

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managed to separate one second
body arm, he's talking about

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that.
So his second body is coming.

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So I'm sitting here.
This arm is coming up outside of

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his whole body.
Gotcha, yeah.

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Okay.
So it's weird.

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Okay.
Yeah, insane.

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This is something that that
would happen to Monroe often so

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and he wanted to continue to
study these out-of-body

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experiences and sound patterns,
because he knew that there was

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Something up with it, okay?
So he have actually eventually

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moved his company to Virginia.
So that Broadcasting Company

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moved over to Virginia, where he
actually created.

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This Monroe is Institute.
The Monroe Institute is actually

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a 501, c, 3 nonprofit that still
isn't as existence today.

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So and they still actually do
this project today.

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Is this what they're doing their
thing?

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Yes.
Yeah, it's part of it.

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So they would like at back in
the day they would sell tapes.

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You'll hear me talk about tapes
often.

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And, you know, just assume that
I'm also talking about what

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however you get your media or
even YouTube because actually

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some of the stuff is on YouTube
which we'll go over later.

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So he just had begun to delve
into the study of Consciousness.

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Being found these specific tools
that made his out of body

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experiences in der.
So it wasn't like oh my arm just

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came out and I went back into my
body.

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It's like he couldn't make it
last for a longer period of

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time.
I'm using this audio and it

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would allow him to have that
higher Consciousness state.

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So it kind of triggered.
The audio would trigger this.

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Okay I know I know it's so
weird, it's a lot your part

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okay.
Yeah I mean I have a skeptical

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are but I'm gonna keep going,
right?

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We have our like, our brains
that are here to listen.

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That's right, that's right.
There will be holes.

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Here, are people experience this
on mushrooms too?

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Right.
Yeah, okay.

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Okay, okay.
Okay.

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So that's that's very
interesting.

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I okay, yes, what will kind of
get to that a little bit later

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because I think that there are
other ways to do it, okay?

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Yeah.
Okay.

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I'm so interested to hear about
your fucking story.

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Okay.
Okay, so ultimately this process

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you know the way that they do it
is it utilizes different

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techniques.
One of the techniques is

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hypnosis, we have bio Back and
then another like, Monroe

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Institute term and it's called
hemi-sync.

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I know this is a lot and so this
is a term that he developed this

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hemi-sync.
Yes.

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Okay.
And it's something that's

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constantly talked about like I
Monroe and and in the this paper

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this CIA released, excuse me,
the CIA released document is

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like 34 35 pages long.
So how many think you'll

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consistently see it?
It.

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See what what that is, that's
it's their term.

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So ultimately the goal and the
Gateway process is to kind of

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like turn off your brain in a
way that makes you focus on

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things outside of the immediate
area.

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So like right now I could be
like, oh my stomachs growling.

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I'm really hungry or like, I
really want to imbibe more.

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Let's go, let's get another
bottle of this mango champagne.

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Like you're not thinking about
that.

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It's turning off, all of your
immediate functions, like that

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allows you to kind of raise to
what they kind of term.

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Different Consciousness, level.
And so, we can ask a question

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where she can sew in this state.
Is your body still functioning?

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As some like, like I'm talking
to you right now, right?

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And your body's functioning in a
way, that okay, so if you're in

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this state, are you still
functioning that way?

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Are you in like some trance or
something like that?

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You are kind of your kind of in
like a trance or like a sleep

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state.
So you're not you're not

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conscious in the way that we
your body and your brain aren't

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conscious in the way that we
think of it of like right now

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we're talking so someone could
like if you were The state.

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Someone could just walk up on
you and stab you and think,

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yeah.
Because you were like, you're

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not really conscious.
Yes.

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Right.
You're trying to turn off those

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like fears of like flat fight or
flight, right?

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Like see.
But can you still function as a

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human being?
And no, no, no, okay.

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It's like meditation kind of
thing, okay?

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Like think about it, like a
meditation, or even like, if

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you, if you've seen people get
hypnotized or if you're in a

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really deep, Sleep where you're
dreaming and it seems super real

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your body still unconscious or
you're not necessarily in your

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right brain.
That's a great question.

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Okay, great.
All right.

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I can't a I'm sure you have more
juice.

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I have more.
Okay, so okay as far as far as

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like the hemi-sync stuff, have
you ever heard of being right?

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Or left brain totally yes.
Okay, so which one are you?

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If the listeners don't know,
I'll kind of go over what the

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gym.
Maybe you should because I can't

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remember, I can't remember now.
Okay.

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Cool.
So as far as ran into logical

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and one is like creativeness,
right?

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Exactly.
Okay, yeah.

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So the left side is like more
analytical.

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You have numbers, language
reasoning, logic science, and,

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you know, stuff like that.
Then you have the right side,

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which is, you know, emotional
intelligence, imagination

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expression.
Art that creativity?

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That stuff like that?
Yeah.

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Is there a tests?
Do you know if there's there's

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ways to test this because I feel
like I fall and I like both have

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qualities.
If I had to pick I think I'm

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more right brained more, right
brained, I think okay yeah I

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would think.
I mean you know what sucks is

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like when you look at images and
stuff, which I also have an

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image that I'm just looking at
right now it shows like a left

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and a right brain and the left
side of the brain.

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Rain is like black and white,
there's nothing in it.

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Just looks like it has a those
coils, you know, like the normal

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brain.
Yeah.

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Just black and white image.
Then you have the right side and

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the right side has like
beautiful colors and like, it's

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like painting and it's like
bright and like well because

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analytical is it's it's numbers.
It's fact is 1 or 0 1 or 0 0 1

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with right?
So that's why it's black or

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white one or zero on or off,
right?

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Yeah.
It's totally like that.

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But then, at the same time,
you're like, okay, like Clearly

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you want to be one side over the
other because the, the right one

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looks like a lot more fun.
Like, I'm right.

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Yeah, I'm definitely right.
You got looks like shit, like.

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Who wants to be fucking left
brain?

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Like we don't want to be left,
brain, want to be boring.

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We want to be cool and colorful
and yeah.

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Right?
So, I think, okay, so I think I

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can see you being both because
your I can be very analytical.

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Yeah.
Yes, very like Tech and stuff.

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Yeah, you know, you can see the
logic and I live and die by my

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by creativity and expression and
all of those.

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I'm very intuitive with people.
So that's why I feel like I'm

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more right brain.
I do think I see it.

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I think that you also have like
there's like a great kind of

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balance to because you do
computer stuff.

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I could never do that never but
Okay, so here's where I'm going

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to take off my tinfoil hat.
Okay?

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Right now and put on my logical
brain.

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Yeah, because ultimately when I
was looking at this, I'm like

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this kind of sounds like
bullshit.

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You're either one side because
they're talking about like the

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hemispheres and how different,
they are new, what you want to

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do, is get them to sync up.
Ultimately, I'm like sitting

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there thinking how the fuck does
a brain function if it's not

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talking to the other side?
Sure.

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Not consistently working
together and actually found a

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study.
That was released back in, I

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don't know, probably within the
last 10 years.

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So ultimately it was the study
was done and it basically says,

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like, you don't use one side of
your brain at a time.

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You don't necessarily have to
sink both sides of your brain.

459
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:29,200
You know, the, the actual it was
called the undervaluation of the

460
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,300
left versus right brain.
Hypothesis with resting state

461
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,800
functional connectivity magnetic
Residence and imaging so they

462
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,000
used like MRIs to study to see
whether or not you know the

463
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,800
people who are creative like
yes, absolutely show you

464
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,800
pictures and such or whatever
and they can see how your brain

465
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:46,800
reacts.
Right.

466
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,900
Exactly like how your brain is
reacting.

467
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:52,700
So the data was actually
analyzed from publicly available

468
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:56,400
resting state scans, okay?
Of over 1,000 individuals, I

469
00:26:56,408 --> 00:27:00,000
know it's not a huge population
but enough yeah between the ages

470
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,100
of seven and twenty nine and for
each some subject, what they did

471
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:08,700
is they They looked at the how
they functioned together like,

472
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,700
were they separate and they
measured each pair of like over

473
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:19,800
7,000 regions and it basically
said, you know, the Network's on

474
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,700
one side, aren't stronger on
one, then the other and it

475
00:27:22,708 --> 00:27:26,300
doesn't matter who you are and
how creative you are.

476
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:28,800
They both are really strong and
they're always working together,

477
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,300
okay?
So it's kind of bullshit.

478
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,000
So you're saying that this that
this Particular what you wear

479
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,900
your, the study whatever is
saying there is no such thing as

480
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:42,600
a left brained person a right
brained person but it's that

481
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,500
they may function in those but
those purposes but yeah, it's

482
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:50,200
not, it's not necessarily one or
the other and I think like, as

483
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,600
we're reading this, this are as
I was reading this paper that

484
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,500
was released in 1983.
The we didn't necessarily have

485
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,400
all of the the technology that
we do today to actually study

486
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,900
this.
So what When it comes to, that

487
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:08,600
kind of take it with a grain of
salt, the hemisphere is worked

488
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,300
together.
Sure.

489
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,300
And now, we know that, but they
didn't know that back in the

490
00:28:12,308 --> 00:28:14,500
night.
Okay, it is okay, yeah, okay,

491
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,700
okay.
So ultimately, okay, so we

492
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:22,900
understand the left and right,
it's not as clear cut and that

493
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:24,500
they do work together.
So the idea.

494
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:30,300
But the idea of hypnosis is to
kind of turn off some of those

495
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,000
functions of like that immediate
threat like, I'm hungry.

496
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,600
Like, you know, you want to get
into a really relaxed State,

497
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,800
those left-brained.
What they termed in this, no

498
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:43,500
left brain functions, not really
left, right?

499
00:28:43,508 --> 00:28:47,800
But, you know, them allowing
those like immediate functions

500
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,000
and that like, self-conscious,
or whatever that Consciousness

501
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,500
to kind of turn off and tune
out.

502
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:59,200
So, you know, like if you, when
you were a kid and you were

503
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200
listening to, you know, your
teacher talk about geography,

504
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,100
I'll just talk to her.
You're like falling asleep in

505
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,300
class like this is so fucking
boring.

506
00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:10,000
Yes, yes.
Same kind of droning on because

507
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,600
it's just monotone.
Not interesting.

508
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,500
There's nothing interesting
about it.

509
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,900
You're getting sleepy.
Yeah, he's sleeping it out and

510
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:21,300
you have the little things.
So it that actually monotonous.

511
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:26,600
These tones allow you to be more
suggestive to or excuse me,

512
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,500
allow you to be more responsive
to suggestions.

513
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,800
Yeah.
So the Gateway process actually

514
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,500
it does that Turns off that
place where you were your self

515
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:42,900
conscious and allows you to
become more open to suggestion

516
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:49,000
and to like a hypnosis excuse
being in that hypnotic sting.

517
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:50,600
Yeah.
He hypnotized.

518
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,300
Yes, there.
Yes.

519
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,600
There they use very similar
things like that, monotone

520
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,100
voice.
Someone, you know, like right

521
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,200
now, I could say thank you for
listening.

522
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,800
Yeah, breathe in.
Breathe out, you know.

523
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,200
So so you're not worrying.
Ultimately like you're not

524
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,800
worrying about your immediate
location.

525
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,800
What you're doing instead is is
your, you're just concentrating

526
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,000
and allowing your right brain or
the that thing that's tied to a

527
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,200
higher Consciousness to come
out.

528
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,900
So it does this actually through
tapes, remember how I was

529
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:29,100
talking about the tapes with the
Gateway process.

530
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,100
Okay, so they had taste back
then now you can find it on

531
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:38,000
YouTube but It pits where your
brain kind of almost Tunes out

532
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000
everything and and it's being
played through headphones.

533
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,600
So you can't just turn it onto
your TV and have this work, you

534
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,900
have to be wearing some kind of
headphones.

535
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,300
Some kind of like that's a block
out other stuff.

536
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,600
It's the way that the the actual
audio works.

537
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,800
Now we're back to the shapes of
the tones and the sounds and

538
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,000
such and the sounds.
Yeah, we'll go a little bit more

539
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600
into it.
These specific like hurts here,

540
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:04,500
listening to To.
Yeah.

541
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,200
So ultimately, like, you know
what you're doing is you know,

542
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,800
it took the reins tuning out.
What is being played through the

543
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,400
headphones because it's getting
bored.

544
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,500
And the suggestions that you're
given our kind of Taken without

545
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:21,500
your brain, having to worry
about being too on top of the

546
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:23,100
immediate surroundings, don't
have to worry about anything,

547
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,900
or, like, whatever.
I'm just getting really, really

548
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,100
relaxed.
Yeah, okay.

549
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,700
So we have three different
things, we have biofeedback,

550
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:31,600
which I had mentioned before,
hemi-sync.

551
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,800
And then we have one more We'll
go through just the biofeedback.

552
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,200
So ultimately biofeedback is
like, our are smart watches.

553
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200
So I have one right now, it
counts.

554
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,000
How many steps I'm doing?
It says like, what my, you know,

555
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,200
my resting my heart rate is, if
I'm, you know, it can.

556
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,400
Sometimes they can measure blood
pressure, whatever.

557
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:53,400
All of us have them.
But that's basically showing,

558
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:56,900
you know what your body's doing
in that moment.

559
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:01,000
So it's actual its measurements
of function within that

560
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,100
brain-body connection.
So that's what they're that's

561
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:05,400
what they're doing, okay?
I'm ultimately so that they are

562
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,600
using biofeedback hemi-sync that
fucking word.

563
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:10,900
So, how many think it's that
term?

564
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:13,800
So we're trying to sink, both
the left and the right sides of

565
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,200
your brain and get them on the
same.

566
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,100
Like, essentially the same
wavelength, so it's done through

567
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:24,000
meditation and listening to
those Focus three tapes and it

568
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200
kind of allows this to be
sustained.

569
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,600
So we have that that place that
you're in and then what you end

570
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,900
up doing is you're sustaining
that sinking And that like

571
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,100
higher Consciousness potentially
out-of-body experience for a

572
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,600
longer period of time.
Okay, so that's the goal of it,

573
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,800
I actually.
So ultimately ultimately, we've

574
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,500
cued up a link that Kevin has
and it's Robbie Robert Monroe.

575
00:32:48,500 --> 00:33:13,800
Actually speaking in the
Turn on your bank, on your side,

576
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:26,600
on your stomach.
We are ready now, for the next

577
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,500
exercise, move your arms, move
your legs.

578
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,700
So that they are in the most
comfortable position for you.

579
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:40,100
Turn on your back, on your side.
On your stomach whichever way is

580
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:45,300
the most comfortable place and
way for you to lie do this while

581
00:33:45,300 --> 00:34:13,500
I wait.
Yes.

582
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:14,900
Yes it was.
Yeah.

583
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:17,900
In the tones and that was louder
softer.

584
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,300
Kind of moving around.
Yeah.

585
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:23,300
And now so every so all of your
saying all of those tones and

586
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,000
were everything is very
intentional, all of this is

587
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,699
intentional so and so they've
developed these sounds.

588
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:38,699
To get you into this.
State yes, yeah well yes.

589
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:42,900
So you have these tones the
hurts and then you also have it

590
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:46,000
rolling between one ear and the
next which hence why you need

591
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,699
headphones.
You have to have headphones.

592
00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:51,000
It's not going to work but even
the rolling waves that we were

593
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,000
Hearing in there.
Yeah.

594
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:55,400
Kind of gives you that white
noise kind of effect where

595
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,500
you're just kind of relaxing and
it's really rhythmic.

596
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,400
Yeah and so brings you into
that.

597
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,400
So okay ultimately you know it's
used to actually mimic the

598
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,400
Frequency pattern that it's that
the brains actually hearing so.

599
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:11,700
So, let's say, like right now
our brains are actually

600
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:13,900
functioning normally, right?
So we're awake.

601
00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:16,600
We're talking.
We're drinking, we can talk to

602
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,400
each other.
We're in a beta level, that's

603
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,400
what the beta level is.
Our brains are in the beta

604
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,500
level, they're in the beta level
when, when we are conscious,

605
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:28,000
okay, in this sense, okay.
And the sense of we are right

606
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,600
now.
Yes.

607
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,500
Okay, so if you play the audio
that is associated with Theta

608
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,400
levels which is kind of what we
are starting to hear.

609
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:36,500
Here.
Okay?

610
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:40,200
It's the same levels that your
brain is using while you're

611
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,600
sleeping.
So it'll allow you to go from

612
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,000
that fully awake state like
right now.

613
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,500
Uh-huh.
And then you can kind of get to

614
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:51,500
that really relaxed.
Almost REM cycle where your your

615
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,200
super like, I don't know, yoga,
or meditation to okay.

616
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Sure.
So that's what we're hearing

617
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,000
inside of our headphones is like
audio.

618
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
That's going to cause us to fall
asleep.

619
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,800
Okay?
So or not be as contrast.

620
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,100
So If one of your so one of your
headphones, one side slightly,

621
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,800
different hurts levels than the
other.

622
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:15,800
So what, as its rolling, you
might have like 10 Hertz in one

623
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,600
and then seven Hertz in the
other.

624
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,000
And, but it's really hard for
the actual brain, like for us to

625
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,700
distinguish right now, we can't
hear that, right?

626
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:27,300
So we just hear that something
is rolling back and forth, but

627
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:28,800
it's very subtle.
Oh, gosh.

628
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:33,300
It, it's very subtle and hard to
distinguish normally.

629
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:37,200
Okay, so this is actually
something that normally will

630
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,100
naturally happen with long-term,
like, decades-long practitioners

631
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:45,100
of yoga and Zen meditation.
Okay, so what our friend Wayne

632
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,300
says, you know, the one who's
dead, who's writing this.

633
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,900
He says, that looking at like
recent articles that there's

634
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:53,300
actually connection, that's what
Wayne had said, but I was

635
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:56,100
looking at it and I was reading
that there is a connection

636
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,400
between meditation and lower
rates of heart disease.

637
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400
So what they're saying in this
paper was they were talking

638
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,100
about the ventricles of the
heart and how the heart like

639
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:09,700
your Pressure will change the
more you meditate and that

640
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:12,500
shit's true.
Like there are links and studies

641
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,400
that link, you know your heart
rate, your blood pressure

642
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,800
actually changes.
The more that you meditate.

643
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,300
Yes, I firmly believe that.
That's something you can

644
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:23,900
definitely measure.
So.

645
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:26,500
Yeah.
Check check left left brain,

646
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,900
right brain bullshit this.
Yes, totally.

647
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Yeah.
So he actually Wayne goes on to

648
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:35,200
talk about vibrational energy.
This is where we're getting.

649
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Whoa, Ooh we again, okay.
So and how that Gateway process

650
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,200
works with vibrational
Technologies.

651
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:47,300
So Kevin, if you could just read
this for me and that's an actual

652
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:51,700
quote from the the document
itself.

653
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:56,200
Sure.
Is designed to rather rapidly

654
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,400
induce a state of profound calm
within the nervous system and to

655
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,700
significantly lower blood
pressure to cause the

656
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:10,700
circulatory system skeleton and
all other physical organ systems

657
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:17,600
to begin, vibrating coherently.
Okay, Kevin, do you get what

658
00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:20,400
Wayne and I are trying to say to
you get what were thrown out

659
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,100
there, your vibrate.
So I do.

660
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,300
Yeah.
And so I don't know if this is

661
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:31,000
really, maybe it's related, but
I've also know that all matter

662
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,400
by has a vibrate vibrates, yes,
it all has a resonance I think.

663
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,800
Yeah.
Out of resin resonance.

664
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:39,500
Uh-huh.
And that's how you can bring

665
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:43,900
bridges down with a certain tone
because if you get something to

666
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,600
eat at the same frequency, That,
that particular thing is

667
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,900
vibrating and you make a
crumble.

668
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,600
Oh my God.
Fall apart.

669
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:52,100
That's so true.
I didn't even think of that.

670
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,200
So yeah.
So I guess I think this is all

671
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,700
tying into that.
It's the same thing.

672
00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:58,600
Same exact thing.
Ultimately.

673
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,100
Yeah.
It's just I guess at one of them

674
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,600
is tied to Consciousness.
Yeah.

675
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:09,400
So I guess what I I'm still.
I'm sure about.

676
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,700
Yes what, what are you unsure
about tell me, is I guess I'm

677
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:20,700
still confused as to how the
government is involved.

678
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:30,500
What the relevance is the
relevance is and why they felt

679
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:36,000
the need to release the babies?
Find these paper, right?

680
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Are we getting there?
Yes, we're getting there.

681
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,300
So the the thing like in Wayne's
actual document, he's like,

682
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,200
dude, look in order for me to
even like show you or tell you

683
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,100
what the fuck is going on with
this whole process and how it

684
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:55,500
works?
I have to Of you a base

685
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,900
understanding God to go in,
right?

686
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,100
Otherwise it would be nothing,
it would make sense.

687
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,700
Yes, it would make no sense.
You would, you know, he'd be

688
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,100
talking about having a sinker
like this like vibrational

689
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,000
bullshit and you're like, yeah,
fuck you.

690
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,600
Like we just paid you how much?
Like and this is what you're

691
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,600
doing with the government's
money, got it.

692
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,800
So also the government he was so
this was all funded from the

693
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,100
government.
Yeah, he works for the Army sent

694
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:21,900
100%, okay?
Army like special intelligence?

695
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:25,000
Okay, whatever.
Okay, like this, the Army's

696
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,500
like, you know, special
intelligence team, okay?

697
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:30,100
So he was stuck.
He was tasked with studying this

698
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:33,100
and seeing how could actually
help the Army because they knew

699
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:35,300
some weird shit was going on,
okay?

700
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:38,900
Because if he's so when you
start talking about Armed Forces

701
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:44,000
getting into this stuff then now
we're getting in to really what

702
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,400
they're trying to do.
I think exactly?

703
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,300
Yeah.
Okay, exactly.

704
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,900
So so this is just like
foundational knowledge that you

705
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:51,700
have to do to understand how it
works.

706
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:54,800
And then we're going to About
what the fuck are they going to

707
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,900
do is.
Okay.

708
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,100
Yeah, intriguing, so, but in
order for us to even kind of

709
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,400
discuss that, I think that like,
you know, understanding, what

710
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,200
the fuck Consciousness even is
like when I can sit here.

711
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,900
Okay.
We're conscious were awake.

712
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,200
Like, what the, what is that?
Yes, you know, do you know what

713
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,600
it is?
What color would you?

714
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,900
What would you define it as like
if you were to Define it?

715
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:19,900
That's, that's a hard.
I feel like if you really think

716
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:24,700
about everything, that's a hard,
Question, so hard.

717
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,300
Imagine trying to tell the Army,
what the fuck it is

718
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:34,200
consciousness is the opposite of
unconscious and unconsciousness

719
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:45,100
is, when I am not aware. of my
Dementia, current dimensionals

720
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:47,500
presence.
Oh, okay, I don't know.

721
00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:49,200
I like that.
I like that answer.

722
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,000
I mean, that's a that's a kind
of I kind of threw you under the

723
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,400
bus.
A fucking question.

724
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:58,800
Be honest.
Like I'm sorry and I was but I

725
00:41:58,808 --> 00:42:02,000
was trying to be real careful
because when you say reality

726
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,500
like what is reality?
Yeah.

727
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:07,800
What is reality, right?
So that's why I was saying this

728
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,300
to maybe this damn in this
Consciousness.

729
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:14,900
And this particular space and
time I love that you're saying

730
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:17,900
all of this because you are
bringing up shit that we are

731
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:21,600
going to talk about.
All of this comes up, okay, /,

732
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:23,200
great.
And you're like, wait, I'm

733
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,000
reading what what?
The fuck's so ultimately, you

734
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,300
know, the way that they Define
it is there they talk about

735
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,100
matter, right?
Because he's writing to the

736
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,900
Army, I have to Define this to
this dude.

737
00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:38,900
Who fucking is boring shit and I
have to say, what is this

738
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:41,000
scientifically?
So he's like, you know, it's

739
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:45,200
ultimately it's matter.
And we're looking at what real

740
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,400
matter is, and, you know, really
were getting nerdy like my dude,

741
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,700
McDonald, who wrote this.
He's like, this is what he said.

742
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:56,000
He said that the, it's an atomic
structure, which is composed of

743
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,900
oscillating.
Energy, Grant surrounded by

744
00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:01,500
other oscillating energy grids,
which orbited extraordinarily

745
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,700
high speeds.
He actually which is fucking too

746
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,300
much.
We know what fucking matter is,

747
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:07,700
yeah, but he has to go into that
detail.

748
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:12,600
He actually says that the detail
of the hurt of a Hertz of an

749
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Like that vibrational Sound
Energy of an atom.

750
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,800
That's how far he goes into this
paper breaking down shit because

751
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,400
he has to, because he's coming
back at it from a scientific

752
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:26,100
background.
I'm not going to bore you with

753
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,400
that.
So, you would go right over my

754
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,200
head.
Anyway, it's that's exactly what

755
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,500
I think is going over my head.
So what you really need to know

756
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:36,900
is that he defines Consciousness
as, you know, the function of an

757
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:43,100
interaction of energy and two
separate states that motion His

758
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:47,900
rest.
So that is what Matter

759
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:54,300
Consciousness is is that
interaction of energy.

760
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:56,800
Okay.
Okay so now let's I know you

761
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,900
got.
You've been so patient.

762
00:43:58,900 --> 00:44:00,900
Let's look at into the really
weird shit.

763
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,800
Okay so are you ready?
Yeah buckle up.

764
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,800
Okay did you have your drink and
hand?

765
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,100
Now I'm going to start I'm sure
I do need some actually.

766
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:12,700
Yeah we're going to thank you
some weird stuff.

767
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:15,300
This would be appropriate.
Yeah you need you need the

768
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:16,800
liquid courage.
Age for sure.

769
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,600
Okay.
So ultimately He starts talking

770
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:27,600
about some weird shit, the
Hologram and Consciousness make

771
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,100
Matrix.
Okay, I'm Kevin.

772
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:32,800
I'm just going to let you do the
honors and and quote him

773
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,300
directly, okay?
Okay?

774
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:39,200
I can do that.
The universe is in and of

775
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,400
itself.
One gigantic hologram of

776
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,100
unbelievable complexity.
The human mind is also a

777
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:55,300
hologram, which a Tunes itself
to the universal hologram.

778
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,900
WTF.
What the fuck?

779
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,500
The tumen is fucking
Consciousness is what he's

780
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:09,300
trying to say.
My brain hurts and I don't have

781
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:10,800
enough.
It's much.

782
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,700
It's too much.
It's way too much.

783
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:15,100
It, none of that makes sense to
me.

784
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,800
None of this makes sense to me.
All I know is that I've heard of

785
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,300
the Hologram the universe being
a hologram and how it kind of

786
00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:26,600
works within each other.
He goes into great detail will

787
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,100
see that, I And compute know
that theory.

788
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,100
No, no, no, you can't.
Yeah, I can't either.

789
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:38,800
I mean, ultimately, the the real
question is how the fuck does

790
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,000
this work with a Gateway
process?

791
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,300
And why are you wasting our
time?

792
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:46,800
And this fucking paper, right?
So I'm happy that you asked.

793
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:51,700
Thanks for asking it actually.
So, so ultimately, it helps our

794
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:56,200
Consciousness or our brains
perceive the universe and It's

795
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,200
or our, you know, Consciousness
with a filter.

796
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,100
So we're only getting
information that's actually

797
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:04,000
that's pure.
Without it being tainted by, how

798
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,700
you feel or how you, you know,
perceive things your ego.

799
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:14,300
So when we're looking at the at
Consciousness, and how it works

800
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:19,400
in a greater sense with a
universal Consciousness, if we

801
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,600
can turn off that place in our
brain that we're like thinking

802
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,500
about the immediate, our
immediate needs.

803
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:29,500
And we can get into that like
kind of Zen State, we have the

804
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:32,200
ability to have more of the
universe kind of opened up for

805
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,900
us, okay?
And get those answers.

806
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:36,900
Okay, not the ego being
involved.

807
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:39,900
Okay?
So I'm gonna skip talking about

808
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:44,700
quantum physics and subatomic
particles and space-time like

809
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:49,100
intervening Dimensions.
Just know that dimensions exist

810
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:54,200
like you are saying, okay, and
that, I am not a damn scientist,

811
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,700
but I am a fucking Girl, who
reads romance novels and has

812
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:02,200
issues with cursing?
Okay, I'm not qualified.

813
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:07,500
It exists and McDonald's, dry as
fuck and about it.

814
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:10,000
So, there are multiple
dimensions and possibilities in

815
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,300
the universe that actually
exists.

816
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:13,600
So we can have more than one
dimension.

817
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,000
We could currently be in.
It could be multiple Dimensions

818
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,400
that we can have access to.
All right, so we go back to our

819
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,700
out-of-body experiences, that
term, it concerns.

820
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:26,800
The Consciousness is
Consciousness with the allowing,

821
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,600
the Consciousness to be outside
of the body, right?

822
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,000
Like death or dying scenarios,
or if you're lucky enough to

823
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,500
fucking do it while you're
sleeping that can you can do it

824
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:42,300
in the past the future, and the
present.

825
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,500
So you can go back and these
out-of-body experiences, which

826
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:47,500
is what they found in this
Gateway process.

827
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:50,100
As people were doing it, they
can go back to their past, they

828
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:53,900
could go to the Future and they
could they could currently like

829
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:57,700
you're watching yourself.
And and like being worked on or

830
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,200
whatever you can go through and
see that.

831
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:07,100
So those are, those are totally
different experiences and some

832
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:10,000
people who are doing it
consistently and get better at

833
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,200
it.
Can do even crazier shit like,

834
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:15,500
you know, not just looking at
your body sleeping, you know,

835
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:20,200
think think about the actual use
of this with the military.

836
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:22,900
Well, yeah.
When you start talking about

837
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:28,200
being able to See, feed the
future.

838
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,000
Yes.
See the future or interact with

839
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,600
the past.
Yeah, that was the other thing.

840
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,100
So you literally were
interacting, they were just they

841
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:40,400
weren't just watching.
They were interacting interact

842
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,000
with with your environment and
different dimensions.

843
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:49,500
But doesn't that get into that
whole altering time time?

844
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:54,500
And I mean, if that all up, it
does and if you talk to some

845
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:57,500
people, not that I'm wearing
conspiracy theory have.

846
00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:01,000
But I do have my Tinfoil hat
somewhere around here.

847
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:06,900
They'll talk about the Mandela
effect that is due to an

848
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:09,800
altering of a timeline.
Mmm, and there are multiple

849
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,900
timelines that are happening all
at once, okay?

850
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:15,100
So what if that was happening
like the, of course, the

851
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:18,700
military would be going and
seeing what this Consciousness,

852
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:22,500
you know, studies doing because
these people can go even if it's

853
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:25,900
in the present, right?
If you're in the present and you

854
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:28,700
are I don't know trying to find
Osama Bin Laden.

855
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,200
Well yeah.
If I can get out of my body and

856
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,200
go to the area write or say
like, hey my Consciousness is

857
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,400
gonna tie to like Osama Osama
Bin Laden's or whomever is

858
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,300
right.
You can set that down and say

859
00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:42,800
like, oh, I'm here.
Yes, exactly.

860
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,500
I'm here or like the, this is
how many?

861
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,000
Like, you know, I don't know.
Guards.

862
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,200
They have or like, here's a
nuclear weapon.

863
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,500
Yeah.
Like the the limits are.

864
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:52,500
Yeah.
It's a little less rights

865
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,300
Limitless.
So it's really why McDonald was

866
00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:59,900
was studying it.
Okay, he he was looking at It

867
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:02,900
how can this be used?
Kind of as a weapon, not kind of

868
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,200
definitely as well as a weapon,
you know.

869
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,700
So how the he was doing it, he
was taking these, these Focus

870
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:11,400
tapes and stuff and going to The
Institute.

871
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:17,800
So like I said, I'll have it in
the show notes, but it allows

872
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,800
you to get to that State of
Consciousness and projection

873
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,900
outside of the body that
projection outer body,

874
00:50:22,900 --> 00:50:24,800
projection Out of Body
Experience.

875
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,300
Yeah.
So eventually these tapes, what

876
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:30,000
they fucking do is crazy.
Shit.

877
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:34,100
It actually allows you to go
outside your body and be able to

878
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:35,800
and here are just a couple of
options.

879
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:39,000
They called the energy bar tool,
I'm not kidding, this is

880
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,100
actually in the fucking the
document itself where you have

881
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:50,200
to Envision a small dot of light
and it starts vibrating you make

882
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,500
that light pulse hate.
What are they going to do with

883
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:55,100
that?
Pulsation, you.

884
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Wait, no.
So you make the light.

885
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:05,000
Okay, had to get had together,
so you see a small dot of light,

886
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:06,300
huh?
And then what you do is you

887
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:08,300
envision it, pulsating.
Okay.

888
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:12,600
And you have to what you're
doing is you're channeling force

889
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,900
from the universe to heal and
Revitalize your own body.

890
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,900
Oh, your own body?
Yeah.

891
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,100
Okay, so that's one option.
As you're going through.

892
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,200
That's one thing that can happen
in that were consistently

893
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,600
happening.
These are practitioners who have

894
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,900
been doing it.
So That would be good for a

895
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:34,900
military military, for sure.
Yeah, actually, when I was on

896
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:37,500
Tick Tock, they talked about it
and how like, some people who

897
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:41,000
were like spies or whatever
would use that if they were in

898
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,400
interrogations setting.
Sure.

899
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,100
And you could, if you could you
knew it well enough, and you can

900
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:51,400
get to that state, you could
heal your body or what about the

901
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,900
ability to not feel pain.
Exactly.

902
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,100
So the ramifications are fucking
huge with that.

903
00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:02,400
Sure remote viewing, which is
what you are talking about where

904
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,000
they actually had a whole
project on revoke remote

905
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,200
viewing, okay?
Where they would study someone

906
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,200
would be tested like, okay,
where is this nuclear you know,

907
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,600
base or whatever?
What what color is the is the

908
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,300
guard wearing or something
stupid that they had just

909
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:19,300
decided.
The people would come back and

910
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,300
be accurate.
There was one guy which will go

911
00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:24,000
over.
He's going to be a topic for a

912
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,100
future.
Future podcast, but he was one

913
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:32,300
of the most consistent remote
viewers and he did it utilizing

914
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:35,800
techniques that Robert Monroe,
really kind of solidified, okay?

915
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:39,600
Then we have like a living body
map and ultimately it's the same

916
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,900
thing as that like energy
pulsating wand thing.

917
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:46,600
Yeah.
So what you do is you actually

918
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,700
see energy flowing fix areas and
an amplified by so it's like a

919
00:52:50,708 --> 00:52:56,000
more more extreme energy.
Bar tool.

920
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,900
So if you're hurt or whatever,
it it helps you to heal that

921
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:04,300
more to not feel it.
Then we get into traveling into

922
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:07,800
the past.
And they actually say it's on

923
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,500
tape.
Number 15, that teaches you, but

924
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:13,200
you have to be using these
tapes, consistently in order to

925
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,700
get to that can just jump to 15.
Yeah, I can't just jump to 15

926
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:17,600
and have it work.
Yeah, these are practitioners.

927
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,900
Have been doing it for a while
but then they can go into the

928
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:24,400
past less than 5% of the people
who actually, you know, do the

929
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,500
Gateway process can get to that
point consistently, okay?

930
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:35,600
So, one thing that was kind of
fucked-up was They were talking

931
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,200
about people and like, actually
we think of the past, like going

932
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,200
back into the past.
Well.

933
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,800
Oh, you're going to try to save,
you know, Lincoln from getting

934
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,200
shot or something.
You can go back into your own

935
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,500
individual past and re-evaluate
or fix things that you have

936
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:54,000
done.
Your own consciousness.

937
00:53:56,500 --> 00:54:02,100
Again I like how does that not
change other stuff?

938
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,400
I mean like the butterfly effect
is what you're talking about,

939
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,400
right?
Yeah.

940
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,000
Or yeah it has to have
ramification has to I would

941
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,800
think I think that's where the
ultimate other.

942
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,600
If you're asking me, once again,
romance novel reader, fucking

943
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,500
love this shit.
I think that it does have an

944
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:28,400
effect on Are the actual what
we're actually dealing with.

945
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,100
So you might have multiple
Dimensions.

946
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,700
So maybe you switch over I don't
fucking know or or the Mandela

947
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:36,500
effect Berenstein versus
Berenstain Bears.

948
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:38,200
Have you heard of that?
No.

949
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,500
So the Mandela effect is where
people specifically, remember,

950
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:46,300
something happening in the past,
they look back and they're like,

951
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:48,000
oh, holy shit.
Like this actually didn't

952
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:53,200
happen, like, I swear to God,
like this actor died or like

953
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:59,700
it's named after Mandela.
Nelson Mandela people swore to

954
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:05,100
God that he had died and he had
not died like before he was like

955
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:07,200
right after he was released, or
like, right before he was

956
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:12,400
assassinated or something, and
people are like fucking positive

957
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,300
that he died.
Like I remember, I remember a

958
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:18,300
funeral, the ceremonies and
everything being played.

959
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:21,700
Oh my God.
Yeah I would, if that's real

960
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:25,000
then when you I would go insane.
Yes.

961
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,100
Yeah because people would say,
no.

962
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,000
So you see him standing right
there.

963
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,500
Ya know what but you're like,
what the fuck?

964
00:55:31,508 --> 00:55:35,400
But no I yeah I actually saw.
That's called a Mandela effect.

965
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,900
So it was named after that
because a lot of people are

966
00:55:37,900 --> 00:55:41,000
like, no, no I remember this.
I remember like it being

967
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,100
televised.
His funeral that he actually did

968
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:45,400
die.
Oh my God.

969
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:47,700
Yeah.
So what if that's like an

970
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:52,500
example of, you know, this of
this people changing the past

971
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:58,800
and then little blips but you
have right like where you how do

972
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,300
people and and so if this is a
thing how do those people, how

973
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:09,100
do they keep People from not
having this Mandela effect, you

974
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:11,700
know I'm saying?
Like I go and I go, I change the

975
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:15,000
past whatever.
Well what is it?

976
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,400
How do you not?
You know I'm saying like how do

977
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,500
you make people not remember
what it was before.

978
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:23,600
Did you ever read that butterfly
like effect because forget what

979
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,500
it was called?
I think I sound.

980
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:28,400
No, it's not the facade of Fury.
It's something but it's

981
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,200
basically what happens is like
these people are Time, Travelers

982
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,900
their rich people and they
travel back in time to like Hunt

983
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:38,500
Dinosaurs and one of the One of
the big rules was you cannot do

984
00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:43,400
not step outside of like this
like you know, roped-off area,

985
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:46,400
you have to stay in this.
So this guy goes and like

986
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,200
there's an election coming up
and he goes and he actually

987
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:56,900
slightly goes off of the road or
the trail and he steps on a

988
00:56:56,900 --> 00:57:00,900
butterfly and the and it was a
blue butterfly in the butterfly

989
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,100
died.
When he came back to the

990
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:07,400
present, everything was Changed
my God, their currency was

991
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,500
different.
The the person who was actually

992
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:13,500
elected versus when they left
was totally different there, the

993
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:15,100
language that they had was
different.

994
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,800
So he comes back and sees that
that one tiny change in the past

995
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:21,100
had Furs all these.
Yeah, yeah.

996
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:23,400
Yeah.
I think that, it does.

997
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,900
What if there's like police or
something not to put on more of

998
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:28,500
a tinfoil hat, but yeah.
What if there are like time

999
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:31,500
police or something that they're
like, no, no, you can't fuck

1000
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:34,000
with us too much.
That watch these people who are

1001
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:35,700
involved in.
Yes, consciousness.

1002
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:40,800
Projects.
So ultimately the thing that was

1003
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:44,500
the future is actually the last
the last tape that you go over

1004
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,900
and it's the hardest one to
reach to get to the Future to

1005
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:50,300
get into the future.
And so that's on the 15th tape,

1006
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,500
I don't know what it is now but
ultimately other the other

1007
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:59,000
aspects of the past which the
individual himself has no has no

1008
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,400
connection to so like you could
that's also on on 15.

1009
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,000
So you could go to Lincoln being
shot or whatever.

1010
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,000
That and the future are two
things that you can do, but it's

1011
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,500
not very reliable at all.
So it's only used by used by

1012
00:58:14,500 --> 00:58:17,800
people who've done it for
absolute years and here's the

1013
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,500
fuck fucking like really, really
crazy thing.

1014
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:26,700
So this paper like I said is
like over 30 pages and are over

1015
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:32,800
25 pad pages and on page 24, it
leaves a cliffhanger.

1016
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:38,600
Okay, so page 25 Missing.
But this is how page 24 goes.

1017
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,000
It's talking about that conduct
ultimate Consciousness and how

1018
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,500
we experience it.
I'm going to have you read the

1019
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:50,900
quote on the Cliffhanger between
page 24 and then missing page 25

1020
00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:56,800
and the Eternal thought or
concept of self which results

1021
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,200
from this self-consciousness
serves the serves Hill.

1022
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,200
You mean just stops it stops?
And the whole page is not there

1023
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:08,100
page. 25 is not there.
It's gone.

1024
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,800
You're gone.
What do you mean?

1025
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,300
Wait, I'm confused.
So they mean, when they release

1026
00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:15,100
that they didn't include page
25.

1027
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,600
Yeah, and this is our page 26.
Yes.

1028
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:22,000
There's a page 26.
I believe it's 29 Pages.

1029
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:27,300
Mmm, so page 25 was
intentionally left out.

1030
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,500
Well, normally this is the weird
thing is like, normally you have

1031
00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:32,100
these CIA documents they'll be
redacted, right?

1032
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:33,400
Yeah.
Like horse exactly.

1033
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,400
The gold blocks at like, looks
like permanent marker like why

1034
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,000
even include the page is all
blacked out.

1035
00:59:38,008 --> 00:59:41,200
Yeah you can't see anything.
Yeah that's not done here.

1036
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,800
The whole page is actually
missing and of course that was

1037
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,000
any of the other was the any
other part of the document

1038
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,800
redacted know.
Nothing on the dock.

1039
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,500
Nothing on the documents.
Redacted.

1040
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:56,300
No other pages are missing.
No, other pages are missing,

1041
00:59:56,300 --> 01:00:00,800
huh?
And Interesting.

1042
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,900
And so was was this was this
released, you know, as a

1043
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:08,000
physical like physical papers,
it was yeah.

1044
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,200
Or was it?
Because this was would have been

1045
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,800
online.
The timer could have been now.

1046
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,600
So as physical paper is worth
page 25, I was physically left

1047
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,100
include, it was physically,
included originally, and we're

1048
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:21,100
talking about.
So people have actually written

1049
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:24,900
the CIA and was like, Hey, so
there was a page 25 when they

1050
01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:27,000
released it to the public.
Was it included?

1051
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,200
You know, initially.
No, it was not.

1052
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,100
Now once they released it 25 was
gone, right?

1053
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:34,800
So the CIA was in charge of this
paper, right?

1054
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,400
They were in charge of releasing
it.

1055
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:39,900
The Army intelligence agency is
the one who had the paper and

1056
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:44,300
start it created it.
So they handed over to the CIA

1057
01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:47,800
and the CIA released the paper
to the public 2003.

1058
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:51,000
It's been missing.
The CIA does not have the page,

1059
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,000
but so I say so they say,
they're like, no, we don't have.

1060
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,400
It was not included.
Originally, this is all we have.

1061
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,400
You can write The so they say
exactly.

1062
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,300
He writes, the Army engines
committee, this is how you

1063
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:07,200
request it.
Nothing's come of it.

1064
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,600
So nobody knows what the fuck
page 25 is.

1065
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,400
Oh my God, hmm.
Ian, I wonder what kind of

1066
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,500
answers are what kind of
thoughts on Consciousness and

1067
01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:20,100
how it affects us is there
because ultimately, you know,

1068
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,300
the whole this whole like
self-consciousness serves the

1069
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,800
what like is this a warning?
Like I don't know.

1070
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,700
I kind of thought like maybe
there's like a Warning or

1071
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:33,500
something here.
Like, if we are self-conscious,

1072
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,100
you know, or this, the the way
that we're accessing this

1073
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:42,300
information from the universe,
if this is like some kind of

1074
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:48,500
like ulterior like motives,
maybe it's really bad, you know?

1075
01:01:48,700 --> 01:01:50,800
Like the universe is going to
let you have the information or

1076
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,100
I don't fucking know.
I know it's just it's should be

1077
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:55,600
everybody went back in time and
took it out.

1078
01:01:57,100 --> 01:02:00,500
Yeah, they could have I don't
They could have they were on

1079
01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:10,000
like on tape 15 did it.
So, you know, ultimately I think

1080
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,000
that like I think when it comes
to this concept of the universe

1081
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,800
and self-consciousness, you
know, the question regarding

1082
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,700
that page 25 like, you know,
could big brother be keeping us

1083
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:25,500
out, you know, is the man
keeping us down, I don't fucking

1084
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:31,900
know but our long-lost and
unlikely friend MacDonald had

1085
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:35,600
said that there was that it
would be good for the military

1086
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,300
to get people trained in
intelligent and intelligence and

1087
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:42,600
Using this.
And then he goes step by step on

1088
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:49,200
how they should start utilizing
the Gateway process and this was

1089
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:56,900
in 2004 which 1984 this is 84.
Yeah, this was originally

1090
01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:59,300
written.
Oh, I see but wasn't released

1091
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:02,100
until the public didn't get in
2003.

1092
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,400
Okay?
Yeah.

1093
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:06,100
C-come.
He was recommending this in the

1094
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:08,800
80s to the Army to start doing
it.

1095
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,000
Hmm.
Yes.

1096
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,000
Yeah.
And people talk about about the

1097
01:03:14,008 --> 01:03:17,800
military and, you know, spies
and things like that actually

1098
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,100
using it.
So I don't know.

1099
01:03:21,108 --> 01:03:24,200
It's fucking it would not
surprise me if they did.

1100
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,200
Go back in time.
That's why we have these Mendel

1101
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,500
effects.
If people, we would never know.

1102
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,900
We would never know unless you
thought chick.

1103
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:34,900
How is Chick-fil-A spelled What
is he?

1104
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:36,400
What do you mean?
Why why do you ask that

1105
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,400
question?
It's another Mandela effect that

1106
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,000
people talk about like you might
be in another dimension.

1107
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,100
Anyways, there's like a whole
list of my God.

1108
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:46,200
Yeah, like if you remember
something, so specifically

1109
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,700
somebody fucked with the
timeline and so you're in a

1110
01:03:49,700 --> 01:03:52,000
different timeline or whatever
are you came from a different

1111
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,300
timeline or someone fucked the
with our timeline and the past?

1112
01:03:56,300 --> 01:04:01,400
And so you recall.
This that old timeline, that was

1113
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,500
incorrect that makes my brain
hurt.

1114
01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:08,100
I know I know, I know.
So those are for that was our

1115
01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:09,600
first topic I mean.
Wow.

1116
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,700
Do you think do you think this
is something that is happening?

1117
01:04:12,700 --> 01:04:15,000
Like do you feel like people are
actually?

1118
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,100
I don't know.
Yeah.

1119
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:20,100
Like they the military is
actually utilizing so like I

1120
01:04:20,108 --> 01:04:21,800
said we would never know.
Yeah.

1121
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,700
Whatever you would never know if
they were.

1122
01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:29,900
I mean, because they that
because the government does in

1123
01:04:29,900 --> 01:04:32,600
the military, they do things.
We don't know about every single

1124
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,000
day and they've done it for Ever
yours.

1125
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:39,500
And so, if this was a truly
successful, you know, working

1126
01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:42,900
thing we would we would never
know about especially if they

1127
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:44,900
can go back to the past and
fucking change show.

1128
01:04:44,908 --> 01:04:47,600
But no, totally.
I mean, would you ever do it?

1129
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:52,900
Like let's say, you were able to
go to The Institute and go

1130
01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:54,400
through their southern process.
Yeah.

1131
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,000
Would you would you try to seek
it out?

1132
01:04:57,700 --> 01:04:59,200
I have an out-of-body
experience.

1133
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:06,300
I don't feel no.
I No, I don't find Value.

1134
01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:09,500
I don't think I can't think
about value, okay.

1135
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,700
I mean really interesting but
really, I do, I think you'd buy

1136
01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:19,100
what you're saying, you'd have
to commit to it's so hard that I

1137
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:22,500
don't and there's no guarantee
that you're going to do it

1138
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:24,200
apparently, right?
Right.

1139
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:27,200
You have closed.
It only 5% of people can even do

1140
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,200
the past thing.
I think you said, yeah, the past

1141
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,500
thing.
Yeah, so and so, what value

1142
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:35,900
would it be to lift my second.
So buddy.

1143
01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:38,700
Howard, what you would be the
most interested in.

1144
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,700
No, future the future.
But then at the other end, the

1145
01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:46,800
never crosses.
My mind is no because then I

1146
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,100
might come back and be
completely stressed out.

1147
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,000
Yes, something I can't even
change.

1148
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,900
Oh my God.
Yeah, just imagine, like, like

1149
01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:54,800
knowing what you like?
Oh my God.

1150
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:55,900
Where'd.
Yeah, exactly.

1151
01:05:55,900 --> 01:05:58,400
It's post-apocalyptic.
When did that happen?

1152
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,500
Oh my God.
Then you be stressed about

1153
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:02,100
what's going to happen once you
know what I mean.

1154
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:07,200
They just know totally, no good
can come from this.

1155
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,400
I mean, I do agree.
I think I would do it.

1156
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:11,900
I think this is really
interesting.

1157
01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:17,500
I would be interested to hear
some of the codes that people

1158
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:21,800
have used but I would do it.
I have had an out-of-body

1159
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,500
experience, really.
I've had multiple, wow.

1160
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,900
Yeah, which I'll save for
another conversation but the the

1161
01:06:29,900 --> 01:06:33,300
process they're talking about
with that vibrational stuff

1162
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,800
that's real.
Yeah, like where you feel a

1163
01:06:36,808 --> 01:06:40,600
vibration?
And no no II agree.

1164
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,200
I was real.
I believe it.

1165
01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:45,200
No, I do believe that,
especially since I know that

1166
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,700
everything has its own, harmonic
could Stone.

1167
01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:52,500
So it only makes sense.
That that's the thing.

1168
01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:55,000
Yeah, that's real agreed.
Well, thank you so much for

1169
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,400
listening to this next CIA
released.

1170
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,100
Real paper.
Yeah, intriguing, it's bizarre.

1171
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,100
Yeah, just a good bizarre as
fuck.

1172
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:07,000
Yeah, totally and who knows
where we're at today?

1173
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,900
What they're studying.
That's, that's really the

1174
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,000
question.
Question that is and will we

1175
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,600
ever know?
No.

1176
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,500
Probably never know.
But the goal.

1177
01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:15,600
Cheers.
Cheers.

1178
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,000
Thank you so much.
Thank you.

1179
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,900
Thank you.
This was our first one and I'm

1180
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:25,000
looking forward to our second.
Oh my God, same have a good day.